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hey i'm new just curious what rooting means? and what it lets you do?
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hey i'm new just curious what rooting means? and what it lets you do?
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Root Android the Easy Way
Add advanced features, customize the interface, and boost your handset's performance by rooting your Android phone.
By Robert Strohmeyer
Sep 14, 2010 5:00 PM
Google's Android operating system is riding a wave of popularity that has rapidly eclipsed Apple's iOS, and by the end of 2010 it's expected to overtake RIM's BlackBerry as America's leading smartphone platform. However, despite the relative openness and flexibility of the OS, your Android phone still isn't as powerful and customizable as it could be. To unlock all of your phone's potential, you'll need to root it.
WARNING: Rooting--adding superuser capabilities to your phone by altering its system permissions--is an advanced technique that the inexperienced or faint of heart should NEVER ATTEMPT. It's hacking, folks, and if done improperly it can destroy your phone. Do not follow any of the instructions in this guide or on any of the linked sites unless you are comfortable with the very real risk of turning your phone into an expensive brick. As of this writing, rooting is not supported by any carrier or manufacturer, and will most likely void your phone's warranty. In short: This stuff is for big kids only. No whining if things don't go your way.
Why Root?
With that very real and important caveat out of the way, there are a few really good reasons to root your Android phone. The simplest reason is that rooting your handset allows for some cool features that probably ought to be enabled in Android by default, such as on-the-fly screen capture, tethering capabilities (even on phones whose carriers don't allow it), and advanced firewall apps.
Android Superuser Request
Rooting Android gives you superuser access to your phone's OS, letting you do more than you'd be able to with a stock Android installation.
Rooting also lets you install custom ROMs that eliminate the annoying crapware many manufacturers and carriers include by default. In addition, custom ROMs can give you the latest version of Android weeks--or even months--ahead of the carriers' sluggish update schedules.
Rooted phones can take advantage of some great performance tweaks--such as CPU overclocking and improved cache management--that can dramatically speed up Android. You can take advantage of these options either by installing a ROM that includes them or by downloading apps from the Android Market that will automatically tweak settings on your rooted phone for you.
It would be a stretch to say that rooting Android is a necessary project for most users. In fact, most people should never even try it on their phones, just as most PC users probably shouldn't attempt to overclock their processors. But if you're an advanced user (or an intermediate user with a taste for adventure) and you know the risks, rooting can help you get a lot more fun and function out of your Android device.
Get Root
Until fairly recently, rooting Android was a messy process that required installing the Android Debug Bridge and hacking the phone from a command line. Fortunately, some industrious hackers have produced a few simple apps that can root your device in seconds with the tap of a finger. In this tutorial, I'll discuss two such apps--Easy Root (for the Motorola Droid, Droid X, and Milestone, and the HTC/Google Nexus One) and Unrevoked (which supports a variety of HTC handsets).
It's important to note here that although these one-click root apps are easy to use, they aren't completely trouble-free. For instance, as of this writing the developer of Unrevoked 3 is reviewing it to solve a problem with the HTC EVO 4G (but Unrevoked 2 is still available). And the latest version of Android, 2.2 (aka Froyo), will present new challenges for root users as carriers and phone manufacturers continue to try to block users from hacking their handsets. These obstacles are a basic reality for anyone attempting to root their device, just as Apple iPhone users must constantly adapt to Apple's efforts to block people from jailbreaking the iPhone.
Even though Easy Root and Unrevoked don't work on all Android phones, they do cover a broad swath of the Android universe. If you're interested in rooting a Samsung Galaxy or another device, however, you still have options--they're just not as easy. Because the state of Android hacking is constantly in flux, your best bet for phones not covered in this tutorial is to google "root" and the name of your phone, or to keep an eye on the discussions about your phone on a good Android forum, such as AllDroid.org.
Step 1: Download a Rooting App
To get started rooting your phone, you need the appropriate app for your device. If you're using a Droid, Droid X, Milestone, or Nexus One, you'll want Easy Root. HTC users with an Aria, Desire, Droid Incredible, EVO 4G, Hero, or Wildfire/Buzz will want to use Unrevoked. With either of these apps, your first step is to download the app directly from the developer's Website and put it in the root folder of your phone's SD Card.
Easy Root downloads as an APK file that's ready to run from the phone, so you could just download it straight onto the device and tap it in your file manager app to run it.
Unrevoked downloads as a zipped file with several files inside it. If you have an unzip utility on your phone, you can download and unzip it directly on your device. Otherwise, you'll need to unzip it on a PC and copy the appropriate file to the phone. Because Unrevoked comes in a few phone-specific files, it's generally best just to copy the correct file from your PC in the first place. The documentation on the Unrevoked site clearly explains which file to use for your particular phone.
Step 2: Install the App
Once you've placed the APK file for your rooting app onto your phone's SD Card, locate it with a file-management app such as Astro File Manager and tap it to start the installation. Follow the prompts to allow the installation. Once this finishes, the rooting app will appear in the phone's App Drawer. Launch it.
Step 3: Root It
Easy Root for Android
Easy Root's interface is as simple as it gets. Tap 'ROOT ME!' to root your phone.
This is the moment of truth. With your newly installed rooting app launched, tap the option to root the phone. (You may first have to tap past a warning or disclaimer screen.) Once you tap the button to root your phone, the app will spend a few seconds running a script that alters the system's user permissions to allow superuser access and install a customized recovery image on your phone's System partition. It will then present you with a screen that says you have root.
In some instances, running Easy Root or Unrevoked on a supported device and following all the instructions exactly can still result in an unrooted phone. If this happens to you, don't lose heart. The developers of these apps are highly responsive to user questions and feedback, and if you take care to document everything you did and all of the relevant settings on your device, you stand a good chance of getting the help you need to root your handset. Or, at the very least, you could provide valuable information that the developer can use to update the app and make it work on phones like yours. Just remember: Rooting is a precarious business for everyone involved, and these developers have put a lot of work into their projects with very little promise of reward. So be nice, even if you're frustrated.
Step 4: Reboot
Restart your phone to enable the new root permissions on your device. Congratulations--your handset should now be rooted.
Now What?
Gaining superuser access to your phone is just the first step in a vast new territory of Android exploration. Depending on which rooting app you're using, you may already be enjoying the performance and usability benefits of a host of enhancements included in your root recovery image. But there's plenty more to explore.
Barnacle Wi-Fi Tether
Barnacle makes it one-tap easy to add Wi-Fi tethering to your phone, even if your carrier doesn't support the feature.
If your phone doesn't support Wi-Fi tethering out of the box, you can now add it to your rooted phone. Barnacle is a good, fairly simple app that exploits root for tethering with or without your carrier's support.
Root users also have the option to overclock the phone's CPU to give it a serious performance boost. For this task, it's hard to beat SetCPU, which offers a friendly slider-bar interface for setting your phone's clock speed. But be careful: Setting your clock speed too high can damage your phone permanently.
ROM Manager
ROM Manager includes a variety of features that make replacing your phone's stock OS easy.
The ultimate Android hack is to replace your phone's default operating system with a custom ROM. You have many to choose from, and each has its own pros and cons. Some ROMs are designed for specific phone models, and not all Android phones support the installation of a custom ROM. As of this writing, the Droid X is particularly problematic in this regard, while handsets such as the Nexus One and Droid Incredible support a wide variety of ROMs. The best way to find, install, and manage ROMs is to run ROM Manager, which is available for free from the Android Market. ROM Manager Premium even offers a large list of available ROMs that you can download straight from the app itself.
Have Fun
By now you should have a pretty good handle on working with a rooted Android device. I've attempted to cover all the basics in this guide, but there's no shortage of additional tips, tricks, and advice that can help you improve how Android functions. If you have some tips of your own to share, please chime in with a comment. And if you think my attempt to simplify the process has resulted in a significant error or omission, please let me know by e-mailing [email protected].
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thanks will do some reading
Hello, I'm new to this forum, but, I have been in other forums relating to hacking 'mobile' devices. Previously, I was part of a number of different iOS forums, so, I know about jailbreaking, and troubleshooting problems on the iOS platform. I'll also share my few thoughts on Android, and my experience on Jelly Bean so far within this, embarrassingly long, post.
However, with Google's announcement of the Nexus 7, I was impressed by Android, and I was thoroughly impressed that it had finally sorted out the lagging problems. (I had used Android tablets, but they never appealed to me due to the lag which each one experienced. Jelly Bean, and, in particular, 'Project Butter', has remedied this issue - I have experienced no lag on my Nexus 7 since I received it a week ago.) And so, I pre-ordered the Nexus 7 - deciding against purchasing, a much more expensive, but, I believed, an excellent tablet, the iPad.
iOS, also, was beginning to become less interesting to use - sure, the iPad may have a larger scale of the iOS mobile operating system, but it remained largely the same. Same interface (although on a, admittedly, much better screen) same apps, same freedom - without the jailbreak. The new iPad (as advertised and sold by Apple), I thought, also did not do an excellent job on improving it's predecessor. Sure, an improved screen, and processor to power the screen - but is that worth it? (Considering another one will, inevitably, be released within a year.)
Tegra 3 was making strides. Although, one thing that saddens me about Android, and is something which definitely hinders it's ability to overthrow iOS - is the fragmentation present on the operating system. I'm not sure which apps are compatible with my Nexus 7, and which ones are not. (On a side not, piracy is also another factor which slows the progress of Android, and is perhaps a reason why some apps are exclusive to iOS in the first place - I'm looking at you Epic Games! Android certainly has the power and graphical capabilities to run the game, but Epic, like all companies must, are interested primarily on their profits. Again, fragmentation plays its part!)
Although, shifting to different mobile operating systems is rather difficult - especially since I am intrigued by modifications, and altering devices to make them fulfil my needs. On iOS, it was quite simple: There was only one thing to do - jailbreak. A process, which in itself, was extremely simple (for the most part.) It appears there are also much more iOS specialists on YouTube, who post easy to follow tutorials. Also, since iOS is a 'closed' platform, I was not concerned by viruses, and I knew what I could, and could not do.
Android, however, is open - and this, paradoxically, limits myself. There are so many modifications, I do not know which ones are good, which ones are bad, and which ones could result in bricking my, now beloved, Nexus 7. I don't want to completely mess up my device, or install random rubbish which only makes it slower. I have, almost literally, no clue on where to start. Sure, I've downloaded a few basic apps from Google Play - TegraZone - but who cannot do that without assistance?
I want to install more widgets, that amaze me, and also applications which will prove useful. (For example, a file managing app, a torrent app (no piracy! ), and other cool things.) I also, though, require a reliable anti-virus. Having previously used iOS for a number of years, I was not subject to any viruses, and, indeed, I did not have to worry about viruses - there are very few, if any, viruses on iOS. Android, though, is much more open to viruses. I need to ensure that I do not succumb to one.
However, what I am most interested in is the 'rooting' process, and the benefits which can derive from it. What extra things can I achieve by rooting my Nexus 7? What applications should I install to supplement the rooted device? (I have read of ClockWork(?)Mod, but I have not really ventured that far into applications which take advantage of rooting, since a lot of the information mentioned appears to me as gibberish, due to my noobishness .) And, perhaps most importantly, if something were to go tragically wrong - how would I recover the device. (Again, I'll make a reference to iOS, since, it is an operating system I am familiar with - you could simply restore the device through iTunes - what is Android's alternative?)
So, can you assist me in getting accustomed to the Android operating system by providing your recommended apps, and also useful tutorials which I can use to develop my understanding? I literally have no clue what half of the things in the Android section of this forum talk about - they included an abundance of vocabulary which, evidently, you need relative experience to understand. I also need require some Android experts - involved in perhaps development - to follow on Twitter!
Thanks for reading through my essay! Please, help a noob get started! I would appreciate all forms of feedback!
Note: I have downloaded the Android SDK (Although, not installed it, as of the time of writing.), and I have also got the factory image for the Nexus 7. I achieved this by briefly viewing a YouTube video. There do not appear to be that many, though. The XDA YouTube channel generally covers the news aspect of all things related to Android.
The greatest bit of advice I can give is to start here - Nexus 7 - and read read read!
There's no backup and restoring the entire system without root. When you do you can install a custom recovery. Note there is always a stock recovery that is far limited compared to recoveries such as CWM.
Android really doesn't have problems with viruses. Seriously. The only reason why it appears so is because idiots sideload apps from shady sites that contain viruses, but on iOS there is no sideloading without jailbreak.
For a file managing app, you can use Explorer (my preferance), ES File Explorer, or Astro.
Widgets are really personal preferance, I keep a music widget to quickly play music, a calendar widget, weather widget. You might want a news widget like Flipboard.
Rooting gives you full access to your device. It allows performance gains like overclocking, battery saving with underclocking. Like I said before, it opens to ability to backup/restore entire systems and individual apps with Titanium Backup. You can install customs ROMs, delete system apps (usually bloatware), remap the physical keys, use Tasker for automated tasking (pretty awesome btw). You can also edit system files, such as notification tones, ringtones, bootanimation, etc.
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Konflict1471 said:
Hello, I'm new to this forum, but, I have been in other forums relating to hacking 'mobile' devices. Previously, I was part of a number of different iOS forums, so, I know about jailbreaking, and troubleshooting problems on the iOS platform. I'll also share my few thoughts on Android, and my experience on Jelly Bean so far within this, embarrassingly long, post.
However, with Google's announcement of the Nexus 7, I was impressed by Android, and I was thoroughly impressed that it had finally sorted out the lagging problems. (I had used Android tablets, but they never appealed to me due to the lag which each one experienced. Jelly Bean, and, in particular, 'Project Butter', has remedied this issue - I have experienced no lag on my Nexus 7 since I received it a week ago.) And so, I pre-ordered the Nexus 7 - deciding against purchasing, a much more expensive, but, I believed, an excellent tablet, the iPad.
iOS, also, was beginning to become less interesting to use - sure, the iPad may have a larger scale of the iOS mobile operating system, but it remained largely the same. Same interface (although on a, admittedly, much better screen) same apps, same freedom - without the jailbreak. The new iPad (as advertised and sold by Apple), I thought, also did not do an excellent job on improving it's predecessor. Sure, an improved screen, and processor to power the screen - but is that worth it? (Considering another one will, inevitably, be released within a year.)
Tegra 3 was making strides. Although, one thing that saddens me about Android, and is something which definitely hinders it's ability to overthrow iOS - is the fragmentation present on the operating system. I'm not sure which apps are compatible with my Nexus 7, and which ones are not. (On a side not, piracy is also another factor which slows the progress of Android, and is perhaps a reason why some apps are exclusive to iOS in the first place - I'm looking at you Epic Games! Android certainly has the power and graphical capabilities to run the game, but Epic, like all companies must, are interested primarily on their profits. Again, fragmentation plays its part!)
Although, shifting to different mobile operating systems is rather difficult - especially since I am intrigued by modifications, and altering devices to make them fulfil my needs. On iOS, it was quite simple: There was only one thing to do - jailbreak. A process, which in itself, was extremely simple (for the most part.) It appears there are also much more iOS specialists on YouTube, who post easy to follow tutorials. Also, since iOS is a 'closed' platform, I was not concerned by viruses, and I knew what I could, and could not do.
Android, however, is open - and this, paradoxically, limits myself. There are so many modifications, I do not know which ones are good, which ones are bad, and which ones could result in bricking my, now beloved, Nexus 7. I don't want to completely mess up my device, or install random rubbish which only makes it slower. I have, almost literally, no clue on where to start. Sure, I've downloaded a few basic apps from Google Play - TegraZone - but who cannot do that without assistance?
I want to install more widgets, that amaze me, and also applications which will prove useful. (For example, a file managing app, a torrent app (no piracy! ), and other cool things.) I also, though, require a reliable anti-virus. Having previously used iOS for a number of years, I was not subject to any viruses, and, indeed, I did not have to worry about viruses - there are very few, if any, viruses on iOS. Android, though, is much more open to viruses. I need to ensure that I do not succumb to one.
However, what I am most interested in is the 'rooting' process, and the benefits which can derive from it. What extra things can I achieve by rooting my Nexus 7? What applications should I install to supplement the rooted device? (I have read of ClockWork(?)Mod, but I have not really ventured that far into applications which take advantage of rooting, since a lot of the information mentioned appears to me as gibberish, due to my noobishness .) And, perhaps most importantly, if something were to go tragically wrong - how would I recover the device. (Again, I'll make a reference to iOS, since, it is an operating system I am familiar with - you could simply restore the device through iTunes - what is Android's alternative?)
So, can you assist me in getting accustomed to the Android operating system by providing your recommended apps, and also useful tutorials which I can use to develop my understanding? I literally have no clue what half of the things in the Android section of this forum talk about - they included an abundance of vocabulary which, evidently, you need relative experience to understand. I also need require some Android experts - involved in perhaps development - to follow on Twitter!
Thanks for reading through my essay! Please, help a noob get started! I would appreciate all forms of feedback!
Note: I have downloaded the Android SDK (Although, not installed it, as of the time of writing.), and I have also got the factory image for the Nexus 7. I achieved this by briefly viewing a YouTube video. There do not appear to be that many, though. The XDA YouTube channel generally covers the news aspect of all things related to Android.
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Welcome to Android!
I think you'll enjoy it
Ok on to your questions:
These are gonna be out of order
Reliable anti-virus: Trend Micro Mobile Security (worth the $10 )
Benefits of CWM: Backups, restores, custom ROM flashing
Benefits of rooting: custom ROMs, access to system files
Some apps to get started: Angry birds , Rom Manager, BatteryCalibration, ES File Manager, imo
Android's alternative to iTunes' restore is CWM. It's not official but its tons better then iTunes. You do it from the device and its a full, complete restore.
Ask again if I didn't answer something
Very long post BUT a few things to think about.
I have never used a antivirus software and really they are pointless just look at the apps before you download them read the comments and look at the permissions the app uses and think "does that fart noise app need to be able to send texts" of cause the answer is no so don't install it.
Other fractures can be useful like phone tracking but there are better apps that are free for this like prey.
If you root you will have full control of your filesystem much like su on Linux if you have ever used this. You could for example with root use my project to run Linux distros like Ubuntu. The nexus 7 due to being under googles power is very easy to unlock and root and if you mess something up easy to restore a backup. There are other great apps to like being able to back up apps and there data.
Just a few points and if you have more questions feel free to pm me
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AVG or Avast antivirus are the best.
Solid Explorer is the best file explorer.
UCCW is the most customizable widget.
Taptu or Pulse are the best news readers.
Pocket.
Tapatalk forum.
MX player is the best video player.
Dropbox is by far the best cloud storage.
Photoshop.
PowerAMP is the best Music Player.
I would say that you don't need to root a Nexus Device. You got the latest OS and will always have.
The only reason you would wanna root is for some root apps.
Like Titanium Backup, AdBlocker and ROM Toolbox.
CWM is only necessary if you want to flash a custom ROM and you don't need to because you already have AOSP Jelly BEAN.
Thanks for all of the responses! And apologies for the long post! xD
I'll look through the Nexus 7 forums as XperienceD mentioned.
And by ClockWordMod - is that actually ROM Manager? I'm confused, and this is probably the most noobish question you'll get. xD
Since I don't really want to root my Nexus 7 (currently, that is) - then I would not really need to back up the data, since, there will be no risk. I'm not really concerned about overclocking my device - it's quite fast as it is. However, battery saving is quite tempting. Although, I don't see it as a reason alone to root my Nexus. And, as it is stock Google - there is no unnecessary bloat ware attached to the device.
And I can't get viruses while browsing through the internet?
I always thought that was the case, which is why I was looking for an anti-virus application.
Also, for UCCW - do I need to install a custom launcher of some sort? Is it really possible to add a widget, that appears complicated, simply through the Google Play market?
And finally, while installing ES File Explorer - I noticed that it had permission to remove shortcuts without user intervention. Is this the sort of permission I should be checking for on other applications? Since people on this forum recommended the app, I didn't really have any doubts of whether it was legit.3.
Also, how you I get toggles back on the notification bar? On iOS (sorry for the repeated mentioning of the scum ) - I had SBSettings, which was similar to the notifications available on Android. How would I add the toggles back?
Konflict1471 said:
Thanks for all of the responses! And apologies for the long post! xD
I'll look through the Nexus 7 forums as XperienceD mentioned.
And by ClockWordMod - is that actually ROM Manager? I'm confused, and this is probably the most noobish question you'll get. xD
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It is a custom recovery which lets you backup your ROM, flash new ROMs and make other changes to your device (so in a way use it is a ROM manager)
Konflict1471 said:
Since I don't really want to root my Nexus 7 (currently, that is) - then I would not really need to back up the data, since, there will be no risk. I'm not really concerned about overclocking my device - it's quite fast as it is. However, battery saving is quite tempting. Although, I don't see it as a reason alone to root my Nexus. And, as it is stock Google - there is no unnecessary bloat ware attached to the device.
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This is true if you have a nexus device the need for root is far less, and the fact that alot of apps that used to need root have become features in new versions of android, back in the days of 1.5/6 you needed root to pretty much do anything good
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And I can't get viruses while browsing through the internet?
I always thought that was the case, which is why I was looking for an anti-virus application.
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Sure you might get windows viruses but in no way will they beable to run on your device let aloan harm it. The only way anything evil can be done is if you install the app (and in alot of cases give it root) so check those permissions!
anti-virus apps are the biggest scam (well paid one anyway) all they can really do is check a database of known bad apps and check it its there, other than that they do nothing. They are a trick from all the Windows users coming to android after having it hammered into them that you need anti-virus
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Also, for UCCW - do I need to install a custom launcher of some sort? Is it really possible to add a widget, that appears complicated, simply through the Google Play market?
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Nope just add the widget to your home creen, in the app launcher press the widget button and then long press on the widget you want and drag it to the home screen you want, many apps include widgets so will be installed with the app as part of it (e.g twitter) while other 'apps' are just widgets
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And finally, while installing ES File Explorer - I noticed that it had permission to remove shortcuts without user intervention. Is this the sort of permission I should be checking for on other applications? Since people on this forum recommended the app, I didn't really have any doubts of whether it was legit.3.
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There is likely a good reason for this (And with alot of apps if there is a odd permissions it will say in the apps description why its needed) but yes its the kind of thing you have to stop and think about
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Also, how you I get toggles back on the notification bar? On iOS (sorry for the repeated mentioning of the scum ) - I had SBSettings, which was similar to the notifications available on Android. How would I add the toggles back?
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to add toggles you would either need to use a custom ROM, or download a app that will do it like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.j4velin.notificationToggle&hl=en
Thanks very much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!
I'll just do what you recommended! The Notification Toggle is an extremely impressive app, I must admit.
Since there is no point downloading a paid antivirus, should I download Avast Anti-virus (since it's free), just for precautionary measures?
Konflict1471 said:
Thanks very much for your detailed and extremely helpful reply!
I'll just do what you recommended! The Notification Toggle is an extremely impressive app, I must admit.
Since there is no point downloading a paid antivirus, should I download Avast Anti-virus (since it's free), just for precautionary measures?
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Well its not going to hurt and would at least prevent an app thats bad be installed if you missed it. And like I said some do have some nice other features just the "anit-virus" side of it is rather pointless
There is a huge thread with skins for UCCW.
And Power Widgets or Notification Toggles are the best Notification Drawer toggle apps.
NT has customizable icons.
If you want weather too there's some new app called Deluxe Notification Bar which shows weather and toggles.
Look in the Nexus 7 forums for no-root battery saving advice.
And if you do not want battery drain don't use Anti-virus.
I've never had any virus problems.
If you're unrooted they can't really mess with your phone.
Just stay away from creepy apps, Chinese apps (no racist), piracied apps and apps from other than Play Store and XDA.
And never play ad-supported games.
Buy ad-free versions or play offline if you don't want battery drain.
Also SwiftKey is a MUST, if you're not happy with Jelly Bean keyboard.
Hi guys,
First of all, I think this is the place to ask this, but if it weren't, please feel free to move to somewhere more adequate.
My bank has blocked its app on rooted phones. Is something that I don't agree with, but I understand why they do it (even when I think it's pointless). I also use a couple of apps that require root, and as of now, I prefer to be rooted than using the banking app. I was wondering if it would be possible, due to android's multiuser support, to have two users, one with root, one without, and use the unrooted user for the banking app. I searched a bit and come with nothing, with either means that is not possible, or that I am terrible at searching. Has somebody tried this?
Is there a phone/android version that allows someone whos not an Android expert to actually have control over what their phones doing? Or is it just not possible nowadays for a regular person to fully control the info their phone sends?
Sorry if this sounds cynical, it really is a genuine question.
Thank you.
Hi Steve, it sounds like what you need is a rooted phone. Forgive me if you're already familiar with the term, but rooting basically gives you administrator rights over just about everything on your phone, with only a few exceptions depending on which Android version the phone is running. This allows you to do stuff like revoke permissions for apps, block ads, and change how Android looks and behaves.
Do you have a phone in mind already? If not, what's your budget?
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rhythm_dx said:
Hi Steve, it sounds like what you need is a rooted phone. Forgive me if you're already familiar with the term, but rooting basically gives you administrator rights over just about everything on your phone, with only a few exceptions depending on which Android version the phone is running. This allows you to do stuff like revoke permissions for apps, block ads, and change how Android looks and behaves.
Do you have a phone in mind already? If not, what's your budget?
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Thank you for your help. I had a rooted phone, but a friend did it for me. Now I have a S8 active on Pie and from my research the bootloader I have (V5) is not rootable. I'm definitely not well versed in Android though and could be wrong. That's why I was wondering if there was a device that offered full control without the need and rick of rooting. If there's not, could you suggest one that is perhaps the simplest and least risky to root? I don't need top of the line, I don't game or anything and would be fine with getting something used. thanks again!
Luckily, there is a way in stock Android to control permissions! I forgot about it when I was typing my previous response. Here's an overview: https://www.howtogeek.com/355257/can-you-control-specific-permissions-on-android/ Hope that does what you're looking for.
If you want to do more with a rooted phone like block ads, there are some that are easily rootable, like the Google Pixel series. Here are a few options: https://www.androidcentral.com/best-phone-rooting-and-modding I liked the Pixel 2XL I used through my previous job, and I've heard good things about the other Pixels, for what that's worth. I haven't tried the other phones in that link, but the OnePlus phones have an excellent reputation.
There are many other phones that have varying degrees of difficulty for rooting, but I'm not aware of any relatively recent ones not on that list that I'd consider easy to root. I've found that the best approach to finding a new phone is going to GSM Arena's Phone Finder to put on my criteria, then coming back to XDA and searching through the forums to find out whether my prospective phone of choice has root yet. As you've discovered with your S8, some phones just never get there, which is pretty frustrating.
I hope that helps! Holler if you have any other questions.
Well, that's my main issue, you can only control certain permissions there. When I click "all permissions" I can see them all, but not turn them off. It's just a bummer that one has to go thru all this rigmarole to control a device they supposedly own. I was hoping maybe someone made a device that you could control stock, but I guess that was wishful thinking. Thanks again.
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Is there a phone/android version that allows someone whos not an Android expert to actually have control over what their phones doing? Or is it just not possible nowadays for a regular person to fully control the info their phone sends?
Sorry if this sounds cynical, it really is a genuine question.
Thank you.
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You must distinguish between Android OS itself and the apps that run on it: Android OS has no permissions you can invoke/revoke, only hardware/OS specific settings can be made there, but permissions can be granted/withdrawn from an app - if its developer has allowed the latter. To change the permissions of an app basically no rooted Android is required, this is done either via Android->Settings or via a 3rd-party APK editor.
BTW: It exist 3rd-party apps that can show you what apps are sending/receiving data over Internet.
Hint: Use your Android phone without Google.
Is root required to disable hardware?
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Is root required to disable hardware?
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No, only a hammer. :laugh:
Hi,
In this thread or post we will discuss the option that we have to deal with Sony Sketch App.
We all know that the app was terminated since it wasn't doing good profit wise, therefore it was shut down, we will not discuss how to export the data, since this option is not longer available anymore, since Sony had given their users six months to do so.
Now, the question is as the following: (If anyone can answer them that would be cool)
How to extract the downloaded STICKERS from the app?
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How to download the list of the stickers online if they are available?
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How to download any other stickers or icons online and use them within the app?
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What is the format of the stickers used within the app?
In my Twitter account @MedoHamdani an image of the full list of the stickers. If anyone can recreate them, please do let me know. If anyone know where to find them in the phone, please do let me know so they can be extracted and shared with the community.
There is another app called Sketch United by one of the previous developer called Carl (This info not confirmed yet), but it is not similar to Sony Sketch app at all and doesn't have the stickers function.
Thanks
Medo Hamdani
Hi,
MedoHamdani said:
How to extract the downloaded STICKERS from the app?
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Stickers are located in (complete path from root folder)
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/files/content/stickers
However, you need root access to see the files and eventually add/import another stickers.
Also, the stickers won't show-up in the app until they are registered also within 'content-packs.db' SQLite database.
Database location
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/databases
By copying all the stickers files and replacing the content-packs.* database files, I was able to transfer all my stickers to another phone. Also, file permissions must be set properly (chmod 777, recursively), otherwise you'll actually see a scrollable list of stickers, but everything blank, just blank thumbnails, as the app prepares buttons for them based on the database of downloaded content, but then cannot access them due to bad permissions set on the individual files.
Sadly, I don't have complete pack of stickers, but I'll share them anyway: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13VPrjQeLhOiUi7BoOe-znNNT6bP_xq6-?usp=sharing
(compatible with 9.0.T.0.6 and 9.0.A.0.6)
For a non-root users is eventually possible to use built-in Backup & Restore feature found e.g. on LG or Asus phones, which can import/export complete apps INCLUDING data, not just APK file alone. This way I was able to actually extract the Stickers from my non-rooted LG G6 and import them to a rooted Asus ZenFone 2.
Unfortunately, the export files are not in standardized format across manufacturers, and so one rooted device from every smartphone brand with such Backup & Restore functionality would be needed to cover most non-rooted users. Plus, the exported package often contain various personal information, e.g. I found bits and pieces of photo (?) metadata with text geographical locations included, despite I unchecked all but the one single Sketch app for making the backup. And so while it might be a solution for a non-rooted phones, it might hardly be the preferred one.
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What is the format of the stickers used within the app?
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nfsmaniac said:
Hi,
Stickers are located in (complete path from root folder)
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/files/content/stickers
However, you need root access to see the files and eventually add/import another stickers.
Also, the stickers won't show-up in the app until they are registered also within 'content-packs.db' SQLite database.
Database location
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/databases
By copying all the stickers files and replacing the content-packs.* database files, I was able to transfer all my stickers to another phone. Also, file permissions must be set properly (chmod 777, recursively), otherwise you'll actually see a scrollable list of stickers, but everything blank, just blank thumbnails, as the app prepares buttons for them based on the database of downloaded content, but then cannot access them due to bad permissions set on the individual files.
Sadly, I don't have complete pack of stickers, but I'll share them anyway: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/13VPrjQeLhOiUi7BoOe-znNNT6bP_xq6-?usp=sharing
(compatible with 9.0.T.0.6 and 9.0.A.0.6)
For a non-root users is eventually possible to use built-in Backup & Restore feature found e.g. on LG or Asus phones, which can import/export complete apps INCLUDING data, not just APK file alone. This way I was able to actually extract the Stickers from my non-rooted LG G6 and import them to a rooted Asus ZenFone 2.
Unfortunately, the export files are not in standardized format across manufacturers, and so one rooted device from every smartphone brand with such Backup & Restore functionality would be needed to cover most non-rooted users. Plus, the exported package often contain various personal information, e.g. I found bits and pieces of photo (?) metadata with text geographical locations included, despite I unchecked all but the one single Sketch app for making the backup. And so while it might be a solution for a non-rooted phones, it might hardly be the preferred one.
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Thanks for your detailed answer, if you have done this process and recorded it in a video that would be helpful. Thanks much
By the way, do you know any other app that does the same thing?
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By the way, do you know any other app that does the same thing?
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There are some apps like Titanium Backup for making apps backup/restore, but you need root for all of them. Otherwise you need to rely on your phone manufacturer whether he included some proprietary app for this AND whether the format is not any encrypted and if there are tools available to extract the backup file.
E.g. me, on LG's backup I used this great tool to extract it: https://github.com/Mysak0CZ/LBFtool
Okay, first of all let me ask you few questions:
Do you have complete pack of stickers that have been ever available?
What phone do you have? Is it rooted or not?
In case you have root, extraction of Stickers will be a lot easier.
Just navigate inside some file manager like Root Explorer or Total Commander to
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/files/content/stickers
and make backup (create archive, ZIP), of all of its content.
Additionaly copy also these two or three files (first one is the most important and should be common, last two ones varies by device)
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/databases/content-packs.db
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/databases/content-packs.db-shm
/data/data/com.sonymobile.sketch/databases/content-packs.db-journal
Then you can share them and I'll eventually try to get our two collections together to create bigger collection, closer to be complete, in case you don't have complete pack of Stickers.
In case you DON'T have rooted phone, I would ask you for details about your phone first. I can do a guide of what I have, but procedure might be different on your device.
Here is video how it looks on LG, something very similar I've seen on older Asus phones (at Android 5) also.
I've made backup to microSD card, unticked all options and ticked only Sony Sketch app (within "Downloaded apps" section) to be included in the backup.
Hi,
The answer to these questions:
Do you have a complete pack of stickers that have been ever available?
Well, not all of them but most of them, that was one of the reasons that the phone was not sold or formatted.
What phone do you have? Is it rooted or not?
Samsung Galaxy Fan Edition, and it is not rooted, but willing to undergo the process of rooting.
Is there any app that is similar to Sony Sketch, or can we make another one using Adalo?
@MedoHamdani Personally I am lacking real alternative to Sony Sketch. It was lightweight and intuitive app, simple but powerful. And particualary the Stickers were good here. Lack of serious alternative that wouldn't be full of crappy bloat and ads is the reason why I am willing to spend time on this abandoned app.
I've looked into internals of the Sketch app and while I have zero experience with Android apps modding, it seems to be surprisingly clean and understandable code to me.
Chances are I could be able to just embedd the stickers into the base APK file, the same way how there already is the basic set of Stickers included in the app. I believe that even custom fonts might be possible to add.
Sadly, not always are things as simple as they might seem to be. But i will try it.
Anyway I do appreciate the fact you've kept them in archive and have the will to root your phone.
In case of any difficulties, feel free to reach me out or other members in appropriate forum section dedicated to your device.
Please, try to make a backup of the Sony Sketch app first just in case of any failure (or data loss) during the procedure of rooting your phone, so you'd be able to restore the app back to yours (or another) Samsung phone.
Thank you and good luck!
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@MedoHamdani Personally I am lacking real alternative to Sony Sketch. It was lightweight and intuitive app, simple but powerful. And particualary the Stickers were good here. Lack of serious alternative that wouldn't be full of crappy bloat and ads is the reason why I am willing to spend time on this abandoned app.
I've looked into internals of the Sketch app and while I have zero experience with Android apps modding, it seems to be surprisingly clean and understandable code to me.
Chances are I could be able to just embedd the stickers into the base APK file, the same way how there already is the basic set of Stickers included in the app. I believe that even custom fonts might be possible to add.
Sadly, not always are things as simple as they might seem to be. But i will try it.
Anyway I do appreciate the fact you've kept them in archive and have the will to root your phone.
In case of any difficulties, feel free to reach me out or other members in appropriate forum section dedicated to your device.
Please, try to make a backup of the Sony Sketch app first just in case of any failure (or data loss) during the procedure of rooting your phone, so you'd be able to restore the app back to yours (or another) Samsung phone.
Thank you and good luck!
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Thanks for your extensive detailed reply.
Guess we can form a team who are willing to voluntarily make the app possible. We can use Adalo which is a platform where we can create apps without coding.
If possible will schedule an online meeting using Google Meet so we can back up the phone and root it. Let me know if you are in.
Just imagine if we manage to launch the app after a year from now, since it already has its reputation we can get up to 100,000 downloads.
Please do let me know what software is needed for the backup and the roots.
Cheers,
Medo Hamdani
Dear @MedoHamdani,
I doubt that a sketching app with any practical value can be made using Adalo or any other platform claiming "no coding needed".
I heavily doubt we can just extract stickers we own no rights to and use them in any of our apps that will be publicly distributed somewhere or even sold, as it could be considered as illegal and we would break the rules of XDA forum and laws in your and my country too.
At most we can slightly modify the original application and distribute it with its no-longer available online content. Or create a whole new app with our own stickers and other content.
Perhaps we should move to a private messages if you'd like to discuss it any more in this manner.
You haven't provided exact model of your phone, so I can't point you to any forum thread.
Maybe you should let rooting of your phone on someone more experienced. Or if you have some older or cheaper Samsung phone, definitely try Samsung Smart Switch if it will work for transferring of Sony Sketch's data & stickers.
There is many video guides and it can be done even wirelessly.
Then you can play around with rooting while having a lower harm in case of failure during making a root.
While I can share your enthusiasm, I'd prefer other option to some video meeting currently, I see it as it's kind of early for doing such activity. I hope you understand.
nfsmaniac said:
Dear @MedoHamdani,
I doubt that a sketching app with any practical value can be made using Adalo or any other platform claiming "no coding needed".
I heavily doubt we can just extract stickers we own no rights to and use them in any of our apps that will be publicly distributed somewhere or even sold, as it could be considered as illegal and we would break the rules of XDA forum and laws in your and my country too.
At most we can slightly modify the original application and distribute it with its no-longer available online content. Or create a whole new app with our own stickers and other content.
Perhaps we should move to a private messages if you'd like to discuss it any more in this manner.
You haven't provided exact model of your phone, so I can't point you to any forum thread.
Maybe you should let rooting of your phone on someone more experienced. Or if you have some older or cheaper Samsung phone, definitely try Samsung Smart Switch if it will work for transferring of Sony Sketch's data & stickers.
There is many video guides and it can be done even wirelessly.
Then you can play around with rooting while having a lower harm in case of failure during making a root.
While I can share your enthusiasm, I'd prefer other option to some video meeting currently, I see it as it's kind of early for doing such activity. I hope you understand.
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Alright let's do this, you are right we can't simply make the whole app with no code platform. point noted.
However, we can extract them then modify them then publish them. ( we might require some volunteers to assist us)
We can move to private messages as well for sure.
The exact model should be Samsung Galaxy Note Fan Edition.
Model Number: SM-N935F/DS
Android version: 9
Previously there was an APK file called King Root that does the job, it was used once on a Lenovo phone, however, it is better to be safe than sorry.
Regarding the video meeting, we can disregard it, that should be fine.
How about creating a backup on the PC instead of getting another phone?!
Thanks much for your help,
We will get these stickers out sooner or later.
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