Does anyone else feel like the ICS OTA was just kind of thrown together and not built very well? To me, nothing seems to be themed consistently and I feel as though ICS/Sense doesn't fit very well together. In some cases, I'll get menus with the black and blue ICS theme and then other times I'll get the Sense white and green menus. Other than having ICS (which is awesome) I don't think HTC put much time into this update. What do you guys think?
I blame Verizon...
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I see what you mean but what can we do?
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devilsadidas said:
I blame Verizon...
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Blame verizon all you want for the bad timing of the update, but the performance of ICS is 100% HTC's fault. No doubt about it
Problem is that HTC is mostly green and they want to stay green except Android is turning blue. I guess HTC needs to learn how to theme? Oh and I blame Verizon for everything as well, what a bunch of blowers..
It's kinda sh*tty but it doesn't bother most of us since we're on custom roms that are themed. Source is the only thing I care about.
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ICS OTA
I waited for the OTA to drop before I unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and installed custom roms. I don't know why, because the OTA was underwhelming for sure.
It's better than gb for sure
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I don't care much for the looks but that is not the problem. It is much slower the gb. The browser does not work well for flash videos. It also does not work when searching pictures with Google. Hancent no longer see's Facebook photos. I have several programs that don't work properly. I wish i could go back to GB!
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I was annoyed to find out on a trip this weekend that the navigation voice does not have its own volume and if you play music at the same time, you can barely hear the voice. I had to mute my music when there was a lot of directions coming up.
It is an improvement for me
I am completely stock. I don't like to root until Verizon wont cover the phone any longer.But I was getting close though because of the data drop issues. ICS is not the solution to everything, but it made my phone able to work like I expect. I don't know if I blame HTC, Verizon or the tooth fairy. I know that they all should have been bothered by the number of people running stock that were dealing with not being able to us the internet as a general rule that is a core function of a smart phone, imho.
For those of you who are developing roms, thank you. I will root this phone, probably around Christmas. Thanks for keeping a variety around. :good:
Dated version of sense when 4.0 is the norm for newer HTC phones. Custom roms ftw.
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Dated version of sense when 4.0 is the norm for newer HTC phones. Custom roms ftw.
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Honestly I am ok with most stuff on it. The only major issue I am having is battery drain. I am hoping after I reset it will be fixed. But it did fix the 4g issues I was having. The browser hasn't been slower for me but I haven't tried videos on it yet. I am annoyed handsent isn't syncing the pics but since the address book is it sounds like a handcent problem. Overall I am happy with it. It's nice I can disable the bloatware and I like how ICS is. I like the sense its not much difference then GB, 4.0 would be nice but at least my phone is working now.
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Honestly I am ok with most stuff on it. The only major issue I am having is battery drain. I am hoping after I reset it will be fixed. But it did fix the 4g issues I was having. The browser hasn't been slower for me but I haven't tried videos on it yet. I am annoyed handsent isn't syncing the pics but since the address book is it sounds like a handcent problem. Overall I am happy with it. It's nice I can disable the bloatware and I like how ICS is. I like the sense its not much difference then GB, 4.0 would be nice but at least my phone is working now.
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Nice! Glad to hear that you're happy with your phone and the update :good:. If you're having battery issues, try reducing the frequency of data synchs etc. Lower screen brightness for general use etc. Could also try a battery calibration. Good luck!
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Nice! Glad to hear that you're happy with your phone and the update :good:. If you're having battery issues, try reducing the frequency of data synchs etc. Lower screen brightness for general use etc. Could also try a battery calibration. Good luck!
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I kept my sync frequencies, and screen brightness the same so I could compare battery efficiency between GB and ICS. ICS is about 50% worse, in my experience. My extended battery lasts 1 day 9 hours to 0% battery, where it used to last a full 2. It's horrendous. If I reduced sync times and brightness, etc. on GB I would be approaching or exceeding the 3 day mark. Users shouldn't have to do all that just to hit 2 days on ICS. I know some users do not experience these battery issues (my wife and coworker do not), so I have to assume it's an actual defect in my handset.
I agree with OP. Nothing seemed themes consistently at all. I couldn't stand bouncing back and force between ICS and Sense themes, which were entirely different (and arguably clashing).
I spent plenty of time waiting for the OTA, and when it finally came and flashed a new ROM that night.
Screen brightness messes up after using camera (mine stays at full brightness until I lock and unlock again), landscape keyboard is severely ****ed (not so much the keyboard but the displayed content above it where my cursor is), and the themes a little but they don't bother me at all. Anyone else have those problems?
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Screen brightness messes up after using camera (mine stays at full brightness until I lock and unlock again), landscape keyboard is severely ****ed (not so much the keyboard but the displayed content above it where my cursor is), and the themes a little but they don't bother me at all. Anyone else have those problems?
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Ive always had that auto brightness problem with the camera even on the droid incredible so its not new to me but i did notice that if you try a new theme some parts of HTC's green theme turn into your color of theme. But not always.
I agree with everything said pretty much accept battery life. Mines still good even on these stock kernals.
Moral of the story... Nexus only from now on lol. The themeing issues and old sense and old version of ICS when we finally get the update is annoying to me. Why didn't they just release the source and not push an outdated update lol.
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Ive always had that auto brightness problem with the camera even on the droid incredible so its not new to me but i did notice that if you try a new theme some parts of HTC's green theme turn into your color of theme. But not always.
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Yeah I turned on the blue skin theme and it comes up with some blue and some green. Both look fine so I don't complain but the landscape keyboard thing is super annoying. Anyone have that problem or am I the minority?
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I haven't applied it yet, but I want to, just to see if it will fix the massive issues I've had with this phone. I know it supposedly breaks root, but I don't care about that. I know it also should fix the missing phone icon on the lockscreen (broken in 1.13.651.7).
Any issues?
It suck. Gps doesn't work when I really need it to, home page goes blank after hitting home from texting (sometimes), Gps symbol stays crossed out after turning off and back on, and worst of all front facing camera doesn't work...instead I get the rear image fliped upside down. I'm not rooted, nor do I need or want to. I'm going to try to take it 2 a store in the morning. I'll try to do a update when i find out more.
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Im loving it. It feels smoother than 2.3.3 IMO. Also, GPS locks faster than usual. Overall, I feel its an a great upgrade to the guts of the OS.
I'm running Synergy Nightly BTW so my results are skewed.
Why don't u just backup and flash the stock ROM with the update built in and see. U can test it out without losing root
That's what i ran before my current ROM and it ran good. Weather fix and screenshot was really nice
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It suck. Gps doesn't work when I really need it to, home page goes blank after hitting home from texting (sometimes), Gps symbol stays crossed out after turning off and back on, and worst of all front facing camera doesn't work...instead I get the rear image fliped upside down. I'm not rooted, nor do I need or want to. I'm going to try to take it 2 a store in the morning. I'll try to do a update when i find out more.
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I dont know why your camera does not work because mine and about 8-13 other evo 3d's my friends own all work after the ota. Our gps locks on hella lot faster also. I have literally NO issues so far. plus, my battery life, increased by a whole day with heavy texting, bluetoothing music to my headphone for 6+ hours a day, and 3g pandora.
My only Quirk that bugs me is when unlocking the screen sometimes it goes into the camera but that is it.
I dont notice much difference other than that
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Im loving it. It feels smoother than 2.3.3 IMO. Also, GPS locks faster than usual. Overall, I feel its an a great upgrade to the guts of the OS.
I'm running Synergy Nightly BTW so my results are skewed.
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Same here + the camera looks better.
Initially, I was disappointed by the performance of the ROM, but I later found that my tweaking I did to build.prop (increase dalvik vm, gui forced to run hardware acceleration) was actually causing this version to perform poorly compared to the 1.13.651.7 ROM. After not using those tweaks anymore, the 2.08.651.2 update is running smoothly. Only complaint I have is with the new CIQ spyware that is on this version However, it is easily removed with custom kernel and uninstalling the proper apks.
Love it. Camera green hue is gone for me. Built in screen caputure (power+home button). Adjusting volume no longer cause stutter when viewing videos. Everything just runs smoother. I say upgrade away.
Thanks for all your responses.
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It suck. Gps doesn't work when I really need it to, home page goes blank after hitting home from texting (sometimes), Gps symbol stays crossed out after turning off and back on, and worst of all front facing camera doesn't work...instead I get the rear image fliped upside down. I'm not rooted, nor do I need or want to. I'm going to try to take it 2 a store in the morning. I'll try to do a update when i find out more.
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A couple of these problems I've had before upgrading anything (GPS went out once when I was outside in the middle of LA, GPS icon stays on/off after switching it off/on). Hopefully I won't get your other issues, but everything else is going wrong with this phone, so I'll probably try the custom-rom-upgrade first.
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Why don't u just backup and flash the stock ROM with the update built in and see. U can test it out without losing root
That's what i ran before my current ROM and it ran good. Weather fix and screenshot was really nice
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Haven't rooted yet because if it's this buggy when I'm using it like it supposed to be used, I fear it will be twice as bad and maybe bricked when I actually try to get tricky with it.
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Love it. Camera green hue is gone for me. Built in screen caputure (power+home button). Adjusting volume no longer cause stutter when viewing videos. Everything just runs smoother. I say upgrade away.
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I am really looking forward to the screen capture.
I have to say...Stock roms being buggy does not equate to custom roms being twice as buggy. I would highly recommend you root before taking the OTA and checking out some custom roms. You might be quite surprised with the performance. Just my 2 cents though. Good luck either way!
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I have to say...Stock roms being buggy does not equate to custom roms being twice as buggy. I would highly recommend you root before taking the OTA and checking out some custom roms. You might be quite surprised with the performance. Just my 2 cents though. Good luck either way!
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My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
So as we all know, we now have Jelly Bean. And to not flood dragonzkillers thread with general talk about it, I thought I'd start a thread for people to come and say what they like, what they dont like, and tips and tricks they might have, cool settings in the ROM, etc. Any issues should still be posted in the other thread.
But let me go ahead and start by saying I am so amazed at how smooth and fast jelly bean is on our phone. I never thought it would run better than ICS. The built in quick reply for messaging is awesome. I actually find a lot of things I used to use getting replaced with the stock apps. The default browser is nice. I have also found that if you use Nova launcher, though, and set the animation speed and scrolling speed to a faster setting, it makes the phone feel even smother.
Anyway, I'm not gonna make this post too long. So thats all I have right now. What does everyone else think?
I can't wait to flash this on my room mates phone, he's been *****ing about CM9 not working that well. I was just about to revert him back to Eclipse when I noticed DzK once again did his magic!!
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Triscuit said:
I can't wait to flash this on my room mates phone, he's been *****ing about CM9 not working that well. I was just about to revert him back to Eclipse when I noticed DzK once again did his magic!!
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He'll definitely like CM10 more. A lot more stable. Do you do all his flashing for him? Meaning he's not very tech savvy? If so, there may be things he runs into that you might need to help him with. lol. SD storage is all different and some apps wont install from the play store. He might just have new things to ***** about. lol
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I'm currently waiting for alpha 2, never really have been an early user of ROM's just released
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You are not adventurous.
Omega360 said:
I'm currently waiting for alpha 2, never really have been an early user of ROM's just released
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After a few days running this ROM I can happily say that it feels like this was made for our phone...as in, it's a perfect fit and feels natural. No random reboots. A couple app freezes but they correct themselves. I've found workarounds to get the apps I needed on the phone.. the Facebook crapp....err, app is glitchy like usual but there's always friendcaster. Love the screen transition animation. Its just amazing all around.
Made a video of my first boot of cm10 for anyone who's hesitant to flash and wants to see how it is.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVDTB4uwM3w&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I'm amazed how well it run. The only issues I have really had is the Facebook app and the Email app (for my work Exchange email) tend to be a little crashy (FB is worse than any others), but I can deal with that to have a phone I can actually use. This is my first ROM on this phone (had many on my OG Droid), but the process isn't as bad as I had anticipated.
Can't wait for him to release Alpha 2 to fix the camera and SD issues.
flashed this and i was amazed at the number of custom options as well as how smooth it actually was. however, i was plagued with having to reSBF, reroot and reflash almost everytime i reboot and i needed my phone today so i sbf'd back to 2.3.5 and restored eclipse.
hopefully alpha 2 is even more stable.
Something didn't install right if you can't reboot.... did you install the hijackboot.zip? I'm still loving this ROM.
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Something didn't install right if you can't reboot.... did you install the hijackboot.zip? I'm still loving this ROM.
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I did. :/ waiting for alpha 2
Hopefully this weekend. If you check DZK's twitter feed he was having some issues though.
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Hopefully this weekend. If you check DZK's twitter feed he was having some issues though.
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He said they got fixed but he wasn't sure why.
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He said they got fixed but he wasn't sure why.
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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you should SBF to 2.3.5, root and try eclipse 2.3 and then supercharge it. makes for an amazing daily. it's what i'm doing now with holo launcher recently added.
Random thought/question. Cm7 was gingerbread.... Cm9 was ICS and 10 is JB... what happened to 8? Meant for HC?
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Random thought/question. Cm7 was gingerbread.... Cm9 was ICS and 10 is JB... what happened to 8? Meant for HC?
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Yeah. CM8 was honeycomb. Not many devices had that though.
Yep, mostly designed for tablets
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So far I love CM10. I was frequently getting frustrated with how slow my phone felt. I was last running 2.3.4 using Eclipse ROM and my phone would hang everywhere, especially waiting for the keyboard to pop up. Now everything is nice and quick. My only real complaints is that when I try to change the battery state LED options, the field to change the frequency of them is greyed out, and they are all on "always on" and the field is greyed out and I can't change them. I hate having a LED on when I'm sleeping so I had to just turn the whole setting off so now I have no LEDs for battery states.
My other complaint is how fast CM10 sucks down my battery. Under the same conditions that Eclipse on 2.3.4 would get me from morning until 9pm until depleted, my phone keeps dying at 5pm.
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While team battery life isn't bad, it is definitely worse than eclipse. To be expected I suppose since we have a jb rom running on a gb kernel. My question Houghton, is does Google Now drain team battery? I think it's cool but I would take the longer battery.... Thanks
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Really loving JB for the last 4 days. Only 1 problem with it so far... nothing can find my SD card. Well, almost nothing. I can find it in file explorer. Anyone else notice this?
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Really loving JB for the last 4 days. Only 1 problem with it so far... nothing can find my SD card. Well, almost nothing. I can find it in file explorer. Anyone else notice this?
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I use Root Explorer. You'll see a folder called "storage", a within it youll find sdcard0 and sdcard1. That's how I access them.
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I like how this is going. I used it for about 2 hours then realized Netflix was still a no go and my Andygraph Ti82 calc app wouldn't load the Rom and my saved programs. That was a deal breaker. I might give alpha 3 or beta 1 another shot. Loved it for a short time. The voice call dropping needs to be fixed as well before I can use it as a daily. Reloaded my nandroid of cm 7.2. Everything still works there.
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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Root it but I wouldn't flash the stock ics by any means. It seems that it is slow for a lot of people.
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I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
musicfreak190 said:
I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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Superwipe be4 installing santods, also follow his instructions to a T. Plus don't forget to recallibrate your bat.
Also, do not restore any apps on 1st boot.
I have no lag.
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I am on the debloat/deodex Santod released, 0 lag, everything runs smooth here, if you have issues try a fresh install following all the instructions, maybe something just didnt go 100% the first time.
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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Is there any difference in game performance between GB and the stock ICS OTA?
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I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
Also, remember that people perceived "lag" differently. So to some the stock ICS rom is laggy while to others its smooth. Unfortunately without rooting her device she won't be able to experience the difference and to decide if its worth it.
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draiken78 said:
I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
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Downloaded Nova launcher, HUGE difference... Running much better now!
I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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The messages thing is perfectly true. My wife's messaging app took forever to open post update. For a few days it was near unusable. Now its better.
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I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
When you set your default launcher to Nova and the phone boots without launching the sense launcher which is technically just an app in the eyes of the phone, and the fact that Nova is better coded to be more efficient on memory/cpu/graphics I don't understand anyone's confusion on why using the launcher, or going back home from another app you would see speed increases/less lag. Not only is it much quicker, but it redraws a lot less, and I find that other apps run better with Nova running in the background as opposed to rosie.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
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My front camera, the one on the screen side, doesn't work in either camera or camcorder mode. Has anyone else noticed this? When I try to choose this camera, it just freezes and then goes back to the home screen.
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Hi
After the Verizon ICS upgrade, the lower menu buttons (home, menu, back and search) don't always light up. They seem to function ok but they are impossible to read in the dark. It seems to only happen now and then. I have not seen a pattern. Phone is not rooted. I did not notice this bad behaviour until after the ICS upgrade. It may just be a hardware issue on a 2.5 year old phone.
Anyone else notice this after ICS?
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John
No lighting problems but little things like that have me using a replacement launcher, messaging app, and locker.
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rpatrick said:
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My two bits: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your girlfriend has been happy this long on the FroYo stock unrooted phone? Why risk ruining that? No one wants an unhappy girlfiend (sic). If you're not going to root it, then there's no way to go back if you decide the upgrade is not so much "up". The exception may be if she's already planning on upgrading to a new phone: go ahead and go to ICS and see how it is, then if she doesn't like it she can at least move to a new phone with an extra few days experience with ICS, (her new phone won't likely have FroYo... )
I was looking at my friends GS3(yeah, the overated phone), and I noticed that the status bar looks better. Do you like the HTC status bar, or would you like it looking like the S3's? I like the S3's status bar, but i'm not gonna switch to it since I like HTC better. I also noticed how neon the Amoled screen is. I like the one on the DNA too. I also think HTC can make the app launcher background a little more transparent and add "holo theme" features to Sense.
I do like the quick settings on the GS3 pull down bar. Maybe it just "seems" like a time-saver but I still like it. Other than that I like the DNA's features better.
The reason i got the dna was cause i hate SAMOLED screens with a passion. Take that for what its worth
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Yeah coming from a samsung phone I hated it. I hate touch wiz and I hate SAMOLED the brightness all the way down was always still way too bright and my battery would never last as long as I wanted it to. This is my first HTC phone and I am never going back to samsung.
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Yeah coming from a samsung phone I hated it. I hate touch wiz and I hate SAMOLED the brightness all the way down was always still way too bright and my battery would never last as long as I wanted it to. This is my first HTC phone and I am never going back to samsung.
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Which Samsung did you have ? Cool to hear from a Samsung user or ex user.
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I had a samsung continuum. Verizon planed on the device being big because it's the only phone that has 2 screens. At the time when I bought it android 2.2 had just been released and the rep told me that the phone would be receiving the update soon. This was at the end of 2010 in February 2012 we finally received the froyo update. The device is still on froyo and only has a leak for gb. The battery life was so bad that I had to get an extended battery it would die when I didn't even use it that much. It was so slow performing a simple task like texting took forever. I had to do a battery pull multiple times a day. The phone angered me so much it was a pain to use everyday. However because it was so bad this led me to the introduction of rooting and flashing. Although there was very little development for the phone I flashed a bunch of stuff and was able to get the phone to a solid state where I was able to use it and enjoy it. It's a shame that the phone never got the attention it deserved because it did have the potential to be great. But samsung and verizon could not come to terms and release updates and fix bugs in a timely manner. It was more of a love hate relationship. Only really good thing about the phone was hard bricking it was nearly impossible. Like I said some days I loved it and some days I hated it and wanted to chuck it at a wall. But after having a bad experience like that I'm never going back to them. All my android devices have now been Motorola, from Google, and HTC. I have to say after making a leap that was so drastic to this phone it was quite enjoyable. On the continuum I had a crappy processor and about 300mb of ram so everything was slow. The continuum forms aren't getting very much activity now a days but the people there are really helpful so the community was small and very friendly. Very few people still run the phone as their daily driver. I also really like HTC sense compared to touch wiz. But after an experience like that I'm done with samsung their customer support also really sucks.
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Sense's lack of quick settings in the notification drop down is annoying (at least Sense 4+ has a link to the settings menu now) but with any good ROM it'll add it back (like ViperDNA for example). The Super LCD 3 screen on the DNA is much much better than the OLED screen on the S3. Not only is the resolution higher, but I think it recreates color better. Also, while some Droid DNAs have had reports of small blue splotches on the screen (my original had one) overall the screens seem to be flawless. The S3s had widespread reports of blotches of light or dark which is systemic to OLED screens.
Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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The new ltd update brought me back to stock for improved reception. The only thing I really miss is the hold home as menu button. I understand your point, although I do wish they would stop being lazy and just bring it over.
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Not to troll here or flame.... But really?
I stopped reading after the title...
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Sorry thought a fresh perspective might be nice. Instead of another thread complaining about not having 4.2.2
Thanks for contributing
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See I just want my sense to have my nice 2 finger pull-down menu from 4.2.2 and WiFi calling. Be nice if they would just add in a bigger app drawer and home screen.
I don't know why you wouldn't like the new updates/ including improved battery life and usability... Also, Wifi calling is only one that I miss the most... other than that, everything else is far superior in terms of speed, battery, and well... everything else.
I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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I agree with what your saying in regards to Roms. I quit using them a while ago and have had a much better and more consistent experience with my stock phone.
As far as the carriers go.....that's all fine and good except that Google releases updates that work immediately so it's clear that you can get updates to work from day 1. That makes me questions the motives behind carriers's relentless "testing" which, as we all know, is their way of getting people to buy new phones.
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Google also doesn't have to deal with tens of thousands of paying customers threatening to end their business relationship when there's bugs/issues like the carriers do. They have to be more careful releasing updates
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i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
ingenious247 said:
Nobody likes to wait. For anything, really. But especially us phone geeks when it comes to the newest software. It's like pure torture, and it leads to crack flashing and endless tweaking of our devices. Oh the hours lost trying to find the perfect combination of the latest cutting edge Android version and the function we want. There's always an annoying bug like severe battery drain, GPS failure, or poorly calibrated colors & audio. And while we again WAIT for another update to fix it, we flash away. Complaining the entire time about how we have to wait for another update.
But I've come to realize something. I already love my phone. Stock, right out of the box. It works perfectly. Everything I need, with no time wasted on trying to make it "better". Why should I care what number is after the decimal in my Android version? I don't. Because I'd rather wait until they make sure my phone experience won't diminish, that it will only improve when I update it. Maybe it's HTC that made me feel like this with the One. Maybe all the top tier phones are so good now, it doesn't matter if it's a Nexus. Or vanilla Android at all for that matter.
All I know is right now, my phone is perfect. And I'd hate to ruin that just because of a little decimal change in my software bragging rights. I'll wait. Take your time HTC, take your time T-Mobile.
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Really dude?
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Just remove the stupid 3 dot menu and I'll stop complaining. Really though I would prefer a first party eqs than the one I'm using now. And no I don't want to mess with rooting or roms as work email doesn't work with root.
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s10shane said:
i just want 4.2.2. i came from a nexus 4, so i'm so use to pulling down the notification bar with two fingers and accessing the little toggles right then and there. or pulling down my notification bar with one finger and being able to expand some notifications like emails so i can see more then one at a time.
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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I feel like I can wait but why did htc chose no notification toggles is weird because all the other top phones got that but it's ok they are ugly phones lol
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I had the Nexus as well. Those are small trade offs for the features of this phone. Besides it's coming lol
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yeah that is true. but i can wait. im in no hurry. this phone is fantastic the way it is now. :highfive:
Have to say I agree with op. I have come hmback to complete stock 2 times. Infused a few roms and there was just something about them that wasn't working just right. Tried 4.3 and it was blah . Missed out on the stock features I'm staying stock also.
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I returned to stock myself but I wouldn't say I actually enjoy the slow updates. I just don't enjoy custom ROM's as much as I used to. I prefer the genuine stability of what comes from the factory. Although, there are some features (a few actually) that I can't wait to receive with the 4.2 update.
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Funny XDA & all these One owners staying stock. Me too! This is my first truly problem free smartphone as in nothing, none, not one issue(other then the black menu bar) but I know it days are limited so I can wait. But they finally got a phone so right that even XDA members are going stock that's an accomplishment
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