Hi, Xperia people. You probably don't know me, but in the future I might be getting an Xperia U, and looking forward to it!
I couldn't find a XPU Q&A sub-forum, so I decided to post here. You're probably wondering why won't I get an Xperia S, or P? That's because my dad said I could pick a phone, up to £200, and he might get it for me, as a present for getting good grades.
Reading my own post, I probably sound like some stupid trolling, spamming kid who doesn't know a thing about Android, or programming, etc...
Well, I previously owned a HTC Wildfire S, until it got stolen. I do know about bootloader unlocking, rooting, fastboot, specs (CPU, RAM, etc.), Linux, Bootloaders, prgramming (I don't know any programming languages, but I know a bit about them, and I only know the tiniest bit of Java in the world that won't help anyone). I like making ROMS, and flashing them.
So I just wanted to know some basic stuff about the XPU. For example, as soon as I get it, play around with it for a bit, then should I unlock the bootloader, and start flashing some new ROMS (like ICS and stuff), or do I need to do some stuff before that. I want to try lots of ROMS (and I want to make one too. I made a stock like basic HTC ROM once.) I also want to know how to boot into the bootloader, and stuff. I know this all probably has been asked before, but if I get a good enough amount of answers, I might consider transforming the thread into a Noob Guide.
If you own an XPU, can you post links to some good ROMS, ICS, stuff like that. Thanks!!!!
My missus has an Xperia U and it's a fine phone. For the <£200 price, it's unbeatable IMHO. Sure there are compromises, but they are in the right areas, not the wrong ones. Sony got it perfect for that price.:good:
I probably won't be getting it now. I've done more research, and there's a lack of development, so I don't think I want to get it.
get it now!
AndroidM0d said:
get it now!
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Indeed, you don't get alot for a £200 budget, certainly not ICS update, dual core, unlockable bootloader and the U's build quality....
Bad-Wolf said:
I probably won't be getting it now. I've done more research, and there's a lack of development, so I don't think I want to get it.
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there is lack of development indeed, but only because xperia U is using a relatively new chipset. once the devs gotten familiar with it I think development will roll in nicely
Actually I've got my XPU for about 3 weeks, it worked fine for me and no problem was faced.
I'm proud that I can get a such brilliant smartphone with a very reasonable price and the chance for eating ICS:laugh:
Yeah, well it is a good phone. But I can't take my chances and waste money. Even if there is more development, it might not be that much. DoomLord said himself that he might not do any development for XPU as he's already busy with the other XPs and he can barely keep up doing that. Believe me, I'd like to make ROMS myself (I made one for personal use, then distributed it), but I don't think I can just buy a phone to do that, and there aren't many development resources to do that. Also, this sub-forum is kind of "claustrophobic" because it's most of the XP devices together, and it's kinda messy, for me. Sorry guys, I'd like to become part of your community, but I don't think I can. I might just get a Desire HD, if I can, because I know a lot about HTC devices, it's got S-OFF, and plenty of development. It's already got ICS (was in the second page of Portal).
Anyway, thanks for the encouragement.
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I notice a lot of members are quick to jump to conclusions without anything to back it up.
Negative comments like "Dude, never gonna happen" are discouraging to the community and developers. Yes some people like to prove these people wrong, but to say that something will never happen is wrong in my eyes.
Examples of this would be the recent VMWare thread and the nexus app dump in the dev section
Developers work hard daily to make sure our phones are running smoothly with the latest firmware and software. and to say it won't happen is wrong unless you have solid facts to back up your claim...
Rant over
I know what you mean, and to a point agree.
From the other perspective, we've been talking about ICS here for at least a month now. Now you'll find about 10 threads saying are
we getting ICS???
we getting ICS???
we getting ICS???
we getting ICS???
That question has been answered 50 times. But more threads will come up. It's been discussed extensively already. People say search before making a new (repeat) of an existing thread, and anyway, when you post a new thread, it shows you similar ones...so WHY???! That gets my goat.....
Yes, a lot of people are wanting ICS. At the moment i'm not holding my breath for a ICS rom to be release. I have a rough idea of when we may see ICS to older phones such as the x10 & xperia ranges. I don't think we will be seeing ICS roms for at least another 2/3 months.
Developers have lives that come first, but for people to say ICS will never come to our phone is wrong, because even the top end phones like the Galaxy S2 haven't got a ICS rom yet. So why are people so quick to say we won't get it at all?
Well in vmware thread it wasn't a thread to discourage anyone! It was a research I made about trying to support virtualisation over android phones and I wanted to share it and try to progress in it! So please don't judge any incomplete discussion with developers until we reach a yes or no if it could be done or not!
I'm not having a whak at the developers. It's more of a rant to those people who don't offer suggestions, those that just down play everything (eg: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19405449&postcount=2). The VMWare is a great idea and i'm looking forward to seeing if anything comes out of it.
I picked those 2 as an example but throughout this forum, there's a lot of those comments that fit this
Well...
we getting ICS yet???
Yes no maybe
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Well...
we getting ICS yet???
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it's up to you
Anyway, real dual touch in the x10 mini... not gonna happen!!! Nobody should disagree with that...
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You're more in the know than i am. but i'm guessing another 2/3 months before we see ICS roms? :S
I can't believe you asked that question. (with about 15 existing threads on the matter now)
just stick to the topic. it isn't about ICS or any particular mod/rom/os. but comments that surround projects. people just seem to be too quick to jump to conclusions without any proper knowladge about what's involved.
Anyway, got the rant out of my system, i'm not gonna change the behaviour of a whole forum. I know to disregard those sorts of comments.
If some one would sticky them in bold letters on all sections it would be better. or else people will be posting asking about ics.
I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
Dude what the... we have root, can unlock the bootloader on the first day of the device how much easier and open can you get? I'm guessing you have never owned a Motorola phone before as u will then know the meaning of "locked tight".
Clockworkmod is coming like everything else, if you want to speed up the process you should help out perhaps, we can never have too many modders, rom makers, tweakers etc.
-smc
I've owned two motorola phones, and from what I see they did not have the bootloader not accepting unsigned software, even if locked. This make big difference as for now only official firmware are loadable and without a Sony change the situation remain without solutions.
...Okay
The phone has been out less than a month, and it's not even out globally yet (see the gigantic India thread, and others floating around at the moment, it's only available via import in a lot of locations)
Another thing...it is all being worked on at the moment. You want a custom firmware? be patient. There can't be any custom kernels yet because there is a bug in the bootloader at the moment (or something, I won't pretend to know how that works as i'm not a developer) that's keeping Doom and other developers from moving further with the development. Doom also doesn't own the S yet, so he can only do soo much at the moment.
There is already Mods available, but there isn't any modified firmwares out yet, because no one is making any, which I don't blame them because ICS is on its way. You can do it all yourself (read themes and apps section, maybe learn a bit about how to modify phone?), and until the bootloader thing is fixed, thats the best thing to do really.
There's no way to root without unlocking the bootloader -yet-.
It has been adressed many times, that there may be one in the future, but unlocking the bootloader is the current solution, and it works just fine. Also, keeping your bootloader locked (and it can even be relocked) limits your phone anyways. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't void your warranty, it just may if you do something stupid (read overlocking and frying phone) they may or may not (if they even see that you broke your phone by your own doing) fix it under warranty.
Also, if you havent noticed...there isn't a lot of developers on the Xperia S train yet, it all takes time.
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I want to make this provocatoty question because after more than one month our XPS is the most locked phone here in XDA.
The fact is that we can only swap original firmwares, there is no way to root the phone in an easy way, without unlocking bootloader, and there is no recovery available.
I'm new in a similar situation after many smartphones owned; yes, the software is not bad, nor has big issues, but the plus of Android is also the openess...
What do you think?
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
Nope, If you read relating posts, there is no way to make roms as in other phones, due to the bootloader bug, that is related to Sony not to developers.
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Are you blind or what ? there is root, unlocking bootloader is offered DIRECTLY by SONY, so no need to hack...
Sony has released sources for almost anything on this phone, so if you're able to you can edit and rebuild...
there is also a modded kernel...
what you want more ?
if you want you can download sources, and start to learn how to build the kernel... there are guides on the sony developer site.
it's not easy to find something to mod, when everythinq works VERY GOOD with stock... but if there are requests... we can start to mod...
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Please be polite, and read problems involved in development. Doom has locked his thread until there are news from Sony.
So OP's suggested solution for all these difficulties is just close the development section, then everything else will automatically be solved without anyone working, testing and exchanging ideas on it? Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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Although there is a bug in the bootloader I see no reason to close the whole thread .
There are other things that can be worked on and at the moment. It's a good place to get Stock Firmware that can be flashed . Always good to have a heavy variety of Stock ROMs to fall back too.
As stock firmwares are developed hopefully the bug will be fixed and Devs will be able to continue.
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Kudos to OP!
Actually I smell troll here.
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
Is there any way I can unlock it using a Mac? Didn't find anything to do it yet, but maybe I am blind
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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It was a provocatory post to show difficulties in developing software. If you look at the section it seems really abandoned.
If that's trolling, I submit to moderators judgement, and accept their decisions.
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Yeah, I agree, the section with the second highest posts is totally abandoned...
...If we follow this guideline, I think we should close the Accessories section, due to lack of gadgets to go with our phones! (can you see the sarcasm?)
Really, just be patient, it's a new phone, stop whining, or how you say "being provocative".
Edit: Okay sorry, maybe that was a bit harsh...but really, I feel you don't really have the right to judge the speed of fixes and developments when you aren't doing it yourself. The best thing you can do is deal with it for now. They are doing what they can.
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They are already working on cyanogen roms at mo for S. And the free xperia team have spoke to Sony and there will be a bootloader fix in a new fw soon. As people say we have a very new device. Good things come to those who wait
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Good news, thanks
Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
Hi new guy. It's very simple. All of the information can be found on the forums, as well as using google. If you can't be bothered to do a simple search, or read through stuff, then don't root your phone.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
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And besides, noobs can have the phone. Just don't root your phone, and come crying in the forums when something goes wrong, cause you don't bother reading up beforehand.
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Hello Xda,
I'm a new owner of a european XT910.
Former owner of a Nexus S.
What's with these Motorolas ? Everything seems very confusing...
1.Locked bootloader...
2.Specific fastboot needed to flash specific roms ?
3.What about recovery mode ? Backup's not working, storage mounting not working..
I will soon post a screenshot of my system's info.
I really think there should be a FAQ thread discussing all matters from CDMA-GSM differences, to different fastboots the phones are shipped with and how to get started on software modification on these babies.
Surely that's a noobie question but if the noobs can't have it, then the world can't have it.
Millions are in the forum but few are willing to get further in developing.
Lets help someone (like me) who wants to understand the pyramid of modding and developing on this phone e.g.
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Sounds like it would have made more sense to get answers to those questions prior to your purchase.
Great phone, locked down.
Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
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Welcome to the forums!
As i already stated, the droid razr is a great phone but is locked down with motos iron fist.
I purchased at launch in canada and was happy... was happy. Untill i started to see the news of the locked bootloader and other issues. Ive been a fan of moto phones since my first v3x and was pleasntly surprised to see an update to the line.
Like was said earlier, its been 6 months since launch and you probably should have done the research, but not everyone has the insight to do deep research about their next phone beyond the physical specs.
That said, moto has locked this thing down and unless you really need more than root its a whole different horse to ride when compared to others like htc, lg and samsung.
Moto basically marketed this thing as a business phone for the fashion crowd. And it is. A slim and fast, solidly built android powered guchi handbag. Not much more.
This is a disappointment. And one we are going to have to live with or find a device that's more friendly to the feint of heart.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
Most people here misunderstood me.
Asking nooby questions does not make one a noob.
I've been a computer programmer for years and I would like to contribute in the RAZR development, though I do not know how to start cause I was only mid-to-advanced user of mobile phones.
All I needed is someone to show me the way on this motorola. I'm not trying to make myself tiring to you though most people here should learn to show some respect and not snub people who ask.
As for "Searching" the forums, since the RAZR development is going slow, forum threads are also cruising at a low speed. So do not blame me for asking something that is not very clear to most "common" RAZR users and owners.
Friendly as hell.
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Now that I disagree with. A locked bootloader is undesirable, admittedly, but there's still tons of things you can do with the Razr. Custom ROMs? Check. Custom governor? Check. Custom I/O scheduler? Check. Overclock/underclock/undervolt? Check. I have all the above on my Razr. (Except for the governor, doesn't seem to work on Gummy)
Don't get me wrong. I wish Moto would unlock our bootloaders as well, but ultimately, what we are suffering from is a lack of developers. Kholk, kejar, J.Y.Daddy are doing their best, but how many things can they push out? Especially since the Razr isn't their dedicated phone.
The Razr is a good phone, don't let one single locked bootloader ruin the whole package. Although honestly, given the chance to change phones, I would (who wouldn't want the HTC One X?). But really, there are tons of things you can do with your phone as it is.
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Spectral thanks for joining this conversation. I've done a lot of research and already know that custom roms, governors and over/underclocking is possible.
Though it seems that device software differs from one phone to the other and I can't make up the differences. Maybe someone should start a thread regarding different Fastboots and to which devices they are installed to for example.
hi OP,
have u seen the Development forum? not the General forum.
there are tons of info to answer ur questions (sorry im not as capable) there. so u dont even need to search. just see the titles.
good luck.
Hi guys im planning to buy this phone, but does it has an unlocked bootloader? How good is developer support for this cellphone?
the bootloader is locked and with that you cannot load a fully working custom kernel thus there are not many dev involved.
Hope something improves in future...
Until then I statisfy my rom flashing sickness with my HD2
Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I would buy this. The Xperia play was not tat great in my opinion.
arturodelac said:
Would you recommend me buying this phone ? Or an xperia play?
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I recommend you the razr. Its a good phone overall especially the build quality.
No match with the play unless you are a heavy gamer.
I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
Of course we can use custom kernels. Just a short time remaining until the new kernel source will be released, then kexec will work with both cores and fully working custom roms will become available.
Shinare said:
I think you will find a positive answer for either device within its own forum.
So grain of salt aside, I like the Razr, but from a slightly technical person that likes to experiment with things, It was fun to flash a couple ROM's when I first got it and settled on one. After finding Eclipse thats what I've stuck to permanently. Its fast, its compact, and most importantly everything just works out of the box. So really, no more fun experimenting...
If you want to take your chances on some ICS leak that you may never be able to flash from in the future, or an ICS build over the old kernal with things not working or some things kinda working. I dunno... "fun"?
With no unlocked BL its seems that the development for this phone is somewhat castrated. Don't get me wrong, out of the many phones I tried, this one was the nicest as far as speed, screen, and touch/feel. Phone-wise anyway its the better. Development... not so much. We are all in here keeping our fingers crossed for one of two things... 1) Kholk gets his BL bypass working to where someone actually wants to develop for it but outlook not-so-good on that one, or 2) Motorola actually keeps their word for once and eventually gives us a BL unlock. (again "outlook not-so-good")
I just wish there were more fun things to do with our Razr like there are for other phones, Xperia Play included since you can unlock the BL with that, and just glancing in the development section of their forum can attest to that.
All that aside, as a Razr owner, I can recommend it as a very nice, advanced featured, smartphone that does everything I could ever dream of. heh
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Kholk is apparently waiting for th 3.0.8 source from motorola in order to get the second cpu working
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i know i posted up earlier about the red border. Everything is good now. I just now have questions about this phone and its development stages. Since for some reason i cant post in dev page. I have to ask here.
So i was half tempted to not get this phone simply because i browsed the threads and saw no real roms or kernals that do anything fancy. I come from an evo 3d and could flash a rom every single day if i wanted because there were so many. I know this phone is new how new im still not sure upon. I see a real lack of any development on here. The best you can get is turning your og into a nexus 4 and than have cm 10.1 with the downside of only 8gigs of storage period. Well that was the whole reason i did not just pick up the htc one x was because there was no expandable memory and at most you had 10g of internal storage and thats it! so whats going on here? I know alot about the scene and though i have no coding experience myself nor rom building experience. I do love to test roms and i really want a not a stock feel to the phone. Where is the overclocking, where is the transperent status bar, where is anything to make this phone really stick out from stock? Hell i was running jb 4.2 on my evo 3d. Now im stuck being back on ICS? How is this possible that there is not stable jb port to this phone that is properly working. I have 14 days to return this phone. And with people releasing roms that the camera does not work, and storage is crap, and no overclocking support, is it because this is not the phone i thought it could be? Am i not doing enough research. Im currently rooted, unlocked, and running nocturnal limited, and i still feel stock and still 4.04.
Is this phone going to be heavily dev supported like the evo 3d is still today or should i return it and get a phone like the htc one that actually has dev support. All the roms i have seen for this phone is almost complete garbage interms of what this phone should be capable of. And the idea of turning into a nexus 4 is the most idiotic thing i ever heard.... let me change my phone to be another phone? Who wanted that and why did they just not go and get the nexus 4? I may be ranting but i could have got the htc one for .99 as opposed to the $100 i paid to sign a contract with att. I want to know if i am really getting jipped here. Is this not the phone plenty rave about? If your on this site there is no way you want a stock feeling phone and thats what i feel we are getting. I donated to get the freegee app to find out there is no good roms therefor no need to unlock the bootloader so i can flash roms that are not here..........
please dont come at me like a hard a$$ and talk crap, im simply expressing an opinion and asking questions. I loved my evo3d and if i have to carry both around because my 3 year old phone is 10 times better than this optimus im going to be upset. I would just like someone to explain what is in the works with this phone, and if and when there will be some real dev support and why there is almost non at the moment. It sad when devs are still all over the 3d posting new roms everyday, and this one has 5 that are garbage?
thank you for your actual intelligent responses, and cant wait for some nerd raging on me for blasting this out like this. Im simply being real.
Try reading this forum for the answers to your questions. Then maybe sell your OG to someone who appreciates it and knows what to do with it. Sounds like you'd be better off with a SG3. Good luck.
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Wow.... I'll take your OG if you don't want it. Seriously, I will.
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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exactly the responses i was expecting lol.....
Its clearly obvious i have read the forums as i am rooted, unlocked with twrp and nocturnal limited rom... so thank you for pointing out how much i have not read.
As for the sg3...... well thats is just an over priced piece of trash everyone i know hates them.... so thanks but piss off...
as for your iphone comment... only mainstream looooooosers have iphones as they are for the dumb...
no you may not have my optimus if i do anything with it , it will go back to att and ill get a htc one x+ at least people are doing things or at least talking of things they are doing.
HTC has huge dev support and this being my first LG i knew it was going to take some getting used to. I was just hoping for a little more out of this highly praised machine. It is a great phone, i will not say its not. I just was expecting from such a great phone a huge dev following of which i do not see. I see about 5 different roms, a custom cwm touch recovery, and hmmm..... turning your optimus into a nexus.. For you thinking that i am bashing on lg and should give it away.... there is people here pretending there phones are different phones... "hey look i know it says lg but is totally a nexus!" I can download a launcher that makes my phone look like a windows phone.... but hmmmm how dumb is that? At the end of this rant, i was curious as to what anyone knows about the future of the development on this phone. Clearly you do not have answers because that would take thinking, your idiotic comments and replys did nothing to offer any sort of answer nor did it show your IQ being anywhere near that of a 10 year old..
I clearly posted i await your nerd rage and therefore clearly enjoy it, however this thread was not started with the sole intent of it being a bickering fest. I wanted some serious answers, and I tried to express myself and thoughts on this phone along with questions that involved the future of this phone.
I am a flashaholic, i love to make my phones the best they can be. I love anything custom! So if you wanna cry about my thoughts on the phone cry, ill bring you a tissue, otherwise offer some real insight into what this phone is all about, and hopefully where this phone might be heading. Otherwise take your trolling, crying , butthurt comments somewhere else, as they are just absolutely humorous to me, and ill will reply accordingly.
Thanks and hope to hear some real comments...
btw: i cant wait for the grammer police comments cause it seems if no one has something good to say, they just like to correct your grammer, sort of like "your a tool" "no, your a tool" and we can definatly take this back to 1st grade if you like.
Joecascio2000 said:
This is why I like having iOS around. That way we can weed out the idiots from android. You should really check out the iPhone. I hear it can make phone calls. You should like it.
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look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
by joecascio2000
I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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ripbabey said:
look what i found... while i was busy not reading btw
"have the AT&T LGOG and it's rooted with unlocked boot loader and is running a custom ROM called The Base. Devs are working hard to build a way to easily port any Nexus 4 ROM. They have CM10 working but are still working out the kinks before releasing it. CM9 and a stock AOSP rom are also in the works. The Base is a stock, rooted, and debloated ROM and it is already out. Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. Since it is very similar to the Nexus 4, once all the hard work is done building the device tree, roms are gonna come flying out."
by joecascio2000
I do believe its a great phone, but heavily relying on nexus devs to do all the dirty work, granted they are practically the same. Again i wanted to know whats up with this phone.
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And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
Joecascio2000 said:
And...? Everything I said is true.
LGOG is rooted and has unlocked bootloader
Has stock roms (The Base, Slick, Noc)
Devs are still working on a way to port Nexus 4 roms (I believe it has to do with building a device tree and obtaining source for JB kernel)
CM10 (an actual ROM, not the N4 conversion) is "almost" done (About 3 weeks ago a dev said it booted and they could hear the lock screen but couldn't see the display due to driver issues.
A dev was working on CM9 but I believe they stopped because there was no point in releasing an outdated ROM.
Development is going strong and everyday I see more developers move on over to it. - Fact (Development is a slow process. They have made huge progress in only a few months. This phone isn't like samsung. They are working from a locked down system with no source code. They are amazing for what they do. They are some of the best devs on XDA.)
Once we have on bootable ROM, which will happen, Roms will be coming out quickly.
So I guess the real question is, "Do you actually know how to read?"
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never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
gregk232 said:
Stop. Seriously, just stop right now.
If all of these features are important to you, and flashing a new rom everyday gives your life some meaning, then you made an idiotic move purchasing this phone.
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You sir..... Is your computer broken, are you stuck on my thread and only my thread which is preventing you from looking at anything else, instead of making a dumb rude comment? Stop trolling every thread and post that is on the site.... you talk about giving my life meaning and here you are telling me to stop it? Hmmmm who are you? I asked questions and my personal feelings on the phone thus far, and in no way bashed the phone or its following. I simply asked questions. I posted joes comment because as i read i actually found it useful. So thanks for peeking in this thread but your comments are best left in that pea sized thing rattling around in your giant head some might call a brain.. I asked questions in the Q and A forum......your comment was neither a q nor an a thus GTFO! XDA is where is got a lot of my EVO 3D questions answered and i respect this site. Its arseholes like you that make people scared to ask questions for fear of some ignorant jacka$$ trying to put them down.
I however can not and will not be intimidated, if i have done anything to violate the terms of this forum, please report me and have me banned. Your STOP IT attack was in no way useful.
SO..... STOP IT, JUST STOP IT!
ripbabey said:
never said it wasnt true, just was in response to your ignorant iphone comment as well as the learn to read comment. Stop nerd raging for a minute, how hard is it to answer the questions? I already made a comment on the cm10.1 in my op.....all of the stuff you listed in your comment i already did... I asked what is next? What do you think the future dev is? Will this actually have a strong dev following? Will there be any decent , stable, overclocked, tweaked roms to come to this phone.
Thank you for finally giving me a little more of an answer than a mean spirited remark. I am no idiot, i did not post anywhere in this forum newb questions on how to root my lg, or unlock it, or flash a recovery, or install a rom..... I wanted to know what is really going on with this phone. So thank you joe for actually answering my questions.
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Wish I had better news. We are all eagerly and (in)patiently waiting for the first release of non-stock roms. Unfortunately, it's just a waiting game. Right now it's LG's move and they are taking their sweet little time. We do have a strong dev following. They are lurking in the shadows. We are very fortunate that we have both an international version of this phone and also the Nexus 4. That gives us two pools where ROMs can be ported from. Just like the Nexus S, i9000, and Samsung Captivate. All of which are still going strong. It took time to get things setup for those phones and like I said we are at a disadvantage because LG isn't as "helpful" as Samsung. Development will take off one way or another, we just have to wait.
IMHO though, nobody should be complaining because stock LG is amazing. And the stock ROMs are perfect.
Dude....
Your entire post sounds like one big vagina monologue.
"There is not enough dev support for this phone..... I can't believe we don't have a stable JB ROM..... I want to flash a new rom every day....."
Waaa waaa waaa :crying::crying::crying::crying:
No one is intimidating you.
Just making the point that you obviously did not act like a rational consumer by purchasing a product that does not meet your expectations, then complain about it in the QA section.
Not sure why you needed to create this thread. Return the phone and get something else if you aren't happy with it. It's not rocket science, lol.
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Oh look, it's this thread again
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
chrisphoenix7 said:
"Ye best start believin' in troll threads... Yer in one."
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Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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gregk232 said:
Hahaha! F*****g brilliant!
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Yes! In before thread closed!:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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They wouldn't close this thread, it has been nothing but honest, intelligent, mature, informative discussion.
But honestly, this has been asked a lot... We are hoping development will pick up after the source is released and JB hits our device.
But there are no guarantees, it is kind of your fault for picking up a device (great as it may be) that doesn't have 20+ ROMs out for it, you should have looked here first and shied away from the device if development was so important.
Based on what we have heard from devs, the work is being done, it is slow going with no source and nobody wants to work on ICS when JB is coming so soon.
Also, one of the biggest problems here, you called what development we have seen released "garbage," most likely (hopefully) the devs can dismiss that statement as the angry rantings of somebody with a bad filter, but it is still terrible motivation to spur development further.
Work has gone into the development we have seen, it may not have quite the shock and awe factor you are looking for, but they are solid works.
It sounded like you were very unappreciative and then demanded more, maybe not your intention, but that is how it can be construed.
I'm not trying to bash you in any way, but the community does better when there is less... negativity.
Also, no need to be so defensive, you knew you would get the responses you did, should have just let them slide.
chrisphoenix7 said:
Guys, settle down please. Let's not turn this into the i777 forums. I'd rather not relive that.
This phone is too powerful to not be developed, but developing for ICS is pointless when JB is coming. There will be much more development. You must just be patient. But in all honesty, Samsung and HTC will probably always have more development, so if you are a flashaholic, I would go with the SIII.
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dood i agree the i777 forums was a nightmare with all the immaturity attitude around
I get the feeling OP is the kind of guy that complains when he gets free stuff.
As for getting a new phone, good riddance. You really didn't need to make this thread. A lot of us are waiting on custom ROMs and CM10 and all that. You don't see us whining about it like a little girl (no offense ladies )