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I have a problem with my battery I have my new sgs 2 and I rooted and did a new rom and all but my battery is draining really fast under moderate use! 3 hours of moderate use and I lose about 30% battery! What can be the problem? I calibrated and did speedmod kerenel, still heavy drain... in sleep mode I guess it can last like 2 days but I want to use my phone constantly without loosing so much battery
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As far as I can tell based on this information, you have no drain. It's normal that the screen consumes power. If you standby time is 2 days, then you have no battery drain.
Lower your screen brightness and avoid using white colours. And no there is nothing else you can do.
But I see slot of people who get 10 hours of use on moderate and even heavy use,.. maybe it's my rom? I use rarity rom with speedmod kernel, maybe I should use checkrom?
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MrFishiz said:
But I see slot of people who get 10 hours of use on moderate and even heavy use,.. maybe it's my rom? I use rarity rom with speedmod kernel, maybe I should use checkrom?
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No one gets 10 hours with screen on. Thats what you are talking about right? You get 3-4 hours max.
So 30% in 3 hours is normal and not bad.
Right now I got left 58% battery after almost 3 hours of moderate/ heavy use like YouTube mostly fb internet n stuff, is that normal?
I got almost half brightness with 3g always on
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Yes .
So is there any particular rom that is known to save battery?
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yes, there is a way to save more battery - use common sense.
Srry I meant to write rom but galaxy must have "fixed " it
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Whichever ROM makes you not use your phone. Probably best to choose the worst looking one you can find, so you're less likely to use it.
You still don´t understand it. The screen uses power. No matter what rom/kernel you use.
I do get it but isent there any rom that actually saves battery?
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No there isnt, at least not afaik.
Get urself Android Assistant, switch to Tools and check out Battery Use. If u click on the "Other" button u'll see exactly what drains the most power. I'm almost certain it'll look like this:
Display
Android System
Android OS
Display can only be reduced by brightness, auto-rotate screen and Auto adjust screen power (See Display settings)
Android System includes many packages. (Look up the details in the Assistant to see which ones u can kill for now)
Android OS is mostly ur CPU clock. U can get urself SetCPU (root required) to lower ur clock frequency (mines set to min 200/max 800; on demand). Everyting runs smooth and I dont see any difference besides 2-4 more hours of battery
Dont set it too low or it wont start up anymore!
The Assistant quick boost widget is also pretty useful. Just click on it and it'll kill all unused apps increasing ur TTL, even if its only a lil bit.
Hope this helps!
Offtopic:
WTF is wrong with the minor moron who added those tags! Guys, if someone is askin for help...either help or stfu!
Any mod who sees this pls remove em.
can u upload a sreenshot of ur battery information..so we can see if its normal.
there are many threads showing how to save battery, like this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351663
install cpu spy from the market and post a screenshot.
install better battery stats for 2€...or try the xda version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
dunno if its free or just a trial^^
if u can post every information u get from the apps, i could give u an answer
can u upload a sreenshot of ur battery information..so we can see if its normal.
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Hello!
My sgs2 battery lasts for 5-6 hours
Im not using it that much. I play games for 30mins and thats all. I don't use it all time.
I was thinking that battery is broken so i bought another but 2000mah and it didnt help too but lasts one more hour . Im really worried.
I have mA usage widget and it sometimes shows 600mA 300mA screen off 200mA.
I've frozen all unnecesary apps.
I have kernel siyah 2.6.7
Can someone help me?
Check for wakelocks.
[APP] BetterBatteryStats adds battery history back to Gingerbread.
Thanks but i dont think it will help
GizinPL said:
Thanks but i dont think it will help
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Brilliant. Carry on enjoying your 5-6 hour battery life then.
very funny
It will help also have you checked what is consuming battery? Do you have data, wifi or bluetooth on?
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Yes I checked everything. I have wifi bt 3g off, screen 40% in battery usage it says screen eats 70% battery and the rest is some apps 2-3%
You were given a way to possibly increase battery life from Oinky, and you dismissed what he said with "Thanks but I don't think it will help" ?
You're obviously an idiot then. And frankly, you don't deserve help at all after that.
Do you realise BetterBatteryStats is probably the best way to nail down wakelocks that can chew thru battery, once you've taken a look at the really obvious stuff ?
Clearly not.
"Some apps".
Very helpful. These apps don't have a name then? Too lazy to type them? You think we should guess?
You don't seem to want any help.You definitely don't deserve any.
Best keep your charger handy.
1. Are u using a task killer..if so don't
2. Are u rommed? It could be that theres one on x10 that ate my battery n am on a 2.6k mAh.
3. Ur kernel.. if its oc cud be a problem.
Turn mobile data, backgroud data, auto-sync and of couse your brightness, can save battery, if all this fails i suggest seeing your phone provider about it
Xperia x10i
DonutHD
DoomKernel v6
Unlocked and unbranded.. Bye bye vodafone
I would give you some help on it but I don't think you will think that would help.
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Thanks but i dont think it will help
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I've given you your first "thanks" because you've made me laugh quite hysterically.
Hope you're battery's down to 5-6 seconds soon.
Check out a poster here who goes by the sadly inappropriate name of TheMegaStar - you two are made for each other.
Original poster seems a funny guy, don't think he wants our help.
Check for wakelocks, change your modem, try a different kernel if rooted, try a new rom if rooted, don't use any task killers.
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He should definitely be checking betterbatterystats to see what is eating his battery.
This app once helped me nail down my battery problem which turned out to be facebook, the chat was signed in & drains battery like a mother....
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Switch the phone off the battery life is amazing (sorry couldnt resist)
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Thanks but i dont think it will help
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Hahah! U made my night!!! Dont leave xda anytime soon lol
looks like an iphone but powered by android baby!!!!
Halo everyone,,, I am Eamonn. Nice to meet u all in xda.
I hv just rooted my SII and I find that the battery drains heavily. I need to use three battery for a day. Thatz reli bother me so much.
It would be so nice if u can share to me how the situation can be improved.
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if you really need a significant change in your battery life try ....this.... this time no software tweeks, got borred with them all, but a small Hardware tweek
hlcheng said:
It would be so nice if u can share to me how the situation can be improved
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Use your phone less and/or plug it in.
P.S. If you think this is a vague response, I think your request for help was vague. When you go to the doctor and tell him/her you have a pain, what happens next?
And there are umpteen posts on this topic already ffs
HERE THIS ICS CUSTOM ROM DID THE TRICK FOR ME
ZACQ8 said:
if you really need a significant change in your battery life try ....this.... this time no software tweeks, got borred with them all, but a small Hardware tweek
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totally agree with ZACQ8
You can get a 2450mah battery that doesnt need a different case. Also try Android Assistant, you can view processes that are running and sort by cpu usage. Try to remove or atleast kill from startup any apps that do not need to run all the time. Most battery assistant programs do not work as after killing an app it will just load back up a few minutes later.
I got the official 2000 mAh battery which did give 15% more life. However the most effective improvement I got was from using the SpeedMod kernel and using Tasker to be more precise about when things came on.
Went from around 14 hrs stock to 30+ hrs for SpeedMod on stock rom for GB.
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Hi,
To avoid too fast draining, some classics advices are to turn off some functionalities when you not need it, by example Auto Sync. Many applications needs to be configured with less frequent synchronization (weather apps or widgets, email apps, news apps...)
And as it was mentionned, some kernels can dramatically improve your experience. I agree that Speedmod is one of the best kernel to preserve battery. You can flash it easilly via CWM.
More info here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182498
Like the title says:
I use the stock rom and after the Update on ICS i noticed my phone is getting really hot even when im not using it. I tried using advanced task killer to close app running in the background and i also close every app i use in ics multitasking... its draining battery very fast! 40 % in 30 minutes. Its not warm the whole time just sometimes it gets warm and drains battery... dont know what to do :/
YoungDipCLP said:
Like the title says:
I use the stock rom and after the Update on ICS i noticed my phone is getting really hot even when im not using it. I tried using advanced task killer to close app running in the background and i also close every app i use in ics multitasking... its draining battery very fast! 40 % in 30 minutes. Its not warm the whole time just sometimes it gets warm and drains battery... dont know what to do :/
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I had same thing using google maps with gps (as car navigation) but this is the only case. Idle it acts normal.
Taskiller self can take very much battery and make phone hoter. I really dont see + for using them. You need just check battery menu which app take so much battery and then we can help you more.
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madhouses said:
Taskiller self can take very much battery and make phone hoter. I really dont see + for using them. You need just check battery menu which app take so much battery and then we can help you more.
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Taskkiller itself is not running in background. i use it sometimes to look which app are running in background and to kill the ones i dont need. The problem is the battery status is looking normal. Display 33% phone 19% and some other apps do also drain battery.... but the problem is its only getting warm when i dont use it. sometimes when its laying on my desk i pick it up and notice this. when i look at my battery then its sometimes 20% less then 10 minutes before when i checked facebook for example. for me this must be something with the firmware or not? or some hardware defect?
maybe take it to a mobile service
Did you make wipe after ICS update? Maybe its a bad configuration after the update.
Also, you can try CPU Spy in Google Play and tell us if phone is on state "deep sleep" (when you lock the phone, it should enter this state where battery drain is minimal).
Make screenshot of Battery Usage screen and post it here.
Then install BetterBatteryStats, use it for few days, then make screenshots(Partial Wakelocks, Alarms and Processes) and post these here.
I have the same problem, but I know it comes from the Exchange service. Sometime it becomes crazy and drain the battery + heat the phone.
For now, I just have disabled my Exchange account... Not really a good solution.
I have found others thread talking about this problem on other phones (all with ICS), but found no answer.
I did not made any wipe, nor before, nor after the update (from stock GB to stock ICS).
It's not very helping, I fear...
just a few senteces about my day:
The battery was loading untill 7:15 today then i went to school; my phone in silence mode and i used it for 4-5 whatsapp messeges and maybe 3 facebook checks and 1 or 2 instagram checks.
it got hot a few times again and its on 34% now. really bad i would say. on gingerbread i had like 60-80% after a half day in school with much more use.
Now i looked what drained Battery. in ics i cant take screenshot so i just write it down:
40% Facebook Calendar Sync
19% Display
10% Phone
8% STandby
6% WLAN
5% Android Core Apps
4% Facebook
4% Android OS
2% Android System
This is the first time i look at the battery drain seeing that Calendar Sync is taking so much Battery. I still believe it could be something else because before it was nearly the same without calendar sync and display on first place.
So for now i think im going for a wipe, hoping it will be better then.
i will share my experience with you asap. :good:
woah, 40% on that FB crap?
also, the system standby usage seems a bit large also.
try to wipe it, maybe flash some other ROM and see if it helped you.
a healthy battery usage would have display at 70% or so, phonecalls 15%, then all the rest.
depends on your usage tho.
but something is definetly wrong with your phone.
you said that the problem occured after you updated it,
so i think the hardware is out of the question (if the phone worked normal before the update), i'd definetly flash something there, the stock rom is useless anyways..
there are very good roms even if you have locked BL, check kamarush and the new CyanogenTimescape rom also.
keep us updated about ur problem
Cheers!
dodsi said:
woah, 40% on that FB crap?
also, the system standby usage seems a bit large also.
try to wipe it, maybe flash some other ROM and see if it helped you.
a healthy battery usage would have display at 70% or so, phonecalls 15%, then all the rest.
depends on your usage tho.
but something is definetly wrong with your phone.
you said that the problem occured after you updated it,
so i think the hardware is out of the question (if the phone worked normal before the update), i'd definetly flash something there, the stock rom is useless anyways..
there are very good roms even if you have locked BL, check kamarush and the new CyanogenTimescape rom also.
keep us updated about ur problem
Cheers!
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what do you mean with there are good roms that do not need unlocked BL. Can i just flash them through windows without rooting?
YoungDipCLP said:
what do you mean with there are good roms that do not need unlocked BL. Can i just flash them through windows without rooting?
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No, you can flash them using CWM. Here they are:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28374539&postcount=2
YoungDipCLP said:
what do you mean with there are good roms that do not need unlocked BL. Can i just flash them through windows without rooting?
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you must root first, then copy the rom to SD, reboot in CWM, and install from there. it's pretty straightforward from there on just make sure you select "locked bootloader" when prompted.
After the update from gb to ics I didn't notice a much higher battery drain. I use it like on gb and on my feelings battery lifetime stays equal to gb. I have got an unlocked bootloader but still on stock rom using rage kernel ics 3.2.
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Soooo. I looke up what have drained my battery and it seems that the Xperia Facebook sync (The stock sync thats buildin in the normal firmware) have drained the battery. on GB everything worked fine. Now i deactivated the sync and the battery life is much better. It seems that my phone also stopped getting hot. But for me GB still had a better battery life. Today i woke up at 7 am (germany) and played Football Manager a few times between the lessons and in a free lesson so im at 16% battery now (should be ok because the football manager drains a lot of battery) and battery usage shows:
64% display
16% FMH 2012 (football manager)
7% Android System
5% Mobilfunk-Standby
4% Facebook
etc etc etc.
looks normal for me :good:
guys my battery life is fine now but i have freezes now... if i use my phone for whatsapp it sometimes just completely freezes. no chance to see a reaktion for any button any ideas wtf is going on there?
Battery drain that you've encountered is definitely not normal. I get about 3 days on ICS, and think that is what you should be getting as well. Crappy FB application is either bugged or broken, because you're not the first one that got their battery drained by FB calendar sync. My advice would be to remove FB calendar sync service, or disable it somehow, if you're not using it.
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guys my battery life is fine now but i have freezes now... if i use my phone for whatsapp it sometimes just completely freezes. no chance to see a reaktion for any button any ideas wtf is going on there?
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Did you remove all unnecessary bloatware ?
loCe45 said:
Battery drain that you've encountered is definitely not normal. I get about 3 days on ICS, and think that is what you should be getting as well. Crappy FB application is either bugged or broken, because you're not the first one that got their battery drained by FB calendar sync. My advice would be to remove FB calendar sync service, or disable it somehow, if you're not using it.
Did you remove all unnecessary bloatware ?
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On the xmp with ics you have xperia facebook. its a facebook calendar, contacts etc sync by sony. This was the app draining my battery. i disabled it and now i have like 1 1/2 day battery with normal usage.
And for my problem with the freezes. i removed all bloatware i could but my phone is not rooted. i was thinking about rooting but i'm kinda new to the xmp roms and its hard to find ics ones that are working perfectly. before i had an lg p990 and i was using cm7.2. it was working like a charm.
i know how to root the xmp i saw some tutorials but im still not convinced
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On the xmp with ics you have xperia facebook. its a facebook calendar, contacts etc sync by sony. This was the app draining my battery. i disabled it and now i have like 1 1/2 day battery with normal usage.
And for my problem with the freezes. i removed all bloatware i could but my phone is not rooted. i was thinking about rooting but i'm kinda new to the xmp roms and its hard to find ics ones that are working perfectly. before i had an lg p990 and i was using cm7.2. it was working like a charm.
i know how to root the xmp i saw some tutorials but im still not convinced
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Try to open Facebook, scroll many news until the phone start to go slower... Then, scroll a little more, and then go on Whatsapp or other app, you'll find a surprise
Hi guys.. ive been flashing all kinds of rom and kernel. In the end i find stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need after removing useless start up and freezing unwanted apps.
Had been using the default touchwiz and suprising theres no lag or redraw or whatever issues. Only set back is i cant customize my stock rom.
Battery life wise i can get up to 6 hrs screen time or maybe more. Will post screenshot after i drain my battery.
On jellybean, batt drain is more noticeable regardless using stock or any other jb roms / kernels. Personally i dont like OCing or undervolting so pls dont mention abt those here.
I am wondering who else here share the same experience with both ICS and JB. Would u still stay on ics or jb?
Would love to hear opinions
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unholygid said:
stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need
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Says it all really
I've recently returned to stock rom and kernel after trying warnamlite, miui and a few others. Stock is deco the next for battery. I'm getting nowhere near 6 hours screen time though. How are you stopping apps from starting up? Is this by freezing or have you used another method?
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Hi guys.. ive been flashing all kinds of rom and kernel. In the end i find stock Ics with stock kernel gives me both the performance and battery life i need after removing useless start up and freezing unwanted apps.
Had been using the default touchwiz and suprising theres no lag or redraw or whatever issues. Only set back is i cant customize my stock rom.
Battery life wise i can get up to 6 hrs screen time or maybe more. Will post screenshot after i drain my battery.
On jellybean, batt drain is more noticeable regardless using stock or any other jb roms / kernels. Personally i dont like OCing or undervolting so pls dont mention abt those here.
I am wondering who else here share the same experience with both ICS and JB. Would u still stay on ics or jb?
Would love to hear opinions
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You got 6 hours of screentime with data/wifi on with ICS?
Personally I've been getting better battery life with MIUI on Jellybean, but I've also been using Siyah since the first day I flashed my ROM so that might also have something to do with it. I've had experience with stock ICS and MIUI ICS as well, and the battery drain was essentially the same. I'm running a heavily customized JDUltimate though. If you don't want to undervolt or flash another ROM/kernel then JD is a great alternative. I was using stock GB on my S2 with nothing but Juice Defender and I got pretty decent battery stats, though I can't remember them right now.
mwatson said:
Stock is deco the next for battery.
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What does that mean, I don't even know if it is good or bad?
mwatson said:
I've recently returned to stock rom and kernel after trying warnamlite, miui and a few others. Stock is deco the next for battery. I'm getting nowhere near 6 hours screen time though. How are you stopping apps from starting up? Is this by freezing or have you used another method?
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Root the phone. Use ES task manager to remove useless startup. Freeze those apps u dont need with tit backup. Btw i never deleted any apps
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Bodoma said:
You got 6 hours of screentime with data/wifi on with ICS?
Personally I've been getting better battery life with MIUI on Jellybean, but I've also been using Siyah since the first day I flashed my ROM so that might also have something to do with it. I've had experience with stock ICS and MIUI ICS as well, and the battery drain was essentially the same. I'm running a heavily customized JDUltimate though. If you don't want to undervolt or flash another ROM/kernel then JD is a great alternative. I was using stock GB on my S2 with nothing but Juice Defender and I got pretty decent battery stats, though I can't remember them right now.
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Hi .. yes approx 6hrs screen time. With only 3g. But i setted my display to around 20% brightness as im indoor most of the time. I usually use the same setup to test among roms and phones as ive got 2x S3 to play with. One of it is my gfs phone. She plays lots of games so i also hear her feedback regarding the roms and kernels i flashed for her.
I find using auto brightness actually drains the battery more with continus use. I also make sure i got only essential tasks ans apps running in backgrd. Btw i have whatsapp in backgrd all the time.
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Yeah I have my brightness at the lowest setting most of the time as well, as the only time that I'm going to be in bright daylight is when I'm walking around, and I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot I figured that all of those "auto" settings actually drain more battery because of their constant turning off and on and adjusting and etc...it seems like it would consume unnecessary CPU power.
How do you manage which apps run in the background?
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Yeah I have my brightness at the lowest setting most of the time as well, as the only time that I'm going to be in bright daylight is when I'm walking around, and I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot I figured that all of those "auto" settings actually drain more battery because of their constant turning off and on and adjusting and etc...it seems like it would consume unnecessary CPU power.
How do you manage which apps run in the background?
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1. Root the phone
2. Install all the apps / games
3. Use ES task manager to remove unwanted startup
4. Use tit backup to freeze unwanted apps.
System apps like mapservice, secphone, samsung pushservice etc that runs in the background are frozen with tit backup and startup removed by ES task manager.
Result : No useless bloat running in your phones background. Better batt life and performance. I can achieve 300mb ram after a fresh reboot. Stays aroumd 400 to 500 range of ram after a day. Will observe ram a day more as i just flashed stock 3days ago.
But so far so good. Quad benchmark scores are a minimum 5.4k too! Will post screenshots on weekend.
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Here are my ram usage after a days use. Task manager screenshot is proof of what i had been doing with my phone without any restart.
Cant post batt life yet cos my phone is still at 75% lol.
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I went back to ICS cos of battery life I need phone that is stable first! and then battery that can last 12 hrs min with 4-5 screen time, unfortunatly ICS from my experience is just fine.Shame I want JB as well but need to be at least stable as ICS
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goose2515 said:
I went back to ICS cos of battery life I need phone that is stable first! and then battery that can last 12 hrs min with 4-5 screen time, unfortunatly ICS from my experience is just fine.Shame I want JB as well but need to be at least stable as ICS
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Yeah fully agreed. Cos i need my phone for woek. Only draw back on an odexed stock rom is it cant be themed. But then again.. doesnt really matter to me lol.
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I do care if I can change system stuff in the rom but Stability FIRST I just hope SAMSUNG will do it right this time and will provide Stable 4.1 Sammy I belive if you could do ICS stable then 4.1 will be grater for battery as well.Hope the wait for Btu is worth waiting
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Freeze those apps u dont need with tit backup.
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What is this tit back up you speak of?
Bodoma said:
I'm not going to be looking at my phone while I'm crossing the street and whatnot
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You're obviously not as addicted as me then.. I have nearly been run over countless times cos I've been fiddling when I shouldn't be! (WITH MY PHONE!)
krs360 said:
(WITH MY PHONE!)
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I had a comment all ready and you negated it!
Kangburra said:
I had a comment all ready and you negated it!
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An Aussie? Smutty humour? Never!
(I also had a juvenile chuckle earlier when someone said tit backup!)
So far my experience is in ICS's favour.
Ok. JB is latest. FIne.
BUT TELL ME SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN JB AND NOT IN ICS?
I didnt see even a single sort of such think except some added settings in settings app.
Even looks are same.
We can easily mod the ICS rom to make it look better.
For looks and functions of JB, we can use launchers ofcourse!
And personally, in JB, my ram normal usage was 500+MB.
In ICS, with same apps, its 200-300 MB. How and Why? Both stock kernels.
Also, i am used to playing games while charging. In JB, the battery only declined, even while charging when i played game. But in ics, there is charging instead of discharging even when i play games.
Therefore, jb is mess for me! So unstable with lesser battery....
"Like for ICS, comment for JB"
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An Aussie? Smutty humour? Never!
(I also had a juvenile chuckle earlier when someone said tit backup!)
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Yeah, I typed out several replies, not sure what would get me banned but I am sure a couple of them would've been close.
Users want update because its an update not because its better other wise noobs would not have flashed leaked test roms or Polish firmware .
jje