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anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
Post in the q&a and you'll find out. Plus revolution really is not hard if you follow the video.
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jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
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Wrong section, please pay attention to where you are posting next time.
In regards to your question, there really isn't an "easier way". The AlphaRev tool is one of the easiest I have ever seen. I suppose if that is too hard you could void your warranty and go the HTC route(Not Recommended).
i already did it with HTC. i want clockwork or something.
*sigh*
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Your fellow posters are correct. If you have a question, ask it in... wait for it... Q&A!
In the future, please do your best to help keep the site nice and tidy. You will gain a greater sense of self-worth and everyone will appreciate you and write poems about you and your progeny. Thanks!
ugh i want CWM installed
jordan23945bulls said:
anyone know an easier way? -.-
i unlocked the bootloaders with HTC.
can someone please move this to the right section? sorry.
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Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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dastin1015 said:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
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thank you! ugh i really hope it does, i hate not being rooted.
Shoulda used Alpharevs revolutionary. Sorry. Not bein a ass. But you may have to wait awhile. Give it some time someone will fix it for ya.
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You will see claims from people in these forums that they were able to root and install recovery using HTC's unlocking, but those are false claims. All of those posters had been previously rooted using revolutionary.io. No one that took the OTA on a phone that hadn't previously been unlocked have been successful installing a custom recovery.
Basically you have an unlocked bootloader, now you will have to wait for someone to come up with an exploit like "rage against the cage" from the Evo to unlock the nand and attain s-off. If you had the original Evo 4g you will remember that in order to root you had to use unrevoked or Toast's method. Something similar to that will now be needed.
For those reading this your best option is to hold off using HTC's unlocker and if you haven't taken the 2.08 update use revolutionary.io to unlock your phone and if you did take the update or have a phone that came with the update, wait for an update to revolutionary.io.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
JDAWS said:
(So what 10) Oh I can root my phone I'm so cool now! Really son? You probably wear your star trek costume at the same as worshipping your phone! Get a life
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Please look up.
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Say what? If you're not contributing in a positive way, please leave the insults at home... for your cat. Thanks!
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lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
SayWhat10 said:
lol im saying man
not sure why people rush to htc unlock and THEN wonder how to do things...
but ok, i'll just refer to the other guy for the correct answer to this thread:
Since you followed HTC's method you are stuck as of right now. Their method unlocks your bootloader, but still has a NAND lock keeping you from flashing to different partitions. This situation is similar to the OG Evo if I'm not mistaken. Just wait around and a root method should appear.
better?
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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I completely agree that many of the new users do often get a bit excited and "rush" to root or unlock their devices (without fully understanding or reading directions) and end up in a lurch. But not a single person on this forum should log in to make a person feel bad or incompetent. If you see someone that jumped the gun and is lost, please help them. If you can't, then just let someone who can do it. We are all here to learn and help each other out. Let's stick to that and everyone will be happy.
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Amen! I totally agree.
Furthermore, vBulletin, phpBB, Wiki* and most technologies used to share and publish information and content are just terribly inefficient in regards to topics like these (Android, rooting, development, tech, etc.). Newcomers simply can not come into forums like these and find the info or content they want consistently. You can tag, break stuff up into sub-forums and make stickies like 3M 'til your blue in the face but until you fully understand a noob's thought process and behavior and have the software reflect that we forever will have these problems.
One temporary resolution is to try to change the one variable we can change in this equation. That is to try to cease the negative comments since we already know noobs and their questions are a constant.
Do not use the HTC root method, just use the Revolutionary method and before doing so download and copy TWRP and a ROM and flash in HBOOT\Recovery
root with s-on
Like an idiot, I unlocked my bootloader via official HTC way. I have not rooted my phone with revolutionary, my phone was completely stock. I was able to flash CWM via fastboot and install superuser via CWM.
I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
IN the past, I have post sincere question to my concern, however I have found that many of you don't care for us newbies, is discouraging for some of us, that we are trying to keep with some of you who seems to know much, about gadgets, but not about people.
So help us out, we are part of the community that use this system.
thanks for your patience's
olmo47
olmo47 said:
I have a question please:
I have uproot it the EVO 3D, two moths back, and I have get this two updates, (but unsuccessfully fail) not sure if I need them
Android 2.3.4
HTC 3.0
Software 2.08.651.3
1-system enhancement 29.13 mb
2- OTA_Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5-2.08.651.3_release_2353522hivy65lggcg2tmb.zip
How to update?
or
Do I need them?
IN the past, I have post sincere question to my concern, however I have found that many of you don't care for us newbies, is discouraging for some of us, that we are trying to keep with some of you who seems to know much, about gadgets, but not about people.
So help us out, we are part of the community that use this system.
thanks for your patience's
olmo47
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Is your phone rooted? Did you unlock your phone using Revolutionary or the HTC unlock method? If you're not sure, pull the battery out and put it back in, then hold volume down while you turn the phone back on. Look to see what bootloader version you have, see if it's s-off or s-on, and if you're on hboot 1.5, see if it says locked, unlocked, or relocked.
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
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alainater said:
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
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Truly I didn't know, not sure (if I don't need the updates) how to check on the phone so update won't show.
thank for being patiences.
olmo47
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Is your phone rooted? Did you unlock your phone using Revolutionary or the HTC unlock method? If you're not sure, pull the battery out and put it back in, then hold volume down while you turn the phone back on. Look to see what bootloader version you have, see if it's s-off or s-on, and if you're on hboot 1.5, see if it says locked, unlocked, or relocked.
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S-on RL
HBoot 1.50.0000
alainater said:
I'm confused on what you wanna know. If you're rooted then you never wanna take an update. If you're not rooted and don't plan on rooting then yeah go ahead and take the update.
And hey guys, lets help him and not flame him? Flaming goes nowhere. Should be in q/a section btw
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I like to apologize if what I said in my post irritated some, my intention wasn't that of 'Flaming', sorry.
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
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Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums & Read the Forum Rules
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Do I have to repost it here or your have transfer it to the Q/A forum?
thanks
olmo47 said:
I like to apologize if what I said in my post irritated some, my intention wasn't that of 'Flaming', sorry.
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No, I was saying usually if people post in the development section with non development stuff they get flamed I was trying to save you haha
Swyped from mah 3vo!
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No, I was saying usually if people post in the development section with non development stuff they get flamed I was trying to save you haha
Swyped from mah 3vo!
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thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
olmo47 said:
thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
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Haha no problem man. If you need anything pm me!
Swyped from mah 3vo!
But so if you're s-on most likely you aren't rooted. Are you wanting to tour your phone? Or are you just wondering if you would take the ota update?
Swyped from mah 3vo!
olmo47 said:
thanks, I truly need help, to know how to do things on the evo, but some of the term you guys use (technical) is some what overwhelming (I reed as much as I can understand) and hard to keep up.
thanks again.
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I had the same problems with my phone. It took me about 4 days to get my phone rooted. which was today.
1. Update your phone to 2.17
2. Go to HTC Dev and unlock your phone. if this does not work reinstall the RUU from http://shipped-roms.com/ match up your phone software with the RUU software. you can download the EXE or Zip if you want. Retry HTC Unlock
3. follow one of these two guides
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=22492525
http://htcevohacks.com/htc-evo-3d-hacks/how-to-root-evo-3d-2-08-651-2-and-later-htc-unlock-method/
4. After this you should be rooted and installing roms in no time.
Hello everyone, I've searched with no luck, Anyways, I'm getting my htc3d on fri(7/27), and have been doing my homework for about 2 weeks, I understand why, and how to unlock, root, s-off, etc. However, I haven't found out what is the best order to do things, Is there a specific order, or does it matter? I have read through plenty of guides and am starting to feel confident but since I am a noob I wanted someone more seasoned then I to point me in the right direction. Please if there is a guide out there that is all inclusive please link it for me. I'm sure this has been beat to death but ironicly I couldn't find it. Thanks in advance!
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Hello everyone, I've searched with no luck, Anyways, I'm getting my htc3d on fri(7/27), and have been doing my homework for about 2 weeks, I understand why, and how to unlock, root, s-off, etc. However, I haven't found out what is the best order to do things, Is there a specific order, or does it matter? I have read through plenty of guides and am starting to feel confident but since I am a noob I wanted someone more seasoned then I to point me in the right direction. Please if there is a guide out there that is all inclusive please link it for me. I'm sure this has been beat to death but ironicly I couldn't find it. Thanks in advance!
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Yes, follow directions try this thread, hope this helps, awesome phone but I can't believe it's still available. Before you flash make sure you are reading the appropriate guildlines for either gsm or cdma phone.Usually Usa is almost all cdma.:fingers-crossed: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1248231
more help please
I did the HTC unlock method with no problems, I rooted my phone with no problems, I did the J-bear wiretrick with no problems and agreed to install the jbear hboot. Now my phone reboots with the jbear screen and I cant figure out how to get out of it, Additionaly, and I know I'm gonna catch hell for this is, I did not make a backup of my phone, I was following several guides and in doing so I didnt make one, What should I do next? When I hold down vol down and power I get:
=Juopunut Bear=
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.5050
Radio-1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
aug 7 2011,10:21:40
HBOOT
etc.
Thanks to all that reply!
Fastboot flash a recovery. Please don't ask how. Search.
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fixed it!
dcu1976 said:
I did the HTC unlock method with no problems, I rooted my phone with no problems, I did the J-bear wiretrick with no problems and agreed to install the jbear hboot. Now my phone reboots with the jbear screen and I cant figure out how to get out of it, Additionaly, and I know I'm gonna catch hell for this is, I did not make a backup of my phone, I was following several guides and in doing so I didnt make one, What should I do next? When I hold down vol down and power I get:
=Juopunut Bear=
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.50.5050
Radio-1.06.00.1216
eMMC-boot
aug 7 2011,10:21:40
HBOOT
etc.
Thanks to all that reply!
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I found the fix, what you have to do is goto hbootusb and then connect usb cable and then from cammand prompt from where you have your j-bear program and run it with a -f (example) c: controlbear-f. Idid controlbear-r first then the -f after and my phone is back up and running again!
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I found the fix, what you have to do is goto hbootusb and then connect usb cable and then from cammand prompt from where you have your j-bear program and run it with a -f (example) c: controlbear-f. Idid controlbear-r first then the -f after and my phone is back up and running again!
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Good job sir. Enjoy.
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zcink said:
Run the Juopunut Bear software again with your phone attached and run this command:
controlbear.exe -r
I will uninstall the Juopunut Bear Boot.img. Somehow it didn't uninstall itself. Maybe you disconnected the phone before it was done? Anyway run that command. Check to see if you have s-off.
If it doesn't work then run this command:
controlbear.exe -f
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I know I am going to sound like a liar but I searched everywhere on the net and found those commands and did them, when I decided to post how I fixed it I didn't even read the responses to this thread, Either way I wanted to say Thank you for posting the fix, well at least I can confirm that those commands do in fact fix the J-bear boot issue! I'm so excited! I now am unlocked, rooted, w/ s-off. BTW, I did do a backup I thought when it wasn't in the root of the sd card that it didn't create it, I found the location of the backup file. I was so relived to discover that it was in fact on my sd card! Thanks everyone and don't buy an iPhone!
The i what?
NineInchNails said:
The i what?
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You know, that thing that copied Samsung.
Save the Drama for your Mama with Tapatalk 2
coal686 said:
You know, that thing that copied Samsung.
Save the Drama for your Mama with Tapatalk 2
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Sam who?
I don't know him. I only know that dude HTC and he's a OK guy. He actually listened to users and created HTC-dev for us. I haven't had a need to use it but know others have.
NineInchNails said:
Sam who?
I don't know him. I only know that dude HTC and he's a OK guy. He actually listened to users and created HTC-dev for us. I haven't had a need to use it but know others have.
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I literally LOL'd at this hahahaha I'm thanking you for making my grave yard shift bearable for a few moments haha
dgomez720 said:
I literally LOL'd at this hahahaha I'm thanking you for making my grave yard shift bearable for a few moments haha
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I work grave too but night off tonight vampires we are
is a splendid one to behold
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I work grave too but night off tonight vampires we are
is a splendid one to behold
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LUCKY! This is my first night on graveyard for this company LOL first graveyard desk job ever haha yes, I do concur at the fact that we're vampires haha
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I work grave too but night off tonight vampires we are
is a splendid one to behold
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LUCKY! This is my first night on graveyard for this company LOL first graveyard desk job ever haha yes, I do concur at the fact that we're vampires haha
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Graveyard sucks. One of my brothers got ulcers from drinking too much coffee trying to stay awake when he was on 3rd shift. My other brother goes to the casino on his days off just to find something to do at 3AM.
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Anyone here on xda used this successfully??
re:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...2777-evo-4g-lte-1-22-651-3-root-easy.html#anb
WTF do people take DEVs threads and post them on the her sites is beyond me. Rega's name want even mentioned. His thread was copied and pasted word for word. And the guy mentions its not his work and thanks to the guys who made it. Jezz, seriously irritates me. Not you lol. Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Here's the original thread you want http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1690919
Msor people here used it including myself. I used it with the older version. But the dev is a cool dude. He'll help ya in any way he can.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
ronnienyc said:
Ah good to know.
So it works fine for partial ROOT - so you can flash ROMs etc?
Thanks.
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Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
Yes, I have used Rega's tool on other phones in the past. I just didn't know this was available for this 651.3 version on this phone.
Just started using the Evo LTE about a week ago, and I am hoping to instsall Mean ROM to make it a little more responsive
Also, my phone already says "TAMPERED."
Is there any way to get rid of that?
reverepats said:
Yes this will set you up to do all that. . Best part is, that it wont report to HTC that you Unlocked your bootloader. The conventional way would report it to HTC and void your warranty. It will also ssh TWRP recovery and install SU and busy box. Please, just make sure you read the directions thoroughly. Make sure u have e the correct drivers and such. About e the directions you'll see all the requirements before running the MOD. Any troubles, just post your questions there. Rega's awesome. After you'll be all set to flash ROMs and such. There are a couple of limitations without S-Off but it doesn't sound like you wanna go to far.
Sent Blazing w/ Viper4G
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Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
eddy0090 said:
Im pretty new to android so forgive me, but im looking to unlock and root using this method but i see it uses htcdev.com.
am i incorrect in saying that going with htcdev.com method my warrant WILL be voided? or am i missing sumthing.
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Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
fachadick said:
Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
eddy0090 said:
gotcha. thanks. one more dumb question, not really sure what s-on s-off is. and do i need to be s-off if i want to flash custom roms?
thanks again this community kicks a$$!
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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To answer the easier question first, no, you don't have to be s-off to flash roms.
As to what it is and what it means, once you go to Regaw's thread, hit his name, go to his stats, and check out the link of threads that he's started. He did a pretty good write up on what s-off is, and what it means.
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will do thanks much!
fachadick said:
Normally with HTCDev, you're giving them your personal information, like your name, in exchange for the unlock key. With Regaw's method, it randomizes one of a hundred names, so they never actually have your specific info on file.
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I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
jbhorner said:
I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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no, you're not incorrect - HTC will have the devices information on file as part of the token, but they will not have your name and registration information. This does not prove that the phone was unlocked, only that the unlock information was requested for your phone. As an fyi also, the fine print states that htc specific warranty may be voided by unlocking, not that it will be.
jbhorner said:
I've not utilized this process, so I'm speaking from a position of ignorance. But, regardless of the name used, etc., it would seem to me that ANY method utilized will provided the IMEI/Serial # of the handset. This said, HTC will have a record that the phone was unlocked, and would still certainly have an ability to say it is not eligible for certain warranty claims.
Am I incorrect?
Joel
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They will only have a record that you REQUESTED an unlock code. There is no way they can prove that you actually USED it, unless your device obviously says "UNLOCKED" or "RELOCKED" in the bootloader (which it invariably will until S-OFF is achieved for the new HBOOT).
Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
EDIT: Also see above
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Besides the fact that no one ever sends their device back to HTC for service, so it's not typically relevant anyway.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I just did. Sprint only has a 15 day warranty on phones now (unless you purchase the insurance.) And mine was a couple months old, with a borked antenna and dropping calls. So it is off to HTC for a warranty repair/replacement.
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I guess if you don't want to pay Sprint the $35 to have them fix it, then yes, you'd have to send it back to HTC, but if they determine there's nothing wrong with the phone, they just send it back to you unfixed, and at your expense. That's why I'm going to try and never send anything back to them .
reverepats I never took any credit it was not brought up on AC before so I was just trying to help people out because there was a lot of threads of people asking how to root the new update so i dont get why your mad about this? Far as being a word for word copy it was not so dont go there some things may be close but I put up a link to his thread and gave credit
Greetings! I hope you are having a fine day!
I am writing this to try to alleviate future issues for some of you.
Sunday night, I posted instructions for installing a certain update manually. Now, I am S-Off, and just assumed when I wrote it that anybody else flashing stuff like that would be too. This was apparently my mistake.
So in an effort to try to prevent future problems I am writing this, and hoping many of you will read it, and pay attention. Although I know that usually doesn't happen.
So, here we go:
If you are planning to manually flash anything other than a ROM, you should be S-Off. There is no excuse not to be, and no reason you shouldn't do it.
First, it's completely reversible. Second, it removes the "Unlocked" message from your phone.
It prevents the mainver older issue.
It lets you pretty much flash anything you want, whenever you want, as long as the phone is physically able. This means, if you flash something and it goes wrong, you can flash backwards to what you had before.
After S-Off, you DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK!!!!!! I cannot say this enough. S-Off is a step beyond unlocking. This is why we do it!
Reverting to S-On is as simple as flashing a full, released, OTA RUU and issuing a fastboot command to change the flag. Although the only reason I could see to do that is to return the phone.
If you aren't sure that a set of directions apply to you, ask first!
If you are following the directions, and something goes wrong, STOP!!!!!! Do not guess what to do, or try to go backwards unless you know for a fact it will work. Go online and ask for help. If you ask properly, somebody will help you. Some people live for the chance to help others.
When asking for help, say what you had before you started, what you were trying to do (with a link), what step you were on, and what the unexpected result was. POST THE EXACT MESSAGES!!!! Not an abbreviated version.
If a post does not specify that you need to be S-Off, read through the instructions before you start. If you see anything to do with a PH98IMG.zip file, or going into HBOOT, assume you should S-Off first. Simply to be safe.
I know this was all disjointed, but I was simply posting my responses to issues I see all too often that could easily have been avoided, or resolved much easier.
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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dsb9938 said:
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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Exactly. Plus educate yourself.
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also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
Thanks for the write up.
To be honest I am not sure what to do to update my firmware from that 100mb ota after reading that thread several times. Or if I even need to if I don't have a use for the gsm stuff. I am s-off though.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I am running ics firmware on the viper rom.
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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hgoldner said:
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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While everything you said is true, people just need to be nicer to each other. We are all here to help each other, no need to be mean about it. :highfive:
antp121 said:
also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
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Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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wlmeng11 said:
Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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I ruu'd that morning. I was playing mw3 and I completely spaced. It's all good now so does it matter?
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OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
synisterwolf said:
OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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Google?
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86shelby said:
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
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With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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Geoi1006 said:
With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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I agree more people need to read and remember the rules and posts like this as well. Thank you for posting this, however i do disagree with one thing. I recently upgraded my firmware to the ICS update OTA(not the ICS update itself but the update that was pushed shortly after) which updated my hboot to 2.27, Locked. All is fine until I needed to flash a boot.img because of boot manager. No big deal until I get a "remote not allowed" return on a fastboot flash boot boot.img command. For some reason I can not for the life of me create a flashable zip to be flashed in recovery, and I'm too lazy to take my sdcard out to put a PH98IMG.ZIP file on there to flash boot.img in bootloader. So I had to unlock my bootloader to perform the fastboot command needed to get my phone back. Until there is a patched hboot 2.27, you will need to unlock your bootloader, or downgrade to jb_hboot. Just my 2 cents...
Great post. Thanks for writing it up.
I tried numerous times to get s off, and it just didnt work for me. I dont have a land line or a spare phone so I am very dependant on my phone. I can't have it in non working phone.
I appreciate all the work the drvs do and all the people who help us out to make our phones top notch. However, I do like how the devs have s on and s off roms
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
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I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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That's definitely talking down to people. It's a big wave of arrogance emitting from this thread. Keep in mind a lot of these dudes are young Btw.
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scy1192 said:
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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Actually, bricking your phone, as unlikely as that is, is less likely when s-off since there are more options to recovery if you mess up.
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