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Any Way to stop Launcher Pro from showing up in Task Manager? Would be nice, so I could use the "End All" button again.
Ikr! This makes me mad too...
But after a month I got used to pressing end seperately
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You really should stop ending tasks like that. The phone will end up using more resources/battery to restart all the apps.
The crude method of ending tasks manually/with task killers are invented for the first generation Android phones with very limited processing power and space. The newer phones don't have such problems anymore and the softwares are far more efficient at managing resources too.
What you are doing now is trying to install paddles in a car so you could 'cycle' the car like a bike.
If you want to know more: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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You really should stop ending tasks like that. The phone will end up using more resources/battery to restart all the apps.
The crude method of ending tasks manually/with task killers are invented for the first generation Android phones with very limited processing power and space. The newer phones don't have such problems anymore and the softwares are far more efficient at managing resources too.
What you are doing now is trying to install paddles in a car so you could 'cycle' the car like a bike.
If you want to know more: http://geekfor.me/faq/you-shouldnt-be-using-a-task-killer-with-android/
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Why assume that I'm wanting to free up memory? I've been around awhile now and have read the arguments about task killers, etc. Is it not ok to ask a question about a program (Task Manager) that comes stock in the ui? Still hoping for a solution...
Ever come up with any solution? I have the same issue / question. Thanks.
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Ever come up with any solution? I have the same issue / question. Thanks.
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Yea...if your gonna use Launcher Pro..it is gonna run in the task manager. If you end it and its set as your default launcher, when you hit home its gonna come back on..if you dont want it to show up...delete it or set your default launcher back to TW
Use the back button to turn off apps after you are done using them. Faster than clicking on Task Manager then pressing End and does the same thing.
After doing the rounds installing Auto Nooter on several NookColors, I thought I'd make a quick list of apps that are essential to have for any new installation. I'll update this list as needed, but hopefully it will provide new rooted users a good jumping point to get a nicely functioning device.
This list is geared towards the new rooted NookColor user who runs stable builds / auto nooted builds. If you just bought a Nook Color and haven't rooted yet, go see Guide to Nook Color Rooting. Many of these apps below will fix problems with the stock rom.
The list isn't really targeted for the Nookie Froyo bootable SD card, so if you have one, take what you will.
If you're a hip person and run custom roms or the like, you may find these useful, too! (Using ClockWorkRecovery or other roms is currently not documented in the Nook Color rooting guide. Don't attempt unless you're able to fix if things break.)
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Home Switcher - Say you accidentally set your home to not Softkeys before you got a launcher? Go grab home switcher and fix it!
ADWLauncher, or other Home screen. You need some place to run everything from. ADW Launcher is a great first step, and you can always change later.
AppBrain - An app market add-on that manages your apps for you. Much more comprehensive than current market.
Fancy Widget - Gets you started with an all-in-one clock widget you can add to your launcher, since ADW doesn't give you one by default. Add Fancy Home from the widgets menu for the comprehensive widget.
SoftLocker - Keeps wifi from bugging during a sleep by forcing sleep mode to only turn off screen. Yes, this will drain more battery, but the NC battery is huge, and not having to forcefully reconnect at every wake is worth it for people dealing with bugs. You may have to relaunch SoftLocker at reboot to get it to work properly, but that's a one-time thing per session.
DolphinBrowser HD, Miren Browser, etc. - There are plenty of better web browsers than the built-in one, mostly supporting multitouch, tabs, and more.
Root Explorer - Costs $4 at the time of this post. If you're going to spend any money on an android app, this should be it. A file management tool that is a million times better than others, since you can do a lot of simple root activities on device quickly without needing adb. It's really a very good and important to have app.
Astro File Manager - Another good file manager, but doesn't support Root. It's really good for simple file system management where you don't want to run the risk of breaking anything. Also, it can somehow install apk packages in the worst of conditions where other installers fail.
Titanium Backup - good for backing up data, or wiping data from a buggy app that keeps crashing
Thumb keyboard - $1.65 at time of posting. possibly the best keyboard for the nook. Beautiful display, customizable key and row height. Make sure to suppress full screen in options. Any keyboard requires some setup process to install via Terminal. See Replacing the Default Keyboard (You can use the terminal app below. Your app location should be /data/app/com.beansoft.keyboardplus.apk . Copy that to /system/app and use NookColor Tools to set the keyboard. This will make the market think the app isn't installed, but it works!)
Disk Usage - shows a visual representation of disk space at a glance. great app for finding where your space went!
GScript - lets you automate scripted commands. good for devs.
Android Terminal - lets you enter commands directly. good for devs.
adbwireless - adb connections over wireless. very convenient.
ROM Manager - An important app if you're using one of the newer experimental builds running from ClockworkModRecovery. If you don't know what this is, forget I even said anything about this app... Or read this link if you're really interested in some cutting edge build stuff, but ignore it if you just want a working device and you've auto nooted.
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Great list, here's a few more.
Miren browser - polished 3rd party browser with some awesome features. Slick menus and swipe to go forward and back sold me.
Thumb keyboard - possibly the best keyboard for the nook. I'm currently using the honeycomb skin and it looks fantastic. Customizable key and row height. Perfect for my huge thumbs.
Astro - file manager, compression handler, app installer,image and sound player....all around a badass app essential to any android device.
Also wanted to mention that root explorer is excellent. Forget logging on your computer to modify a file. I changed my nook hardware keys in a minute or so using root explorer. Great app.
Dont forget rom manager and the knowledge of howto make a nandroid with it
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 (zoom2)/Tapatalk Pro
DROPBOX...Move .apks, music, movies, new flashables, ANYTHING, from phone, PC, or another Nook to yours. Should be 2nd on list beside Root Explorer (IMHO).
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Great list. Consider adding Tasker. Total device automation.
Can anyone recommend a good ram manager? I have autokill but I notice it does not kill everything and says my ram available keeps going down until I reset my nook. (gradually but still kind of annoying)
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Can anyone recommend a good ram manager? I have autokill but I notice it does not kill everything and says my ram available keeps going down until I reset my nook. (gradually but still kind of annoying)
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If you are on the stock os 1.1 (Eclair 2.1) you may want to look into Advanced Task Killer. If you are on Froyo or higher you shouldn't use this. Android will do a good job taking care of itself.
That said, I reboot my Android devices once every couple of days. I notice that keeps it running pretty well.
I actually have been using advanced task killer on froyo. Will that hurt anything?
I found WiFi Explorer (FREE) or Pro ($1.60) very useful to move files between my computer and NC without a cable.
Besides some of the other great apps people have said I would add 'Pulse' as an RSS reader. It looks so good and a great way to get your news!
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Tasker turns a smartphone into a SMART phone.
I thought about getting it to try to enable a numeric lock code, and trying on my DX, it does work with one of the Locale plugins, but it's a bit flaky. I was gonna set the Nook so that if it was within range of my WiFi at home or at work, it would not have the lock code, but everywhere else, it would be enabled.
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I actually have been using advanced task killer on froyo. Will that hurt anything?
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Yes....You are running froyo...android 2.2 and above optimizes running apps/services...don't mess with it...keep one around if you have to kill a rogue app on the fly, but dont let it run continuously....
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DROPBOX...Move .apks, music, movies, new flashables, ANYTHING, from phone, PC, or another Nook to yours. Should be 2nd on list beside Root Explorer (IMHO).
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plus one for both of these
Tapatalk or XDA devs Android app for reading this site, duh! hehe
Two great app to how!
I would only add two additional apps to this great list...
Sqlite Editor and Task killer, great apps to have on a newly rooted nook color!
I would strongly recommend the following:
Moon+ Reader for reading ebooks
Perfect viewer for comics
Epistle for taking notes (synchronises with dropbox)
I use ATK a lot on my DroidX with Froyo, if not it just keeps on getting slower and the battery drains quickly. What happens is some apps keep transmitting even though you closed them. For example, USA Today app I believe keeps sending fresh news articles even after you close the app as it's still running. So keeping it alive when you may not look at it until a few days later is wasteful of battery life and slows other stuff you want to do. Was it works with 2.1, I don't think so, I believe ATK is just as relavent now than then.
The app you really need to get after Angry Birds is Paper Toss.
File Expert?
I use File Expert for managing my files on my nook. It's free, has an option to run as root, and has a built in network interface that works out of the box. Plus having a back button right on the UI makes it easier than using any of the soft keys hacks... I can't post links, but the package is called "xcxin.filexpert" on the market.
OKay, so this is my first android phone, coming from an Iphone 4 and let me tell you im about 80% disappointed.
Here are some problems im having, im hoping that you can help me turn that 80 into a 20.
1. Apps just randomly run in the background: I'll close all but my live background, my task manager and my alarm clock and go to sleep. When I wake up almost EVERY SINGLE app I have is running in the background. Why? How do I stop this, the Iphone never did this, I feel this is a hard fail on androids part.
2. Many apps force close while im trying to use them: Ive tried stock rom, and serenity 8, same apps same issues. Its becoming a turn off to use the phone for any apps.
3. Multitasking: Is there any? MOST of the time when I switch apps and "multitask" its just like having the app open at the start page, I dont have to reload the app but its not where I last left it like the Iphone. Even on web pages I find if I switch out of the web and go to another app if I return to the web im back at my home page and I have to go to my history just to get back where I was. Is there a way for me to fix this?
4: Ram usage: when I turn my phone off, then on I see 150 in the used ram. This number raises even with out opening any apps. I kill all apps and close all running programs I see nothing running except services and it raises as high as 600 mb with 0 apps open and nothing running except a live background and the task manager. My iphone never had a memory leak, how do I fix this? 600 mb to do nothing is a bit excessive.
As a software developer im really confused as how Google tricked everyone that android was good. Perhaps Im just uninformed and that is why I am here. I am wondering why there would be all these problems right out of the box on an item that is what 4th 5th generation? These are problems that shouldnt be as frequent in 1st and 2nd generations. Any help would be wonderful thank you.
1. this question has been asked a million times. In short, the Android OS handles memory much different than you'd expect. An app will appear as running after you close it but it may not be. Android just keeps that memory allocated to that app in case you need to use it again. But if the OS needs that memory for something else, it will release it from that app and use it for something else.
2. what apps FC on you?
3. i'll leave this for someone else to explain because I dont use the browser much so I dont have much experience with that.
4. this goes along with my answer for #1. Android OS likes to have its memory allocated but it doesnt mean those apps are running.
I might be a little off on my explanation so I'll leave it to the experts to clarify but i'm pretty sure i'm fairly accurate.
1/4 - Not deficiencies, Android is designed that way. If an app is resident in memory, it is more readily accessible. Some badly written apps DO more than just sit there in the task list - but most are OK. Sitting in memory is not bad - holding a wakelock or showing up in your battery usage is.
2 - No clue - not having this problem here. I haven't seen an FC in a few weeks, and the last one was my own fault. What apps?
3) This depends on the app. However, usually the browser returns to wherever I last was when I use it. In fact I wish it were easier to "go home"...
3) Matter of using the right button. Close the app with the home button, and restart it where it left off. Back out of the app with the back button, and start over.
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
i really dont know what to tell you about the FC's because none of those FC on me ... whether I was stock or not. That just doesnt sound right. If you're stock, it shouldn't be FC'ing at all. I can understand if you're rooted and running S8 or some other ROM. Maybe something happened during the flash but stock should be fine.
I'm also trying out the browser on my phone and if I load a random website, go home, open another app and go back to the browser, its still on the last page I viewed.
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List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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If you're swithing from app to app, and want to do it more quickly, hold the home button for a few seconds (pretty much anywhere, no need to go 'home' first). It will open up a list of the last 6 apps you've used. Pretty sure from the point you left off.
holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
Chase
email
Gmail
maps
market
netflix
web
I'm running Serendipity 8.1 and do not have any problems with these apps from your list. You may need to re-flash.
Edit: what Entropy said.
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holding the home button does work pretty well, although sometimes it does not have the last couple apps I was using, mainly Go SMS pro. I am currently running S8 thought it was stable, guess i'll reflash and give this another go for a week, if not then its return to the IP and trade this back for the 4s. Thanks for the help!
Any suggestion on what rom to flash to?
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any of them are good but I personally use UnNamed. You really should wipe your phone first. Thats probably why you have so many FC's. When you flash a new rom, make sure you do NOT restore system apps via Titanium Backup (if thats what you use).
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Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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i think thats exactly what happened because having that many FC's is not normal .
DKS1282 said:
List off apps that FC on me Both stock and Serenity 8:
Alarm Clock Plus
Chase
email
Gmail
hootsuite
maps
market
netflix
qik
web
Also no matter how I work the web 60% of the time I start back at my home page.
Lastly to do anything on android it seems like a process, just to switch from one app to another I have to do this, then that, then this, now im on my other app... Iphones multitasking is button click im there. Is there a multitasking app that works kinda like iphones? I really like the tray that holds ALL my open apps. Im trying hard to like this phone and android but being able to customize and have widgets just does not seem like it is worth it. Unless there are some really big secrets im missing.
Thank you all for the answers as well!
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
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Lot of user error here. I'm on the stock ROM with root.
Switch apps quickly by holding home.
If you use the back button to exit an app then you truly are exiting the app. Use home if you want it to start running.
Don't worry about ram usage. This device has 1GB and Android manages it very well without you ever having to worry.
I never have force closes unless it's the developers issue. If you're running from backed up apps then you can expect to have FCs. Install from fresh if you try a new ROM.
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I think the main reason the op is having his browser reset most of the time is because the op is using some kind if task killer. This task killer is also probably the cause of a significant portion of the fc's being experienced.
There should be a forum rule against people who run task killers then complain about fc's, laggy apps, and problems with multitasking.
I mean it should be obvious running a "task killer" on a device designed specifically to multitask - it is so silly. Look at the two phrases side by side "task killer" "multitasking device" - can you see what I mean.
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To switch between running apps all you have to do is long press the home button - one press to see the last six open apps and your there.
Having the browser return to the home page every time just means you don't know what you are doing.
Being concerned about what is being held in ram its also a sign you don't know what you are doing. The memory chip where the ram resides, where you see a list of apps being held has to remain powered on all the time. Whether it is holding 250 MB of data, 500 MB of data or just 10 MB of data it will still be drawing the same amount of power. And just because an apps data is being held in ram does not necessarily mean it is running. Top see what us running you need to check cpu usage.
The only time to concerned about ram is if more than 85% is being used then you would start having problems. But this does not happen on our phones, and only would happen if you had something causing a major memory leak.
All of your force closes are related to you or your particular phone. I have maybe five fc's in a month and three of those happened while I was running cm7.
Just because you don't know how to use a device does not make the device a general fail. Let's put the blame where it belongs, on the guy who has no understanding on what is going on with the processes in the device and drawing conclusions on based on an obviously ignorant perception those observations.
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I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Not that I know of. There are little tricks like that and a good majority of people would never know of them I'm afraid.
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jmj12us said:
I have upgraded to the Galaxy S2 from the Iphone 3gs. The long pressing of home button to bring up apps is something I did not know. Is there a thread somewhere to get this kind of information. Very helpful, thanks
Jim
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Samsung has a tips and tricks page specifically for the AT&T GS2 that may show you some things you didn't know. One thing I didn't know was that you can take a screenshot with stock by pressing the power button and the home button at the same time. I also didn't know you can access the clipboard to show everything you "copied" from text fields.
http://www.samsung.com/us/article/tips--tricks-galaxy-s-ii-at-t-
As far as the OP's issues, I have all of those apps except for chase and hootsuite installed on stock and I don't FC at all. For the browser concerns, you may just be opening a new window each time you run the browser from the app icon. Try zooming all the way out of the page and then pinch to zoom out once more and it will show you the windows you have open, or you can press the menu key and select windows. The icon for "windows" in the menu will have a number on it if you have more than one open.
Entropy512 said:
Having THAT many apps FC on you is usually a sign that you did one of two things:
1) Forgot to wipe data/factory reset when installing a new ROM
2) Performed an improper Titanium Backup restore - restoring more than just "MISSING apps and data"
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Number 1... I didnt do that. I didnt think I had to off of a stock rom, but your right, I should have.
Thread cleaned... Please do not make me have to do so again. This forum is for friendly discussion.. Lets keep it that way.
edit --- I see Devine madcat is pushing back to topic
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I've noticed that on my Nokia Lumia 800, you can not exit programs or close them down, its seems i can only press back or the windows button.
Are these now running in the background and causing my battery to suffer?
If so are there any sort of task killers or enders.
Also 2 other issues i've noticed are that when i ring people my phone just goes black and does not give me a key pad any sort of button to end the call.
Also when i play my music, it does not have a stop button just a pause, and when i exit it just starts playing from paused. Only time i can get it to stop is when i turn my phone off/on.
Any feedback will help greatly.
WP7 has no real multitasking. So even if an app is "open" in the background it is paused and won't do anyting. Except spotify and the music app that can run in the background.
Task killers is an evil thing on Android and so would be on windows phones. They are not needed as the system handles these things better themselves.
If the screen is black after a call, press power button and it will light up. This is a bit buggy, to end calls at times. Usually I just wait till the other person ends the call so it quits automatically.
This isn't android. There's no need to worry about apps once you exit them, or worry about the music player. If it isn't playing then it isn't doing anything.
That's one of the joys of iOS and WP7. You do what you need to do and never have to worry about what the phone is doing. What's the point of a phone where you need to constantly worry about task killing?
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This isn't android. There's no need to worry about apps once you exit them, or worry about the music player. If it isn't playing then it isn't doing anything.
That's one of the joys of iOS and WP7. You do what you need to do and never have to worry about what the phone is doing. What's the point of a phone where you need to constantly worry about task killing?
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So true. I hated that about Android. Most tasks that kept starting were things I never wanted to use. Had to use Titanium Backup to freeze them. What a pain.
anseio said:
So true. I hated that about Android. Most tasks that kept starting were things I never wanted to use. Had to use Titanium Backup to freeze them. What a pain.
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Yeah, but when I had Android, all I can say is Thank God for Titanium Backup! I wish we had the equivalent on WP7 - would be nice for the few times I've had to reset my Lumia..
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Yeah, but when I had Android, all I can say is Thank God for Titanium Backup! I wish we had the equivalent on WP7 - would be nice for the few times I've had to reset my Lumia..
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There is a backup for windows phone. It's in the WP7 section of this forum. I've used it before. It backs up the entire phone. (i'd have to search for it)
Yes. Wp7 is in serious needs of a real backup/restore solution.
apollo15rover said:
Yeah, but when I had Android, all I can say is Thank God for Titanium Backup! I wish we had the equivalent on WP7 - would be nice for the few times I've had to reset my Lumia..
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Had an opportunity to encounter the main guy behind the Windowsphonehacker. I think his id is Jaxbot or something liek that.
He said that Chevron will open up shortly and that we could all unlock our devices from there. Now that he got a developer device from Nokia he is also doing hacks with it. The latest being global orientation lock.
I am just waiting for Chevron to start off again.
Hey, where here everyone hating android....
After android 2.2, there is no need of task killers..
I think you guys haven't tried android 2.2 or 2.3
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nexus2515 said:
Hey, where here everyone hating android....
After android 2.2, there is no need of task killers..
I think you guys haven't tried android 2.2 or 2.3
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Coming from 2.3.5 and 2.3.7 I can say that a task killer was necessary. Processes opened up and did whatever they wanted whenever. I had to freeze a few things in Titanium Backup and then set a whole bunch others to autokill. It's annoying that apps can up and do whatever they want whenever they want on the Android OS.
nexus2515 said:
Hey, where here everyone hating android....
After android 2.2, there is no need of task killers..
I think you guys haven't tried android 2.2 or 2.3
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That's just not true. The resource management on Android is problematic. The problem isn't that apps I'm using and switching between are still using resources in the background. If I opened an app and I expect it to still do something, that's fine. The problem is that after an hour or two, if you check any task manager, a ton of apps are listed as running.
You can say these apps aren't really running all the time and are frozen, but they were running at some point without me starting them. These apps do take resources, drain battery and make the phone's performance crap. Everytime I would kill those tasks, the phone would be snappy again. Setting a task killer to automatically kill these apps once an hour, increases battery life.
on ios and windows phone, only one app is really running and the others are suspended. There are a few exceptions (like music players)
on windows phone, you can completely control which apps are allowed to work in the background and start on their own and the OS controls when these apps can run to perform some operation and devs are very limited in what they can do. so apps don't start on their own without the user being able to control that and apps don't stay running in the background forever without the user ever knowing about it
nexus2515 said:
Hey, where here everyone hating android....
After android 2.2, there is no need of task killers..
I think you guys haven't tried android 2.2 or 2.3
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are you kidding me????
once i had adds on my taskbar due to some auto start app.
adempozhari said:
are you kidding me????
once i had adds on my taskbar due to some auto start app.
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I'm sorry, but if you actually use an app that uses AirPush ads, it's your fault.
Never ever support developers that use this useless piece of crap ad service.
I happen to know a thing or two about mobile development (not only Android but also iOS and WP7) and they are all designed to not have to care about task killers.
Also, if someone really has to bash an OS because of problem X or Y, take a look at how the system works and realize that everything is perfect (for example, Android keeps the VM running to make the app start up faster, but as long as no code has to run through, the VM is just sitting there. Why have all the RAM if you're not using it?)
Please guys, start to read things up if you have no clue. Nobody should have to care about task killers at all and that's what ALL of our current mobile OS's are designed for. Start to develop apps for every single OS if you really want to brag about restrictions and design problems.
beidl said:
I'm sorry, but if you actually use an app that uses AirPush ads, it's your fault.
Never ever support developers that use this useless piece of crap ad service.
I happen to know a thing or two about mobile development (not only Android but also iOS and WP7) and they are all designed to not have to care about task killers.
Also, if someone really has to bash an OS because of problem X or Y, take a look at how the system works and realize that everything is perfect (for example, Android keeps the VM running to make the app start up faster, but as long as no code has to run through, the VM is just sitting there. Why have all the RAM if you're not using it?)
Please guys, start to read things up if you have no clue. Nobody should have to care about task killers at all and that's what ALL of our current mobile OS's are designed for. Start to develop apps for every single OS if you really want to brag about restrictions and design problems.
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Ok, this is great and all that no one should have to think about task killers, but the obvious truth is that Android allows things to run whenever they damn well want to.
For example: Google Books likes to run in the background. Why? I don't use it. I don't want it. Yet, it still does what it wants to.
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Ok, this is great and all that no one should have to think about task killers, but the obvious truth is that Android allows things to run whenever they damn well want to.
For example: Google Books likes to run in the background. Why? I don't use it. I don't want it. Yet, it still does what it wants to.
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The virtual machine is just sitting there, doing nothing. It helps speed up restarting the app in case it has been wiped off the memory. The VM still is in RAM, but no execution is happening as long as you start the app up again. Also, it might be itting in the background, doing nothing, waiting for the Google services to trigger a sync, in case a new book has been added to your library. If you have sync disabled in your account settings then it's just sitting there doing absolutely nothing and will finally be just wiped off the memory itself in case an app needs the resources.
With task killers, you kill a lot of apps that are flagged as "Don't kill me, I'll reapper as soon as possible", causing more trouble because the whole VM process has to be restarted, the app has to be reinitiated, code has to be reexecuted etc. That's the perfect way of working against how an operating system works.
To add a point,
it's important to note that there are 2 different things being discussed here:
1) Cached tasks that are suppose to not cause any lag, but do. We know this because we see immediate lag fixes after killing cached tasks but not services.
2) Services that are unnecessary, such as Google Books and Fring.
I think there's a reason why Apple chooses to disallow multitasking even if it's a quintessential as playing a tune while browsing on the iPad in 2012 - it may be a crude solution but it's simple.
Personally I'm tied to a battery hog app due to social means, so I'm looking for an automated service killer for Fring.
There is also the 3rd accusation
3) that the service 'Android OS' in ICS 4.0.3 causes drain in some circumstances for some people who have installed apps but also ruled out (1) & (2)... possibly wake lock related even though there should be no wake locks.
People rarely disagree on things enough to argue unless they're actually talking about different things without noticing. So be sure to clarify which of these 3 wakelock related things you are talking about to keep everyone sweet.
The best of course is to blank everything and start again for testing but failing that use a wake lock measuring app. Can anyone recommend one for me?
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Guys, Can I pls get your help for the below issues I have with my Sony Tablet S
I cant seem to "close"recently used apps', even after completely shutting down & disconnecting power. Its like I want to "delete browsing history" on a PC
I cant seem to log-out of Gmail at all as I can't see an option to do so.
The remote control learner does not learn at all, inspite of following all instructions. I have a Pioneer Amp to control music, but I've had no luck. After some research I've found out that the tablet can only learn from some models post 2011. Is this true?
I also have an Onkyo reciever for which I've downloaded the andriod app. This works well, but the app inevitably starts with the wrong orientation - inspite of my best efforts to hold the tab in the correct direction in which the app opened the last time. (It seems to rotate regardless)
I have no other issues such as force close or auto dimming as per my understanding of the most frequent issues on this forum
Thanks for your help guys. I really need it. Cheers
You could use "Advanced Task Killer free ( Or pro )
If you close an app does not mean it really shuts down but it wil stay there in memory,
The Task Killer will terminate all running apps.
Gmail is always running unless you uncheck the auto synchronize with Gmail,
you can find that in Settings / Accounts if that's what you meant.
I have several IR devices and i choose them from the device list no problems at all some actions didn't work well so I had to learn it from my remote control that worked fine to.
Orientation is a known issue but if you have your tablet rooted you could use a rotation app which requires root access something like full rotation i quess can't remember.
Don't mind my English
The novice said:
Guys, Can I pls get your help for the below issues I have with my Sony Tablet S
The remote control learner does not learn at all, inspite of following all instructions. I have a Pioneer Amp to control music, but I've had no luck. After some research I've found out that the tablet can only learn from some models post 2011. Is this true?
Thanks for your help guys. I really need it. Cheers
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I have learned my tablet remotes from Dreambox 800HD (digitalbox for cable) and from my Harman Kardon AVR255 EU (reciever) and both are pre 2011. I also got it to work with a tv and digitalbox when I was visiting my father in the US. Can't remember the models though, but no problems with the remote. The tv in US was an old "fat-tv" not the new flat-tv
Honeycomb has no built-in method of killing apps at user request and for a good reason: Android does a better job itself. If Android needs to kill an app, it will do so, so you don't need to do it yourself. As for clearing history and the like, thats a bit trickier, but the stock Browser does include Incognito tabs for private browsing.
Gmail, on the other hand cannot be logged out of unless you go into Settings -> Accounts & Sync and either turn off Gmail sync (which still leaves you signed in, but not updating) or simply delete the Google Account. Gmail's not really made to be signed in or out of regularly.
As for your problems with the IR, thats definitely not the case and whatever your problems are, they're relatively isolated. Can you give us more detail on what you've tried and what happens when you do so?
With your Onkyo app, that almost invariably means that the developer has not included landscape support. If there is no landscape option for an app, it will force rotate to portrait, or vice versa if the app doesn't have portrait support. If you're sure they have, make sure that the Auto-Rotate Screen in your Settings toggles is set to On and if it still doesnt work, email the developer and let them know. Could be an isolated issue.
The question was not how to kill apps the question was how to delete recently opened apps and I have this question too. It seems there is no way.
Where are you finding these recently closed apps? As far as I knew Honeycomb didn't have any equivalent of the pre-3.0 "hold home button" dialog. The multitasking button in the bottom left shows running, paused and killed apps together, so there is no way to differentiate between recently used and closed apps, and recently used but still running apps.
maybe this helps
Schrammi said:
The question was not how to kill apps the question was how to delete recently opened apps and I have this question too. It seems there is no way.
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dont know about honeycomb cause i never tried this on it but on ics u can drag the apps out of the recently opened apps drawer and it disappears... try it... maybe it helps... or u can wait for the ics update to help u get rid of this issue....
Yes on ICS. But ICS came out last night us only for the moment. And with he there is no way.
bassir.masood said:
dont know about honeycomb cause i never tried this on it but on ics u can drag the apps out of the recently opened apps drawer and it disappears... try it... maybe it helps... or u can wait for the ics update to help u get rid of this issue....
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As Schrammi said, that is a new ICS feature and on Honeycomb, the only way to clear apps from the multitasking panel is to reboot (which will also end the app, obviously)