Complete noob questions! (be gentle) - Barnes & Noble Nook Tablet

So, I am looking at getting a Off the shelf nook tablet, and want to build a SD card to run cm7 or cm9 from it. but i have questions on apps, compatibility, speed and overclocking
1) the most important to me is the apps. if i build the SD cm7 boot card, and boot from it will :
a)google play be able to install and work with it?
b)will there still be apps missing because of the generic build.prop file
c)is there a way to export a build.prop from a same size (screen density) similar cpu/gpu and import it to make missing apps work ?
d)failing question c is there any way to get every app's apk file for the nook device ? (ie a google play link to apk ?)
2) on a class 10 sd card's fast enough to still be "snappy" ?
3) on sd cards, UHS class 1 capable?
4) i saw a overclocking img that can be dropped on top of the stock cm7... the question i have is how far is considered normal for overclocking success? meaning, 100mhz is not worth the time, 300mhz over would be a nice boost but what are the chances of getting 300mhz stable for plugged in gaming.
5) codecs play a lot in playback of 720p mkv and mp4 files.... how well does the stock cm7 image play moderate bitrate 720p rips ?
6) cm9.... how usable ? i need it to be idiot proof for the wife... if its "touchy"... i will opt for cm7...
7) cm7 perm install... sooo many links, broken links, private files, multiple images with different caveats... and of course the issue with build.prop... any recent updates and less link-happy guides that dont require reading all 250 pages to make sure there is not a secret sauce img file update that doesn't faff your device? and how stable ... is stable ???
thoughts ??? help???

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I'm still a noob myself. But I purchased a 16gb NT last week, and within about 20 minutes had it up, rooted, and running CM7 from the internal memory card.
The process isnt difficult, and CM7 Seems to work well, HD video playback is fluid, and mostly glitch free. The Play store seems to work fine (Cant download chrome for Android, but Dolphin Browser HD seems fine!)
Sound input/output works fine, voice search, ect.
There are some (Quite minor, IMHO) bugs with CM7, but I wouldn't call it "unuseable"
CM9, which I also tried, had more ... issues.. Sleep of death unless underclocked, no HD video playback, sound input not working.
I'll link the guide, and the Support thread I used for my CM7 install.
I also, during one of my "oh crap, I bricked it" moments (Dont mess with ROM managers recovery.. espeically half awake.) Ran CM7 from SD, It seemed snappy enough, but I only used it to copy/replace a few files that I needed so I cant give a full report.
This is the guide I used
This is the support thread.
Hope this helps!

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maxxcool7421 said:
So, I am looking at getting a Off the shelf nook tablet, and want to build a SD card to run cm7 or cm9 from it. but i have questions on apps, compatibility, speed and overclocking
1) the most important to me is the apps. if i build the SD cm7 boot card, and boot from it will :
a)google play be able to install and work with it?
b)will there still be apps missing because of the generic build.prop file
c)is there a way to export a build.prop from a same size (screen density) similar cpu/gpu and import it to make missing apps work ?
d)failing question c is there any way to get every app's apk file for the nook device ? (ie a google play link to apk ?)
2) on a class 10 sd card's fast enough to still be "snappy" ?
3) on sd cards, UHS class 1 capable?
4) i saw a overclocking img that can be dropped on top of the stock cm7... the question i have is how far is considered normal for overclocking success? meaning, 100mhz is not worth the time, 300mhz over would be a nice boost but what are the chances of getting 300mhz stable for plugged in gaming.
5) codecs play a lot in playback of 720p mkv and mp4 files.... how well does the stock cm7 image play moderate bitrate 720p rips ?
6) cm9.... how usable ? i need it to be idiot proof for the wife... if its "touchy"... i will opt for cm7...
7) cm7 perm install... sooo many links, broken links, private files, multiple images with different caveats... and of course the issue with build.prop... any recent updates and less link-happy guides that dont require reading all 250 pages to make sure there is not a secret sauce img file update that doesn't faff your device? and how stable ... is stable ???
thoughts ??? help???
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1.
a) yes
b) yes
c) yes you can edit build prop (many threads) you'll never get everything on any single device
d) no nor any other device
2. I don't find anything above class 4 faster except when writing to it from pc
3. ?
4. As you have noticed at this time most roms are still on the edge (they are constantly being improved), I would not push them with overclocking. You'll pay a price for little gain!
5. ?
6. Even the stock software is not idiot proof! (my opinion)
7. ?
The question marks are things I can't or at least didn't answer. I'm sorry but you have a task ahead of you. As you will see with time, rom XYZ operates perfectly for me and when you flash it you have a brick.
Any modification to your nook you should weigh and accept that possibility. Anything can and will happen.
The folks here on XDA can do anything. Sometimes others don't feel that way but the right person has not put in their two cents at the time of that decision.
Read this thread before you begin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826516
Good Luck!

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maxxcool7421 said:
So, I am looking at getting a Off the shelf nook tablet, and want to build a SD card to run cm7 or cm9 from it. but i have questions on apps, compatibility, speed and overclocking
1) the most important to me is the apps. if i build the SD cm7 boot card, and boot from it will :
a)google play be able to install and work with it?
b)will there still be apps missing because of the generic build.prop file
c)is there a way to export a build.prop from a same size (screen density) similar cpu/gpu and import it to make missing apps work ?
d)failing question c is there any way to get every app's apk file for the nook device ? (ie a google play link to apk ?)
2) on a class 10 sd card's fast enough to still be "snappy" ?
3) on sd cards, UHS class 1 capable?
4) i saw a overclocking img that can be dropped on top of the stock cm7... the question i have is how far is considered normal for overclocking success? meaning, 100mhz is not worth the time, 300mhz over would be a nice boost but what are the chances of getting 300mhz stable for plugged in gaming.
5) codecs play a lot in playback of 720p mkv and mp4 files.... how well does the stock cm7 image play moderate bitrate 720p rips ?
6) cm9.... how usable ? i need it to be idiot proof for the wife... if its "touchy"... i will opt for cm7...
7) cm7 perm install... sooo many links, broken links, private files, multiple images with different caveats... and of course the issue with build.prop... any recent updates and less link-happy guides that dont require reading all 250 pages to make sure there is not a secret sauce img file update that doesn't faff your device? and how stable ... is stable ???
thoughts ??? help???
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CM7 beta internal is the only way to go at this time, atleast for my use. Reading, netflix, surfing and most games. Easy to install and very stable. Just follow the instructions given in Celtic's post and you shouldn't have any problems. Good luck.
Sent from my Nook Tablet using xda premium

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Thanks everyone, i bought a 16bg nook tablet (for the 1gb ram) and booted from the SD successfully. but now have a couple more questions i will put in a new post.. cheers!

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maxxcool7421 said:
Thanks everyone, i bought a 16bg nook tablet (for the 1gb ram) and booted from the SD successfully. but now have a couple more questions i will put in a new post.. cheers!
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You don't really need a class 10 card. The best card you could use would be a Sandisk class 4. The class 10 is probably going to give you problems down the road if you're running CM7 off it.

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Tel864 said:
You don't really need a class 10 card. The best card you could use would be a Sandisk class 4. The class 10 is probably going to give you problems down the road if you're running CM7 off it.
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oh ? details please ?

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class 10 cards are for like...video recording, i.e. lots of data read/write at high speeds...for normal functionality, they are, in my experience often slower and buggy
stick to a class 4 card

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lag0matic said:
I'm still a noob myself. But I purchased a 16gb NT last week, and within about 20 minutes had it up, rooted, and running CM7 from the internal memory card.
The process isnt difficult, and CM7 Seems to work well, HD video playback is fluid, and mostly glitch free. The Play store seems to work fine (Cant download chrome for Android, but Dolphin Browser HD seems fine!)
Sound input/output works fine, voice search, ect.
There are some (Quite minor, IMHO) bugs with CM7, but I wouldn't call it "unuseable"
CM9, which I also tried, had more ... issues.. Sleep of death unless underclocked, no HD video playback, sound input not working.
I'll link the guide, and the Support thread I used for my CM7 install.
I also, during one of my "oh crap, I bricked it" moments (Dont mess with ROM managers recovery.. espeically half awake.) Ran CM7 from SD, It seemed snappy enough, but I only used it to copy/replace a few files that I needed so I cant give a full report.
This is the guide I used
This is the support thread.
Hope this helps!
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Am I dumb !?!??!
I go to rom manager, it asks a question on which rom manger to install, not sure which one to pick (i assume 2.2.x) but in either case when i go to "install rom" and select the zip file. it reboots to a splat and tells me to call B&n ....
??
Guidence you have CWM on screen with the downloaded update zip archive on your sd card, Follow these simple steps
ME: istalled to a sd card abd booted from it right now
Guide: 1. Goto install zip from sdcard
Me: go to apps > rom manager > install rom from sd card
Guide: 2. Choose zip from sdcard ( if CWM hasn't recognized your SD card you need to eject it and re insert it once or twice, sometimes you need to go to mounts and unmount SD, pop it out and back in then select mount sd)
Me: done
Guide: 3. choose the CM7-TEAM-B-BETA1-signed.zip
ME: selected
Guide: 4. scroll down and select Yes - Install CM7-TEAM-B-BETA1-signed.zip
Me: done
Guide: 5. sit back for a couple of minutes while the installation is carried out
Me: splat on reboot...
do i need to sign into the android market and install a recovery tool ? there is wording to that when selecting which version of recovery ...
That’s CM7 installed, next you need to prepare the rest of the device

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maxxcool7421 said:
Am I dumb !?!??!
I go to rom manager, it asks a question on which rom manger to install, not sure which one to pick (i assume 2.2.x) but in either case when i go to "install rom" and select the zip file. it reboots to a splat and tells me to call B&n ....
??
Guidence you have CWM on screen with the downloaded update zip archive on your sd card, Follow these simple steps
ME: istalled to a sd card abd booted from it right now
Guide: 1. Goto install zip from sdcard
Me: go to apps > rom manager > install rom from sd card
Guide: 2. Choose zip from sdcard ( if CWM hasn't recognized your SD card you need to eject it and re insert it once or twice, sometimes you need to go to mounts and unmount SD, pop it out and back in then select mount sd)
Me: done
Guide: 3. choose the CM7-TEAM-B-BETA1-signed.zip
ME: selected
Guide: 4. scroll down and select Yes - Install CM7-TEAM-B-BETA1-signed.zip
Me: done
Guide: 5. sit back for a couple of minutes while the installation is carried out
Me: splat on reboot...
do i need to sign into the android market and install a recovery tool ? there is wording to that when selecting which version of recovery ...
That’s CM7 installed, next you need to prepare the rest of the device
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Right, sounds like you messed something up a bit trying to use ROM manager. I always install my roms from a CWM SD card.
First, lets try the simple solution.
Boot your CWM SD
Install update from SD card
From the CWM main menu, and choose "Wipe data/Factory reset"
Also from the main menu, choose, "Wipe Cache"
Next, go to "advanced" and choose "wipe dalvik cache"
Now, go back to the main menu, choose install zip from sd, choose zip from sd, and install your
CM7 Zip.
If your CM7 did not include the gapps, you'll also want to install thoes as well (That will give you google play and other google base apps)
Now you should be able to reboot into your new CM7 install -- if not, hold the power button down untill the system powers off, and try booting again.
Post your results!
EDIT::::
I just realized it looks like you're booting from CM7, SD version. If that's the case, instead, you need to make yourself a bootable CWM recovery card. I keep one near my NT at all times as it allows me to create backups of the entire sytem before mucking about, and makes installing new ROM's a snap!
In order to make your own CWM card, format your current SD card to wipe it out,
then follow my last post Here
That should get you a bootable CWM SD card, from there you'll want to copy over your CM7 zip file, and, if your CM7 image dosent contain the gapps, the gapps I linked in the above post (Thanks Veronica for hosting!!!)
Hope this helps!

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lag0matic said:
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Right, sounds like you messed something up a bit trying to use ROM manager. I always install my roms from a CWM SD card.
First, lets try the simple solution.
Boot your CWM SD
Install update from SD card
From the CWM main menu, and choose "Wipe data/Factory reset"
Also from the main menu, choose, "Wipe Cache"
Next, go to "advanced" and choose "wipe dalvik cache"
Now, go back to the main menu, choose install zip from sd, choose zip from sd, and install your
CM7 Zip.
If your CM7 did not include the gapps, you'll also want to install thoes as well (That will give you google play and other google base apps)
Now you should be able to reboot into your new CM7 install -- if not, hold the power button down untill the system powers off, and try booting again.
Post your results!
EDIT::::
I just realized it looks like you're booting from CM7, SD version. If that's the case, instead, you need to make yourself a bootable CWM recovery card. I keep one near my NT at all times as it allows me to create backups of the entire sytem before mucking about, and makes installing new ROM's a snap!
In order to make your own CWM card, format your current SD card to wipe it out,
then follow my last post Here
That should get you a bootable CWM SD card, from there you'll want to copy over your CM7 zip file, and, if your CM7 image dosent contain the gapps, the gapps I linked in the above post (Thanks Veronica for hosting!!!)
Hope this helps!
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it is bricked. /sigh/ i knew this would not be as easy as everyone claimed.
it wont come out of recovery ..
has errors in the cwm recovery page :
cant mount /cache/recovery/log
cant open /cache/recovery/log
cant mount /cache/recovery/last_log
cant open /cache/recovery/last_log
loading the cm-7-team-b-beta1-signed.zip from the install says complete but never gets past the recovery boot
#[email protected]#$#@#[email protected]#[email protected]#$

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maxxcool7421 said:
it is bricked. /sigh/ i knew this would not be as easy as everyone claimed.
it wont come out of recovery ..
has errors in the cwm recovery page :
cant mount /cache/recovery/log
cant open /cache/recovery/log
cant mount /cache/recovery/last_log
cant open /cache/recovery/last_log
loading the cm-7-team-b-beta1-signed.zip from the install says complete but never gets past the recovery boot
#[email protected]#$#@#[email protected]#[email protected]#$
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Dont give up!
I completely -trashed- my partition tables. (Unfortunately, wiping out my serial # in the process, no more B&N factory rom for me, but I only wanted it to root anyhow)
Took me a few days, but I got it working again.
If you need, feel free to add me on skype at lag0matic ((just tell me who you are!))

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See below for my answers....
1) the most important to me is the apps. if i build the SD cm7 boot card, and boot from it will :
a)google play be able to install and work with it? - installed and works fine
b)will there still be apps missing because of the generic build.prop file - can't get chrome but Dolphin works fine.
c)is there a way to export a build.prop from a same size (screen density) similar cpu/gpu and import it to make missing apps work ? unknown
d)failing question c is there any way to get every app's apk file for the nook device ? (ie a google play link to apk ?)
2) on a class 10 sd card's fast enough to still be "snappy" ? - Class 4's work best with NT...the NT seem to have issues with class 10's.
3) on sd cards, UHS class 1 capable? - unknown
4) i saw a overclocking img that can be dropped on top of the stock cm7... the question i have is how far is considered normal for overclocking success? meaning, 100mhz is not worth the time, 300mhz over would be a nice boost but what are the chances of getting 300mhz stable for plugged in gaming. - I don't overclock it CM7 works fine for me.
5) codecs play a lot in playback of 720p mkv and mp4 files.... how well does the stock cm7 image play moderate bitrate 720p rips ? HD video works find in CM7. CM9/10 are still WIP. Dev are working hard updating the releases.
6) cm9.... how usable ? i need it to be idiot proof for the wife... if its "touchy"... i will opt for cm7...CM7 beta is stable...the beta version fixed a wifi issue that the alpha version had. CM9 looks good...some issues yet with videos and SODs' I haven't tried CM10 yet.
7) cm7 perm install... sooo many links, broken links, private files, multiple images with different caveats... and of course the issue with build.prop... any recent updates and less link-happy guides that dont require reading all 250 pages to make sure there is not a secret sauce img file update that doesn't faff your device? and how stable ... is stable ??? CM7 beta is very stable. Follow Celticweb's instructions. I've done both the sd version and the internal version.
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