MMS Debacle/Debate/Laughter/Annoyance
Apps related but Development related for Future Builds, Move if Needed
"Error in Server Response" ***THIS APPLIES TO THE TOUCHWIZ MMS.APK VERSION***
It has been posted numerous times and people still numerous times have had problems & been easily dis-missed with the 10 or so work arounds suggested that still inevitably don't work for some select few out there. I have posted attempted possible solutions in the Apps section before & troubleshooted my own MMS problems for the past 2 months till blue in the face. I wanted to share everything I have tried and everything I have noticed in an effort that maybe a Developer out there can correct the issue for us.
Brief summary to Developers for what I think is the problem or solution: I believe in order for outgoing MMS picture messages to work you have to either A: Have the MMS.apk properly re-format the phone number that it pulls from the contacts list by removing the dashes and maybe adding the 1 in front. MMS has always worked without the 1 or the +1 in front for me.
B: Have the Contacts.apk or Contacts list designed so that it only saves phone numbers without dashes in them. I think from some of the recent Contact.apk's I messed with that current builds are not automatically putting dashes in anymore when phone numbers are saved so that may be helping alot of people.
Now onto what I have noticed past several months:
Many have dissed the poor people with failing MMS picture messaging by simply suggesting removing dashes, adding 1, adding +1, trying Handcent, Chomp SMS, Go SMS. etc etc. Also those same people said MMS works fine or works fine for them. However I question how many of those people are using Contacts saved to their actual phone as myself as it appears if your using your Google account or your SIM card to save your contacts to than this issue does not seem to exist. Also, removing dashes is not an option for Phone saved contacts or not in my current ROM build. Some newer ROM Contacts builds looks like it will let you save numbers without dashes now. Mine does not with Phone contacts. People wiht Google contacts probably did not have to worry about that as they could edit within Google. It specifically exists for people and myself with Contacts saved to their phone who may or may not be using their SIM or Google account to save their contacts to. I tried various APN and separate MMS apn settings with no difference.
I have pulled and tried just about every MMS.apk from AOSP and various froyo builds. Always Handcent, Chomp, Go SMS formatted and worked perfectly for MMS picture messaging. AOSP always worked for me but I had other issues with attaching Audio that caused force closes. propably due to my aging Obsidian V4.2 ROM. My issue was on previous build ROMs as well and been on my ROM since freshly loaded up to now where you cant recognize it is Obsidian anymore with all my mods. SMS always worked period. MMS always received perfectly for me. MMS always sent perfectly as long as I manually typed in the number without a 1 or +1 needed. MMS always worked when replying to an already received SMS/MMS. Only specifically when selecting Contacts to create a SMS/MMS does the "Error In Server Response" exist leading one to believe that its a formatting problem somewhere between MMS.apk and Contacts.apk when the softwares transfer over the phone number/contact information to create the message header.
This has been the only issue I would love fixed short of using alternative Handcent, Chomp, Go etc. It is also the reason why I have held off flashing newer builds as it is some work to re-setup my entire customized phone and still have the problem remain as I have been reading in recent Team Whiskey Nero v5 builds still.
Maybe I'm retarded or maybe I'm onto something but I felt I should put my efforts out there for developers to examine and also to take a Users poll of MMS issues regarding which people are using various ways to save their Contacts....SIM, Phone, Google account to pin point the cause.
Thank You for reading, sharing, and looking into this. If I had programming skills I would rewrite the damn MMS.apk myself since every other 3rd party seems to work and format the numbers properly to send MMS without issue.
MMS Issues
God knows I've tried just about all the ROMs in the forum and unless it's either the stock rom or one of the leaked ones, Touchwiz MMS has never worked. If I used the custom ROMs MMS suite it's fine. As soon as I mod it for Touchwiz MMS it pukes.
ive tested almost every rom and i always have my contacts save through sim and my mms is flawless every time.
I've had this issue a few times. I do NOT save my contacts to phone or sim, they are ONLY in my Google account. I finally went and edited all my contacts on the Google Contacts website to remove the dashes and 1s, and now it works fine every time.
raduque said:
I've had this issue a few times. I do NOT save my contacts to phone or sim, they are ONLY in my Google account. I finally went and edited all my contacts on the Google Contacts website to remove the dashes and 1s, and now it works fine every time.
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Same story here. Removed the dashes and now MMS messages send perfectly.
As a way of troubleshooting why it seems to works for some people and not at all for others (even when considering the no-dash, no-paren formatting), it might make sense for people to post their configuration:
Think I'm interested in learning if people who are having this problem are
* syncing to Google,
* not syncing with Google,
* if they are typing in a phone number,
* if they are looking up a contact by name,
* if they are replying to a sent message,
* and so on.
My thought is that if we provide a little detail about each configuration - especially those that aren't working, that we might be able to figure out what's really going on.
Thanks.
Moved of: Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant Android Development
To: Samsung Vibrant > Vibrant General
So far seems the majority of people are using the "Cloud" Google/Gmail Account to store their contacts and do not have the "Error In Server Response" problem. Few SIM card saving people said they have an issue but most of those have always seemed to work. Nobody has voted saving to their Phones as of yet....
Mainly cause SIM only saves basic information...the Name & the phone number so little room for error in storing the Contact data.
Contacts saved to Phone can save pictures, addresses, e-mails etc etc so I think because of that ability to save additional information it affects formatting somehow when the number is pulled and transferred over to the MMS messaging when creating a new picture message to send.
Seems like best answer for everyone is to use their Gmail/Google account to save & edit their Contacts if saving to Phone keeps causing the problem. Which is probably what I will do but have been avoiding because I do not want to see all my Gmail contacts and e-mail contacts on the phone at the same time hence why I liked keeping a clean Contacts list primarily on my phone.
***I Love all the people that voted I'm retarded
feelx77, it has nothing to do where the contact is saved, and EVERYTHING to with whether or not there are dashes in the phone number.
A phone number with dashes, ie: 000-000-0000 = "error in server response", every time, no exceptions.
A phone number without dashes, ie: 0000000000 = works fine.
Ah, but it does matter where it saved because certain locations willl or will not let you edit the dashes out and/or because SIM already saves the contact information in a basic information format without pictures, addresses, e-mails etc etc. Which is stated in my lenghty long post. Removing the dashes is already a well known solution but depending on where contacts are saved it may not allow the editin gor it may still not work with or without adding the 1 or +1 as well.
I'm full aware of the dashes removal trick. Hence why I recommended that maybe the MMS.apk (Touchwiz Version Messaging Program) or the Contacts.apk that hands over the contacts header to the MMS.apk should be rewritten/reprogrammed to automatically remove dashes in the phone number header regardless of what saved source was used IE: Gmail, SIM, or Phone.
Also this "Error In Server Response" is strictly in regards to MMS (Picture Messaging when creating a new picture message and selecting existing Contacts from within the Touchwiz Messaging app. This is not in regards to standard SMS (text messaing)
Clarified further?
BUMP
Its been a while so thought to BUMP for more poll statistics etc.
I finally caved last month and just moved my contacts over to my Google/Gmail account and as expected, as already known, I've had no problems sending MMS that way or off my SIM card. Just gave up trying to fix or get MMS Picture Messaging to work with having my contacts saved to the phone. Only saved contacts saved to the phones memory always returned the "Error In Server Response" when selcting a contact in the drop down in the messaing app.
Over all I'm going to like using Google/Gmail saved contacts better, was just avoiding as I was too lazy to port them all over and the error or issue should not have existed in the first place using phone saved contacts.
Just wanted to share, and BUMP this thread for anyone still having issues or wanting to vote in the poll. Laterz...
I have been using "SMS popup" on my android phones for years now. Never had a problem until I installed it on this new Rezound. The SMS popup comes up when a new text comes in, it just doesnt pull up the person's profile photo as it's supposed to. It's got to be an HTC/Sense issue. I've used SMS popup on AOSP, Samsung Touchwiz, and Team Hacksung's ICS port for the Galaxy S; all of which funtioned properly.
I know I can get handcent but I really like the way this HTC messaging app looks (and its ad-free, unlike handcent). And SMS popup is such a simple way to accomplish the popup on incoming texts and still allow me to use the manufacturer's messaging app.
Has anybody else run into this problem or have any suggestions?
Thanks!
Do you have your contacts linked? Maybe it doesn't know which one to grab...
Alternatively go with Go SMS which is free and does pop up.
MrSmith317 said:
Do you have your contacts linked? Maybe it doesn't know which one to grab...
Alternatively go with Go SMS which is free and does pop up.
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Some contacts are linked, some arent. Either way, neither contact photos shows up.
The way my contacts are set up is, I have a google gmail contacts. None of those have any photos in them. Then I also let facebook sync my friends list to my contact list. Some facebook friends also have a google gmail contact equivalent. Those are the ones that are linked.
This is the same way I've always done my contacts on all my other android phones and it's never been a problem. This HTC phone is the first time I've ran across this problem. It's like the SMS popup is calling for a contact photo, but the HTC version of the contact app is calling it by a different name.
Weird, SMS popup works just fine for me pulling up the contact pic using sense etc (innefilibis ROM if that matters)
By the way, I used Handcent for years (with the ads blocked) but this is the first phone I like the stock SMS so much (with red theme bubbles) I didn't even bother installing it.
Hey, folks. I'm new, obviously.
I recently rooted and s-offed my LTEVO. I installed TWRP 2.6.3.0 and CM10.1 Stable (I also installed the exFAT fix). The problem I'm having and that I'm reading a lot of people are having is with MMS. I'm not sure if group messaging falls into MMS or SMS but I can neither send/receive picture or media messages, nor can I SEND group messages (although I can receive them). I'm not sure what's going on behind the scenes, whether there's a fix that I just haven't found (I have done extensive searching/trolling before making a profile to ask this question) or if this is a common issue which may have been resolved in newer builds. Essentially, I was wicked pumped when I found out that I could receive group messages from people because the stock, unrooted LTEVO would receive "multimedia messages" from everyone participating in the conversation individually instead of all within the same thread or whatever you wanna call it. But, as I've come to find out, I can't actually participate in these group sessions, I can only SEE them organized within one text thread (which is still better than stock, but disappointing that it doesn't take one seemingly essential step further). Also, I thought it was just crappy Sprint service, but it seems that I can't send or receive multimedia messages (that aren't in text form). I was excited, again, to see that the preview of the image I was going to send was minimally compressed, if at all. I was sick of sending people screenshots of blurry, illegible caca, but again this feature falls short and now I can't actually send or receive any form of media.
Anyway, any help would be greatly appreciated. I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong, or maybe what I'm just NOT doing right. At any rate, if anyone could shed some light on my unfortunate situation that'd be stellar. I'm forced to use Voxer for the time being.
I'm having the same problem. Any assitance is welcome!
I can't say I completely understand your issue but will give an answer with my best guesstimate as to a fix.
You are trying to group messages with others that have iPhones. iPhones natively send texts as mms while android natively sends as sms. Hence your problem (I think).
You need to use a third party messaging app. There are a couple that handle this but I use Go Sms Pro. It allows you to send and receive texts all while staying in the group without splitting the messages.
Once you install go sms pro you need to change a few settings in the app (you can find the correct group settings on Google easily) and disable the notifications from the stock messaging app (so you don't get multiple notifications for one text).
Hope this is what you were asking about as it is an issue for a lot of people.
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Hello, I am looking for an app that can actually remove me from a group message so that I do not receive tons of useless texts that end up using my data. Currently I use Google's Messenger as my main texting app, as we all know the stock one is terrible. This app works great and I love it, however when I get flooded with MMS it does not seem to know how to react and then refuses to send any SMS. Now I am also up to download another texting app if someone knows one that handles MMS better, I have tried Textra in the past however I kept recieving a notification that said something about my MMS APN but I never touched anything in Textra's settings to break that because it did work for a while. I am open to other options if someone has any ideas. Thanks
Handcent it's pretty reliable but has ads. I like hoverchat as well.
I've been attempting to use Signal as my default SMS app for the convenience of not switching between two different apps for messages. It mostly works fine, but as the title says, if I send a long SMS that needs to be split into multiple messages, it always fails to send. I'm on US Cellular, if that matters. It doesn't have an issue with this functionality in the default app (Google's Messages) or the other third party SMS app I tend to use, Pulse SMS from Luke Klinker. It also doesn't have any options to convert long SMS to MMS, as some apps do.
Googling for the issue, I was able to find some similar problems for specific model of phones from a few years ago, but that had all appeared to have been reported on and patched at that time.
Is anyone else using Signal on their V30? If so, can you successfully send a long text message?
If anyone has any suggestions or anything, let me know. Otherwise I'll try to report it to the Signal team soon.