well a couple of weeks ago i asked this question and i was comparing things between some devices and thank you guys you helped me figure a lot of things out and i finally decided that iam getting the atrix 4g no doubt it's an awesome super powerful phone but how bad is it to buy an outdated phone " almost 1.5 years old " ? and i also wanted to know if there is any chance that Motorola will abandon releasing the ics update ? !! beacuse as bad as i wanna wait for the update to come out before i buy the device i can't soo if you told me that it's 100% sure the the update is coming out iam buying the phone next week ... and some thing ealse i wanted to clarify i read on the motorolla website that the update coming in Q3 2012 is just for at&t and i live in egypt so obviously there is no at&t here and from what i understand i won't be able to update OTA and i just wanted to know what will be the availlable options for me then to update rather than waitng for the international update which has no specified date yet ? !!! and something more does the Atrix 4g has any common hardware problems as i'll be bootloader unlocking my phone maybe 2 weeks after i get it ( i mean because of voiding the warranty and this stuff ) ?
and thank i guys again in advance u rock :good:
You need to search around a bit more next time. These answers are relatively easy to find:
-I think the general consensus is that people here are happy with their phones but if you can spend more to get a phone with better specs, not potentially have a problem buying an Atrix with a locked bootloader, not have to deal with a company like nvidia, etc. then you might want to look elsewhere.
-There is NO proof that Motorola WON'T release ICS. There are still several other phones that fall in the Q3 schedule that also haven't been updated and we're still in Q3. Even if there's a small chance it won't be released, there's still the chance that drivers from other phones can be used to stabilize an Atrix rom.
-If you're already talking about unlocking the bootloader then you should know by now that OTA is completely irrelevant. You can flash the update as you would any other rom.
-Digitizer and wifi/bluetooth issues seem to be the biggest hardware problems. Unlocking a bootloader on any phone will void the warranty, but it's been the experience of many people that Motorola will still repair phones under warranty anyway. Every you decision you make, from buying a phone to crossing the street, is at your own risk.
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You need to search around a bit more next time. These answers are relatively easy to find:
-I think the general consensus is that people here are happy with their phones but if you can spend more to get a phone with better specs, not potentially have a problem buying an Atrix with a locked bootloader, not have to deal with a company like nvidia, etc. then you might want to look elsewhere.
-There is NO proof that Motorola WON'T release ICS. There are still several other phones that fall in the Q3 schedule that also haven't been updated and we're still in Q3. Even if there's a small chance it won't be released, there's still the chance that drivers from other phones can be used to stabilize an Atrix rom.
-If you're already talking about unlocking the bootloader then you should know by now that OTA is completely irrelevant. You can flash the update as you would any other rom.
-Digitizer and wifi/bluetooth issues seem to be the biggest hardware problems. Unlocking a bootloader on any phone will void the warranty, but it's been the experience of many people that Motorola will still repair phones under warranty anyway. Every you decision you make, from buying a phone to crossing the street, is at your own risk.
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Firstly thank you and i agree with you "You need to search around a bit more next time. These answers are relatively easy to find"
you are right most of my previous questions could be solved be googling it but the reason why i ask these questions is because i want an experience based answers because most of the times there is an indirect ways to do things .
- can u please explain what do u mean by " u don't have to deal with a company like nvidia " does nvidia suck this much ? !! and excuse me if i asked u to tell me what is the things that u hate the most or u see this phone lacks ? " hardware,software,community stuff,even support" and thank you so much :good:
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well a couple of weeks ago i asked this question and i was comparing things between some devices and thank you guys you helped me figure a lot of things out and i finally decided that iam getting the atrix 4g no doubt it's an awesome super powerful phone but how bad is it to buy an outdated phone " almost 1.5 years old " ? and i also wanted to know if there is any chance that Motorola will abandon releasing the ics update ? !! beacuse as bad as i wanna wait for the update to come out before i buy the device i can't soo if you told me that it's 100% sure the the update is coming out iam buying the phone next week ... and some thing ealse i wanted to clarify i read on the motorolla website that the update coming in Q3 2012 is just for at&t and i live in egypt so obviously there is no at&t here and from what i understand i won't be able to update OTA and i just wanted to know what will be the availlable options for me then to update rather than waitng for the international update which has no specified date yet ? !!! and something more does the Atrix 4g has any common hardware problems as i'll be bootloader unlocking my phone maybe 2 weeks after i get it ( i mean because of voiding the warranty and this stuff ) ?
and thank i guys again in advance u rock :good:
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If you still not buy the Atrix yet, then you still have a good choice to buy Galaxy Nexus, S2, Notes for your work smoothly.
ROM update is the most important part of Android OS. Try to google more and you can find out the real fact behind smile face of people here.:silly:
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- can u please explain what do u mean by " u don't have to deal with a company like nvidia " does nvidia suck this much ? !! and excuse me if i asked u to tell me what is the things that u hate the most or u see this phone lacks ? " hardware,software,community stuff,even support" and thank you so much :good:
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The common belief is that nvidia is the one holding up the drivers for Moto to use for ICS.
You'll probably find a few other threads (in fact, there's another one right on this page) where people will compare phone XYZ to the Atrix so you can see the benefits and disadvantages. It all depends on which specific phone you're comparing, as well as what exactly you need from your phone. Like anything else, this phone has several things few or no other phones have but also might fall short (screen, processor speed, etc.) in others. It's up to you to figure out what you need.
The good thing is that this community is surprisingly active, even for a phone that came out last year.
I'm not gonna quote all of that, but once AT&T releases ICS then EVERYONE will have it on CM9/10.
We only want ICS for the drivers to put into CM, and other custom ROMS. Trust me nobody here wants stock bloat...
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I'm not gonna quote all of that, but once AT&T releases ICS then EVERYONE will have it on CM9/10.
We only want ICS for the drivers to put into CM, and other custom ROMS. Trust me nobody here wants stock bloat...
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I have Epinter's unofficial CM10 running on my Atrix 4G, the only reason I'm still anticipating the official ICS update is for the driver developers can use to get hardware acceleration working on CM10 :crying:
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Just curious..Where have all the Devs gone? The first few days the dev section seemed to be on fire! I haven't seen anything new pop up in a bit. I'm sure I'm not the only one who can be asking this question. I know they do this as hobby/passion and for free which is why I'm simply asking for "proof of life".lol.
Anyone know of anything in the works? Giving me even more of a reason to check the forums 100 times a day like a true flashaholic ;-)
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
what do you mean, it is doing just fine.....they have been plugging away at getting CWM working....which without leaves most users at a disadvantage cuz some people just seem to have issues with oden and ADB. now that they have an alpha of CWM roms will be coming next. and i also think that since ICS is coming up the future that devs are waiting for that. why keep dropping ginger roms? and i see them working on ICS roms as well. we have a stable ginger rom in TPC's/da g's kernel mix. i still see the same devs working and plugging away and we have more now than we did 2 weeks ago...
they are working, and like you said.... they are working on there own time and for FREE.
we should all be greatful. when they stop working be worried.
I think ICS is in the works. The DEV just wants to clean up some of the other issues he is working on. Yes this is vague but I do not want to over step my bounds.
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I too am eager however the one and only rom we have is stable. I can wait for ICS as long as it takes. We have an overclock kernel as well. With other devices I have seen dozens of roms and dozens of kernels with only one or two having full functionality. We have been very fortunate. With that said there seems to be less than the usual amount of Development on this device but remember this is brand new. It takes a while... with the streak we only had a few devs and even then at one point really only one dev. Give it a few weeks. If not do like I am and imerse yourself in reading on how to make roms. I develop android apps and have a few in the market, now that does not qualify me to make roms it does mean that I have the ability to learn like many others could do if they were motivated to do so.
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Take a walk outside for some fresh air.
Messages like these will not motivate any dev in getting 'cracking'.
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I THOUGHT I made it clear that was not my intention at all. Thanks for the other responses they actually answered my question. There are many people like me who are fairly new to this. I am coming from the inspire and when I first got it there were tons of roms available, but I got it 4 months after launch. Then I realized I could have been using the desire HD roms. Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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Can the international rooms be flashed using Odin?
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NO. You will brick your device if you try to flash international ROMs, as they have a different processor as well as other various differences that essentially make them completely different beasts with the same form factor.
Reading a bit more would inform you as to why development is slow right now and why you can't flash international ROMs.
To give you the sparknotes version of what's going on however:
As others have said, we only have an alpha version of CWM, so devs are working on getting that polished up.
Second, devs are working on a way to get around the flash counter, so that you do not have any problems with a warranty exchange in the future. If you don't care about your warranty or want to risk a return with a triggered flash counter, go for it. Other phones have had their flash counter bypassed, so I'm sure our talented devs will come up with a solution fairly soon.
Also, as others have mentioned, we have one stable ROM already, and a great kernel, so that should solve most problems with using the stock ROM until more development occurs.
Lastly, with ICS on the horizon, there is not really a good reason to produce a ton of GB ROMs, so be patient and use the stable one we have already until ICS drops in a few months or so.
The longest anybody has had this device is 11 days right now, and we already have a stable ROM and OC/UV capable kernel. In my opinion, that's a damn good start, and I have a feeling that development will eventually be huge on this device. Give it a few months. =]
So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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So funny how everyone keeps talking about ICS like its coming in two weeks! Btw the release date for that that everyone think is coming soon is for the International version!
Big Dogg Infuse I997 ZeusB5 ICS!
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
The phone been out a week. Lmao, wow
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Nobody here referenced the international release of official ICS. I think most people here know that it doesn't mean anything for our devices. However, it will be here eventually, and devs are most likely already working on porting over an unofficial version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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There are various dev versions of ICS cooking as we speak; and, I also wouldn't be surprised if Samsung surprises everyone with an official version on/around March 15th... including a US version.
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I feel the same way. ATT and Samsung know they need to do something to pull ahead of android competition; they've done it with quality android hardware, now they need to do it with consumer peace-of-mind on the software upgrade front. Nowhere has Samsung said that ICS for "international note" is coming in Q1 2012. They merely say it is coming to the "note", period. I think ICS will come for the US variant sooner rather than later. I know when I got my Atrix, people whined and hollared that it would never get GB. ATT delivered GB very soon, to the scorn of the red-faced naysayers. I know the Atrix was Motorola, but its still an example of a carrier pushing a fast update. Samsung is an excellent company, especially with their Android devices. If any company leads the way for quicker full-product-line android upgrades, I'd expect it to be them.
Pure speculation and I'm maybe totally wrong, but I think the US Note will see ICS very soon.
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thank you guys and gals
This is the downside of getting a newly launched device. I went thru it with the asus transformer 101. That was a little painful in the beginning, but the brilliant minds solved all the problems. It took about a month to really get rolling.
I picked up the Infuse about a year after launch and it was humming within 3 days cause all the hard work had already been done by those great minds in their forum.
The advantage with the Note is it's really great as a stock phone out of the box.
The smart guys and gals here want to advance just as much as we want them to succeed in making this Note the best it can be. So, Patience, and let them work. When they have something good they will be shouting it as loud as can be.
Support and good words go along way. We appreciate you guys more than you know! Thank you for all your efforts, and time away from your work, family, friends and hobbies to devote to this great piece of hardware.
this forum has gotten more action in the past week then the atrix did in the first 2 months. lol.
Damn you guys that are coming from other forums are spoiled!!! I remember waiting foreeevveer just to flash something on the atrix.. and then when CWM came out i was like "wtf is a CWM?" (atrix was my first android).
Stock rom on this phone is doing pretty well for me .Froze all the bloat, not using touchwiz -- and its like i dont even have anything from Samsung on there (besides the SPEN).
I can do without a rom until ICS comes out.. and that is going to do wonders for this device. ICS on the ATRIX is like a breath of fresh air, cant wait to see it on this beast.
Your right, I guess I was kinda spoiled coming from the inspire/desire HD forums. I never realized how long it takes to get things up and running. I apologize if I came off as being impatient. Again that was NOT my intention. I love these forums and appreciate the Devs hard work immensely.
On another "Note" (I know,I know, sorry) I was at best buy mobile last night where I know a couple sales reps and they mentioned that they hoped someone ported over Ics soon as the Samsung rep they spoke with at their store said Ics won't be coming our way for a good while. I myself take that with a grain of salt though. Do you think that a Samsung sales rep would even really know the Ics release schedule?
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Its easy to see all the new users. It takes time. Plus why worry about a flash counter? Do any of you know of anyone or heard of anyone having issues with that? I havent and flashed my skyrocket alot before i turned it in. Seems to just be a way to make n00bs worry. And its working
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I guess I never looked too far into the flash counter. I had read a few threads about it, and people seemed to be convinced that AT&T would get fussy about it. I suppose it doesn't really mean much if you end up putting your phone back to stock and unrooting before returning it. If it wasn't for rooting and such, developers couldn't make apps and flash stuff to the phone, so I guess it doesn't really make sense at all why they would care if the device has been flashed with something else, especially if it is returned to a stock state for a return.
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Agree so hard
Can't figure out all the freaking out over the flash counters at all. There are no known complications with this. Plus, are you just going to avoid all customization for good? Why not just get started now??
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I mean I'm at least waiting for more than one ROM, when there are a good supply of awesome ROMs I'll jump right in.
Lol. It's not like all the Dev's aren't answering posts in their respective forums...
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Hi guys im planning to buy this phone, but does it has an unlocked bootloader? How good is developer support for this cellphone?
the bootloader is locked and with that you cannot load a fully working custom kernel thus there are not many dev involved.
Hope something improves in future...
Until then I statisfy my rom flashing sickness with my HD2
Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I would buy this. The Xperia play was not tat great in my opinion.
arturodelac said:
Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I recommend you the razr. Its a good phone overall especially the build quality.
No match with the play unless you are a heavy gamer.
I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
Of course we can use custom kernels. Just a short time remaining until the new kernel source will be released, then kexec will work with both cores and fully working custom roms will become available.
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I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
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Kholk is apparently waiting for th 3.0.8 source from motorola in order to get the second cpu working
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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So your asking about root on a phone you may own 11 months from now?
lol right now i understand why people get so frustrated on here why u askin questions about it if u aint getting it until next year lol
surely this had to be a Typo...{Handing you the Benefit of the doubt}
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Lay off the kid!!!! Yes it has full root now.
How to root and yes its very easy
Rooted!
Thanks, that was easy. I just wanted wifi tether, so this is perfect
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Ok guys, I have read other threads on this phone and I take it that its either been completely rooted already or is about to be rooted. Currently I have an Epic with Peoples Rom2.2 on it and shadow kernel, I'm hoping that the root process for this phone is as easy or easier than my Epic because next April I update and I'm thinking about the 4G LTE. I did find a couple of videos on it but so far nothing from ACS or qbking77. But I am still looking
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Yes it has root. However, we do not currently have S-Off for the phones. Hopefully that will come pretty soon. And I am optimistic that it will be available by next April.
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lol right now i understand why people get so frustrated on here why u askin questions about it if u aint getting it until next year lol
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Actually, I get frustrated by people who have no clue what punctuation is and completely butcher the English language while simultaneously flaming another user about his/her ridiculousness. He may not be getting the phone for almost a year but his post, unlike yours, is still a valid one.
Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Youre welcome Dont forget to hit the "Thanks" button at the bottom of our posts.
oops.....oh yea ........ my bad I totally forgot (again) doing it now
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Yes guys I said I'm thinking about it, only reason is Sprint won't let me upgrade till April of 2013.
the reason I was thinking about it is I know the EVO 3d is rooted cause a friend of mine has one it was a tossup since I prefer a rooted device, but since the 4GLTE is rooted my decision is made
Thanks shook187, for telling me its rooted, and thanks Dannydeez for the link, I'll book mark that for future reference.
I'm 49 years old so I'm not exactly the best at pones and computers although I can hold my own sometimes. I'm way better at fixing cars.
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Don't mind the people who want to flame others. Some people just can't help flaming others for something they do not understand or agree with.
If you have a question just type it in the search bar at the top of the forum to see if someone else has already asked, and subsequently received an answer. If you don't find anything there that fits your specific situation then don't be afraid to start a new thread. If you do find an answer that works for you, even if it is within someone else's thread, then be sure to hit the thanks button at the bottom of that person's post.
Now THAT feature of the search bar I didn't know, but being on an Epic currently I haven't had to use that since Uber taught me how to root an epic LOL.
I watched the root videos on the HTC and apparently I won't be needing odin anymore when I upgrade, but since I don't have one yet I do have to ask, at all stock is that thing as good as what I read it is? I know the main reason I root is to have control of my phone, and add and remove junk apps and Sprint bloat ware that runs down the battery.
Also around here the only place that has 34g is a one block section in one part of the city and I think the courthouse has 4g, dunno I can't legally use a phone in there LOL. So after I root I'll be asking you guys what rom is best, I knwo better than to ask now cause somebody is currently making one that isn't out yet.
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Now THAT feature of the search bar I didn't know, but being on an Epic currently I haven't had to use that since Uber taught me how to root an epic LOL.
I watched the root videos on the HTC and apparently I won't be needing odin anymore when I upgrade, but since I don't have one yet I do have to ask, at all stock is that thing as good as what I read it is? I know the main reason I root is to have control of my phone, and add and remove junk apps and Sprint bloat ware that runs down the battery.
Also around here the only place that has 34g is a one block section in one part of the city and I think the courthouse has 4g, dunno I can't legally use a phone in there LOL. So after I root I'll be asking you guys what rom is best, I knwo better than to ask now cause somebody is currently making one that isn't out yet.
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By the time you have an upgrade there will be a better phone out I'm sure. But if you want a sweet phone with a ton of development on it, this will be the phone to get once you upgrade. My suggestion is to follow root instructions word for word when you do it, that way you don't mess up your phone. Good luck...in the future. Lol
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Thats what I hate about this world, At first I got the Samsung Moment, well when I got that there were 5 different kernels and so many roms I couldn't count them all LOL, So I FINALLY upgrade to an Epic, the first thing I have trouble with is deciding which Kernel I want to use and what rom will go best with it LOL.
When I upgrade I hope this one is still being produced cause by then you guys will probably have windows Vista ported over to it, and I have gotten used to having a variety of stuff to choose from to put on my phone
I would just go with whatever phone is newest then... not what's out right now. For all you know the next galaxy phone will be out. I know for sure the next nexus devices will be out and they will be better than this phone because they will be newer.
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Not necessarily I have YET to have a Samsung that works right without being rooted, Maybe its just me, but something just doesn't seem right with Samsung phones.
wolfen1086 said:
Not necessarily I have YET to have a Samsung that works right without being rooted, Maybe its just me, but something just doesn't seem right with Samsung phones.
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Um, the nexus is not running toichwiz. It runs stock android. Will have faster upgrades and will work fine unrooted. My nexus right now would work fine unrooted but I don't like how stock looks. That's why I'm a themer . Trust me, the next nexus will be your phone if you don't like Samsung touchwiz. It will be your best bet of an upgrade. IMO however its your money and your choice I just thought I'd help you make the smarter decision.
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Really a Nexus works? THAT I( never knew, as for touchwiz....not me I'm more a Go launcher guy, I like the stock Gingerbread look , but Emotionless beast is pretty cool too. But my wife and youngest both have evo3d's and even unrooted those work as fast as my epic rooted.
wolfen1086 said:
Really a Nexus works? THAT I( never knew, as for touchwiz....not me I'm more a Go launcher guy, I like the stock Gingerbread look , but Emotionless beast is pretty cool too. But my wife and youngest both have evo3d's and even unrooted those work as fast as my epic rooted.
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LOL, you know that GO launcher works like CIQ right? It collects way more data than it needs to. Also stock android 4.0.4 is just as nice and sleek as stock android 2.3.7 like on older nexus devices. Its the same deal just upgraded. Yeah evo3d's are a disgrace... IMO but some people liked them. Like i said if you looking for a great stock non bloated phone right out of the box a nexus device is for you. There has been word that nexus's next year might be manufactored by multiple companies and not just Samsung. So if you really need an HTC this will be the best of both worlds. Im just saying, dont make your decision so soon especially since this phone will be old by the time your upgrade comes....
I have a great deal on a Toshiba AT300 at hand, brand new at just above half the retail price, but the internet told me it cannot be rootet yet . It's not a bit problem right now, but at some point it will be. One awesome thing to do with 1 gb RAM and a quadcore CPU is a chrooted Linux installation. Also, i don't want a device thats going to be obsolete because the community can't keep it updated and the company that build it in the first place rather wants to sell me a new one instead of providing upgrades for existing products.
So what are the odds that it will still be locked down in a year or so? What about other devices with locked bootloaders and similar market share, are they eventually broken, or should i just buy a more "mainstream" tablet with more active developers?
(Also, is this the right sub-forum to ask this qurestion?)
Anyone?
fafler said:
Anyone?
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Anyone?
would be nice for someone to take it on in here and forum started for the AT300
finally installing the JB update now
As this device has a limited audience I would not hold out hope. Many things will come into play here. The OEM will only update it has long as they HAVE to. You will not fund many if any custom ROMs for is here as it is not a great developer device due to the issue stated above.
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zelendel said:
As this device has a limited audience I would not hold out hope. Many things will come into play here. The OEM will only update it has long as they HAVE to. You will not fund many if any custom ROMs for is here as it is not a great developer device due to the issue stated above.
Batcom2
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Hello,
Any update on rooting the AT300?
Thanks
4 years have passed, any news regarding the root for this device?
So i just got this new phone and so far its great. I used to have s vibrant running ics passion ( sadly stolen :\) so i know what i can do and cant do with roms. But i came on to this and found out there are no roms for this phone. Why is that?
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mksin11 said:
So i just got this new phone and theres just to Much useless stuff i don't use on it. I used to have s vibrant running ics passion ( sadly stolen :\) so i know what i can do and cant do with roms. But i came on to this and found out there are no roms for this phone. Why is that?
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Lolz. You cant complain on XDA, after buying a phone without browsing the same phone in XDA. Similary these days new companies are formed only after suitable website name (www.xyz.com) is found.
Anyways this phone is new, only few months, and you need to keep some patience. There are really NO ROM/KERNEL DEVELOPERS HERE at the moment and the main reason is that, the phone have Locked Bootloader and some inbuilt restrictions and no good support from LG. No sources of Kernel is yet shared.
The good news is they (LG) have informed that they will provide unlocked version of Jelly Bean in next few months.:fingers-crossed:so everyone here have fingers crossed and literally doing nothing. May be after JB release more REAL developers will buy this phone and there will be too much of crowd in this forum too.
IMHO: If some strong developers from Optimus 2X forums, would buy this phone and come here, this phone will fly.They made roms and kernels inspite of Locked Bootloader by using some unique bypassing methods.
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Lolz. You cant complain on XDA, after buying a phone without browsing the same phone in XDA. Similary these days new companies are formed only after suitable website name (www.xyz.com) is found.
Anyways this phone is new, only few months, and you need to keep some patience. There are really NO ROM/KERNEL DEVELOPERS HERE at the moment and the main reason is that, the phone have Locked Bootloader and some inbuilt restrictions and no good support from LG.
The good news is they (LG) have informed that they will provide unlocked version of Jelly Bean in next few months.:fingers-crossed:so everyone here have fingers crossed and literally doing nothing.
IMHO: If some strong developers from Optimus 2X forums, would buy this phone and come here, this phone will fly.
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Thats great. I didnt know the process and how it is to start roms sorry :\. Ive only had a sidekick n vibrant and i would just pop on here for roms (cause i didnt get them when they were freshly new). Didnt mean to complain, was just wondering! Thank you though!
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mksin11 said:
Thats great. I didnt know the process and how it is to start roms sorry :\. Ive only had a sidekick n vibrant and i would just pop on here for roms (cause i didnt get them when they were freshly new). Didnt mean to complain, was just wondering! Thank you though!
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Dont lose hope. Patience is the key. This phone is enough strong to do magic. But Magicians are yet to come and perform.
IMHO: If some strong developers from Optimus 2X forums, would buy this phone and come here, this phone will fly. They made roms and kernels inspite of Locked Bootloader by using some unique bypassing methods.
Patience
For guideline, if you want a phone with a lot of android development (custom ROM), look here on XDA which phone have most vibrant community. Generally, Nexus phone and very popular phone (like SG SIII) have a lot of custom ROM.
L9 can be a popular phone though (maybe already). Big IPS screen, 1 GHz dual core with 1 GB RAM with affordable price. Now it depends on LG whether to embrace this community or not (my newbie understanding, it can be very difficult to have firmware/driver for camera, for example).
raymonthly said:
For guideline, if you want a phone with a lot of android development (custom ROM), look here on XDA which phone have most vibrant community. Generally, Nexus phone and very popular phone (like SG SIII) have a lot of custom ROM.
L9 can be a popular phone though (maybe already). Big IPS screen, 1 GHz dual core with 1 GB RAM with affordable price. Now it depends on LG whether to embrace this community or not (my newbie understanding, it can be very difficult to have firmware/driver for camera, for example).
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When we suggest someone any other phone, for ROM issue, it should be in similar category and price range. Well, you know, if one can "easily afford" SGS3 would not even look at L9.
But yes, if LG want people to buy this phone then, they must know what people want.
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When we suggest someone any other phone, for ROM issue, it should be in similar category and price range. Well, you know, if one can "easily afford" SGS3 would not even look at L9.
But yes, if LG want people to buy this phone then, they must know what people want.
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Stock ROM is enough for me, just give me the ability to root and JB update (dare I hope 4.2? )
For comparison, Samsung went straight to JB 4.1 from GB 2.3 with its S Advance.
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