Is unlocking the GSM radio for AT&T illegal? - Motorola Photon 4G

I was talking with my friend the other day he is an AT&T regional manager and he said that unlocking my photons gem radio and buying service with AT&T was a federal crime. I do not believe it is but can someone give me some better info on if it is or is not?
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AaronEmoBoi said:
I was talking with my friend the other day he is an AT&T regional manager and he said that unlocking my photons gem radio and buying service with AT&T was a federal crime. I do not believe it is but can someone give me some better info on if it is or is not?
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he is full of crap/ it's your phone you can do what you want with it. and i'd tell your friend if he doesnt know what hes talking about to STFU

Alright thanks for the help
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Lots of people unlock their radio for AT&T, no one is in jail yet.

I think he just wants me to buy an ATT phone
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either he is woefully ignorant or he is lying to you. If he is lying to you, than he is not your friend.

Well he it was illegal because of ESN writing but unlocking the GSM radio does not write an ESN correct?
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1. unlocking GSM radio is not ESN writing
2. ESN cloning of another phone you own and have not activated is not illegal (i.e. you are not using 2 phones with the same ESN on a network)
3. ESN cloning of a phone you do not own for the intent of stealing signal is illegal.

Hmmm do GSM networks even use ESN's?
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AaronEmoBoi said:
Hmmm do GSM networks even use ESN's?
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no. they use imei i believe it is.

That's what I thought oh well he was wrong thanks guys for the help
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[Q] Can I use my unlocked SGS2 with Verizon?

Can I use my unlocked SGS2 with Verizon?
if unlocked you should use it with verizon
mint-an said:
if unlocked you should use it with verizon
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Are you sure? I heard it differently.
My family possibly be going to Verizon, and I look around. Most if not all the info I seen so far said no.
If there is a way, I want to know. Since I have the SGS2.
Any unlocked phone can be used on any network so yeah you can use it on Verizon
nerot said:
Any unlocked phone can be used on any network so yeah you can use it on Verizon
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We'll see. Thanks for the response.
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Yes and no, because Verizon uses cdma and not gsm and your phone is gsm based you will only be able to use voice and 2G Data, 3G will not work with your phone.
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Guys seriously? Verizon doesn't use SIM cards in order to use a phone on their network you have to use a Verizon branded phone! Sorry no unlocked phones! Sheesh feeding him wrong information could waste him a lot of money!
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Thanks that's what I wanted to hear and confirmed.
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S3 LTE ??

I have the sprint S 3 but there's no 4gLTE in my area, would I be able to get the international version and use that on the sprint network? Cause lte is the reason you can't use the quad core right?
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Can we get a Mod here. You published this post twice within 5minutes
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Yea, different sections, not allowed? I remedied it.
Fixed.
Thanks for the heads up...
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Yup np. Well its I guess like spamming and if the mods saw it, there would've been a fiasco here!
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Any info bout the lte?
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The international version doesn't have CDMA radios.
Lte will be rolling through the country later on. Get the quad if you don't want to wait til that happens
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Oh a rite so it will work, arite thanks for the help fellas
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irish.iolar said:
Oh a rite so it will work, arite thanks for the help fellas
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No no no, it won't work. Sprint uses CDMA radios, the international has GSM radios. You misunderstood.
Sprint is cdma but LTE is GSM technology. Just to complicate things.....
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nodstuff said:
Sprint is cdma but LTE is GSM technology. Just to complicate things.....
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But the international has no LTE. So it will absolutely not work on Sprint.
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People still use CDMA? Crappy technology, is crappy.
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Lol arite thanks for the info guys
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I so agree with you!!! I want to go to ATT or TMobile because they're GSM Networks but Sprint is giving me a crazy deal that I could never drop.
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People still use CDMA? Crappy technology, is crappy.
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In much of the US CDMA coverage is superior to GSM coverage. I almost never do not have at least CDMA for voice. When I was with ATT on a GSM phone that was definitely not the case.
Well maybe TMobile is better. I find with Sprint. I only get service in about 60% of the places I go
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[Q]Bad ESN work on Virgin?

My brother is thinking of getting an EVO 3D off ebay and it has a bad ESN but he wants to use it with Virgin mobile would that work or once it's a bad ESN it doesn't work with any provider?
Need to switch it with a new one... Which is illegal. Though I do have a broken virgin Android phone with a good esn
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Hmm illegal eh? Seems like he shouldn't get it then ha. Thanks for the quick answer.
A Bad ESN shouldn't activate ither way :-/
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Yeah he want's his first smartphone and bad ESNs are cheaper but now I see why. :/
He seems convinced he can do it -_-
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malicenfz said:
He seems convinced he can do it -_-
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Some providers will allow and network compatible phone on like boost. Virgin only allows web from phones they sold, so whether it's a good or bad sen does not matter. It has to be one in their system. As mentioned, you'd have to change the esn which is illegal. Possible yes, illegal yes.
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Told him that but oh well let's see what happens
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Is Straight Talk a good at&t Alternative?Other Carriers?

Im on t-mobile and this constant data drops and crappy signal in my house and everywhere u go is intolerable. I really don't wanna sign a contract but heard.good things about straight Talk. So i need advice or current user input on this matter. Or recommend me to something worth checking out. Thank you.
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StaightTalk seems pretty good for at&t users who want to change carriers with minimum fuss. Your at&t note won't need any rom or modem flashing. But, you will have to unlock it and manually input the APN settings.
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StaightTalk seems pretty good for at&t users who want to change carriers with minimum fuss. Your at&t note won't need any rom or modem flashing. But, you will have to unlock it and manually input the APN settings.
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Well any idea on how the coverage is? Just like att? data fast?
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It runs on AT&T's HSPA network. So it's the same as that. You won't get LTE though. That currently only for AT&T.
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sarcosis said:
It runs on AT&T's HSPA network. So it's the same as that. You won't get LTE though. That currently only for AT&T.
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Last question. Can i sign up at walmart without buying a phone?
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nellycruzz said:
Last question. Can i sign up at walmart without buying a phone?
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Just order a sim card online...I'm currently on ST n its got fast data speeds n good coverage
If you have an AT&T phone and plan on using ST AT&T then you don't need to unlock your phone! I'm using the GNote on straight talk AT&T without it unlocked.
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I just wanna make sure the signal and data is far better than t-mobile or not. Just wanna make sure the difference is worth it
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Y'all read this?
http://www.straighttalkwirelessforum.com/portal.php
Many data issue topics
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Anyway I can flash to boost or cricket

Just as it says, Sprint is done sticking it to me, I need cheap lol, Any help would be good
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Not that I know of
Nope
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Thanks
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I have mine flashed to Cricket, but only because I have an older CDMA number that I have been sitting on for years. AT&T just bought Cricket in May, so they are in the process of converting from the CDMA network to the GSM network. So that means all new Cricket activations have to be new GSM numbers and they are no longer activating new MDN's on the old CDMA network. With that said, I believe there might be a way to unlock this device for GSM use. I've seen threads about it. I'd recon all you'd need is the new Cricket APN settings to manually program for data, and I'm sure you can get a hold of that easily. I will have to eventually convert over to their new GSM network too, so I have been thinking about unlocking it using the methods in another thread. If I decide to do so within the next week I'll let you know how it turned out.
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Great, please do and thanks.
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Yes u can Unlock it for any GSM carrier and get HSP+ or you can flash(manually reprogram CDMA devices) to any CDMA carrier such as Pageplus Boost Mobile or even old MetroPCS CDMA network..the GSM unlock is the easiest if ur not a custom to flashing devices[emoji4]
Can you help me do it
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I fully flashed mine to Boost without a problem. I would be more than willing to help
Any guide in how to do it ?
stevestone said:
Any guide in how to do it ?
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+1
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Koont said:
+1
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So any guide ? Lool you just +1 it...

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