ICS OTA - not as smooth as GB? - HTC Rezound

I've been on this "new", official ICS for a few days now and seems that from the get go, it's been a bit more sluggish then before.
yes yes, reboot, battery pull, disable this, disable that, re-install, etc etc...
It just seems no matter what I try doing with itt, it just doesn't seem as smooth anymore.
Anyone else experiencing similar ?

Cause Verizon. Is there a reason why you're staying stock? I mean sense 3.6 is crap compared to 4.0. Plus any rom that has ultra smooth rosie pretty much will solve any issues w/ UI lag.

I think it's probably because most of us did a clean install, whereas everyone who got the OTA has a lot of crap left over from Gingerbread. I'd suggest backing up your data, then reboot to the bootloader and choose Factory Reset. This won't get rid of Gingerbread, just restore you to a clean OS. You can also try dialing *2767*3855#, which should offer to reset it for you without needing to go to the bootloader.
For the record, I've never had any problems with 3.6, but I hate the vertical scrolling app drawer. Also, once you go Ultrasmooth Rosie, you never go back.
edit: originally posted a different code but that one was wrong

it's a clean install.
also, i'm currently on 'stock' as this is now the 3rd replacement rezound i've gotten in the past few months(just got it last week).
going to test it out for awhile and see if it's still having the same issues as the others before I bother doing much with it.

voxigenboy said:
it's a clean install.
also, i'm currently on 'stock' as this is now the 3rd replacement rezound i've gotten in the past few months(just got it last week).
going to test it out for awhile and see if it's still having the same issues as the others before I bother doing much with it.
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Have u enabled force gpu in developer settings.
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voxigenboy said:
I've been on this "new", official ICS for a few days now and seems that from the get go, it's been a bit more sluggish then before.
It just seems no matter what I try doing with itt, it just doesn't seem as smooth anymore.
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That's two different things. Which is it? Slower (sluggish/latency) or not as smooth (jitter)? My experience is that ICS is faster, but just as smooth.

Most people don't mean two different things. He's just simply saying its not as fast as what he experienced in gb nothing more
mike.s said:
That's two different things. Which is it? Slower (sluggish/latency) or not as smooth (jitter)? My experience is that ICS is faster, but just as smooth.
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evilstewie23 said:
Have u enabled force gpu in developer settings.
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Sorry for the ignorance but what does that do?

You can also speed up the appearance of your phone when using the stock Sense Launcher, for some reason HTC thinks it's cool to slow down the transitions and animations so they are more noticeable...
Go to Settings -> Developer Settings and select Window Animation Scale and Transition Animation Scale and set each one to "Animation Scale .5x" or "Animation Off", you should notice an improvement in the speed of the UI.

palmsole said:
Sorry for the ignorance but what does that do?
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It's fine bro lol. It just uses your gpu instead of your cpu for more things like applications. Since its not having to work like your CPU it should make things a lot smoother.
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I wasn't really having a problem as far as lag or jittering but, I did feel the window transitions were taking too long. I applied the changes suggested above and now it feels good. Thank you.

acejavelin said:
Go to Settings -> Developer Settings and select Window Animation Scale and Transition Animation Scale and set each one to "Animation Scale .5x" or "Animation Off", you should notice an improvement in the speed of the UI.
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That's the first thing I do when I flash a ROM. The default settings make the UI just too slow.

Related

Go Launcher Beta

Hey, I thought I'd share the link to the latest beta release for Go Launcher. Supports high resolution devices like ours. I have it installed right now and there's definitely a lot less lag than before - http://golauncher.goforandroid.com/2011/12/go-launcher-v2-71-beta/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=go-launcher-v2-71-beta
Nice find. Any ics themes for it yet?
I'm living on a yellow submarine
Just updated. I dont notice any difference yet.
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Lag
tbgreen89 said:
Just updated. I dont notice any difference yet.
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Same here. I'm getting the same lag.
The only launcher that gives me no lag on the Rezound is LauncherPro.
If someone has a launcher that is also lag free, by all means tell us about it, because i'm all about trying new stuff
I found another trick that might help. If you add debug.sf.hw=1 to your build.prop file it should make thing smoother.
bbeaulieu said:
I found another trick that might help. If you add debug.sf.hw=1 to your build.prop file it should make thing smoother.
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I havent thought about using that on this phone yet, but im curious about your experiences with it.
It tells the phone to use the gpu (instead of cpu) to render the UI i believe, but I wonder if any artifacting will happen. And I'm curious how it affects the battery life.
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I havent thought about using that on this phone yet, but im curious about your experiences with it.
It tells the phone to use the gpu (instead of cpu) to render the UI i believe, but I wonder if any artifacting will happen. And I'm curious how it affects the battery life.
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Yeah I was kind of wary about it myself because there must have been a reason they had it off by default, but thus far I haven't had any hiccups.

Why, oh WHY is the rezound So laggy for a duel core phone?

i have tried almost all the roms out there, sense, no sense etc and the rezound is SO laggy. especially on ICS. the last thing i tried yesterday, was the stock LEaked ICS, and i debloated it myself, and it is so slow. i had to do a battery pull 4 times on the way home last night while using instagram. honestly, im using my INC2 now, and it is so much less laggy and faster on both, ICS and GB
the specs are so nice, but man, its terrible. the ONLY thing i have not tried are custom GB roms. i SO love the look and feel of this phone, and the battery life is good. but man, i cant take the laggyness. i sooooo want to solve this
thoughts?
maybe you have a lemon?
Not sure what lag you're seeing. Mine is pretty good. Every now and then some lag will creep up but overall its lagfree and snappy.
Most roms I've tried even gb roms are somewhat laggy except rezrom gb. Nils business ics is also good for me. Ics lag is mainly due to kernel as there is no source yet. Is the stock Rom laggy for you as well? I've noticed this phone doesn't respond too well to underclocking like my EVO did
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Mine flies so maybe it is your phone... Or more than likely user error
It's not what you want to hear but that's all.I got
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Evocm7 said:
Most roms I've tried even gb roms are somewhat laggy except rezrom gb. Nils business ics is also good for me. Ics lag is mainly due to kernel as there is no source yet. Is the stock Rom laggy for you as well? I've noticed this phone doesn't respond too well to underclocking like my EVO did
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the stock ICS leaked ROm, the latest one is not to bad, but is it laggy, and froze alot. no messing with the OS at all eiter. got really hot too for the first time
duel core?
Also, coming from a 512mb phone that was also dual core this phone flies
its just the battery life that's ****
yeah that sounds like you just got a bad phone. I'm running new ICS leak, Rooted, desensed myself and whatnot, also put it into tablet mode and it flies like crazy! No overheating or bad battery life. Ya got yourself a lemon.
dalvear88 said:
yeah that sounds like you just got a bad phone. I'm running new ICS leak, Rooted, desensed myself and whatnot, also put it into tablet mode and it flies like crazy! No overheating or bad battery life. Ya got yourself a lemon.
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since im S-off, can i still exchange?
dvigue said:
i had to do a battery pull 4 times on the way home last night while using instagram.
thoughts?
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Stop using Instagram? I thought I had read somewhere that Instagram and ICS don't always play nice yet (at least on our ROMs)
Argent36 said:
Stop using Instagram? I thought I had read somewhere that Instagram and ICS don't always play nice yet (at least on our ROMs)
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hummmm...maybe..ill research it
How does one define lag anyways? What I might think is fast and quick maybe to slow for you. But as the others have said you may have a lemon. Look in the general thread for on how to s on. You will have to run the latest Gb ruu then do the s on command. I do not know it of the top of my head right now.. but make sure you are on a signed stock hboot before you s on
there's got to be something wrong with your phone. i'm still on stock & performance wise it's comperable to the galaxy nexus. oh and battery life sucks on all 4g phones.
brock350 said:
How does one define lag anyways? What I might think is fast and quick maybe to slow for you. But as the others have said you may have a lemon.
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Very true....i define lag as, when i press the home button, it takes a sec or two to get to home, all other phones i have owned goes right to home. opening apps, kinda slow compared to other phones as well. typing, VERY laggy unless i shut off vibration and the pop ups...
try factory reset it help sometimes after debloating
is ur rezound getting hot ?
its lags everytime ?
what the score u get from linpack ?
did u use setcpu ? or same app ?
dvigue said:
hummmm...maybe..ill research it
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I've used it with a few Sense 3.6 roms without issue. I'm voting on you have a bad phone also.
dvigue said:
Very true....i define lag as, when i press the home button, it takes a sec or two to get to home, all other phones i have owned goes right to home. opening apps, kinda slow compared to other phones as well. typing, VERY laggy unless i shut off vibration and the pop ups...
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Mine does not do that at all.
I do a fair bit of texting all day & using Smart Keyboard Pro with vibration/popups on I get absolutely no lag whatever.
My phone will run weeks at a time without rebooting or freezing & I don't remember it ever FCing in any situation.
mjones73 said:
I've used it with a few Sense 3.6 roms without issue. I'm voting on you have a bad phone also.
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Ahh hrm maybe it's just the Sense 4.0 ROM's that Instagram may or may not work on....haven't run a 3.6 ROM in a long time
I have a similar problem to the original post. It has been taking about 2-3 seconds to enter settings, bookmarks within browser, etc. I have boiled it down to maybe a hardware issue. My phone ran great on GB though, so idk.I am rooted with s-off on the ICS leak with the fixed kernel. It usually runs good after first installing a rom, but then lag along. And this is with no apps downloaded.
I have another unrooted, non s-off Rezound with GB and it flies. I think I am going to switch to that. Hopefully when we get official ICS I can compare the two devices.
Long story short, I have the same problem but I am finding most people don't have this lag issue. Don't know what is causing it. Maybe I screwed up my hardware during s-off.
dvigue said:
since im S-off, can i still exchange?
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I have no clue, good question though. Worth looking into for others. Although I think there is a way to get back to S-ON in a thread in the Development section? My phone was Stock S-Off so I lucked out with that, so I'm sure I can, I'm sure you would be able too as well.

got the OTA ICS update. WTF..it sucks bad.. its so damn slow and crippled

Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
voxigenboy said:
i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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Im sorry if I came off the wrong way, in a way certain parts are quite speedy...but others, like Facebook took a huge hit. I tried a few of my emulators. They seem to work. Nesoid even works despite what I have heard from others. But it seems to lag on frames. Like, the video frames will appear faster but it will skip many thus the motion is choppy instead of fluid. N64oid works faster. I guess thats a plus. I only tried Goldeneye. Typing seems more accurate, but this sollg and screen jumping business is making it very difficult to type..with what was once cake. It wont stay centered on your text. The text boxes in facebook nuke the cpu as soon as you click inside them. It wasnt bad at all before this. I have not tried maps, but since you asked, I might as well.
voxigenboy said:
i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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Update... Just tried Maps. It works with no problems. Then again, I dont have the extreme latest version. Im 2 or 3 updates behind from newest. Street view also works.
Just tried 2 more browsers to use facebook for. Angel and Dolphin, its horribly slow and unusable...
THE-COPS said:
Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Unlike on locked down Motorola phones, it is perfectly possible to revert to gingerbread.
1. Unlock Bootloader with HTCDev
2. S-OFF with juopunutbear
3. Run Gingerbread RUU
4. You can stay S-OFF and Unlocked, or if you want to, S-ON and relock.
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voxigenboy said:
i've found it to be sluggish for me also.
oh, are you able to get google maps working?
for some reason, every single time i load it, it causes my phone to reboot. worked fine before ics.
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That's a Maps issue, the latest update broke it on the Rezound.
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THE-COPS said:
Seriously, im disappointed. I loved my phone before the update, but now..after getting the update, I hate it. I want it OFF my phone. It totally fd up this phone. Pinch zoom is incredibly SLOW and CHOPPY. It freezes and lags like a SOB. And facebook...forget it. I visited the full site constantly because the mobile site caused too many problems. It used to be so fluid smooth. Now it kerps freezing and lagging. The POST/COMMENT button wont work most of the time. I have tried 2 browsers and Its the same problem on both. Also it wont stay centered when im typing. If I try to scroll it to see my text im typing, it forcfully moves back to the other location. What kind of update is this? It broke System Panel so now the cpu usage meter on the top right stays peaked out at 15xxmhz almost. Is there any way to fix these problems? 1 hour and I already cant stand it. This blows! Id rather use my Touch Pro 2 than this if I could. :/
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Sounds like the perfect time to unlock, root and install a custom ROM.
demmo86rt said:
That's a Maps issue, the latest update broke it on the Rezound.
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I've uploaded the old Google Maps to Dropbox.
http://db.tt/3tD5DpzQ
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i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
jayochs said:
i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
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I LOVE ICS, but, I'm also on NeoMAX 2.0.
jayochs said:
i said ICS sucked since day one, but noooooooobody listened. the kernel is TERRIBLE for one.
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Right? I was on gb until like a month or two ago and I still prefer gb firmware over ica firmware. I have yet to try the latest radios but I still love the gb radios
I found Opera Mobile to work better. But damn...and yea, its either revert back or custom ROM. I still have not ever flashed before. Guess its one of those things I worry about because if reading a few horror stories of someones phone being bricked after flashing or phone radio not working.
I have seen people in here praising ICS left and right like it was the best update ever. I dont come in here often enough so maybe I missed the posts saying ICS is slow. I wonder if it is Sense 3.6 causing the slowdown?
Most things are the same probably butvsome stuff is def faster and hardware acceleration/gpu rendering makes everything completely smooth and not choppy like GB. Things will get better with some gud kernels when they release source
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Most things are the same probably butvsome stuff is def faster and hardware acceleration/gpu rendering makes everything completely smooth and not choppy like GB. Things will get better with some gud kernels when they release source
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guda cheese kernels
jayochs said:
guda cheese kernels
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Delicious. Goez gud with ice cream sandwiches.... Oh you didn't know? Yea it's amazing....... lol
jayochs said:
guda cheese kernels
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Delicious. Goez gud with ice cream sandwiches.... Oh you didn't know? Yea it's amazing....... lol
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*om nom nom nom*
Do factory reset in Settings, storage.
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ICS is working flawless and 10x faster than GB. Sounds like you should try to factory reset and try again or somethings wrong. Any there's NOTHING wrong with the kernel....I have no idea why people are saying this, CPU tuner only works for rooted rezounds that have perflock disabled. Try uninstalling it
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Major update from gb to ics will cause problems if you don't wipe the phone.
But to each their own
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[Q] Laggy, choppy scrolling

Have a stock DNA and I've noticed laggy or choppy scrolling in apps such as Facebook, Instagram, even browsing the web. Is this related to Sense or a setting in the DNA?
I came from a Google Galaxy Nexus previously and didn't have this bug...the scrolling on that phone was very smooth and continuous.
have you installed anything that could be slowing it down, My DNA is far smoother than any phone ive used before, including a galaxy nexus.
You could try checking the gpu rendering option in the developer options and see if that helps
The phone will get laggy if it overheats. Is the phone hot?
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idowens said:
Have a stock DNA and I've noticed laggy or choppy scrolling in apps such as Facebook, Instagram, even browsing the web. Is this related to Sense or a setting in the DNA?
I came from a Google Galaxy Nexus previously and didn't have this bug...the scrolling on that phone was very smooth and continuous.
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Hmm...I don't have anything abnormal installed and I'm fully stock. Also, the device never gets hot (even when my GNex did.)
I suppose I could do a factory reset and try installing apps one at a time to find out if anything is slowing it down but that seems like such a PITA considering this is a quad-core phone w/ 2GB ram.
I was hoping someone else could confirm that their DNA was doing the same thing. =/
idowens said:
Hmm...I don't have anything abnormal installed and I'm fully stock. Also, the device never gets hot (even when my GNex did.)
I suppose I could do a factory reset and try installing apps one at a time to find out if anything is slowing it down but that seems like such a PITA considering this is a quad-core phone w/ 2GB ram.
I was hoping someone else could confirm that their DNA was doing the same thing. =/
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I've been having choppy scrolling in settings, trying to find what can be adjusted to make it stop showing black spots when scolling fast. But not having any lag per se.
I too have somewhat choppy scrolling in a few apps (news apps in particular). Stock also and nothing in settings or apps I have seems to affect it, nor does the heat of the device. Got a replacement phone after 3 weeks for a different problem and reinstalled everything slowly, checking to see if anything affected this issue. Nothing did. Cannot read articles as fast as on prior phones because of this, but have just adjusted my scrolling/reading habits.
Yeah it seems to be a problem sadly. In terms of loading speed and such the phone fairs fine, its just choppy as hell, I don't get it. Htc really dropped the ball on this one, with an s4 pro there's no excuse for this kind of performance. As far as I can tell its a mix of poor engineering and sense. You could probably fix the home screen choppiness with another launcher, as far as apps go....I have no clue :/
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I'm really thinking twice bout this phone because of these issues with lag and choppy scrolling. It doesn't feel this bad on my gs3 and is none existent on the nexus 4. I might try out the note 2 after this I really love this screen compared to the nexus 4
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This device is much smoother than any device I have owned and that includes the SGS3 which I currently own. The only time I see lag are in 3rd party apps which need to be updated for our device
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This device is much smoother than any device I have owned and that includes the SGS3 which I currently own. The only time I see lag are in 3rd party apps which need to be updated for our device
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I second this. Even with the occassionally choppy scrolling in some apps (only a few on my phone, mind you), I still love how fast and smooth the DNA performs generally speaking and would not trade it for a other device currently on market. I think some of this will get better as apps are updated for our device.
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I second this. Even with the occassionally choppy scrolling in some apps (only a few on my phone, mind you), I still love how fast and smooth the DNA performs generally speaking and would not trade it for a other device currently on market. I think some of this will get better as apps are updated for our device.
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Third. It's an on and off kind of thing that seems to vary from app to app. Skype scrolling lags like a mofo but USA Today and Opera have no problem whatsoever.
I have over 30+ apps installed and I got Facebook, Instagram and YouTube in the background and my phone still doesn't lag...maybe you got a defective device...don't bash the phone because you are having problems with it. Go get a replacement.
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Itzvik said:
I have over 30+ apps installed and I got Facebook, Instagram and YouTube in the background and my phone still doesn't lag...maybe you got a defective device...don't bash the phone because you are having problems with it. Go get a replacement.
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I love how everyone blames every little problem on the chance its a defective device. For the love of Christ we're talking about scrolling here, its a software issue, its not POSSIBLE for that to change on its own. Seriously, its not defective. My device lags on stock launcher with NOTHING installed. It just takes the right widget and app placement on the home screen. I'll gladly take a video of the phone lagging on scrolling after a FULL wipe if you really want me to. But frankly I don't need to because it's a well discussed issue and I don't need to take my time proving a problem that's already been brought up so many times. Seriously, go on Google and type in 'htc dna choppiness'. Accept the fact the HTC made a mistake (and everyone does, just in different ways) and move on.
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MultiLockOn said:
I love how everyone blames every little problem on the chance its a defective device. For the love of Christ we're talking about scrolling here, its a software issue, its not POSSIBLE for that to change on its own. Seriously, its not defective. My device lags on stock launcher with NOTHING installed. It just takes the right widget and app placement on the home screen. I'll gladly take a video of the phone lagging on scrolling after a FULL wipe if you really want me to. But frankly I don't need to because it's a well discussed issue and I don't need to take my time proving a problem that's already been brought up so many times. Seriously, go on Google and type in 'htc dna choppiness'. Accept the fact the HTC made a mistake (and everyone does, just in different ways) and move on.
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If your device is lagging on the launcher then something is wrong, that is NOT normal. I can make a video of me opening up every app known to man on my phone then scrolling on my widget invested homescreen with no lag, but I don't have to because just like almost everyone else with a DNA, there isn't lag.
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Like I said I have ton of apps and mind does not lag.
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No lag/choppiness for me either. I've been multitasking most of the day today too, music, fb, instagram, forum apps etc. It's super smooth.
Only place I noticed choppiness is scrolling side to side in play music
Maybe some of the apps just need to be updated to work correctly with 1080p
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I'll gladly take a video of the phone lagging on scrolling after a FULL wipe if you really want me to.
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I'd appreciate it, if you don't mind.
My DNA is about the smoothest Android phone I've owned, and I've owned a LOT of 'em.
I don't doubt you, but I would like to see the lag....
Thanks for the offer!
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I'd appreciate it, if you don't mind.
My DNA is about the smoothest Android phone I've owned, and I've owned a LOT of 'em.
I don't doubt you, but I would like to see the lag....
Thanks for the offer!
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x2. Would love to see a video because at the moment, I'm streaming pandora, using a forum app/FB and going through NFL mobile and I'm getting no lag...
This is honestly smoother than my iPhone 4 was...and we all know how fluid iOS can be.

So what's everyones opinion on the stock ics ota?

My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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Root it but I wouldn't flash the stock ics by any means. It seems that it is slow for a lot of people.
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I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
rpatrick said:
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
musicfreak190 said:
I am on the ICS debloated deodexd rom... Slow as hell, laggy, soemtimes just does not work...... not Sandtods fault...I must say though... never had better battery life ever.
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Superwipe be4 installing santods, also follow his instructions to a T. Plus don't forget to recallibrate your bat.
Also, do not restore any apps on 1st boot.
I have no lag.
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I am on the debloat/deodex Santod released, 0 lag, everything runs smooth here, if you have issues try a fresh install following all the instructions, maybe something just didnt go 100% the first time.
Milimbar said:
If I am reading this right, you are NOT going to root the phone, and want to know if we think its worth it to upgrade from the original stock FROYO build to ICS?
YES!!!!! If you are not going to root and install a custom ROM, the ICS build has way better battery life and 80% less bloat. It should run smoother than the original FRYO build.
My recommendation tho would be to root it and install the debloated stock or a custon build by Santod once he finishes them up.
Good luck with your Bolt.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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Is there any difference in game performance between GB and the stock ICS OTA?
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I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
Also, remember that people perceived "lag" differently. So to some the stock ICS rom is laggy while to others its smooth. Unfortunately without rooting her device she won't be able to experience the difference and to decide if its worth it.
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draiken78 said:
I've noticed the lag also. I'm pretty sure it's a sense issue. Installed nova launcher and have no lag issues with lag when I use it.
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Downloaded Nova launcher, HUGE difference... Running much better now!
I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I have heard of some people having really bad lag and others for whom it worked really well. It may be an issue that actually effects each Bolt differently. However, I have noticed that many smartphone users, especially enthusiasts who frequent this forum and others, expect everything on their phones to happen instantly, quickly, the very second they click on it. Anything that takes a moment longer than that is considered "lag."
I ran the stock, unrooted ICS for several days and it ran really well. If you don't want to root her phone, or she doesn't want that, I would go ahead and take the upgrade because it is leaps and bounds ahead of froyo, GB, and Sense 2.1. Any actual lag won't even really be noticeable and the signal and battery life will improve. One thing I learned from rearing posts from early stock upgraders is that you should delete her texts before upgrading. For some reason, having lots of texts in there prior to upgrading created serious lag when opening the SMS app.
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The messages thing is perfectly true. My wife's messaging app took forever to open post update. For a few days it was near unusable. Now its better.
Milimbar said:
I never understood why people think that a different launcher on top of sense makes it run better?
Please explain it to me because the way I understood it was that sense was still all there and running in the background and you just added nova/whatever on top of it.
If thats the case another launcher can not reduce lag but if anything only add more.....
Again please inform me if I am misunderstanding this.
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I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
When you set your default launcher to Nova and the phone boots without launching the sense launcher which is technically just an app in the eyes of the phone, and the fact that Nova is better coded to be more efficient on memory/cpu/graphics I don't understand anyone's confusion on why using the launcher, or going back home from another app you would see speed increases/less lag. Not only is it much quicker, but it redraws a lot less, and I find that other apps run better with Nova running in the background as opposed to rosie.
draiken78 said:
I can't really argue that it doesn't make much sense, however using the stock launcher their would be huge lag when unlocking the phone or opening apps or the app drawer. After installing Nova Launcher the is no lag at all now. When I switch back to sense, the lag magically reappears.
No need to point out whether it seems to make sense or not. It’s the results that matter.
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My front camera, the one on the screen side, doesn't work in either camera or camcorder mode. Has anyone else noticed this? When I try to choose this camera, it just freezes and then goes back to the home screen.
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After the Verizon ICS upgrade, the lower menu buttons (home, menu, back and search) don't always light up. They seem to function ok but they are impossible to read in the dark. It seems to only happen now and then. I have not seen a pattern. Phone is not rooted. I did not notice this bad behaviour until after the ICS upgrade. It may just be a hardware issue on a 2.5 year old phone.
Anyone else notice this after ICS?
Thanks
John
No lighting problems but little things like that have me using a replacement launcher, messaging app, and locker.
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rpatrick said:
My girlfriend's thunderbolt is still running good on stock unrooted FROYO. We have great LTE coverage. I never wanted to risk a bad update. I'm not going to root her phone. Is it worth the upgrade?
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My two bits: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Your girlfriend has been happy this long on the FroYo stock unrooted phone? Why risk ruining that? No one wants an unhappy girlfiend (sic). If you're not going to root it, then there's no way to go back if you decide the upgrade is not so much "up". The exception may be if she's already planning on upgrading to a new phone: go ahead and go to ICS and see how it is, then if she doesn't like it she can at least move to a new phone with an extra few days experience with ICS, (her new phone won't likely have FroYo... )

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