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I'm a truck driver, I work 12-16 hours a day. I use my bolt to listen to my hometown radio shows, and slacker when they aren't on.
Is it a bad thing to have it plugged in all day? I read once its fully charged it runs off the charger power..
Thoughts?
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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Someone did a test and after being fully charged the phone resorts to a trickle charge so you should be okay but probably.not the best thing for your battery.
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so i came from the evo 4G where people threw hissy fits both ways. There were people who would claim left and right that it is bad for the battery, that the battery will catch fire, melt, explode, what have you, and then there was the other like 80% of us who used trickle charging with out a problem.
personally, and what I seemed to notice, the like 6 people who actually claimed to have issues with trickle charging had purchased and were using super cheap chinese batteries.
So i am going to disagree, and say there will be no issue with trickle charging unless you start using cheap chinese batteries, and even then the percentage chance of you having an issue is so minor.
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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zipkicker said:
I have noticed that until it gets to 100% it gets awfully hot. If I leave it charged/plugged in all day its cool to the touch.
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looking at battery monitor widget my phone after hitting 100% charge is pulling 180 or less mA while "idle" and the temp sits about 32-33C. Seems to keep the Voltage very very steady. Whatever HTC did I really doubt it will hurt your phone in anyway.
I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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I don't think it will hurt the phone. I do think it will make the battery have even less life though. I.e, when you finally do unplug it, the battery won't last very long. Batteries need to be charged and discharged often to work well.
My laptop at home stays plugged in all the time. And when I unplug it, it lasts about 10 minutes on the battery. lol
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uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
nosympathy said:
uh, false statement is fasle.
http://www.laptoptravel.com/Article.aspx?ID=214
your laptop battery is probably not a lithium-ion battery. Please read said link. Your laptop battery is a NiMH which has the "memory" your talking about. Our cellphones have Lithium-Ion batteries.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
R1lover said:
If you watch your phone, it stops charging when its full. I often pull the phone off the charger with less then 100 charge due to this and this is also why the bump charge will bump it back up too 100%
So leaving it plugged in ask day will have no harmful effects at all.
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now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
RafficaX said:
now how do you bump charge a tbolt that when powered off and u plug into a charger boots into recovery instead of staying off?
full instructions r1lover would be awesome bc i want to try "bump charging" but not gonna make my own unplug and plug in instruction since i never have done it before lol.
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Personally I never shut my phone off, it's on 24/7/365, if I don't want to be bothered it goes into silent mode but is always on.
For me, I plug the phone in every night when I go to bed... when I wake up, I unplug it for a minute and then plug it back in. Normally when I wake up it's anywhere between 95-100% showing.... Once I'm done getting ready I grab the phone and off I go with a full charged battery.
Unlike some phones the android phones have never kept a 100% charge while plugged in... this is one thing I do miss from the iphone, it always kept it at 100% while plugged in. The android phones stop charging when it get's to 100% and start again at an unkown %.
There is no magic... the only reason for unplulgging it is to start the charging process again.
what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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what's the exact name and publisher of that battery widget? i'd like to take a look at it.
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its battery monitor widget in the market. Its a white box with a green battery on it.
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actually battery monitor widget says the opposite. My phone continues to charge after hitting 100%. It doesn't do what my evo would do stock, where it would charge to 100%, let the phone die to 90% and then charge back to 100%.
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Use the built in battery widget and see what you get.. it will display the actual percentage on the screen.
I doubt it's a problem, it should be capable of switching to a trickle or over to powering vs. charging in the circuitry. The worst thing you can do for these relative to the charge is drain them completely and let them sit drained. These days for the longest life, you'd keep it at around 3/4 charged, but it's not a huge difference in life usually. The reason for that is lithium batteries hold a native charge by default.
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No, my statement was 100% true. It might've been irrelevant because it's a different type of battery, but it was not false as you said.
I have read that LiOn batteries do not develop memories as bad as other types, but they still do to some extent. FWIW.
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They do not have memory. I dug up an old article I wrote nearly 6 years ago where I touch on that fact even notebookforums.com/thread94560.html
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
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Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
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ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
daswahnsinn said:
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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RZJZA80 said:
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19651965&postcount=7
Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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Hi guys, I am at my wits end with this stupid phone, If its not one problem its another. I was convinced this phone would have amazing battery life once seeing my cousins AT&T version, I bought the UK T-mobile version and its been plagued with faults. The main fault it has developed now is that it won't charge past 96%, I have configured the battery and installed the 1% battery fix and nothing is happening also my battery has been draining quicker than usual. Sometimes I get 13hrs sometimes I get 7hrs!? Could someone give me some advise? I was thinking of ringing my insurance company for a replacement (as it is with my bank and usually they just replace the phone)
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You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
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You should probably research a little bit more on the forums as there is a million answers about battery life issues.
here is a guide Fix Battery Life: Ultimate guide (calibrate + post#2 -FIXES)
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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thats the guide I have followed, it does not work for me
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Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
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Yes it does. Charge with the phone turned off and it will get to 100%.
Also, read post #2.
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I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
How long have you had the phone?
One thing we all have to consider is that since the dev community has had to provide "fixes" for the Battery Reading on the Atrix it might be safe to say that at some point the measurement might become too accurate. What I mean by this is, I've had my phone for almost a year now and I'm pretty convinced that the reason my battery won't charge past 97% is because of the natural degradation of the lithium battery. It is a fact that lithium batteries can lose up to 10% of its charge capacity after a year. So I've accepted the fact that my battery just might be losing capacity and the battery mods I have applied to my phone are just that much more accurate.
This reminds me of the recently released Galaxy Nexus and people complaining about the signal and Verizon responded with that the "reading" was too accurate and that they'll release a patch that will basically "lie" to the end user about the strength of their connection.
http://www.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-nexus-signal-strength-its-not-us-its-you
Verizon is just basically saying "Here, let us cripple your phone for you"
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I'm sorry, are you sitting in front of my phone? I have followed this correctly on another atrix and it has worked for them, I don't know why its not working on mine I have followed it through properly.
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I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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I have had the phone for about 3 months now. This is why I am saying its weird. The fact that it dies so quickly is another thing I got about 7 hours of moderate use with about 1hr 45 display time with 10 mins of music and about 10 texts and a few phone calls(about 3 short 5 min ones)l
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Could be a faulty battery. If you've only had it 3 months I would try to get the battery replaced if it has drain issues.
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All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
CaelanT said:
All of you are talking percent. What is the power level of the battery at max charge? Battery showing charging to 100%, or any other percent, and having full charge are not the same thing.
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The battery never reaches 100 on the phone it will sit there at 96% and even the battery calibration app says the battery isnt at 4200mv (which apparently it should be) its at 4190. I never charge mid way I always let the phone get to about 15% then chuck it on charge.
You make a good point, I use Battery Monitor Widget Pro and keep an eye on usage time rather than battery level.
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Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
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Well I use the internal android one but I want to know whats draining it because today nothing was running, i had everything shut down and frozen that wasn't necessary.
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You might need to use a 3rd party app to find the "rogue" app/process. Other than BMW, I also use System Panel to monitor it if I notice my usage time is depleting, it works well. You have to have monitoring activated and it's only available on the paid version, but you can use the free version to manually watch your apps/processes.
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Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
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Ok so I recalibrated the battery and got rid of the 96% freeze but now the drain is quicker than ever :S
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have you tried wiping battery stats as well? Also, when you recalibrate, do you go through a couple "full" charge cycles? As in, do you allow the phone to fully discharge and then completely charge it plus at least an extra hour? I know that lithium batteries do not have the "memory effect" but I think it has more to do with software rather than the battery itself.
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yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
Something else you could try that I've read around here.
1. Charge the battery for like 4 hours until it won't charge anymore.
2. Unplug the phone from the charger, turn it off, and then pull the battery out
3. Plug the phone back into the charger (Do not put the battery back in yet)
4. Wait for the phone to show an image of a battery with a question mark in it.
5. Put the battery back in.
6. Wait for it to recognize the battery, it will probably give a very low percentage like 5% or 10%.
7. Do not turn it on yet, let it charge for another hour or so.
8. Once you return, it will still probably show a low battery reading, ignore that and boot into recovery while it's still plugged in by long-pressing the power button and when you see the green led notification light press and hold volume down
9. Wipe battery stats and then reboot.
10. Wait for it to boot and then unplug it from the charger and check the battery reading.
I really don't understand what this does but I've read it has fixed the issue for some people.
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yeah i do wipe battery stats but the mAh is not going to 4200 its stuck at 4186 nd wont go past 98%
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If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
lakshay03 said:
If I keep my phone on charging even after its on 100%, it starts rolling back. As in from 100 to 99 then 98, even if its pluggen in.
Don't know what kind of a problem this is, hardware or software.
Or there's some issue with the battery.
Please help.
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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Sometimes I have the same problem. I dont know if it is caused of a program running in a background or what, but reboot helps
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I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
lakshay03 said:
I know the reboot helps.
But usually I put it on charging at night before sleeping.
And when I wake up in the morning, the battery % becomes even less than what it was when i plugged it in.
I'm usually in a hurry then to leave for college in the morning . Can't go to college with battery % less than even 10
Thanks for the reply anyway !
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Maybe You have some program that syncs something all the time. Did You try to turn off data and wifi. You can always check it if the reason is the hardware or Software. Just make a backup of Your whole ROM, delete the data and leave the phone over night. I hope it is only software problem.
EDIT: Does Your battery go hot while charging? Oh, and try to wipe battery stats
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Yes, my battery does get hot while charging.
And I did wipe the battery stats but its of no use.
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Maybe there is really some program that is causing that. I had this problem rarely so I never cared. I had one program called Batterymonitor or sth. like that and it was the reason. Do You have such a program, that shows Your battery level or temperature?
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Yes, I have setcpu and rom toolbox.
But would these applications really cause this problem?
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The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: I had a tip on charging here but removed it after further research read more about batt here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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The x10 charges the battery to full then if still plugged in it will stop charging until batt drains to set level ,then will charge to full again and over and over all night. X10 wont over charge batt when left plugged in. Kernel/bootloader handle this. There is an app current widget that can log charge levels.
EDIT: the best tip I usr for battery life is, let batt runout until phone shuts off, then pull batt, then plug in charger, then replace batt into phone, then phone will boot, enter xrecovery on first boot and wipe batt stats. After wipe while still in xrec pull batt then unplug. Now plug in phone then insert batt. Phone should boot in charge mode( big batt icon only on screen) dont start phone untill light green for 1-2 hours to get full charge . I do this about once a month, when phone starts to shut off around 15%
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As mentioned above as well, this is normal. After charging to 100%, the phone stops battery charging, and will activate charging again only when battery falls a bit (say 97%). Also, battery heating while on charging (and also when using the phone continuously while playing a game) is normal. Relax.. your phone is fine
@ToledoJab
I am having the same issue with battery... phone switching off at 15%, even at 22-23%, when playing a game or something. But switching it back on, and leaving it idle, phone might run for another 2 hours. So it is the extra load while running a game that the phone cant take any longer (i remember getting the 15%,10% and 5% reminders earlier while playing games)...? Does the battery calibrate method actually help in your case? does it go all the way down to 0% or 1% before shutting down.. ?
I just did this after posting that. And yes my phone reported warnings @ 25% 15 10 5 and then shutdown @ 1%.
This way is like reconditioning an old rechargeable ni-cad batt.
All this does is completey drain batt then, with least amount of drainage (phone on, apps& radios running) allows battery to full charge.
There is also a way called recalibrate battery. But this way over charges the batt.
EDIT: I think the phone load will effect reported batt left. I think batt gage use average loads to estimate remaining power. Meaning games, full brightness of LCD, radios -3g -GPS -WiFi -Bluetooth will use more than avg power
edit 2: I found this thread also has some very good points and links. after reading this i will not intentionally take my batt to 0%. I hit 0% about 1-2 times a month on accident as it is. i will just make sure when i do go 0% to wipe stats (dont know if it helps or not) then preform a long (overnight) full charge with phone off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445698
SORRY for ranting on about this, i thought i was smart but i am still/always learning.
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Hi everyone i have been using wifi 5.0 about 3 months now it satisfied me enough and i am sure will continue. But the only issue which makes me unhappy is when i am gaming or using gps battery finishes rapidly. I would like to learn when to charge the device is 25% ok and when i am using it on charge even when its full is it bad for the battery life?
Yes you should unplug it when it gets full.
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durukankurum said:
Hi everyone i have been using wifi 5.0 about 3 months now it satisfied me enough and i am sure will continue. But the only issue which makes me unhappy is when i am gaming or using gps battery finishes rapidly. I would like to learn when to charge the device is 25% ok and when i am using it on charge even when its full is it bad for the battery life?
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don't leave it on the charger longer then 20-30 minutes after it reaches 100%, any longer can be damaging to the battery if done repeatedly.
Wish these chargers were more like the motorola ecomoto chargers that cut off charging automaticaly once the battery hits capacity.
daniel644 said:
don't leave it on the charger longer then 20-30 minutes after it reaches 100%, any longer can be damaging to the battery if done repeatedly.
Wish these chargers were more like the motorola ecomoto chargers that cut off charging automaticaly once the battery hits capacity.
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Thank you for your answer but every time i am charging it over nights i am always turning it off and go to sleep what i want to say i cant wait to be 100% then sleep is there any app to stop charging when its fully done. And isnt it ok while gaming o keep the charger cuz u know after playing 1 hour of fifa12 battery nearly going dead? thanks again.
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Yes you should unplug it when it gets full.
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So you mean this devices are not made for using on charge like laptops?
durukankurum said:
Thank you for your answer but every time i am charging it over nights i am always turning it off and go to sleep what i want to say i cant wait to be 100% then sleep is there any app to stop charging when its fully done. And isnt it ok while gaming o keep the charger cuz u know after playing 1 hour of fifa12 battery nearly going dead? thanks again.
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stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
daniel644 said:
stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
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yeah u are right about apps no way any app to work when the device off.
I mean maybe 1h and 20 min. with 50% brightness on and i guess fifa use more data than angry birds when ur playing.
anyway its important to know that i shouldn't keep charger on when its 100% because usually when i am home i was using it like that thanks again.
do u think the app called 'sense analog' may make the battery life shorter.
Something is definately wrong, because I can play MC3, which is even more intensive the FIFA on my Gplayer 4.0 for more than 1.5 hours and still have some life left, and the Gplayer 4.0 is only rated for 4/5 hrs and yours is rated for over eight!
After a full recharge, while still plugged in download battery calibration from the market, and follow it's instructions, after you do, while STILL plugged in, reboot. After a full reboot, unplug it, and DO NOT REBOOT until your gplayer completely dies (forces shutdown). Once that occurs, plug it in, let it charge to 100% (while on), leave at 100% for about 15 minutes, unplug, and use as normal. That should fix your issue, unless your battery is dying, which should not occur, even if you are abusing it badly, for awhile longer.
durukankurum said:
yeah u are right about apps no way any app to work when the device off.
I mean maybe 1h and 20 min. with 50% brightness on and i guess fifa use more data than angry birds when ur playing.
anyway its important to know that i shouldn't keep charger on when its 100% because usually when i am home i was using it like that thanks again.
do u think the app called 'sense analog' may make the battery life shorter.
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haven't seen the 5.0 screen in person but if the brightness levels are anything like the 4.0 why do you have it so high? My brightness is at like 15-20% with autobrightness OFF.
First, like many others already said, it sounds like something is wrong with your battery. I'm on a 4.0 and playing two hours of a really intense 3D game with auto-brightness indoors will bring the battery from 100% to 50% (maybe it even uses less battery).
Second, as to how to conserve battery life, Rule #1 (as others have said): definetely do not keep it plugged it at 100% for too long. Then, something I tried on my iPod and have been using ever since: keep the battery between 50% and 100%, and once a month, completely empty the battery (until it shuts down) and after that charge it to 100% (this is called a charge cycle). As to my iPod's battery, before I was using this, the battery life got shorter and shorter, but after, it didn't shorten noticeably anymore. On the computer I'm writing this on, for a couple of months, I barely followed this plan, and I lost about 5% of my battery capacity (I have a battery widget that tells me what the total capacity is) within one or two months, but then I started following it a little more closely, and actually got some of it back. Over six months later now, I have lost about 10% of my battery capacity (from the original capacity), except that I should do a charge cycle in the next couple of days, and the last time I did a charge cycle, I got about 5% of the original capacity back, not to mention I have broken rule #1 probably too often and for way too long, often for several hours
My 5.0 can play games for hours before it dies but it has strange batery levels..From 100% to 75% it goes very fast.around 40 minutes when you play game..and then on 75% it stays there for 2hours when you play game and with regular use it can stay all day on 75-70% ..after that it fastly drops to 25% and just when you thing you need to recharge it can stay on 25% forever..you can play 2 more hours of game on 25% or with lighy use it will stay all day on 25%.
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daniel644 said:
stopping charging has to be done within the charger itself, so no there is no app that can stop it, plus apps couldn't do anything when the device is powered down anyway.
An hour of a game kills your battery? I can play atleast an hour probably closer to 2 of angry birds and thats from less then 30% and i'm on the 4.0 player which has a much smaller battery, sounds like you've got some battery drain issues to work thru.
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This is not correct. NO modern device has ANY smarts in the external charger - nearly all current phones (and every smartphone on the market for the past 3-4 years) has a constant voltage 5.0 volt USB input. Modern "chargers" are not chargers at all - they are dumb 5 volt power supplies, nothing more.
Charging "smarts" are handled by electronics in the device itself and have been for ages. (For all practical purposes, the Player 5.0 is a Galaxy S smartphone minus the cell radio...)
The kernel and charger hardware automatically handle charge termination and restart themselves. This is, for example, why Daily Driver can charge at higher current levels than stock at low battery (but drop the current as the battery reaches nearly full in order to stress the battery less).
Oh, as far as battery percentage display - the method used for estimating state of charge on the Players is abysmally primitive and highly inaccurate.
Battery Charging YP-G70
I always charge my completely standard YP-G70 overnight. As I understand it, the charger only provides voltage and in this case it's 5vdc. The device's battery management software draws the required current to charge the battery. If you install 3c's "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" you can see a charging graph showing the current levels drawn over the full period of charging. The charging current is stepped to control battery temperature and is reduced as the battery approaches full charge. By the time the battery reaches full charge the current draw is down to a trickle charge and will not overcook the battery. I usually leave the device switched on, which further protects it by maintaining a small load. One of the problems I have found with this device is that this charging regime, along with the fairly large capacity of the battery, mean that the battery can take up to six hours to fully charge, which confirms, in my view, that overnight charging is OK.
hanthesolo said:
Something is definately wrong, because I can play MC3, which is even more intensive the FIFA on my Gplayer 4.0 for more than 1.5 hours and still have some life left, and the Gplayer 4.0 is only rated for 4/5 hrs and yours is rated for over eight!
After a full recharge, while still plugged in download battery calibration from the market, and follow it's instructions, after you do, while STILL plugged in, reboot. After a full reboot, unplug it, and DO NOT REBOOT until your gplayer completely dies (forces shutdown). Once that occurs, plug it in, let it charge to 100% (while on), leave at 100% for about 15 minutes, unplug, and use as normal. That should fix your issue, unless your battery is dying, which should not occur, even if you are abusing it badly, for awhile longer.
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I downloaded the app but its not working i am going to charge my device like the way u said, thank u for ur advises
Entropy512 said:
This is not correct. NO modern device has ANY smarts in the external charger - nearly all current phones (and every smartphone on the market for the past 3-4 years) has a constant voltage 5.0 volt USB input. Modern "chargers" are not chargers at all - they are dumb 5 volt power supplies, nothing more.
Charging "smarts" are handled by electronics in the device itself and have been for ages. (For all practical purposes, the Player 5.0 is a Galaxy S smartphone minus the cell radio...)
The kernel and charger hardware automatically handle charge termination and restart themselves. This is, for example, why Daily Driver can charge at higher current levels than stock at low battery (but drop the current as the battery reaches nearly full in order to stress the battery less).
Oh, as far as battery percentage display - the method used for estimating state of charge on the Players is abysmally primitive and highly inaccurate.
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First of all thank you for this valuable information, thus I can keep my device on plug while i am driving and using gps otherwise on long distance its annoying to keep checking the battery while driving with gps app on.
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
Is there an app that takes time of your battery like today I turned on at lets say 7:00am and the battery dies at 9:00 and you forget the times but the app says how long it lasted. Is there some app like that?
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3c's "Battery Monitor Widget Pro" gives all the battery information you could ever need. A data log and graphs allow performance to be analysed over any period of time. You can set markers to indicate charger plugging and unplugging times. Hope this helps.
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durukankurum said:
First of all thank you for this valuable information, thus I can keep my device on plug while i am driving and using gps otherwise on long distance its annoying to keep checking the battery while driving with gps app on.
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
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Off course it will be hot..you play game which hots cpy and gpy and at same time you recharge batery which hots battery..but if battery reach 50 degrese celsius player automaticly stop recharging no matter whow much battery is full.
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durukankurum said:
Other think is i guess its normal but just to ask, The device becomes really hot on charging while i am gaming. What do u think?
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Gaming = CPU and GPU cranking at full tilt with the display on - of course it's going to get warm.