Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Don't accept that Motorola garbage.... Less processor speed and terrible screen also less dev support. Oh and you don't need to get back to stock to get ics just flash the ics ota in bootloader
Sent from my ADR6425LVW using xda app-developers app
please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
mayhem like me said:
Search has failed me, I have a rezound that i rooted after unlocking the bootloader and using hansons toolkit..
What is the best way to get to stock so I can accept the ICS update and re root?
I am familiar with how to relock my bootloader..
Thank you all
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've created a guide for rooted users to install the official ICS over-the-air: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
I'm also working on a guide to restore root after installing ICS. It's not too bad at all, it's just finding a simple guide that's the trick... For restoring root after ICS, you can see my response here, where I reference discussions where I asked the same questions: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1829484
mayhem like me said:
please forgive my ignorance how do I flash the over the air update on to my phone from the bootloader mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you wouldn't do that for the over the air update.
You would need to flash stock recovery (assuming you've flashed a custom recovery), and then they can install the update through Android, like normal.
The guide i posted takes you through this process, as i did it.
---------- Post added 14th August 2012 at 12:08 AM ---------- Previous post was 13th August 2012 at 11:59 PM ----------
mayhem like me said:
PS I called verizon today because my rezound is a bit fishy with the charger wanting to replace it to under warranty , they no longer have them available and are shipping the Razr Maxx as a substitute...UGGGH.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh, and if you flashed Clockwork Mod, this is likely causing your charging problems. This is why i used AR Recovery 3.15 instead.
You can either take the OTA update or install an RUU.
Both ways, you have to relocked your bootloader or S-OFF.
For the OTA, you should be stock everything.
Stock recovery and rom.
For an RUU, just make sure you are on a rom that matches your firmware.
Gingerbread ROM on Gingerbread firmware.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
mayhem like me said:
I have amon ra and I was responding to the first answer, I will try your method, do I have to go stock first or will the first step in your guide put me back to stock recovery, then relock bootloader .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
*important edit*
The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
bloodymurderlive said:
For the OTA, you need to be stock everything or it won't install. This is why I included instructions on how to revert back to stock recovery before trying the OTA.
You do not need to re-lock your hboot if you have S-OFF. What happens is that the OTA update re-locks the bootloader and you have to unlock it again if you want to play with your device (like, re-install AR Recovery). Or, if you have S-Off, you can install a different hboot that's already unlocked, and then you can flash custom recoveries, etc. But since messing with the hboot is very risky, I chose to re-unlock my hboot the HTC way after installing the OTA.
*important edit*
The OTA may have worked for me with an unlocked hboot because I was S-Off prior to updating. If you're not S-Off, you may indeed need to re-lock before updating.
However, it may be just as easy to get S-Off. It's actually very easy. I will make a very easy guide for this as well. Let me know, and I can help you through it. I'm not an expert, but it doesn't take an expert. The hardest part for me was just finding a good, uncomplicated guide - doesn't seem to be one at the moment, though there is a ton of info out there.
Anyway, let me know if you want help getting S-Off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
mayhem like me said:
Think I may have to try S off , tried to get back to stock and bootloader relocked but stock recovery would not flash,, unlocked again and restored from a backup through Amon ra
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is my new guide for S-OFF: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
It's really very easy - at least it was for me. Using the metronome audio file that I linked to, I was able to successfully complete the wire trick on my first try. It was cake when actually doing it.
Let me know if this helps.
topgun1953 said:
you need to be unlocked if you want to flash recoveries. You should have flashed the stock recovery and then relocked. (if I'm understanding what you did)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashing a different recovery doesn't modify the rom.
Sent from my NeoMax Rezound
mayhem like me said:
hmm I dont remember...lol will flashing stock recovery take away SU and bring me stock? running another nand back up now...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flashing a recovery won't affect root. The OTA will break root, but it's simple to restore. That's the easy part.
What I think you should do first is achieve S-OFF (you do not need to re-lock if you achieve S-OFF. It's easy, and it makes switching ROMs easier).
Then flash stock recovery.
Then accept OTA update(s).
Then unlock again (rather than mess with your bootloader).
Then flash superSU to restore root.
All per my instructions. I think they will make it easy as possible for you. The hardest thing, I think, is trying to find a step-by-step guide on all of this.
Just my opinion. There's a lot of info out there, but it's hard to sort through which steps you should choose to do, and when you should do them.
Related
So like most users, I was very excited to hear about the ICS leak by Football since I've been waiting MONTHS for some sort of development on that.
Getting impatient on waiting for CM9 and Evervolv builds for the Amaze, I really wanted to try this new leak for T-Mobile. So I figured that in order to do that, I must get S-Off.
It seemed like a tedious process so I've been holding it off for a while. Now that I've got a copper wire and everything, I wanted to do the deed once and for all.
So I accidentally flashed a stock rom (which I thought was a good thing since the instructions said I needed a stock rom), but I seem to have lost root access. Superuser runs, but battery calibration says I need to have root first and Titanium Backup doesn't work. However, my phone still says unlocked and I can still run ClockworkMod Recovery. The S-Off program tells me that there's an error. Is there anyone that can help?
bri.kwong94 said:
So like most users, I was very excited to hear about the ICS leak by Football since I've been waiting MONTHS for some sort of development on that.
Getting impatient on waiting for CM9 and Evervolv builds for the Amaze, I really wanted to try this new leak for T-Mobile. So I figured that in order to do that, I must get S-Off.
It seemed like a tedious process so I've been holding it off for a while. Now that I've got a copper wire and everything, I wanted to do the deed once and for all.
So I accidentally flashed a stock rom (which I thought was a good thing since the instructions said I needed a stock rom), but I seem to have lost root access. Superuser runs, but battery calibration says I need to have root first and Titanium Backup doesn't work. However, my phone still says unlocked and I can still run ClockworkMod Recovery. The S-Off program tells me that there's an error. Is there anyone that can help?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you are on T-mobile so you have two choices here. you can S-off if you want to have total freedom or you can revert your phone to stock and relock your bootloader and flash it and then re-unlock again. but remember flashign this without s-off may prevent you from getting s-off later on.
Ray196 said:
Well you are on T-mobile so you have to choices here. you can S-off if you want to have total freedom or you can revert your phone to stock and relock your bootloader and flash it and then reunlock again.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, I can't flash the PH85IMG without S-Off, right? Because on the HBoot screen, it would load the file but i wouldn't be asked if I wanted to install it. So I had no idea what to do. I thought I had to have S-Off to install it. Does this really mean I've lost root even though my phone says unlocked and I can run Clockworkmod?
bri.kwong94 said:
Well, I can't flash the PH85IMG without S-Off, right? Because on the HBoot screen, it would load the file but i wouldn't be asked if I wanted to install it. So I had no idea what to do. I thought I had to have S-Off to install it. Does this really mean I've lost root even though my phone says unlocked and I can run Clockworkmod?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can if you lock your boot loader and revert the phone to stock.
Ray196 said:
you can if you lock your boot loader and revert the phone to stock.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, how do i revert it to stock and reroot it exactly?
bri.kwong94 said:
Well, how do i revert it to stock and reroot it exactly?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think you can use this. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1493905
bri.kwong94 said:
Well, how do i revert it to stock and reroot it exactly?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pretty sure you just use fastboot to lock, open a command prompt with your phone attached in debugging mode, type in fastboot oem lock, then install the stock rom listed in the development section. (If I am wrong on this, someone please feel free to correct me.)
I have an HTC EVO 3D That I purchased yesterday, and It's been flashed to Boost Mobile (A company owned and operated by Sprint) Boost is a CDMA service. I am interested in rooting my device, but when I tried this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1218193 I was stopped because my HBOOT isn't supported. Baffled, I went searching the forums and found this:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695 unfortunately, I'm not sure if it's safe to proceed with this procedure, because I wasn't there when my phone was flashed, and I don't know if HTC Dev was used. Furthermore, I don;t know if I have S-On of S-OFF, because I didn't flash my phone. Also, it has come to my understanding that linux is required for that method of HBOOT downgrade. Is there any way I can avoid that? It's kind of a lot of trouble.
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
Edit... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1646815
wikdNoob said:
You can check if you're s-on or s-off by looking at the top of the hboot screen. Pull the batt, put it back in, hold vol down + power.
If you don't have s-off, the downgrade is easy, linux is easy. After the downgrade you have to use revolutionary.io to achieve s-off and it'll likely screw up your boost flash. I'll edit with a thread link for prepping to downgrade with a carrier flashed phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hboot says I have S-ON. By following the steps in that link you'll give, will I be able to restore my flash without losing MMS and 3G, etc.?
I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
wikdNoob said:
I'm really not sure, I've never flashed a phone. If you don't mind me asking, why do you want s-off? It's nice to have because it makes flashing roms easier but its not required to flash roms, and if your not sure you can flash your phone back, its probably not worth the risk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well the whole idea is that i need to downgrade HBOOT in order to root, and I was under the impression that to downgrade Hboot i needed to have S-OFF.
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
wikdNoob said:
No, you just need to unlock at htcdev. Then you can root, give me a sec and ill give you another link. Once you think you can flash your phone to boost, I suggest getting s-off. Just less issues with s-off flashing.
Edit... A lot of guides out there, check the roll up sticky thread. This one will probably work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239821
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THank man, i wish i could click thanks a thousand times. I'll try this method and see what i get.
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
wikdNoob said:
Any time.. btw, you might be able to do the wire trick to get s-off without messing up the flash. It's in the dev section, called something like junoputabear s-off. Ask in that thread, maybe someone will know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app. Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
_xNova said:
I got root, and recovery but for some reason the fastboot method wher you extrtact the boot.img and use fastboot to load recovery doesn't work for ICS roms, they bootloop. I found a working Gingerbread rom and I like it. Only issue is i wanted an ICS app.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I remember, if you boot a recovery from fastboot (fastboot boot recovery.img), you wouldn't need to extract any boot image. When you boot a recovery from fastboot, you'll be able to write to the boot partition, so all you need to do is flash the rom and it should work. With that said, I've read a lot of times that flashing ics roms with s-on will cause bootloops. I've never seen that personally, I was s-off before ics came along.
Btw, which gapps should I flash for 2.3.4?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You probably know this but ill say it just incase. You only flash gapps on aosp roms. I think all the ics gapps say ics in the name, and most of the time gapps for any rom are linked in the same thread as the rom.
Look at your pm in a little bit. I'm gonna send you some stuff that'll help you figure out how to correctly flash a phone so that you can s-off without worry. I can't really post it here.
Edit... Sent
I have a good friend who recieved the OTA today for ICS on his Rezound, he isn't too keen on the rooting world but wanted all of the benefits so he had one of our mutual friends root the device for him, in doing so the improperly flashed a ROM and eventually had to re-flash his phone back to stock.
so now his S boot it ON and he has RELOCKED on his bootloader in pink. His device is however rooted, so anyways whenever he goes to update his phone to ICS it goes into the bootloader and cannot install the OTA.
Im sorry the vague details but I am trying to better understand his issue, I have a thunderbolt and am somewhat familiar with the htc devices, it also doesn't help that the person who originally rooted and unlocked his phone as well as relocked it is out of town at the moment so I am trying to do the best I can to assist him. Thanks for any help!
Jabberwocky237 said:
I have a good friend who recieved the OTA today for ICS on his Rezound, he isn't too keen on the rooting world but wanted all of the benefits so he had one of our mutual friends root the device for him, in doing so the improperly flashed a ROM and eventually had to re-flash his phone back to stock.
so now his S boot it ON and he has RELOCKED on his bootloader in pink. His device is however rooted, so anyways whenever he goes to update his phone to ICS it goes into the bootloader and cannot install the OTA.
Im sorry the vague details but I am trying to better understand his issue, I have a thunderbolt and am somewhat familiar with the htc devices, it also doesn't help that the person who originally rooted and unlocked his phone as well as relocked it is out of town at the moment so I am trying to do the best I can to assist him. Thanks for any help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Run the ICS RUU on it
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
instructions
do you have any instructions for flashing an ICS RUU?
Jabberwocky237 said:
do you have any instructions for flashing an ICS RUU?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Check my thread, you can download it, then rename it PH98IMG.zip, put it on the SD card not in any folders, and then boot into hboot, and accept the prompts, make sure it reboots 3 times
I did.
Followed the instructions in this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25165453&postcount=1
RUU, S-ON, check for update, and it updated.
Do you have to be on stock recovery to flash the ICS RUU or is ok to be on Amon Ra? As long as you are relocked it should work right?
*---(___() said:
Do you have to be on stock recovery to flash the ICS RUU or is ok to be on Amon Ra? As long as you are relocked it should work right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, it will replace your recovery with stock. It's all part of the RUU image.
*---(___() said:
Do you have to be on stock recovery to flash the ICS RUU or is ok to be on Amon Ra? As long as you are relocked it should work right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
YES...on stock recovery!!! There is a thread in the General SEction for all questions pertaining to OTA...its great...everything is consolidated including great FAQ's and some directions and links.
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
from scratch
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep
yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
topgun1953 said:
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
Sent from my HTC Rezound / ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk v2.2.7
I successfully installed Fresh Evo LTE 5.3.1 on my phone.
One of the suggestions is to update the Radio but I'm having a tough time doing that.
Here are my specs:
HBOOT 1.15.0000
S-ON
FreshEVO 5.3.1 ROM
I went to the link from the FreshEVO LTE 5.3.1 page to update the radio and have tried the following to install the Radio:
Attempt 1
Downloaded the Full Firmware zip file
Rename it "PJ75IMG"
Place it in the root of my SD card
Reboot into Bootloader
The PJ75IMG.zip file is detect but I only get 'Parsing PJ75IMG.zip' and then the Fastboot, Recovery, etc. options are displayed.
Attempt 2
From the same page where I downloaded the Full Firmware zip file, I also tried:
Download the Boot.img Only (signed) file
Flash it through the command prompt while in Fastboot ("fastboot flash boot boot.img")
Go into Bootloader
The PJ75IMG.zip is detected but still get the "Parsing..." message and nothing else happens.
Attempt 3
I have also tried going into my TWRP recovery and installing the Full Firmware zip AND the Radio 1.12.11.0809 Only.zip file but the installation fails.
Any pointers or a link to a video or a post would be much appreciated.
Thanks and sorry if this is a duplicate post but I really couldn't find any post that showed step-by-step process.
revert to stock and accept the ota, you can then fastboot recovery again and reflash. hboot 1.15 can not directly flash any firmware
edit: you may have to relock your hboot but ive seen users state they didnt. if you decide to relock the phone you will have to unlock the bootloader again to enable fastboot
om4 said:
The easiest way to update your firmware is to revert to stock and accept the ota, you can then fastboot recovery again and reflash
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have my stock backup anymore.
I've heard stuff about using RUU or something like that. Any quick guide on how to revert back to stock?
DO NOT UNROOT TO ACCEPT THE OTA OR RUU
I'd highly suggest just staying with your current radios and waiting for S-OFF before trying to update the radios. You can still flash the new ROMS in the meantime
You cannot update radios or firmware with Hboot 1.15 or 1.19------->Thats why it is suggested and not required
Rxpert said:
DO NOT UNROOT TO ACCEPT THE OTA OR RUU
I'd highly suggest just staying with your current radios and waiting for S-OFF before trying to update the radios. You can still flash the new ROMS in the meantime
You cannot update radios or firmware with Hboot 1.15 or 1.19------->Thats why it is suggested and not required
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the warning.
Since I'm pretty new to all this, I'll play it safe and stick to what I have.
sorry guys internet crapped out and i got stuck trying to post lol. rxpert has a point but with so much negativity about s-off never coming I'm starting to consider taking the OTA.
also you should always have a back up, its your go to solution when nothing else seems to be working since its a back up of when everything was new and working be it stock or custom
The new radios aren't worth losing the possibility, no matter how small
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
True...
om4 said:
sorry guys internet crapped out and i got stuck trying to post lol. rxpert has a point but with so much negativity about s-off never coming I'm starting to consider taking the OTA.
also you should always have a back up, its your go to solution when nothing else seems to be working since its a back up of when everything was new and working be it stock or custom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just so I am clear, I too am 1.5 so if have my orginal rom, (the one after I unlocked my bootloader) i can restore it and accept the OTA without having to relock my phone? (it wont brick):good: Or do i have some other steps to take, I read the don't panic instructions, but it only mentioned what the OTA does ( relocks with a new rom) but nothing about what happens if I don't relock before I accept the OTA, I know i seem a bit slow, 4g lte isn't as interesting as OG 4g without S-off.
RamesisX said:
Just so I am clear, I too am 1.5 so if have my orginal rom, (the one after I unlocked my bootloader) i can restore it and accept the OTA without having to relock my phone? (it wont brick):good: Or do i have some other steps to take, I read the don't panic instructions, but it only mentioned what the OTA does ( relocks with a new rom) but nothing about what happens if I don't relock before I accept the OTA, I know i seem a bit slow, 4g lte isn't as interesting as OG 4g without S-off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I havent yet done it myself but users have said they didnt need to relock, how ever as captain said there is no real need to update right now. If you decide to go ahead it would be a good idea to relock ( fastboot oem lock ) just to make sure, you can unlock afterwards. I neglect to mention this in my guide because most phones now are on 1.19 anyway and those still on 1.15 are holding out for soff
You will want to have the stock recovery to take the ota. Most people do this by relocking and running the ruu
Once again, I'm providing the info but I don't recommend it
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Rxpert said:
You will want to have the stock recovery to take the ota. Most people do this by relocking and running the ruu
Once again, I'm providing the info but I don't recommend it
Sent from my EVO using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am still researching how to relock without issues. I have my orginal rom but still leary about the entire relocking process. I was hoping i could restore to orginal sense rom, then take the OTA. otherwise I am looking for the simplest way to accompish the relocking task, but frankly nothing is easy when i comes to playing around with 4g lte, except it is rather difficult to brick. With my luck i might succeed in that LMAO
:good::laugh:
RamesisX said:
I am still researching how to relock without issues. I have my orginal rom but still leary about the entire relocking process. I was hoping i could restore to orginal sense rom, then take the OTA. otherwise I am looking for the simplest way to accompish the relocking task, but frankly nothing is easy when i comes to playing around with 4g lte, except it is rather difficult to brick. With my luck i might succeed in that LMAO
:good::laugh:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
there is no simpler method for relocking hboot, simply fastboot oem lock
om4 said:
there is no simpler method for relocking hboot, simply fastboot oem lock
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Used that and it worked great.
Evo 4G LTE
h-boot 1.19, s-on, HTCDev unlocked