I recently installed a ROM based on the OTA ICS update, and it seems like my camera is having difficulty focusing (similar problem I had when I used the Chase app for my OG Droid). It will attempt to focus, at some point during the process will focus properly, goes past the optimal focus point and ends up out of focus.
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Does this happen when only taking macro shots? I've had this problem since gb and it has something to do with the lighting. The problem isnt constant but it does happen often. I've searched around and it seems like a lot of HTC phones have this.
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I just noticed this the other day, I was trying to get a close up shot and it would not focus, so I turned macro on and it still wouldn't focus. I even flashed one of the camera mods, I think 1.5?? and still didn't fix it.
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Nope it's out of focus for pretty much any type of shot, no matter where I focus on the screen. (Auto-focus off, Face Detection off, btw).
It seems the problem is depth of field, I think. I don't know the terminology, but I describe it as a scenes with the subject in the foreground and something in the background (e.g. a person standing in front of a mountain backdrop).
If it's a scene like the one described above, it will just kinda focus in-between because it's confused if it should focus on the person or the mountain. If i'm taking a photo of something, say a wallet on a desk, it will do an OK job focusing on the wallet.
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I just figured out a temporary fix. The focusing issues only occur in 4:3 mode but works just about flawlessly in 16:9.
Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has focus issues in 4:3 mode but not 16:9 mode?
I've had the same issues on all is roms lately. Fix seems to be to just stay away from 4:3 mode :/
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Junetastic said:
Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has focus issues in 4:3 mode but not 16:9 mode?
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Hmm I tried switching back to 16:9 and it does seem to have a better time focusing. Granted that could just be a placebo effect. Any other opinions?
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So why don't HDR apps work properly on our phones?
One manufacturer I contacted insisted that it was because the EVO 3D doesn't utilize the android api properly to adjust the exposure setting. I even confirmed this with HTC. You can try it out as follows: If you open the camera app and play with the exposure slider in the options, you'll see that instead of changing exposure, what it does is just bumps up the brightness of the image.
HOWEVER, yesterday I noticed that the exposure does change properly but not when you use the slider. Best way to try this is sitting next to a window on a sunny day. If you point the camera towards the window, the exposure auto adjusts you can see the details outside but anything inside the room still in the frame just looks dark. However, if you point the camera so it's mostly pointing inside the room, you'll notice that the exposure auto-adjusts again so you can now see details of objects inside the room but any part of the window still in the frame is now completely washed out. So..auto-adjustment of exposure works.
Now in most of the these HDR apps work by taking a picture on high, medium, and low exposure and then stitches them all together. However, the app isn't able to adjust the exposure settings properly and this is probably because it's tapping into the "exposure setting" in the camera's api...the same thing we are able to change when using the exposure slider on the camera app. As I said before though, the exposure slider is actually controlling the brightness. But I'm now certain that the camera is actually able to adjust the exposure but only does so through auto-adjustment. What's broken is the ability to set the exposure manually. How would one fix this?
where should i post this to get the attention of the devs who might know how to fix this?
The issue is it is a hard question. lol I don't have any idea. haha. I think the issue is we have two front cameras.
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The issue is it is a hard question. lol I don't have any idea. haha. I think the issue is we have two front cameras.
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two rear cameras my man. There's only one in the front
Interesting... I've used a couple of hdr apps on gingerbread and they appeared to work. Although I didn't do rigorous testing. All I did was compare normal pic against hdr app and I noticed a difference. However this was last summer. Maybe something changed since then.
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Oh and the stock camera app in ICS, or at least in the couple of roms I've tried, has hdr as a feature. Except it isn't true hdr I don't think. It snaps 1 pic then processes it. I didn't think there was any difference at first, but I did notice a slight improvement.
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There will always be slight differences between stock vs HDR pics because the HDR app usually does some post-processing however, if it's not taking 2 or more pictures that have the exposure adjusting drastically, you're not really getting the HDR effect.
Yes, I know about hdr... The processing and everything. I just hadn't tested these things like you have and sharing my experience.
Anyhow... I had also read others claim htc didn't use the app right months ago. Not sure why they messed that up. I'm going away for the weekend and might mess with this myself. If I see anything worth adding I will.
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Just wanted to share hdr works as it should on the latest ics leak. I just tried it on mean rom ics 1.6. Exposure adjustments in their stock app also works as it should.
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That's excellent news! Are you sure the exposure setting works properly and doesn't just change brightness? I know you probably tested it before posting but if you could do this for me and write back, i'd really appreciate it.
From inside a room from a distance, point camera towards a window. Are you able to see detail inside and outside the room by changing the exposure slider to either extreme?
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That's excellent news! Are you sure the exposure setting works properly and doesn't just change brightness? I know you probably tested it before posting but if you could do this for me and write back, i'd really appreciate it.
From inside a room from a distance, point camera towards a window. Are you able to see detail inside and outside the room by changing the exposure slider to either extreme?
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I haven't had a lot of time to play but it did work. I'm a photographer and video producer so I know what to look for. My quick test however was as a passenger in a car. I pointed it to the seat where part was in bright sun and then other was in shade, plus some of the frame of the car in shade. Stepping down showed the detail in the seat in sun, increasing it showed it in the shadows.
I also tried hdr + (I think that's the right one) and each of the 3 photos was at a different exposure, granted not by much.
There is still a bug where the front camera flips the photo left/right after it's taken, however, you only seems this after reviewing the pic.
Edit: the app was hdr camera
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Oh also fyi... The first leak did not work in relation to this.
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awesome, perhaps HTC got around to fixing it in ICS. Several months ago, I actually contacted them describing to them what was wrong with the camera. After a lot of back and forth and escalating the issue internally, I was finally able to reach the team that actually works on the stuff and they confirmed the issue and said they will include a fix "in a future release" but did not make any promises. Maybe they got around to it
I'm going to have to flash a ICS rom to test this myself once I find some spare time
I need a manual focus camcorder because I film skateboarding and tired of waiting for the camera to focus and sometimes it won't focus with my baby death fisheye attached
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I need a manual focus camcorder because I film skateboarding and tired of waiting for the camera to focus and sometimes it won't focus with my baby death fisheye attached
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Have you tried the modded hq camera?
Yea I did didn't have manual focus
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Manual focus would also be good when taking pics up real close. My cam will get in focus but the autofocus adjusts it, and its no longer in focus, this only happens up really close...lmk if you find one.
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Manual focus would also be good when taking pics up real close. My cam will get in focus but the autofocus adjusts it, and its no longer in focus, this only happens up really close...lmk if you find one.
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You do know there's a close up option right?
I know I need a like zoom slider but for focus xD
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You do know there's a close up option right?
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Yes, but it doesn't work at like 4 inches. But the phone is capable of focusing there, because in the middle of the auto focusing its clear for a second, but when it finally "focuses" its out of focus. All of my smart phones have done that.....also sometimes clear water throws off the autofocus.
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Yes, but it doesn't work at like 4 inches. But the phone is capable of focusing there, because in the middle of the auto focusing its clear for a second, but when it finally "focuses" its out of focus. All of my smart phones have done that.....also sometimes clear water throws off the autofocus.
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Use your finger and focus on the specific item on the screen, have your scene set to auto, that seems to work for me.
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Use your finger and focus on the specific item on the screen, have your scene set to auto, that seems to work for me.
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Sometimes it's nearly impossible to focus on what I want to focus on, I've been looking for a manual focus app also.
Yeah I film with a fish eye and I need manual focus because I have that problem where it won't focus
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Ever tried camera 360? That seems to have full manual control options.
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Yeah I film with a fish eye and I need manual focus because I have that problem where it won't focus
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And when you do get it focused, it focuses on something else.
So anyone tried camera 360 as yet?
Even with camera 360, on some shots I see it focus perfectly, and then it loses the focus.
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Camera fv-5
Many manual options, aperture priority, shutter priority and metering options.
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Camera fv-5
Many manual options, aperture priority, shutter priority and metering options.
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Cool app, allows a lot of extra settings(like bracketing, so you can manually create HDR thru pc apps or photoshop, better quality) - but still no manual focus(check instructions here http://www.camera.flavionet.com/tutorials/camera_manual.php)
A cool app, but I for one am still wanting to find an app that allows manual focus while still doing high quality - I don't want an app that only takes lower resolution pictures..
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A cool app, but I for one am still wanting to find an app that allows manual focus while still doing high quality - I don't want an app that only takes lower resolution pictures..
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I'm just not sure an app like that exists, based on design (of our camera and its image sensor) it seems that a manually focusing camera app would only be imitating the actual function of manual focus.
This option in fv-5 is the closest I've seen yet, though its not even similiar to true MF
" Infinity. Set the focus to infinity. Tapping on the screen always result in focus confirmation and AF is not triggered."
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Sometimes it's nearly impossible to focus on what I want to focus on, I've been looking for a manual focus app also.
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A manual focus app doesn't exist because, simply, the functions to support it do not exist.
Look on developer.android.com and you will only find autofocus functions for adjusting camera focus, like:
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public void setAutoFocusMoveCallback (Camera.AutoFocusMoveCallback cb)
Just curious why you would want to use a phone to skating? Invest a couple hundred bucks and make good quality ish.
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Just curious why you would want to use a phone to skating? Invest a couple hundred bucks and make good quality ish.
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Probably the only good quality camera they have/can afford. The camera on this phone is better than any digital camera I've bought yet. Lol also, I know after buying this phone, I was broke for awhile. I didn't have an upgrade and bought it out right.
But it is frustrating as hell when I get a picture I want to take, it focuses perfectly on the object, just to auto focus and lose it. Like, ill try and focus on an object, and during the auto focus I see it go clear for a second just to skip over this perfect shot and blur the image instead.
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okay so ever since i got the LTE EVO iv been seeing people take AMAZING close up pictures of bugs/insects that are in FOCUS!
HOW?!?!?!?!?
Ill find a bug outside and take out my LTE evo, open up the camera app and put the macro on "close up" and i can NEVER get it to atuo focus/touch focus good enough to see that its even a bug!
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i also tried it and this is the best I could get...
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im in the same boat as you guys. People say the camera is awesome but i think its sub par. My GS2 was way better than this. I get great out door pics but thats it. nothing inside.
I've been using "Depth of Field" effect for close ups and I've been getting some really good results.
I've had inconsistent results with up close pictures.
I agree that indoor pictures are bad on the auto mode.
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I've been using "Depth of Field" effect for close ups and I've been getting some really good results.
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where is this effect?
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where is this effect?
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From the Camera app, it is the blue semi-transparent button above the camera shutter button. That gives you different options for effects when taking pictures (and video also if I'm not mistaken)
Make sure you're in close up mode. Hit the A and scroll down to close up it's near the bottom.
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Make sure you're in close up mode. Hit the A and scroll down to close up it's near the bottom.
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Yes do this. Here's a close up of my otterbox clip I took and it looks pretty clear and closeup.
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Sounds like a focusing bug in the app on some phone. Try camera 360.
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First one was normal setting but zoomed fully. Second was closeup setting unzoomed.
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From the Camera app, it is the blue semi-transparent button above the camera shutter button. That gives you different options for effects when taking pictures (and video also if I'm not mistaken)
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that actually makes it even worse. it does focus on anything close up.
Close up work for me, i was probably less than an inch from the keyboard in this photo. Are you half pressing the shutter button or pressing on the screen to focus the image?
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When I press the camera button on my phone it doesn't focus at all
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When I press the camera button on my phone it doesn't focus at all
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You press it halfway and it will focus, press it down all the way and it snaps a shot. You can also focus by pressing on the object in the frame on the screen, it will actually make a noise when you do that.
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Lots of user error in this thread.
schnergun said:
im in the same boat as you guys. People say the camera is awesome but i think its sub par. My GS2 was way better than this. I get great out door pics but thats it. nothing inside.
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That's not the camera's fault. That's user error. Mine works flawlessly indoors and outdoors as well as with closeups and panoramic shots.
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From the Camera app, it is the blue semi-transparent button above the camera shutter button. That gives you different options for effects when taking pictures (and video also if I'm not mistaken)
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That changes effects (similar to Instagram) not the ability to render quality closeups.
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Sounds like a focusing bug in the app on some phone. Try camera 360.
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Wrong. It's people blaming the phone instead of taking the time to learn their phone inside and out and understand exactly how it works.
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Make sure you're in close up mode. Hit the A and scroll down to close up it's near the bottom.
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This is correct. The phone's camera has various modes to which it can be set and take a wide variety of picture types.
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Lots of user error in this thread.
That's not the camera's fault. That's user error. Mine works flawlessly indoors and outdoors as well as with closeups and panoramic shots.
That changes effects (similar to Instagram) not the ability to render quality closeups.
Wrong. It's people blaming the phone instead of taking the time to learn their phone inside and out and understand exactly how it works.
This is correct. The phone's camera has various modes to which it can be set and take a wide variety of picture types.
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Umm, the OP mentions using the mode in the 1st post.
It works perfectly for me as well but clearly not for him.
Hence a possible bug in the camera application. Just because is fine for us doesn't mean its fine across the board.
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Concordium said:
Lots of user error in this thread.
That's not the camera's fault. That's user error. Mine works flawlessly indoors and outdoors as well as with closeups and panoramic shots.
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It's unfair for people to immediately blame the camera, but by the same token, it's unfair for you to claim it's simply user error. There's a degree of subjectivity (not sure if that's even a word LOL) that needs to be taken into consideration when talking about camera and picture quality.
With that being said, my personal opinion is is that the camera software on this phone is certainly flawed. It's good, but it can be better in so many ways. The camera itself is very very good. Tons of potential there, but the software is holding it back.
As for my personal experience when I had this phone, it consistently takes very good outdoor shots, but was very hit or miss when it came to indoor, lowish light shots. I have 2 pictures that was able to find that illustrate my concern. I think the problem is with the AUTO settings. Manually changing settings prior to taking the shot will produce better pictures, but it's a bit impractical to expect that (EVEN from a phone). In regards to the physical camera button, maybe my phone was defective because the first step of the button did absolutely nothing. I was told it's supposed to SEEM like it does nothing, but that it's actually auto-focusing. In my experience, that wasn't the case. The auto-focus usually happens automatically (kind of like the iPhone 4S) center-weighted, unless you use tap-to-focus. Pressing the button didn't refocus anything. In fact, it didn't seem to do anything AT ALL. Again, my phone may have just been defective. Going to make sure to try this again when I get another one in my hands.
I'm adding a few pictures. The one of the boxes and of the notebook is a prime example of the kind of shots I would get when shooting AUTO in indoor and low-light conditions. As you can see, the shots are terrible. For some reason the camera is maxing the ISO (among other things) so they came out extremely grainy. They are perfectly focused, the image simply isn't optimized. The keyboard picture shows a much better shot. In this shot the camera did a better job of optimizing under AUTO settings. It also maxed the ISO, yet it still produced a good looking shot. This one had better light, as you can see.
Overall my grade of the camera was an 8/10, and only because of the software limitations. As a reference, I also give the Samsung Galaxy S II an 8/10. On that phone the camera itself isn't as good, but the software (or maybe just the capture algorithm) is significantly better when shooting in AUTO.
Just my 2 cents.
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You press it halfway and it will focus, press it down all the way and it snaps a shot. You can also focus by pressing on the object in the frame on the screen, it will actually make a noise when you do that.
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Um, no it doesn't.
Press it down half way to lock focus and exposure, not to command a focus.
The camera is constantly focusing. Half-pressing the shutter button only maintains the focus at the time it was pressed.
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It's unfair for people to immediately blame the camera, but by the same token, it's unfair for you to claim it's simply user error. There's a degree of subjectivity (not sure if that's even a word LOL) that needs to be taken into consideration when talking about camera and picture quality.
With that being said, my personal opinion is is that the camera software on this phone is certainly flawed. It's good, but it can be better in so many ways. The camera itself is very very good. Tons of potential there, but the software is holding it back.
As for my personal experience when I had this phone, it consistently takes very good outdoor shots, but was very hit or miss when it came to indoor, lowish light shots. I have 2 pictures that was able to find that illustrate my concern. I think the problem is with the AUTO settings. Manually changing settings prior to taking the shot will produce better pictures, but it's a bit impractical to expect that (EVEN from a phone). In regards to the physical camera button, maybe my phone was defective because the first step of the button did absolutely nothing. I was told it's supposed to SEEM like it does nothing, but that it's actually auto-focusing. In my experience, that wasn't the case. The auto-focus usually happens automatically (kind of like the iPhone 4S) center-weighted, unless you use tap-to-focus. Pressing the button didn't refocus anything. In fact, it didn't seem to do anything AT ALL. Again, my phone may have just been defective. Going to make sure to try this again when I get another one in my hands.
I'm adding a few pictures. The one of the boxes and of the notebook is a prime example of the kind of shots I would get when shooting AUTO in indoor and low-light conditions. As you can see, the shots are terrible. For some reason the camera is maxing the ISO (among other things) so they came out extremely grainy. They are perfectly focused, the image simply isn't optimized. The keyboard picture shows a much better shot. In this shot the camera did a better job of optimizing under AUTO settings. It also maxed the ISO, yet it still produced a good looking shot. This one had better light, as you can see.
Overall my grade of the camera was an 8/10, and only because of the software limitations. As a reference, I also give the Samsung Galaxy S II an 8/10. On that phone the camera itself isn't as good, but the software (or maybe just the capture algorithm) is significantly better when shooting in AUTO.
Just my 2 cents.
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Your hardware button isn't defective. It's programmed to lock focus and exposure settings instead of manually focusing.
I'm not new to Android or the Galaxy family - this is my fourth Android phone, and I'm most recently coming from the Epic 4G Touch (Galaxy SII) which has the same camera [hardware-wise] as this phone... and software wise I'd expect similar if not some improvements, given this is the next version of that phone line.
I've only had this phone a few weeks, so I'm hoping there's a setting that I'm not aware of to relieve this: the autofocus is painfully slow. Much slower than the E4GT (GSII) Why?
I was at a wedding yesterday, and missed about HALF my shots, because after pressing the shutter button, it took I'd say between 2 and 3 seconds for the camera to autofocus and finally take the picture. And - half of the time, they didn't even autofocus right, the pictures ended up blurry.
I've also observed this in the past just taking random snapshots on this phone - it didn't become such a concern until I found myself at an important event like this wedding. I can't have a camera that's completely unreliable and impossibly slow.
I didn't have this problem with the E4GT, that camera performance was absolutely beautiful. I showed off the detail of the pictures I took to my family who was taking pictures with "real" cameras. This doesn't even compare - my old HTC G1 had a faster autofocus and shutter.
What's the deal here?
Faulty camera?
I'd say you have a faulty camera? I've taken hundreds of pictures with mine, with absolutely no auto-focusing issues. It's blazing fast. If you know someone else with a GS3, try a comparison, if yours is struggling while the other one takes pictures with ease, then you have your answer. On the other hand, a software update might fix the issues. Jelly Bean should be out soon for the S3, see if that does the trick.
Which ROM/Kernel/app were u using when u took the photos?
If u used the stock ROM, it should be super fast...
That's really strange...
they are instant on mine.
which i dont like cuz i am not sure if they are well focused <.<
Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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Stock. All stock. Even still running Touchwiz.
It's only occasional. Sometimes I snap a pic and it's fast. But I never had such delays on my E4GT...
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Don't waste your time and take it to the Service Center if you re clueless.
Mine snaps instantly, and i mean it.. always.
Sounds like you are clueless. I don't appreciate that comment. And honestly, what kind of fool snap-reacts and exchanges his fully-configured phone on instinct? That's the definition of clueless. Wow.
If you tap the shutter button, yes - instant - because it skips focusing entirely.
But if you hold the shutter button down and release to take the picture, it's not instant. It's not instant when you release - it finishes focusing, THEN captures the picture. And if there's any motion of the camera (like trying to capture the bride/from walking into the reception), if anything else comes into the focus box momentarily, it seems to restart focusing again.
Even if you don't do that - if you try to whip your phone out, unlock it, open the camera, and point it at something - it initially auto-focuses on its own. It's a nice feature, but that box doesn't go green instantly - far from it.
This is a software difference, not a defect, compared to the GSII.
Yes, focus is important.
There's clue #1 for you do you don't ruin important photos.
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Sounds faulty. Tested one in the shop the other day and it worked superb.
You could try changing the focus mode to macro maybe or by a sony xperia s I hear the phone has a dedicated camera button and is 12 mp. If you want the phone to be a camera sony maybe better.
On my s2 the focus is slow like you said but I use fixed focus mode in a custom rom and just touch the screen then snap away.
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Yeah sounds like you are in macro mode, usually takes a long time and at the end it doesn't focus the object but does take the picture regardless of focus, It has happened to me too many times now... if you are on auto then there might be a problem, and HARDWARE wise this camera module is not the same as any other android in the market.. you can say it's the same as the iphone 4s but not GS2 or whatever other phone out there with 8mpix camera.
I love the camera on this, but the annoying continuous auto-focus keeps making the image get blurry. It happens when im trying to focus on something close or not as bright or contrasted. Especially in darker images. But when I get a touch lock.... it wont stay. The dumb thing automatically refocuses again and it gets blurry..
What I want is.... disable auto-focus completely (like you can on other phones in options) and keep the touch focus on. My last 2 phones did this no problem. The blurring ruins the shot. ...
lol, that answers that.
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lol, that answers that.
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Have you tried a different camera app? Maybe the Google Camera or the one from the One Plus One?
Maybe they'll work a little better for you at least. I have the 1+1 Cam if you want it
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