OTA update proposed on my rooted XWLP7 - what is it ? - Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am very suprised to have been offered an OTA update - as I had flashed a firmware myself.
I was expecting, that with an unbranded flashed firmware, I would never receive an OTA update.
Am I wrong?
The details:
I flashed a few months ago XWLP7 via Mobile Odin pro, and I am rooted.
The phone itself was purchased sim-free & unbranded, my 3g provider is vodafone uk - pay mothnly.
XWLP7 was taken from the official ICS leaked firmware thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544487
would at least try to understand if the proposed update is the recent I9100XWLPT
but don't know ho to figure out what the update is.
Also, I would prefer to use ODIN pro again rather than doing an offical update and maybe lose root.
please advise!
thanks!

Yes, the corect regional update is probably LPT.
You will lose the root anyhow, even if you flash with Odin or directly via Wi-Fi.

edo_xda said:
I am very suprised to have been offered an OTA update - as I had flashed a firmware myself.
I was expecting, that with an unbranded flashed firmware, I would never receive an OTA update.
Am I wrong?
The details:
I flashed a few months ago XWLP7 via Mobile Odin pro, and I am rooted.
The phone itself was purchased sim-free & unbranded, my 3g provider is vodafone uk - pay mothnly.
XWLP7 was taken from the official ICS leaked firmware thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1544487
would at least try to understand if the proposed update is the recent I9100XWLPT
but don't know ho to figure out what the update is.
Also, I would prefer to use ODIN pro again rather than doing an offical update and maybe lose root.
please advise!
thanks!
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Why not just flash the latest I9100XWLPT rather than flashing that and loosing root?

I just flashed the LPT and I didnt lose root.Maybe someone can add what the "everoot" function is in mobile odin pro.
I think I lost cwm but I got it back with siyah 3.5 flash.
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mihaixp said:
Yes, the corect regional update is probably LPT.
You will lose the root anyhow, even if you flash with Odin or directly via Wi-Fi.
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thanks - I did not accept the update and flashed I9100XWLPT with Mobile Odin Pro directly.
as usual, it worked great and did not lose root.
cheers

I also got this update but didn't accept as I heard that Samsung were pushing updates out which removes the search function when holding the menu button because they lost a law suit with Apple or something.
It could just be a rumour but I didn't want to risk it.
Does XWLPT still have the search function?
Also does XWLPT have the hard brick bug?
Cheers!

Obagleyfreer said:
I also got this update but didn't accept as I heard that Samsung were pushing updates out which removes the search function when holding the menu button because they lost a law suit with Apple or something.
It could just be a rumour but I didn't want to risk it.
Does XWLPT still have the search function?
Also does XWLPT have the hard brick bug?
Cheers!
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Yes I have the search. and the [hone is not brocked (yet

edo_xda said:
Yes I have the search. and the [hone is not brocked (yet
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You can download the 'got brick bug' app from chain fire to check.
Until then I wouldn't do a factory reset or wipe just to make sure

I tried the same update and its just as crap as the older one-and more laggy.Maybe its because Im liking rr3 performance.
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Obagleyfreer said:
You can download the 'got brick bug' app from chain fire to check.
Until then I wouldn't do a factory reset or wipe just to make sure
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yep I did that and I've got the bug.

edo_xda said:
yep I did that and I've got the bug.
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just flash the latest siyah kernel and u can do wipes in recovery without any brick bug issue for sure

Sun90 said:
just flash the latest siyah kernel and u can do wipes in recovery without any brick bug issue for sure
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Thanks -
can I do the kernel-only flashing using MOBILE Odin pro ?
I no longer have (nor wish to have) windows pcs

edo_xda said:
Thanks -
can I do the kernel-only flashing using MOBILE Odin pro ?
I no longer have (nor wish to have) windows pcs
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Apparently there is a risk of bricking your phone if you have the brick bug and you use Mobile Odin so I wouldn't risk it.
If you're using a Mac you can use Heimdall, it's similar to Odin

Obagleyfreer said:
Apparently there is a risk of bricking your phone if you have the brick bug and you use Mobile Odin so I wouldn't risk it.
If you're using a Mac you can use Heimdall, it's similar to Odin
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thanks - will give it a go

Related

Noob pretty confused about rooting/unlocking

First, I did read/search quite a bit, but I need some help to get started...
The Samsung will be released in Canada on July 14th, from Bell Canada. But I will be using the phone on a different compatible carrier (Telus).
Therefore I will need to unlock the phone, which seem doable with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1064978
But before it seem I need to root the phone.
Ref. this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278
This confuse me:
The stock kernels are to be used to restore the kernel version after rooting and are not needed for updating the firmware.
You do not need to root or unroot the device to update the firmware.
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From what I understood, there seem to be the ROM: which seem to contain android (original or customized), what would the firmware and the kernel be?
Obviously, there is not likely to be a stock firmware from Bell on launch day. Is it needed to root the phone?
My end goal would be to: root the phone, keeping the original android on the phone, and unlocking it.
I can always buy an unlocked version for 100$ more.....
Thanks you
x-cimo said:
First, I did read/search quite a bit, but I need some help to get started...
This confuse me:
From what I understood, there seem to be the ROM: which seem to contain android (original or customized), what would the firmware and the kernel be?
The ROM firmware is the complete OS and Kernel and modem and CSC
Obviously, there is not likely to be a stock firmware from Bell on launch day. Is it needed to root the phone?
No pick a similar version root .
My end goal would be to: root the phone, keeping the original android on the phone, and unlocking it.
Rooted phone is no longer original firmware /android you have changed the kernel .
Custom rom and or rooting invalidates warranty .
jje
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I am fine with voiding the warranty...
Can I use any of theses: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278 ? (As I think they are "official samsung" rom).
Can I apply a firmware that is in that list to my canadian Galaxy S2?
Well have to see what the differences are with the Bell version of the device before this question can be answered.
Edit : intratech has right of course.
If no hardware modifications :
If you have a branded operator firmware, you will need root to unlock it.
Usualy, to root it, you update your GS2 with an official samsung firmware, flash insecure kernel or CF Root kernel and then use the APK to unlock your phone.
I recommand before doing this, you find and download your original firmware in case of warranty support.
Kernel is the heart of the firmware/ROM
Firmware/ROM is the same.
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JJEgan said:
Custom rom and or rooting invalidates warranty .
jje
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sicopat said:
I recommand before doing this, you find and download your original firmware in case of warranty support.
Kernel is the heart of the firmware/ROM
Firmware/ROM is the same.
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Sorry to sound noobish but once and for all, rooting voids your warranty because the counter is raised? You can undo everything else (uninstall superuser/busybox and flash the stock kernel, you can even use a jig to reset the counter but did somebody with a rooted phone ever get to a point where he needed to make use of the warranty and if so what did samsung say and how much did that person undo (signs of rooting)?
I'm still unrooted because of the letters that Samsung sent to it's employies looking for signs of rooting when dealing with warranty claims. As good as the phone is and as much improvements rooting brings, is it really worth flushing 2 years of warranty down the drain?
d3l1 said:
Sorry to sound noobish but once and for all, rooting voids your warranty because the counter is raised? You can undo everything else (uninstall superuser/busybox and flash the stock kernel, you can even use a jig to reset the counter but did somebody with a rooted phone ever get to a point where he needed to make use of the warranty and if so what did samsung say and how much did that person undo (signs of rooting)?
I'm still unrooted because of the letters that Samsung sent to it's employies looking for signs of rooting when dealing with warranty claims. As good as the phone is and as much improvements rooting brings, is it really worth flushing 2 years of warranty down the drain?
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Have you ever heard about phones refused in support by samsung cause of rooting ?
If you flash back your original firmware and reset your counter with a JIG usb, I am pretty shure they will accept the return.
But you sould always do as you feel it. If you are affraid of rooting your phone cause of the waranty, don't root it
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Intratech said:
Well have to see what the differences are with the Bell version of the device before this question can be answered.
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The phone will be in store next week, which information should I look for and report here to see if there is any compatible firmware?
sicopat said:
Have you ever heard about phones refused in support by samsung cause of rooting ?
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No that's why I'm asking, if anybody has any experience with that?
Subscribed to this thread.
I plan to do exactly the same as x-cimo (except I'm with Fido) and trying to gather the complete steps for root and unlock.
I am planning to pick-up the phone at bell next week if there is a money back warranty.
I still need to know what I need to provide here about the phone..
d3l1 said:
No that's why I'm asking, if anybody has any experience with that?
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Go to Samfirmware .com they have a copy of the root = no warranty letter from Samsung and now we also have a custom rom counter .
Enough SGS1 user have been turned away by service centres .
Users choice return it with root and take your chances .
jje
x-cimo said:
I am planning to pick-up the phone at bell next week if there is a money back warranty.
I still need to know what I need to provide here about the phone..
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You need to check if it is the same hardware : Exynos 1.2 Gh .... as others.
If not, firmwares provided (for now) in the section developpement won't fit your GS2.
In order to root, you will have to flash your phone with an official samsung firmware (without an opérator touch).
So you will have to wait someone to post the generic firmware from your country (intratech will certainly add it in his thread then).
sicopat said:
So you will have to wait someone to post the generic firmware from your country (intratech will certainly add it in his thread then).
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Why does the firmware is country specific? Why would a UK firmware not work in canada for example? I am just curious.
How do I check if it use the same chipset or hardware version?
rooting SGS2 -PDA:KF3 / PHONE:KE7 / CSC:KF1 (DBT)
Hi ALL,
I just updated my SGS2 firmware last night via kies. As expected the previous rooted fw was lost.
I downloaded the GT-I9100_NEE_I9100XWKF3_I9100XXKE7_I9100OXXKF1.tar and I9100XWKF3_Kernel.tar from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1075278&page=69 and follow root guide.
Loading the firmware using ODIN was successful. When I run SuperOneClick v1.9.5, the process stop Running psneuter..... I also tried using the other exploit option but it also stop Running gingerbreak.....
Did anybody experienced the issue?
Please help..
x-cimo said:
Why does the firmware is country specific? Why would a UK firmware not work in canada for example? I am just curious.
How do I check if it use the same chipset or hardware version?
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Firmware is hardware and country specific.
You have custom data configurations with your country operator (for 3G and MMS). They are already configured in you firmware.
You have your langage dictionary too, keyboard configuration (AZERTY QWERTY QWERTZ ...)
Will you have NFC ? in France we don't have it and our firmware don't have drivers for NFC ...
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Thanks you
I am currently looking at getting a unlocked one from clove.. (UK)..
Does anyone know if the NFC model are out in UK?
rk.galaxys2 said:
Hi ALL,
<snip>
Loading the firmware using ODIN was successful. When I run SuperOneClick v1.9.5, the process stop Running psneuter..... I also tried using the other exploit option but it also stop Running gingerbreak.....
Did anybody experienced the issue?
Please help..
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Hi,
I just rooted my SGS2 and i have the same issues you did. The SuperOneClick hung at "Running psneuter"
I then followed the instructions from Chainfires thread here.
The CF-Root file i used was the KE4 version in the fourth post down: CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KF4-v4.0-CWM4.zip - [Click for QR Code] (5.96 MB, 5066 views)
I then used the stock firmware for my provider to flash back.
Hope this helps.
BlackMalac said:
Hi,
I just rooted my SGS2 and i have the same issues you did. The SuperOneClick hung at "Running psneuter"
I then followed the instructions from Chainfires thread here.
The CF-Root file i used was the KE4 version in the fourth post down: CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KF4-v4.0-CWM4.zip - [Click for QR Code] (5.96 MB, 5066 views)
I then used the stock firmware for my provider to flash back.
Hope this helps.
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Hi,
Why did you have to re-flash the stock firmware after applying CF-Root?
I thought CF-Root didn't affect the current firmware on your device.
Thanks!
sicopat said:
Firmware is hardware and country specific.
You have custom data configurations with your country operator (for 3G and MMS). They are already configured in you firmware.
You have your langage dictionary too, keyboard configuration (AZERTY QWERTY QWERTZ ...)
Will you have NFC ? in France we don't have it and our firmware don't have drivers for NFC ...
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If there is custom data configuration with the country operator, then doesn't that mean the 3G and MMS won't be correct for an unlocked SGSII from the UK in Canada? Or is this something that can be changed afterwards (I assume so)
Assuming that the hardware is the same for the upcoming Canadian version, these are the steps that I plan to take:
1. Purchase the phone with no contract (would be locked to Bell)
2. Use Odin to flash latest firmware for UK version. (Looks like it'll be XWKF3 - XEU (Generic UK+Europe) : http :// www .multiupload.com/ZZYM5ZAFA0 -- referenced from intratech's ROM's thread)
3. Follow Chainfire's rooting instructions and Flash CF-Root kernel for firmware (CF-Root-SGS2_XW_CLK_KF3-v4.0-CWM4.zip) (-- referenced from chainfire's CF-Root thread)
4. I should have a rooted phone by this stage. Next, Download and install Galaxy S2 Sim Unlock. (https :// market.android.com/details?id=eu.chainfire.sgs2simunlockcode)
And hopefully if all goes well, I'll have a rooted, unlocked SGS2 that works with Fido.
Would really appreciate it if anybody sees issues with my plan or can confirm that it should work.
Some questions:
* how can I confirm beforehand if the hardware will be compatible. Are we just concerned about the same cores used or does the hardware for radio come into play also?
Thanks,

[Q] unable to up SGS2 to ICS

Hi,
I have an Orange branded SGS2 running the stock Andriod and Kies doesn't let me upgrade to ICS. Message "Your device does not support upgrading via kies", but as I understand it, this is because it has a different Phone firmware. I have been trying to look for the right one, but the links are dead in this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113928 .
When I type *#1234#, it gives me:
PDA: I9100BVKH2
Phone: I9100XXLPQ
CSC: I9100ORAKH2
Now I'm guessing only the Phone firmware is wrong, as my sister has the same phone, also Orange, and her's gives the following info:
PDA: I9100BVKH2
Phone: I9100BVKH1
CSC: I9100ORAKH2
So my question(s), is this the problem? And if it is, anyway I can only update the "Phone" firmware, without having to reinstall everything, if so, anyone got a link to the BVKH1 phone firmware? If no one does, anyway of extracting this from my sister's phone?
And if it's not the problem, how can I solve Kies not wanting to upgrade it?
Thanks!
Search Samfirmware.com for the firmware you're after.
flash stock modem
MistahBungle said:
Search Samfirmware.com for the firmware you're after.
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So the only thing I can find there, is BVKH2 from Orange, Spain, but I need BVKH1 UK Orange
rocky23 said:
flash stock modem
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This is the problem, can't find it anywhere. The only thread that had, have the files deleted.
thehosh said:
So the only thing I can find there, is BVKH2 from Orange, Spain, but I need BVKH1 UK Orange.
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Why don't you get I9100BVKJ4 (with CSC I9100ORAKJ4) from samfirmware.com then? This is UK Orange, and is a higher version than BVKH1.
Or, download I9100BVLPB (with CSC I9100ORALPB, which is also UK Orange) which is 4.0.3, and the one you would likely get through Kies anyways?
ctomgee said:
Why don't you get I9100BVKJ4 (with CSC I9100ORAKJ4) from samfirmware.com then? This is UK Orange, and is a higher version than BVKH1.
Or, download I9100BVLPB (with CSC I9100ORALPB, which is also UK Orange) which is 4.0.3, and the one you would likely get through Kies anyways?
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I actually didn't know this was possible, thought I'd only be able to using the firmware I had when I received it.. And I'm guessing I'll have to backup my apps using titanium backup as this removes everything right?
thehosh said:
I actually didn't know this was possible, thought I'd only be able to using the firmware I had when I received it.. And I'm guessing I'll have to backup my apps using titanium backup as this removes everything right?
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Shouldn't remove ANYthing, actually. (aside from root if you have it) These are all non-wipe packages.
It's usually recommended to do a wipe before an install, but you don't have to.
But backing up before flashing is always a good idea.
ctomgee said:
Shouldn't remove ANYthing, actually. (aside from root if you have it) These are all non-wipe packages.
It's usually recommended to do a wipe before an install, but you don't have to.
But backing up before flashing is always a good idea.
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Great thanks! Just to confirm, this is flashed using Odin > Phone?
thehosh said:
Great thanks! Just to confirm, this is flashed using Odin > Phone?
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PDA. Not Phone.
ctomgee said:
PDA. Not Phone.
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Thanks very much! Worked like a charm!

Kies will not upgrade my note

I have a rooted ATT Note. I ran Kies to upgrade my firmware to ICS but it reports "Your device firmware cannot be upgraded through Keis". I'd like to try using Odin but I can not find where to get the firmware file. Can anyone point me to it?
cdnvet said:
I have a rooted ATT Note. I ran Kies to upgrade my firmware to ICS but it reports "Your device firmware cannot be upgraded through Keis". I'd like to try using Odin but I can not find where to get the firmware file. Can anyone point me to it?
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Im having the same problem, but im not rooted..
JDrew said:
Im having the same problem, but im not rooted..
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This will do the trick. The issue is with the modem file when you rooted...and Kies is not liking it. This will upgrade you to the official AT&T ICS unrooted release;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731654
Fix worked
kandelai said:
This will do the trick. The issue is with the modem file when you rooted...and Kies is not liking it. This will upgrade you to the official AT&T ICS unrooted release;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731654
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Used the process in the link above and worked liked a charm...
a couple comments:
The process is the emergency firmware recovery procedure....
No need to take the battery out to get Sn & Model. Just go into your Settings>About Phone>Status>
You will have to re-root your phone
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Unrooting my Phone

Hi all Mizzeeboy here
I just wanted to know if it would be ok to unroot my phone:good: then update as I rooted my phone to unlock it so I could avoid a fee.If I unroot i9300 would I be able to download all other samsung updates from kies all right without my network being f**ked because I have an update for my phone on kies and i'm eager to update but I wanted to ask the experts so i'm sure of what i'm doing.
Thanks
mizzeeboy said:
Hi all Mizzeeboy here
I just wanted to know if it would be ok to unroot my phone:good: then update as I rooted my phone to unlock it so I could avoid a fee.If I unroot i9300 would I be able to download all other samsung updates from kies all right without my network being f**ked because I have an update for my phone on kies and i'm eager to update but I wanted to ask the experts so i'm sure of what i'm doing.
Thanks
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Why do you want to use kies? Just use ODIN to flash new roms...
klm67637 said:
Why do you want to use kies? Just use ODIN to flash new roms...
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I would like to use kies as I think they do more official updates than odin don't get me wrong odin is a sick program but I would like to stick with kies as I broke my old s1 with odin and do not want to have a new problem.
But do you know if I unroot and upgrade ? will my network be locked again?
How did you unlock your phone?
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How did you unlock your phone?
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I manually changed the efs folder with the file which needed to be replaced i also used voodoo unlock
mizzeeboy said:
I manually changed the efs folder with the file which needed to be replaced i also used voodoo unlock
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Voodoo unlock requires ROOT so im guessing not, you could backup your efs then restore it once you've upgraded maybe
mizzeeboy said:
I would like to use kies as I think they do more official updates than odin don't get me wrong odin is a sick program but I would like to stick with kies as I broke my old s1 with odin and do not want to have a new problem.
But do you know if I unroot and upgrade ? will my network be locked again?
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Neither kies nor Odin does the upgrade..samsung releases the upgrades..on kies you will have to wait for the updates to be pushed by Sammy..using Odin you can download the update from Sammobile/samsung-updates and update any time you want..
by the way..Odin will not mess with your phone if you perform the steps correctly..Kies took around 50 seconds on my PC to open up..Odin does that in 5 seconds...
though there are some advantages of kies as well..such as backup and recover but for me..Odin trumps Kies
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I would like to use kies as I think they do more official updates than odin
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WHAT?!?!
They are the exact same firmwares, kies is just one way of getting the exact same firmware that you get from samfirmware.com. THE EXACT SAME, JUST AS OFFICIAL.
In fact you can get more recent firmware from samfirmware than what you will get from kies. (If your CSC isn't BTU)
Forget about kies and use Odin.
More official.....SMH....
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nodstuff said:
WHAT?!?!
They are the exact same firmwares, kies is just one way of getting the exact same firmware that you get from samfirmware.com. THE EXACT SAME, JUST AS OFFICIAL.
In fact you can get more recent firmware from samfirmware than what you will get from kies. (If your CSC isn't BTU)
Forget about kies and use Odin.
More official.....SMH....
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
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Thanks for that information but could you give me some sort of guide of odin and how to use it as I hate it a lot after what it did to my old phone which was my own fault anyway.
And no one still has'nt answered my question regarding the unroot and my mobile network being locked
mizzeeboy said:
Thanks for that information but could you give me some sort of guide of odin and how to use it as I hate it a lot after what it did to my old phone which was my own fault anyway.
And no one still has'nt answered my question regarding the unroot and my mobile network being locked
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A complete guide with pictures is in the stickies in the general section..
Here you go..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26530736
Next time try searching a bit more. .
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mizzeeboy said:
Thanks for that information but could you give me some sort of guide of odin and how to use it as I hate it a lot after what it did to my old phone which was my own fault anyway.
And no one still has'nt answered my question regarding the unroot and my mobile network being locked
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Odin is simple, boot into download mode (vol down+home+power) connect to computer with Odin open (kies closed and removed from system tray) put package in PDA, make sure repartition is NOT ticked and press start.
If you use Odin properly it won't damage anything.
Yes, depending on how you unlocked it there is a chance it will be locked again, Samsung blocked the method that voodoo unlock uses in the updates after XXBLG1.
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[Q] Installing Official 4.1 without Kies or Root

I've got an unlocked I9100 running the official 4.0.4 rom on EE in the UK. I've read that the jelly bean update is now available, but the OTA update never seems to find anything for me. I've tried installing Kies, but for whatever reason, it just wont detect my phone....
So my question is this. Is there a way for me to install the update using Odin without having to root my phone? The reason I ask is that I have banking applications that refuse to run once the phone is rooted.
Thanks in advance!
tomallen35 said:
I've got an unlocked I9100 running the official 4.0.4 rom on EE in the UK. I've read that the jelly bean update is now available, but the OTA update never seems to find anything for me. I've tried installing Kies, but for whatever reason, it just wont detect my phone....
So my question is this. Is there a way for me to install the update using Odin without having to root my phone? The reason I ask is that I have banking applications that refuse to run once the phone is rooted.
Thanks in advance!
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Flashing with Odin does not require root. It never has.
tomallen35 said:
I've got an unlocked I9100 running the official 4.0.4 rom on EE in the UK. I've read that the jelly bean update is now available, but the OTA update never seems to find anything for me. I've tried installing Kies, but for whatever reason, it just wont detect my phone....
So my question is this. Is there a way for me to install the update using Odin without having to root my phone? The reason I ask is that I have banking applications that refuse to run once the phone is rooted.
Thanks in advance!
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As mentioned above if your installing stock use odin, no root needed.
Which banking app you having problem with on root?
TheATHEiST said:
As mentioned above if your installing stock use odin, no root needed.
Which banking app you having problem with on root?
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The barclays app detects root access and wont start if it finds root. There are probably ways around it, but it was a pain getting the thing working in the first place!
tomallen35 said:
I've got an unlocked I9100 running the official 4.0.4 rom on EE in the UK. I've read that the jelly bean update is now available, but the OTA update never seems to find anything for me. I've tried installing Kies, but for whatever reason, it just wont detect my phone....
So my question is this. Is there a way for me to install the update using Odin without having to root my phone? The reason I ask is that I have banking applications that refuse to run once the phone is rooted.
Thanks in advance!
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Hey, I was in the same position as you.
I was on stock unbranded UK ROM, I downloaded official Spain JB. Used ODIN and flashed over my phone with no wipe.
Phone booted up fine with all my data. Phone still remins unrooted
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tomallen35 said:
The barclays app detects root access and wont start if it finds root. There are probably ways around it, but it was a pain getting the thing working in the first place!
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All you need to do is use SU to block the app from gaining root privileges.
Just flash JB using ODIN, reboot into download mode again and flash Siyah kernel v6 beta4.
The kernel will give you root, cwm, cwm manager and SU. Whenever a app tries to access root you will have a option to allow or block.
olyloh6696 said:
Hey, I was in the same position as you.
I was on stock unbranded UK ROM, I downloaded official Spain JB. Used ODIN and flashed over my phone with no wipe.
Phone booted up fine with all my data. Phone still remins unrooted
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Can I update to my region's version through Kies when I have the Spanish version?
Also I would like to know that will my phone have warranty after that? I'm sure I would drop it the next day after I lost the warranty.
leocooper said:
Can I update to my region's version through Kies when I have the Spanish version?
Also I would like to know that will my phone have warranty after that? I'm sure I would drop it the next day after I lost the warranty.
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Root: Voids warranty.
Flash: voids warranty.
Kies: Sees your firmware (e.g Spain) and will only look for that firmware' (Spain) updates.
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gastonw said:
Root: Voids warranty.
Flash: voids warranty.
Kies: Sees your firmware (e.g Spain) and will only look for Spain Updates.
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So flashing to an official firmware will void my warranty?
yeap, as long as it's not from your region country (unbranded) or your carrier branded ROM (locked & branded).
If you have an unbranded, unlocked phone and you are from SPAIN, you are all good.
If not, you've modified your device against your warranty's advice.
You can also make a back up of your current ROM in case you have to claim warranty.
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gastonw said:
yeap, as long as it's not from your region country (unbranded) or your carrier branded ROM (locked & branded).
If you have an unbranded, unlocked phone and you are from SPAIN, you are all good.
If not, you've modified your device against your warranty's advice.
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But will it trip the flash counter and will I get the warranty back when my region's version finally comes out and I flash it?
You can remove that triangle and your binary counter with triangle away.
Official ROMs won't cause any of that because they are samsungs officials.
And yes, as I said, you can flash your country / region / carrier ROM in the future and everything will look legit.
Warranty will try to see if you messed with your device in any kind, you just need to prove you didn't.
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gastonw said:
You can remove that triangle and your binary counter with triangle away.
Official ROMs won't cause any of that because they are samsungs officials.
And yes, as I said, you can flash your country / region / carrier ROM in the future and everything will look legit.
Warranty will try to see if you messed with your device in any kind, you just need to prove you didn't.
By learning how at xda
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This is the last dumb question, I promise: can I update from full stock 4.0.4 to the Spanish version without a full wipe and will I be able to flash my region's version without a wipe when it comes out + have everything look 100% legit?
lol, brick bug got you scared there huh?
Yeah, you could do that. Wipes aren't mandatory but they do help sometimes.
Take a couple of days reading threads in this section, 4.0.4 related.
This way you'll cone across some stories and you can learn about what-to-do & what not-to-do.
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gastonw said:
lol, brick bug got you scared there huh?
Yeah, you could do that. Wipes aren't mandatory but they do help sometimes.
Take a couple of days reading threads in this section, 4.0.4 related.
This way you'll cone across some stories and you can learn about what-to-do & what not-to-do.
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Actually no, I just don't feel like I want to reinstall everything because I can't do a proper backup since I don't want to root.
So let me recap this: I can flash the Spanish version without a full wipe, keep all my apps and data, flash the Nordic version when it comes available, still keep my apps and warranty without tripping the flash counter and receive official updates to the Nordic version through Kies.
Correct me if I am wrong.
EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I seem to have a sane chip
leocooper said:
Actually no, I just don't feel like I want to reinstall everything because I can't do a proper backup since I don't want to root.
So let me recap this: I can flash the Spanish version without a full wipe, keep all my apps and data, flash the Nordic version when it comes available, still keep my apps and warranty without tripping the flash counter and receive official updates to the Nordic version through Kies.
Correct me if I am wrong.
EDIT: Oh, and by the way, I seem to have a sane chip
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When nordic update rolls out you will have to flash it with odin, and only then you can update thru kies/ota.
If you flash ls8 you'll only get spain updates via kies/ota.
The easier way for you to get the right ROM for you is to back up your current ROM. When your country / region / carrier starts rolling the update you can restore thar ROM and update it via kies/ota.
Is your device unbranded or carrier branded?
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leocooper said:
This is the last dumb question, I promise: can I update from full stock 4.0.4 to the Spanish version without a full wipe and will I be able to flash my region's version without a wipe when it comes out + have everything look 100% legit?
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yes I alrrady confirmed that one my first post.
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gastonw said:
When nordic update rolls out you will have to flash it with odin, and only then you can update thru kies/ota.
If you flash ls8 you'll only get spain updates via kies/ota.
The easier way for you to get the right ROM for you is to back up your current ROM. When your country / region / carrier starts rolling the update you can restore thar ROM and update it via kies/ota.
Is your device unbranded or carrier branded?
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Unbranded. So if I flash the nordic version on top of the Spanish one (with Odin ) I don't have to wipe at all at any point and my warranty will stay + I can then update the nordic version through kies (if this isn't the last update)
Your warranty will be voided as long as you are on ls8. After you flash your country/region ROM, warranty will resume.
LS8 is FROM spain FOR spain. If your device isn't from spain, there's no way you can get ls8 thru proper channels. That is what warranty is all about.
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gastonw said:
Your warranty will be voided as long as you are on ls8. After you flash your country/region ROM, warranty will resume.
LS8 is FROM spain FOR spain. If your device isn't from spain, there's no way you can get ls8 thru proper channels. That is what warranty is all about.
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Yeah, I understand that.
I can use LS8 until the nordic version comes out, flash it with Odin without a wipe and then have my warranty back when I'm on the nordic version, am I right?

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