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phone wasn't submerged, but enough water got to it to cause the water seal to turn pink. I blew dried it and dumped it in rice and what not.
I attempted to start it up the screen had no discolorations and it booted riight up but everything was force closing while trying to enter the phone from the lock screen.
so I rebooted and the phone stays at the galaxy s2 screen.
i attempted a nandroid (I already have a saved nandroid) but wanted to backup this one since i'm not sure it syncd some of the contacts.
when attempting the nandroid i got an error during the backup portion of the data.
Does that mean i should just recover from my original backup or is thier anything i should be doing?
thanks
Um i think you might have to get a replacement phone..
When i had a iPhone i dropped it in my pool so i let it dray out for 2 years and now it works.
Though i have a Galaxy S II cause i love android and the thing doesn't break plus i spilled water on it and it works fine with no effects.
Get some 90% alcohol. Remove covers, battery, Sim cards, etc.. submerge the phone in it for 3-5 minutes to displace any moisture still trapped inside. Take it out, let sit and evaporate for 10-15 minutes. Place inside your oven at 125° for 4-6 hrs. Replace battery and fire it up. If it still won't boot then return for warranty as your humi-dots will now be white
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Get some 90% alcohol. Remove covers, battery, Sim cards, etc.. submerge the phone in it for 3-5 minutes to displace any moisture still trapped inside. Take it out, let sit and evaporate for 10-15 minutes. Place inside your oven at 125° for 4-6 hrs. Replace battery and fire it up. If it still won't boot then return for warranty as your humi-dots will now be white
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No way.
If you're going to try this at least wait an hour before the oven. And be sure to preheat it.
I have baked Nokias back to life.
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I rework/repair circuit card assemblies for the largest defense contractor in world....
I use this process daily on boards worth more than your house....
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What's the water seal?
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What's the water seal?
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He means the humi-dots. Little white stickers that turn pink/red when a certain humidity level is reached..
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I rework/repair circuit card assemblies for the largest defense contractor in world....
I use this process daily on boards worth more than your house....
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I do too......well not really but I did stay at a holiday inn express last night.
Haha, I couldn't resist.....
do you work in Huntsville ala by any chance.
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Grand Prairie Texas.
Lockheed Martin Missles and Fire Control..
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Grand Prairie Texas.
Lockheed Martin Missles and Fire Control..
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Cool. I work for kratos out of Huntsville
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Nice.. That looks like fun. ;-)
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I rework/repair circuit card assemblies for the largest defense contractor in world....
I use this process daily on boards worth more than your house....
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Okay. Still at least preheat the oven so there isn't direct heat on the device which is much greater than 125.
And do the boards have a screen? Is that an issue?
Curious
Derrrrrr
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ok everything seems to have worked. looks like my data was corrupted and restoreing worked...my only issue is with my volume down button, I have to apply either a lot of pressure or tapp hard repeatedly to get the volume to go down. Also my humi stuff is still pink. as i didn't want to take the phone apart.
any suggestions for the volume button and the humi?
I will thank everyone for responding to this thread
thanks again
Any residual moisture still trapped inside the board layers will slowly develop copper dendrites and kill your phone. The only way to stop the process is to bake it out. This will also dry out your humi-dots and turn them white again. It may work for now but in a couple months the problems will get worse.
Just my $.02
Edit: Check out metallic electromigration phenomena. Exactly the reason for humi-dots and not honoring warranties on phones exposed to excessive moisture..
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Stevenrogers_420 said:
Any residual moisture still trapped inside the board layers will slowly develop copper dendrites and kill your phone. The only way to stop the process is to bake it out. This will also dry out your humi-dots and turn them white again. It may work for now but in a couple months the problems will get worse.
Just my $.02
Edit: Check out metallic electromigration phenomena. Exactly the reason for humi-dots and not honoring warranties on phones exposed to excessive moisture..
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i have to take the phone apart to bake it at 125? to make sure that is.
No , Remove your battery, Sim cards, sdcards and bake it without the back cover....
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No , Remove your battery, Sim cards, sdcards and bake it without the back cover....
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thx i will do that right now. and for aprox how long?
2-4 hrs should do it.
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curious how this worked out. My wife dropped hers in the toilet like...a week ago. we've been doing the rice thing....
if we did this, how do you put the phone in the oven? won't it melt? scren up or down? on a cookie sheet? pizza stone? suggestions?
It's booting up now, but it gets REALLY hot on the back of the phone, (volme rocker) side, toward the bottom if you pop the back off the phone and look there, it's just below the circle that's molded into the plastic. it'll booth and run for a minute tops and then just turn off. this alcohol idea is intriguing to me.
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curious how this worked out. My wife dropped hers in the toilet like...a week ago. we've been doing the rice thing....
if we did this, how do you put the phone in the oven? won't it melt? scren up or down? on a cookie sheet? pizza stone? suggestions?
It's booting up now, but it gets REALLY hot on the back of the phone, (volme rocker) side, toward the bottom if you pop the back off the phone and look there, it's just below the circle that's molded into the plastic. it'll booth and run for a minute tops and then just turn off. this alcohol idea is intriguing to me.
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I'm going on a limb here and say they were joking about the oven
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Has anyone experienced overheating with there phone after flashing a ROM? My phone heats up very hot while not connected to wall. Very strange. I am concerned that it will cause damage.
... Ok? What does it matter what's happening to your phone if we don't know what you've done to it?
Give us some details man! (seriously though, we need the details so someone can help you out)
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Has anyone experienced overheating with there phone after flashing a ROM? My phone heats up very hot while not connected to wall. Very strange. I am concerned that it will cause damage.
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I felt this issue early with my phone in a daily use. I sent to AT&T store, revise the phone and give me a new one battery. Supposed to be a factory fault.
Actually, if I install a Rom connected to a power cord, I fell the phone heating, but it's only temporary.
Personnaly, I am not work worry about it.
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Yes, I faced this 2-3 times on stock condition on the second day of purchase. I had to pull out the battery for some time to keep it cool as when ever tried to switch it off, the phone will reboot automatically on the next moment. Done few continuos factory resets solved the issue of heating up. Once I rooted it, the phone behaves properly.
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I'm having so much fine tying to figure out some of the wording in these posts. Thank u guys for making my day a little happier
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I'm having so much fine tying to figure out some of the wording in these posts. Thank u guys for making my day a little happier
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You're on like ever post telling people they're posting the wrong things. Its really annoying, whats really clogging up the forums is complainers. Just get over it.
It happened on many roms, many kernels and many different cpu settings, so details wont help you. Sorry.
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You're on like ever post telling people they're posting the wrong things. Its really annoying, whats really clogging up the forums is complainers. Just get over it.
It happened on many roms, many kernels and many different cpu settings, so details wont help you. Sorry.
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Fail post is fail... Wouldn't you say Phalanx?!
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Fail post is fail... Wouldn't you say Phalanx?!
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I'd say that...
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I'm having so much fine tying to figure out some of the wording in these posts. Thank u guys for making my day a little happier
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is the fail post considering we had to figure out his wording to realize he was trying to figure out others wording...
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Fail post is fail... Wouldn't you say Phalanx?!
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Well, that and I posted it a month ago...lol this guy must be stalking me. Plus I wasn't even trying to be mean at all geez.
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Oh look! An admirer!
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Hah, i just said that cus i thought i read something on another thread. I just hate when people are overly sensitive about stupid things it wastes so much time, and to make this post not a waste, i would like to let you all know..
I am still experiencing this issue everyday. Especially when I'm charging but sometimes randomly. Sometimes when i use the camera, definitely when i play graphically intensive games.
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Hah, i just said that cus i thought i read something on another thread. I just hate when people are overly sensitive about stupid things it wastes so much time, and to make this post not a waste, i would like to let you all know..
I am still experiencing this issue everyday. Especially when I'm charging but sometimes randomly. Sometimes when i use the camera, definitely when i play graphically intensive games.
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Its obviously defective then. Warranty exchange it
Yeah, i guess i should. Such a hassle though. I just feel like it might be my fault, doing something to it.
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Yeah, i guess i should. Such a hassle though. I just feel like it might be my fault, doing something to it.
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Naww. Unless you deliberately caused the issue it could be a hardware thing which totally isn't yer fault. See if they'll give u a replacement tell them the issue you are having and that you've already tried to troubleshoot it. And don't let them give u a damn slow rocket as a substitute lol its definitely not.
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Its not that bad, I'm just going to live it. It's gotten a bit better.
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You do know that over heating can lead to expedited hardware degradation right?
It gets super hot, then choose, then super hot then cools... Not a great thing to have going on regularly.
Personally, I would remove all personal files, return to stock, upgrade to stock ICS and then take it in and tell them you want a replacement. Don't take the sh¡trocket. A gs2, oneX, gs3 or even a note, maybe, but that's it.
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Define overheating. I know my phone can get really warm if I'm using a bunch of apps or things like Skype on 3G, especially the upper right portion of the back, near the cameras. If it gets too warm, I try to cool it just by holding my hand there covering all the parts that are getting hot (if the phone is warmer than your skin, your skin will cool it, simple physics), and when I start killing tasks after I'm done and let it rest for awhile, it'll cool down again. I wonder if my Otterbox Case exasperates the problem. But after hearing all the problems people are having with refurb units, I wouldn't trade my mostly perfectly working I777 for anything at this point.
As far as I'm concerned, if it's hot enough where it makes me think "holy sh¡t, my phone is freaking hot!", it's overheating. If it's warm not a big deal, that's gonna happen.
I've only had out overheat twice so far. The second time i don't know what happened but my phone had over 50% batt and when i went to pick it up 20 minutes later it was extremely hot to the touch and the battery was dead. Hasn't happened in over a month and I've had this phone for around 6 months now.
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My amaze headphone jack is acting up so I want to get a warranty on it. However, my water damage indicator is red. Not because I drop it water or submerg it in water. I take it into the sauna with my in the gym and I guess the vapors created a slight moisture around the surfaces of my amaze underneath the battery, thus causing the indicator to turn red. You guys think T-Mobile still warranty it for me?
Very very doubtful.
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put a drop of bleach on red spot...it will turn white....
i read it somewhere
Confirmed. Yea put bleach will do.
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put a drop of bleach on red spot...it will turn white....
i read it somewhere
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Great idea in theory, but there's also another water damage indicator inside the phone. It's likely that the inside indicator is also red.
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Yes there is a second indicator, but it may or may not have changed as well, only you can now this. There's a video on YouTube of a guy who got his wet so he did a screen destruction test as well as disassembly. In the video he shows how you can not break the "void", stickers but still access the I interior water dot. I can't get the link right now but I will try to find it later. But search for screen test for HTC amaze. He's at a small table and it's fairly long. Might help.
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That would be great
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My mom dropped the phone into the sink, idk how that happened, but I let dried for about 2 days. Everything works, except the mobile network. The EMEI is missing, when I press *#06#, it displays null/null.
I have a back up of the efs folder when I use Unlock Galaxy S app to unlock my phone.
Here are all the methods that I have tried:
1. Use Unlock Galaxy S app to restore the back up file
2. Ktool.
3. Return to stock twice,
4. Follow the guide from vaskodo in international S2 forum,
5. Thread from dickie2007.
6.S II repair app didn't work.
Nothing happened. Still null\null.
I also have anither back up file efs.autobackup.img and efsdev-mmcblk0p1.img.gz. What do i do with them?
Is there any other way to fix it?
Can I back up the efs folder on my friend S2, and then inject it into my mom phone? Will that work?
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My mom dropped the phone into the sink, idk how that happened, but I let dried for about 2 days. Everything works, except the mobile network. The EMEI is missing, when I press *#06#, it displays null/null.
I have a back up of the efs folder when I use Unlock Galaxy S app to unlock my phone.
Here are all the methods that I have tried:
1. Use Unlock Galaxy S app to restore the back up file
2. Ktool.
3. Return to stock twice,
4. Follow the guide from vaskodo in international S2 forum,
5. Thread from dickie2007.
Nothing happened. Still null\null.
Is there any other way to fix it?
Can I back up the efs folder on my friend S2, and then inject it into my mom phone? Will that work?
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Heres what i would do but i suggest waiting for another person to comment.
It seems that maybe water or soap or whatever was in the sink left water marks on some of the internal components.
Unscrew as much as you can of the phone and submerge it in rubbing alcohol. Take out let it sit for a day. Put in bag of rice for another day. I recommend getting a new battery though.
Otherwise wait for someone with more exp . To provide advice.
If you do the above... MAKE SURE THE ALCOHOL IS AS CLOSE TO 100% AS POSSIBLE!!!
The higher the percentage, there higher concentration... or, less water.
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I had the same problem with a previous SII. The SII fix by helroz helped get the IMEI back, but ultimately the water caused too much corrosion on the board. It was cheaper to buy a new SII.
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I tried SIi repair to. But didnt work
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If you do the above... MAKE SURE THE ALCOHOL IS AS CLOSE TO 100% AS POSSIBLE!!!
The higher the percentage, there higher concentration... or, less water.
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Companies can't generally produce more than 95% ABV. To get that last 5% is very costly hence, not worth it
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Sorry to say it is most likely toast at this point.
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Companies can't generally produce more than 95% ABV. To get that last 5% is very costly hence, not worth it
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As was stated, as close as possible. Where I'm at, it's hard to find 90% much less 95%.
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As was stated, as close as possible. Where I'm at, it's hard to find 90% much less 95%.
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Just didn't want the op to go crazy lookin for it lol. If you're 21 op, go buy Everclear (95%) by volume plus a good night . If That's not an option your only other choice is 90% Isopropyl Alcohol (if you can find it)
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Can somebody explain what submerging the parts in alcohol accomplishes? I mean, we're talking the board, lcd and everything else too right?
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Can somebody explain what submerging the parts in alcohol accomplishes? I mean, we're talking the board, lcd and everything else too right?
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I want to know what does it do too?
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I want to know what does it do too?
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Alcohol displaces the water to stop(prevent ) electromagnetic migration. Pretty sure you could dip your phone in oil and achieve the same result.... but then you would have to displace the oil. Alcohol evaporates quickly.
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Kinda like what it does in your body... which is why you get drunk and get dehydrated. Obviously, don't drink the rubbing alcohol unless you want to get extremely sick.
Hijack: ever seen the vid of the computer running in a tank of oil?! Instead of water cooling, they built a computer inside a fish tank (sealed plexiglass) and filed it with some oil... Not only did it never overheat (amazing heat dissipation) but the parts ran smooth as they were... well oiled! (Less friction so it actually would make the parts last longer and run better)
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Kinda like what it does in your body... which is why you get drunk and get dehydrated. Obviously, don't drink the rubbing alcohol unless you want to get extremely sick.
Hijack: ever seen the vid of the computer running in a tank of oil?! Instead of water cooling, they built a computer inside a fish tank (sealed plexiglass) and filed it with some oil... Not only did it never overheat (amazing heat dissipation) but the parts ran smooth as they were... well oiled! (Less friction so it actually would make the parts last longer and run better)
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After this comment. For the love of God people, don't put your phone in oil! lol
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So is there any other way to fix this?
I heard Samsung Tool z3x can inject EMEI, I think I have to pay too use it but I am not sure that it will work.
Can I restore the efs back up from another S2 phone?
Yes a Z3 box could rebuild the EFS and get back the IMEI (not EMEI).
Copying a back up from another phone will get you the generic IMEI at best.
Since it has been submerged in water you may want to think about the possible damage that was caused and the future problems that may come up. A replacement phone might be a good idea.
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Yes a Z3 box could rebuild the EFS and get back the IMEI (not EMEI).
Copying a back up from another phone will get you the generic IMEI at best.
Since it has been submerged in water you may want to think about the possible damage that was caused and the future problems that may come up. A replacement phone might be a good idea.
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Thanks, so my S2 probably become a Galaxy Player now.
So recently I noticed my screen has a blue spot when displaying white. It's slightly notice to be annoying. It's not visible with blacks and less so with other colors. What to do with warranty as a last resort? Will warranty claim actually fix the phone instead of replacing it?
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Is a case applying pressure to the back of the phone. That's usually where the blue dot comes from. Something is applying pressure to the screen.
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A textbook case of phone squeezing while watching pron on the dna's fabulous HD.
Is blue just in one spot on the screen?
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A textbook case of phone squeezing while watching pron on the dna's fabulous HD.
Is blue just in one spot on the screen?
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Its an isolated spot at the top of the keyboard it is about 2-3 mm wide. I will try taking it out of the case and see if it goes away.
Sometimes cases can put pressure on the screen and cause blue dots to appear.
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Sometimes cases can put pressure on the screen and cause blue dots to appear.
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I took it out of the case for at least 14 hours and nothing changed. I am okay with it as long as it doesnt spread. Really don't want to warranty it and get a locked DNA after running CM
I would kee it too, having a locked bootloader will be more irritating.
I've got a faint blue dot also and no case.
sent via electromagnetic radiation.
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I've got a faint blue dot also and no case.
sent via electromagnetic radiation.
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It happens to a lot of DNAs.. Idk something about internals pressing against screen.
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yep, if you push on the back between the htc logo and the other logos, you can see the ripple effect. there's a soft spot on there.
my first DNA had the issue, and i only used a TPU case. i'm thinking it was from having it in my pocket, screen facing out and crouching and sitting down and stuff. it would probably put pressure against the back and cause that ripple and that eventually led to a constant blue haze. i returned it right after noticing it..was very sad. lol
So this is a common issue then? I just noticed it on mine today. Will they fix it under warranty? I've only had the phone for about 2 weeks.
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So this is a common issue then? I just noticed it on mine today. Will they fix it under warranty? I've only had the phone for about 2 weeks.
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Did you guys with the blue dot send the phone out to get Jtagged?
If so, the blue dot is an overtightened screw (Did it to mine when I JTagged it... Pop the back off and loosen the screw a little bit... It might not ever go away, but it lessens he effect... Also lessens the possibility of the screen cracking from it)