ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
Your choice but a reasonably recent backup should be ok .
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
NO it backs up all bar EFS and Modem .
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Not relevant as you cannot backup without root.
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
YES
cwm = nandroid backup?
And more
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anthony001 said:
ive read in the other threads that we should be doing backup when flashing kernels.
how important is it to backup for just flashing a kernel? is it even worth it? Im gonna be flashing Siyah Kernel
I heard nandroid only backups phone settings? did i understand it correctly?
Is it better to root first before doing backup? or should I unroot my phone first?
Please tell me if I got it right
Titanium = app backup?
cwm = nandroid backup?
a bit offtopic but does anyone experience battery drainage when connected to wi-fi even when not doing anything like surfing etc.?
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Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
SirKunon said:
Nandroid backup makes images of yours phone partitions and saves them into separated files. Truly, I never needed to restore any backup, You doing this only for a precaution measures.
Titanium Backup stores only your .apk, their data and settings. Nandroid saves all and put it into safe place (including whole system).
It's good to have both of backups, but TB can also extract .apk from nandroid backup. In this case nandroid backup is much better.
OT: WiFi always draining your battery because of notification wakelocks and working antenna. Set your phone into energy saving mode, it should help.
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really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
anthony001 said:
really nandroid backups even apk? so lets say i have dino wars installed and fpse so will it also backup those? what about the saves will it also backup the saves? also when using fpse we have a file used to play games which i think is forbidden to write its name will it be backed up too?
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Everything in internal partitions system layout and .android secure partition on sdcard... just all you have got actually on your phones internal (system memory). Full backup including kernel, modem, system, apps and their data (saves, settings, etc.)
Of course if game save are stored in internal or external sd-card than its will NOT been stored into nandroid backup, but it remain on those sdcard(s) even after nandroid restore. Only formatting sdcard will remove those saves, data, etc. (also full factory reset with service code formats all phones partition including internal sccard).
If you know what a windows image backup then this works the same restores all .
But EFS and Modem .
Nandroid backup full working phone 10-am
Flash JB xxxx rom and it fails or dont like it .
Restore to 10-am full working phone Nandroid backup .
Modem and EFS stay on the phone the same .
Useful very i have done five Nandroid restores already to day after test modifications .
I also have copy of TB and Nandroid backups on PC just in case .
jje
Important thing is to restore backup on the same recovery (cwm) on which backup was make. If partition layout has changed after nandbacup you also cant restore it, phone will stuck on bootlogo.
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SO i made a backup with titanium backup of everything and manually made a copy of my internal sd. I flashed to 1.8.3 stock and then to the pudding enabled 2.3.4. What is the best way to get all of my stuff back? In the future, what is the best way to backup and restore everything easier? I have heard of this nandoid thing? What is that?
buckbomb56 said:
SO i made a backup with titanium backup of everything and manually made a copy of my internal sd. I flashed to 1.8.3 stock and then to the pudding enabled 2.3.4. What is the best way to get all of my stuff back? In the future, what is the best way to backup and restore everything easier? I have heard of this nandoid thing? What is that?
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just use titanium backup to restore it for now
Well, I understand that with a nandroid backup it will restore my phone to the exact same state? If I want to switch between roms in the future, is this the best way to maintain data across roms?
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Well, I understand that with a nandroid backup it will restore my phone to the exact same state? If I want to switch between roms in the future, is this the best way to maintain data across roms?
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i beleive nandroid is a full system backup so it may be better not familiar i use ttb
Titanium Backup - Backs up your Apps + Data
Nandroid Backup - Takes an image of your phone, which can be restored at any time. Essentially everything will be exactly the same when you restore the backup.
Are there any dangers but bricking the device ?
I had the random reboots issue and i gut my hardware replaced...If i unlock BL again and flash a ROM, is there any danger of getting the reboots again ?
nathan96 said:
Are there any dangers but bricking the device ?
I had the random reboots issue and i gut my hardware replaced...If i unlock BL again and flash a ROM, is there any danger of getting the reboots again ?
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There's no guarantee I suggest u do a Nandroid backup then u can flash the cm7 if things don't go vary well u can always restore ua backup
kanivier said:
There's no guarantee I suggest u do a Nandroid backup then u can flash the cm7 if things don't go vary well u can always restore ua backup
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What exactly is "nandroid" ? thankyou
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What exactly is "nandroid" ? thankyou
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A nandroid backup is a complete snapshot of your phone exactly the way it is now. Your internal storage is partitioned into sections (they're just called partitions,
appropriately). Those partitions include the system itself, system data and settings, user apps and data, etc.
It's everything that is currently one the phone. You can make as many changes after making a nandroid backup as you want. You can install apps, change settings, wipe the phone, even flash a new ROM. If you restore a nandroid backup, everything you've done since that backup is wiped out, and you will go back to exactly
what you had when you made the backup. As such, it can be used to:
a) Save yourself in the event that you break something, and need to go back to a working configuration, and
b) Save configurations that you like. If you flash different custom ROMs, then set them up how you like, you can nandroid backup each one, and switch between whenever you like.
Note that a nandroid backup is not the same thing as, say, a backup made with titanium backup. Those kinds of backups are meant for transferring apps and data between ROMs, or for saving data when you wipe everything on the phone.
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Hi
I want to install a costume Rom on my phone
but first I want to make a backup of my stock rom (just in case)
I found a backup option in the CWM app
so i need to know:
dose this option backs up only the Rom or will it back up the kernel also?
Are there better ways to backup the rom?
in general what does the "create a backup" option do? (in CWM in mean)
thanks in advance
best regards
backs up all but not the EFS and Modem
roostaamir said:
Hi
I want to install a costume Rom on my phone
but first I want to make a backup of my stock rom (just in case)
I found a backup option in the CWM app
so i need to know:
dose this option backs up only the Rom or will it back up the kernel also?
Are there better ways to backup the rom?
in general what does the "create a backup" option do? (in CWM in mean)
thanks in advance
best regards
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the backup option will backup every thing on you system and data partition but not the kernel and modem..
there is no better way than this..
correct me if I am wrong:
1-the backup options backs up my data (such as save data for games) too
2-if I want to restore to my stock firmware,this backup WON'T do it properly since it won't restore the kernel
roostaamir said:
correct me if I am wrong:
1-the backup options backs up my data (such as save data for games) too
2-if I want to restore to my stock firmware,this backup WON'T do it properly since it won't restore the kernel
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It backups everything including kernel except modem and efs. So if you restore it back you will have your stock kernel there
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roostaamir said:
correct me if I am wrong:
1-the backup options backs up my data (such as save data for games) too
2-if I want to restore to my stock firmware,this backup WON'T do it properly since it won't restore the kernel
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As Bala said Kernel is backed up..so I may be wrong here..but I read somewhere that kernel is not backed up..so anyways..you will have the stock kernel if I am wrong..
the games data is stored on your internal sdcard..so it wont be backed up..and in between if require a factory reset it will be lost..
thanks guys
you helped me so much (and fast)
and one more thing i remembered right now:
the backup will be a CWM flashable zip file.right?
roostaamir said:
thanks guys
you helped me so much (and fast)
and one more thing i remembered right now:
the backup will be a CWM flashable zip file.right?
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To restore you go to backup and restore and select restore(from internal or external sd card) depending on where the back up was created.
fast question
if u have read my other threads let me recall because i though i had fix my problem, but like an idiot i went into recovery without flashing cwm so i lost everything again.
So,
i have flash back stock honeycomb 3.2
when i try to restore a backup (that was made on 3.1), it goes down to 3.1 and crash when i try to update to 3.2 to then update to 4.0.4
so i decided to flash 4.0.4 (stock ICS from sammobile) and reinstall all my apps one by one
But,
i still have my backup, my ICS is now rooted and flashed with cwm
i want to know, if after installing all my apps, i go into recovery and try to do an advance restore of data only, will it work ?
am sorry to be a pain in the ass with all my questions, i couldnt find the anwser
I think the answers were there in your original thread but you are looking for an easier way to go. I am not sure there is one. Since the hard way requires restoring fully your honeycomb install you may as well try data restore from nandroid first, hopefully it works out well.
I'm not experienced in using nandroid backups for partial data restores, titanium is better suited for that. To me, nandroid is for full system restore.
So again, if all else fails the best option is to restore the honeycomb nandroid, make sure that the device is rooted, install titanium, run full backup, backup all files off of sd to your computer via usb (your nandroid, your photos, your titanium backups , etc) and then update back to the system you want. Once back to ICS you can install your apps, root, install titanium and restore data for the apps you need. Be careful with this, obviously there are compatibility issues between the two systems.
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muzzy996 said:
I think the answers were there in your original thread but you are looking for an easier way to go. I am not sure there is one. Since the hard way requires restoring fully your honeycomb install you may as well try data restore from nandroid first, hopefully it works out well.
I'm not experienced in using nandroid backups for partial data restores, titanium is better suited for that. To me, nandroid is for full system restore.
So again, if all else fails the best option is to restore the honeycomb nandroid, make sure that the device is rooted, install titanium, run full backup, backup all files off of sd to your computer via usb (your nandroid, your photos, your titanium backups , etc) and then update back to the system you want. Once back to ICS you can install your apps, root, install titanium and restore data for the apps you need. Be careful with this, obviously there are compatibility issues between the two systems.
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The thing is that i spent like 2 days doing all that and now am on ics with my apps installed, its mostly my saved games that i dont have and was looking for a way to restore them.
Nainconpetant said:
The thing is that i spent like 2 days doing all that and now am on ics with my apps installed, its mostly my saved games that i dont have and was looking for a way to restore them.
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The only way to restore only your apps is like the post above, you had to install titanium backup like i said in the PM i sended you, and then backup all your apps with titanium backup, save everything to your PC via USB cable and then install another ROM... so... i know it's very annoying and very hard.... but my opinion is to restore your nandroid backup (full system restore) download Titanium backup from google play, backup your data, and in case you deleted your nandroid, make a new one!!
But there could be compatibility problems when you backup your data what causes errors...
It's a pain in the ass to do it, but it's the only way i guess...
Bah, i dont feel like flashing again, ill start over my nfs hot pursuit, reckless getaway and jewel maze. i wasnt playing much with the other games installed
I remember that i did a nandroid backup cause i found it was more user friendly to create a full backup at the time i did it than with titanium.
Thanks for your help
Yah lessons learned. We've all learned them too . . nandroid is great for jumping between systems or for reverting to a clean one but it's not so great for restoring apps/data to or from differing systems; for that it's usually best to install apps clean and restore data via titanium.
I make it a habit now of doing both and saving both to an external device (either a usb flash drive or to my PC) prior to moving systems.
Can i use nandroid backups to switch systems
Like to switch back after trying a new rom without pc
If by nandroid you mean TWRP backups, then yes.
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
Yes a nandroid backup (aka twrp backup) saves a snapshot of the system in time so it doesn't matter what you do afterwards, once you restore the backup your device will go back to the same exact spot as it was the time when you'd taken the backup. Also when you often hear ppl say take backup before trying new update/rom/zip, this is exactly what they mean.
And yes you don't need pc as long as you can access your backup through otg USB/memory card etc.
Sammy4798 said:
Like flash rros and then use the backup to return to stock with all my files and apps?
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Take care to backup the system image and not system. And use the same version of TWRP for backing up and restoring. Both these are not a must but to be on the safer side.