Why is it more apps are being developed for iOS and not android?? I personally think this sucks considering phones with android are dominating the smartphone market e.g android currently runs on Samsung phones, HTC phones, LG phones, Motorola phones, ZTE phones, Huawei phones as well as tablets such as Acer, Nexus 7, Galaxy Tab, HP Touchpad etc. I just get the feeling android is being left out. IOS runs on the iPhone and iPad and that's it....doesn't make sense to me.
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Agreed. Fortunately I have all the apps that I need
Its because if you make a app on iOS it only has to really work on 2 or 3 devices which makes testing and making bug free much easier.
With android there are so many devices it can be hard to debug across all device and screen sizes etc etc.
For 'simpler' apps its not a issue but with bigger more complexed apps it can be a bigger issue and thus far more work for the dev
Apparently over 40% of IOS Apps have never even been downloaded once so I think the word Shovelware certainly applies.
Its still the largest single device out there, one phone and one tablet. I imagine it makes dev work easier, sort of like building a complex website that only has to work in one browser. Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Plus the way the media talks about the iPhone all the time, many probably think it has a huge majority of the market share.
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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Yeah, that's right. In fact, I never seen an Google commercial on TV, and many people don't know about Android. However, if you ask them "Do you know the iPhone/iPad?" surely the answer will be "yes... it's cool"
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There are some Nexus 7 commercials on these days, and back before Verizon got the iPhone they ran quite a few commercials with the OG Droid and Droid X. The iPhone is in nearly every new movie when a cell phone is shown. Its ironic because for years Apple embraced being different than the mainstream majority of whatever product they were trying to sell. Now the iPad/iPhone is about as mainstream as you can get since its everywhere.
What about the android shop in California....that must be the only store dedicated to an OS lol
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Once Google opens a nexus store in every big city in the world and has more commercials, sues the heck out of everybody and mocks Apple then they will be more popular. Oh yea there are ups and down on both platforms. Apple charges 99 bucks a year to develop apps and publish them while android only charges 25 bucks. But like said above there are too many androids from 3.5 inch 800 megahertz processors to giant 4.8 inch phones with a quad core cpu. The galaxy note is 5.3" GEEZUS
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apple smooth and no laggy
NicoJanuar said:
apple smooth and no laggy
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And JellyBean isn't?
NicoJanuar said:
apple smooth and no laggy
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Iphones and iPads are just overpriced ****e imo! They all look and feel the same, layout has been the same since day 1, their not very attractive, specs are a joke (4s is EXACTLY the same as the 4 just added a dual core 800mhz CPU and a joke piece of software called siri, which doesn't work half the time) and they have a cheek to charge £599 for a beefed up version of the iPhone 4!!! You must be kidding right??
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I just picked up a Galaxy S3 and it cost roughly the same as a new iphone. Apple appeals to a broad consumer base as any idiot can figure it out, and most people only use their phones to talk, text, facebook, angry birds, etc anyway. They're usually stable, and just work. Android, however, claims the cake because it doesn't lock you into any single hardware manufacturer, and has the open-source backing. It just so happens that since the tv is lovestruck by apple products, most people clamor to apple cause they saw it on tv, and since apple has the outspoken user base it does (aka fanboys), it popularly perceived that ios is the most popular platform. And with that, most entrepreneurs are going to go with the platform they feel their products will get the most exposure on, which leads to higher revenue. Econ 101
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
One Topmost reason why Apps are more developed for iOS than Android:
The high-rated, most popular and mostly downloaded apps in Android suffers PIRACY ISSUE which is not acceptable to the developers as it incurs the developers a huge loss. Although it also happens with iOS apps, but their piracy rate is not that high as Android.
Also we must be thankful to the developers that in spite of these issues, they still develop good apps for us and make Android a better OS.
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I think you pretty much nailed it. Android being based on linux, and an 'open' system, alot of linux users/hackers use it, and there for do not want to pay for software, as with their computer operating systems. Now dont get me wrong, some people do pay for software, but if you can find a free alternative, or even better just create your own, why would you pay for it ?
With Apple products, basicly morons are buying it because they are told to, they think it is cool, all thier dumb ass friends have them, and so any software that is needed for it, they will pay through the nose for, just like their devices they have to upgrade before they have finished paying off the last one.
Forgive my extreme dis-like for Apple products. I just really do not like them.
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Nah dude I feel ya. You get the same (for the most part) applications for less to nothing, and if it doesn't have the exact functionality you're looking for, you can change it yourself. Apple doesn't even give the option to sideload whereas Android allows it even for a stock unrooted user. But where we see these drawbacks, it does make iOS much more stable because it's extremely difficult for iphone users to screw it up. But you have to remember, different clientele. The one thing Apple has going for them is their brilliant (if you wanna call it that) marketing. That's the only reason they've done so well, is because they've managed to make a cult of it and exploit that fact that people are half the time so pathetic they need some product/brand to represent who they are, and Apple has provided that branding for millions of people. I do some home automation/networking projects as a hobby, and I hate my buddy's macbook cause that thing leaves crap all over my servers, even if the shares are on major lockdown. And getting them to play nicely with media, forget about it.
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It was long before the iPhone that I stayed away from Apple products. Their computers were and still are way overpriced when compared to the same specs on a Windows PC. Or you can build your own and save even more money. iPods are overpriced and you are forced to use iTunes. I've used Creative and Sandisk players that don't require any software as they were USB mass storage devices. I can write a simple batch file to sync two directories, I don't need a big program like iTunes. I remember one of my friends showing off their cool new iPod shuffle years ago, the model without a screen. Meanwhile I had a Sandisk player (forget the model) that had a screen and more storage space plus it costs less. I also had (still have) my Dell Axim x50 which still is a better MP3/video player than any iPod today since it has CF and SD slots and can play nearly every format with TCPMP.
Android was the next move for me after Microsoft discontinued Windows Mobile. Its the only popular mobile OS for power users left. Its a lot more stable than WM ever was, not responding apps will force close where as on WM you would often have to restart the device.
Unless Apple does something innovative with the iPhone, I predict it is on a sinking ship. Its an outdated device/UI after 5 years with little changes. After ICS, anytime I see an iOS device it just looks so outdated. There have been hardware upgrades but today's iPhone doesn't look much different from the 2007 model. The mobile market moves fast and those who don't keep up die off, look at what happened to Windows Mobile which didn't change for years.
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Actually you can use an ipod with rhythm box, an itunes-like media player for Linux . I don't have one, so I can't say anything on its functionality. I had a windows phone on, if I remember correctly, a motorola que or something. WORST PHONE EVER. I got from a friend, but I was rebooting a good 10 times a day cause it would lock up or something wacko. In terms of iOS's gui, all they'd have to do is keep adding gooey nonsense and if the play it off as an upgrade, the apple kids will eat it up for the next 30 years without any need for advancing the base functionality. Honestly, I'm sure karma will catch up with Apple (as it did for Microsoft) and they'll bury themselves in crap. Don't know what, I'm just being hopefull
Really because the iOS users are the dumbest and will buy pretty much any app that is developed.
I joke I joke.
But really the reason is because a lot of developers feel that all android users do is pirate apps so they can't make a profit.
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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There are so many factors why apple appstore has more apps,
Firstly it has a quality control, so when your apple appstore app is approved, then its a thing to be proud of next, the payment schemes offered my apple is easier than android, and also, you just need to test on 2 or maximum three devices unlike android where you gotta test on so many devices to with so many different API versions and screen sizes.
Next , visibility of new apps is much much more on apple store compared to Play store.
And lastly, the play store's global reach is less!
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Bingo. They simplify everything for quality control that they feel provides a better user experience, and to some extent it does. While it is extremely restrictive, it still provides the masses with simplicity, of whom don't know a motherboard from a graphics card half the time. Android is more of a Wild West of sorts, allowing the users to have more control of their environment. Then again, Apple proponents are more likely to pay stupid amounts of money for close to anything so they can be one of the cool kids whereas Android folk either couldn't/didn't want to afford an iphone, or are Linux people who aren't gonna be keen on paying for software in the first place.
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Maybe I posted this in the wrong section,so sorry,asking to Zecanilis . Do anyone have an iPhone here? If so,anyone can tell why Android/iOS is better? I don't wanna know it,wanna know your opinions only
So,I prefer Android because it's opensource p) and because it's more "customizable" ha
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Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
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Wow, why do we need a topic like this ? Sorry, but if you write this on Google you can find thousands of them. This will only end with flames and fights. Nothing useful.
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Yeah,infact I firstly posted and already-existing thread and I had to change thread theme. I apologize for this but what could I do?
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Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
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Actually, I like such threads, because they remind macfa...uh....macfans D) to keep quiet when it comes to comparisons to Android. Android is superior from almost any point of view.
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Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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adobe ceo has said that apple can only dream of flash coming to ios because they are simply not going to make adobe flash of ios...
this is BIG + for android...
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Yeah. But... I have to admit,for me AppStore games are better
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Care to explain why? 'Cause both AppStore and Android Market contain their fair share of crap.
@ccdreadcc: True, although with the advent of HTML5 I'm not sure how long Flash support will continue to be an advantage of Android...
Android wins do to notifications the apps not games there more intgrated with the os an its changeable u can change everything an make ur phone look diffrent an i enjoy that no 2 phones look the same an iphone there identical but they do have better games an browser is better with pinching an zooming but my sgs is a little faster with apps closed but with stuff runing its laggy an ios is mostly smooth all the time but they dont have real multi tasking
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this old comic tells everything LINK
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this old comic tells everything LINK
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Exacly its ur phone u can do wat u plz tphone(therephone) 4 its not yours but u payed 1million 4 it
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You honestly can't go wrong with either and really depends on what you like. Honestly, I think why iPhone sales are so high is because people are misinformed about the product. Everyone gets it because they have been told to or think its cool since everyone has one, but at the end of the day both operating systems can do the same or maybe better(android).
I'd say both have their plus points. I've got my O1, which is my first android device. I love the ability to customise each and every part of it. We are all fans of this OS, we already know how great it is
But what I don't like about android, is the lack of quality content on the market, specially for low end devices like ours. I've got an iPhone 3GS too, and when you access the appstore on it, there's lots of great stuff out there.
Another downside is the lack of software optimisation. We got great hardware, with ****ty software: not a great combination. For e.g. my old iPod Touch 2nd gen still runs every damn single game I put on it without a drop of lagging, whereas we all know what happens on our O1. If we did not have such great developers here, we wouldn't be enjoying our O1 that much. :/
And before someone says something like, "you got a weak device, you should buy a SGS2 or whatever to feel the true power of android," I got one thing to say: each and every one of apple's products are optimised directly from manufacturers, their users dont need to depend on external developers. We can't say that much about our devices though.
Well my experience with iOS comes from an iPod Touch 3rd Gen that I've owned for 1.5 years, and my experience with Android comes from my O1 that I've owned for 2 weeks.
As others have mentioned I love my O1 and I think that Android as an "OS" it's definitely great, and I believe that if we were to compare iOS Vs. ANDROID only at the "OS" level, the Android OS it's superior essentially because it's a powerful, open source OS that allows you to go under the hood and tweak it or improve it, whereas with iOS is just a black box that you access only through APIs published by the manufacturer.
The thing is that comparing OS to OS does not makes much sense to the end user since what's more important is comparing "The Experience" of owning and using a phone with iOS Vs a phone with ANDROID, and at that level I think that iOS/iPhone definitely provides a much solid, cohesive and overall better experience to the end user (at least from my point of view):
1-) On iOS the OS and the Hardware are "One", since we have one company that manufactures the hardware and builds and optimize the OS to run only on that hardware, providing a longer life cycle for your product since the strategy of the manufacturer (Apple) is not focused on launching a new model every 3-4 months (as it is with Android phone manufacturers). Apple's focus is actually selling as much of the same model as they can over a period of at least one year.
2-) The Appstore even though is much more restrictive (than the Market) provides a much more controlled and predictable experience for App Developers, because they only have to worry about complying with the guidelines established by their development platform, and not with developing an App that will have to run as good as possible on hardware created by 8 or 10 different manufactures who have 100+ different phone models. Volume becomes an issue and so far developers have more success selling a 99 cents app on the Appstore than selling a $5 app on the Market. Take a look at this post from a renowned Game Developer talking about his experience about porting a hit game on the Appstore to the Android Market
Bottom line is that it all comes down to the Apps more than the hardware itself (we know that phones like the Samsung Galaxy S2 beats the crap out of an iPhone 4 and basically anything else), but all that powerful hardware, dual core processors and beefy GPUs can't do much if quality Apps are not there to take advantage of it, and so far Apple has done a better job in creating a suitable environment for developers at all levels: Programming, Marketing, Billing and Post-Sales Support.
When it comes to consumers (us) I definetely prefer the android cause i'm not willing to pay a sh1tload of money to buy a marketing bloat product which targets to rip off the ignorant gudget fashion victums. I want to be able to have a smartphone for 200 euros and to be able to customize it and use it the way I want and not the way they want.
And I don't want to hear a thing about better games etc etc cause if I want games i'll go and buy a psp and the total amount of money for low/mid-end android + psp will still be conciderably lower than an apple icrap
I will write my opinion, but everybody has an unique opinion so it may not matter.
As stated above, iOs and the hardware of the iPhone are one, they are designed and built as an entity. The result is the most powerful phone. Apart from the antenna problem the iphone had, the phone is perfect. And it will still be. The single-core iPhone 4 runs as smooth as dual-core android phones. Because android phones took everything that was good in linux, but also what is bad.
Android is for the guys that like customization, playing with their devices. You will never have to jailbreak an iPhone, as it's os is godlike anyway. The nasty part is that most of appstore games cost $ and some people may not be so willing to pay for every app they have.
Apart from the price, ioS is better than android, and i consider that anyone who disagrees is just sad he can't afford an iphone.That doesn't mean android is not good, because it is excellent, but still not quite at the apple's product level. Peace
Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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Well I have also tried iOS, I own an iPod Touch 2G (MC, so it's the newer iteration). Sure, there are quality games by Gameloft & co. on the AppStore which also run alright on the iPod, but on 4.2 it gets really slow if you have any other tweaks on it, or if you activated multitasking and wallpapers.
What would definitely improve the Android experience is Gameloft getting their head out of their @ss and port their great games to lower-end devices as well. I really can't see what's the problem with minimum requirements for CPU and RAM if they really think 320x480 games would confuse customers, due to it being the most popular Android low-end resolution.
Other than that, Android is better than iOS simply because it allows you to do more stuff without hacks. First and foremost, the ability to use the phone as a mass storage device (Google should allow mass storage without additional drivers, it would be useful in certain situations, such as at school, where computers are usually blocked from installing drivers ).
@vador9: Sorry mate, but you're just as much of a d*ck as the other Apple fans. I can afford an iPhone, but that doesn't mean I WANT to spend that much money. Partly because the only reason for that price is the glass in it.
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You can actually do Mass Storage without the drivers.
And please, do not insult any other forum members. Whatever his opinion may be, its his, it should be respected. Its only a sharing of opinion, not a war.
Android has a great user interface, its highly customisable, it offers whatever someone may want. It's just that rare are the devices which really makes android look so good.
To explain this, I'll take the example of our fabulous O1. Forget about the pricing, let's just analyse the phone in itself: a nice phone, with great features, and a wonderful OS. The OS can do pretty much everything. Now where is the problem? LG, LG is the problem. I agree we paid for a low end phone, but that doesnt mean it should contain ****ty bugs, like the screen lag for example. Even with gingerbread out, it still has not been solved.
Its often the device which holds many a problems, not the OS. This is where iOS has an advantage, it's been used only on a couple of devices, and both the devices and the OS are manufactured by the same company. This causes a great optimisation. For example again, on any iOS device you may not be able to send a file via bluetooth properly (limited by the OS), but you have a smooth touchscreen with no lag at all and you almost never have an error popping up now and then (from the manufacturer).
Moreover, when we say "Appstore offers a larger range of quality apps than that of Android Market", its not just about games. Often basic apps are of much lower quality on the Market, e.g. compare the Facebook app on both platform, and you'll see that the Android version is weak.
Overall:
Android wins when it comes to customisation and performance (provided you have a good device), and iOS has an upper hand when it comes to best user experience and high quality apps
( ) iPhone
( ) iPad
( ) iPad 2
( ) iPod Touch
(✔) iDon't have money
(Certainly not for overpriced hype from a vendor whose customer attitude is way worse than Microsoft's )
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You can? Please enlighten me, I thought it really needed the LG Android drivers for that.
Also, he insulted us first, by implying we all are too poor to get iPhones and that's why we're jealous and say iOS is worse.
That's the title of a review from the quite large news-station in Denmark
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The reviewer says it's better than ipad in all ways.
EDIT: How can i get an infraction from beign racist, when i'm a dane?
It's like saying "**** all americans" when you are born and raised in america.
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That's the title of a review from the quite large news-station in Denmark
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The reviewer says it's better than ipad in all ways.
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Well, to be honest, that sounds like the reviewer is a total Android fanboy in that case. Prime does not beat 'ipad in all ways'. Even the biggest fanboys in this forum would not say that Prime is better than an iPad is in every way.
It's actually more like a preview
So what do you think of Benny Feilhaber?
I would. Only people who haven't owned or owned for very long would say that. ios is crazy locked down. There isn't much to do other than play games. Its like a prison rec yard with razor wire and little Steve jobs guards with whistles..
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Android vs. iOS is like religion and politics - you just don't go there. I'd never buy an Apple product because I can't stand their Orwellian control over both the h/w and s/w. But, for people who like things simple and thought out for them, iOS is a safe bet. Also, look at the price of a used TF1 vs. an iPad1. Apple sells more iPads in a week than Asus is projecting for all of 2012. Whether you like Apple or not they've built up quite a little empire of loyal fans. I just bought my niece a 32GB iPad2 because Garage Band doesn't exist for Windows or Android. So there are examples of things you can do on iOS that you can't on other platforms.
Gaming: ipad 2
Office stuff: push
Personalization: Android
Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
All of this might/ should change with tegra 3 and ICS coming out, but we dont know what ipad3 will bring either.
What i chose in those "catagories" might make you think i would be a Apple fanboy, but i put personalizatio/customization as 88% of my personal scoring. I own an ipad and ipad 2 and theyre great for my wife and 3yo. But i love my a500 and my asus when it gets here.
pizza and beer ...
Android on a tablet is damn near all anyone needs for their daily computer needs. I FULLY believe android is the future of computing. Hands down blowing the doors off of ios. Its laughable really....
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So what do you think of Benny Feilhaber?
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he plays in new england, and probably does ipad
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You forgot to mention:
OS Functionality: Android
iOS is essentially a glorified app launcher. Which fine as far as it goes, because iOS has lots of good apps. But I like being able to use my tablet without needing to launch apps, and there's quite a bit I can do with my Transformer right from the home screen (see recent emails, Tweets, Facebook updates, calendar events, tasks, etc., create Evernote notes, etc.).
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By that standard, we should have never outgrown Megablocks or Tonka trucks. LOL
I like my widgets, and not a glorified shortcut screen.
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Gaming: ipad 2
Office stuff: push
Personalization: Android
Quik learning curve: ios
Transitions to apps: ios
All of this might/ should change with tegra 3 and ICS coming out, but we dont know what ipad3 will bring either.
What i chose in those "catagories" might make you think i would be a Apple fanboy, but i put personalizatio/customization as 88% of my personal scoring. I own an ipad and ipad 2 and theyre great for my wife and 3yo. But i love my a500 and my asus when it gets here.
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Not so sure about the gaming verdict there. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think the iPad supports game controllers. Also it seems that I'm able to get a lot of the iTunes paid apps free in the Android Market.
Downloading from anywhere you want.......Android
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Funny how every thread here turns into an android vs ios discussion I think that just shows that both systems are very good and really competing. Best situation for us the users. They race each other with new features and lower prices and we profit!
Anyways it all comes down to personal preference. For me the Prime beats the iPad in all ways. But there are so many reasons why people get tablets and everyone is looking for something slightly different...
-There is the "i buy every apple product" guy
-There is the "i have all other products from apple so i buy my tablet from them as well" guy
-There's the "everything must be shiny and sparkling" guy (that obviously buys apple products)
-There's the "i would never buy an apple product" guy
-There's the "omg i love the keyboard dock idea on the prime" guy (me)
-There's the "i wont buy a tablet without full sized USB port somewhere" guy (me)
-There's the "i want to use my tablet for more than media consumption" guy (me)
-There's the "i dont want to jailbreak my device to be able to use it properly" guy (me)
and so on and on... I think in the end Apple will have about the same spot they have in the PC market now. Why? They've put those great ideas out there with the iphone and the ipad and no one else had any comparable products at the time. This situation is called "Monopoly". You get huge sales by that. Imagine there would be only one car manufactor...
But while other companies like ASUS improve this idea by adding new stuff, Apple somehow keeps to the original idea. So many gamers are screaming for a hardware control method. Apple says you have touchscreen its awesome. Having a keyboard dock and full sized ports is awesome but Apple says you have touchscreen and cloud thing - thats better. Etc.
i find that old people, women, and kids are more suited for ios. While its a "glorified shortcut screen" its all they really need. Oh yea, and non nerdy guys too.
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i find that old people, women, and kids are more suited for ios. While its a "glorified shortcut screen" its all they really need. Oh yea, and non nerdy guys too.
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I guess anyone who does not like/ want to spend time on customizing the OS would love the iOS experience. Similar to what happens with Mac vs. PC. You want to customize and be able to change everything that you could possibly think of but with the possibility of messing up your system, get a PC/Android. You want an out of box experience which is pretty much smooth while only safely letting you stay within the virtual walls the engineers developed, get an Apple.
Android tablets slowly chopping away iPad marketshare
Not sure if this is a correct place to post it, but I saw this article this morning
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/strategy-analytics-apple-still-owns-tablet-market-but-android/
According to numbers, Android is slowly eroding Apple's hold on tablet market. And I believe numbers do not show Transformer Prime yet. Wonder how long until we see the same thing here that happened with phone market, when Android overtook iPhone.
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Not sure if this is a correct place to post it, but I saw this article this morning
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/strategy-analytics-apple-still-owns-tablet-market-but-android/
According to numbers, Android is slowly eroding Apple's hold on tablet market. And I believe numbers do not show Transformer Prime yet. Wonder how long until we see the same thing here that happened with phone market, when Android overtook iPhone.
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iPhone hit back strongly last quarter though, impressive for one company to out-perform every other company out there put together. But yeah it is inevitable, Android will chip more of that market share away in upcoming years as long as companies produce great phones and tablets.
I cannot resist pointing out that quality control plays a huge role in it though. If Android phones and tablets become known for quality hardware and build wise as much as Android itself has become a very solid and stable operating system, this will happen quickly. But if the 'best Android tablet' launch, like that of TF201, is continuously full of problems in the future, then it's basically Android shooting itself in the foot.
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iPhone hit back strongly last quarter though, impressive for one company to out-perform every other company out there put together. But yeah it is inevitable, Android will chip more of that market share away in upcoming years as long as companies produce great phones and tablets.
I cannot resist pointing out that quality control plays a huge role in it though. If Android phones and tablets become known for quality hardware and build wise as much as Android itself has become a very solid and stable operating system, this will happen quickly. But if the 'best Android tablet' launch, like that of TF201, is continuously full of problems in the future, then it's basically Android shooting itself in the foot.
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Excellent points. I totally agree.
I know that we all probably figured as much and understand that in the future, Mobile phones and tablets will defeat PCs and Laptops completely (now that we are getting devices that can double or even triple as phone, tablet and potentially PC/laptop), still it is an interesting read and article. So, have a look at this. Specifically click on the "Future of Mobile>" link at the bottom of the article to see a powerpoint presentation!
Interesting indeed. I've wondered about this before, specifically Microsoft's future and the 'Andriod vs. iOS' war.
When it comes to Microsoft, I'm just not sure anymore. Sure, they have their hands gripped tightly around the desktop and laptop markets, but seeing this only reaffirms my opinion that Microsoft doesn't have much left going for them. With smartphones and tablets often going for more than an entire desktop computer, and now that phones and tablets truly are grossing more sales than desktops and laptops, Microsoft isn't the giant corporation it used to be. At least, not in comparison to the competition. If they don't get their act together soon, they may start to see profits dwindle. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't tried stronger marketing campaigns for their Windows phones and tablets; I know they exist, but I've never seen one in person and I've never seen an ad for them.
When it comes to Apple vs. Google/Motorola/Samsung/HTC/Nokia/Rim (essentially all mobile phone manufacturers), I've often wondered who will pull out ahead when smartphones continue to rise in sales and popularity. On one hand there is Android, along with it's very large user-base and realistically small developer-base, and on the other is iOS and its even larger user-base, extremely strong fanboy mentality, and its incredibly large developer-base. I used to think Android had it in the bag as I started seeing them all the time at school and work.. but I just don't know anymore. I would like to see Android win, because it's my personal preference, but I don't see it happening. Honestly, I think Apple's got this one in the bag. When it comes to apps and the user interface, they've already won.
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Interesting indeed. I've wondered about this before, specifically Microsoft's future and the 'Andriod vs. iOS' war.
When it comes to Microsoft, I'm just not sure anymore. Sure, they have their hands gripped tightly around the desktop and laptop markets, but seeing this only reaffirms my opinion that Microsoft doesn't have much left going for them. With smartphones and tablets often going for more than an entire desktop computer, and now that phones and tablets truly are grossing more sales than desktops and laptops, Microsoft isn't the giant corporation it used to be. At least, not in comparison to the competition. If they don't get their act together soon, they may start to see profits dwindle. Frankly I'm surprised they haven't tried stronger marketing campaigns for their Windows phones and tablets; I know they exist, but I've never seen one in person and I've never seen an ad for them.
When it comes to Apple vs. Google/Motorola/Samsung/HTC/Nokia/Rim (essentially all mobile phone manufacturers), I've often wondered who will pull out ahead when smartphones continue to rise in sales and popularity. On one hand there is Android, along with it's very large user-base and realistically small developer-base, and on the other is iOS and its even larger user-base, extremely strong fanboy mentality, and its incredibly large developer-base. I used to think Android had it in the bag as I started seeing them all the time at school and work.. but I just don't know anymore. I would like to see Android win, because it's my personal preference, but I don't see it happening. Honestly, I think Apple's got this one in the bag. When it comes to apps and the user interface, they've already won.
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As long as I have an Android tablet and Android phone in my hand I will not agree that iPhone is winning. As of now Android has one thing going for it and that is its humongous user base. Yet it is baffling that it has at best a moderate developer base. I would guess that more devs would dev for this platform. Also, I learned that deving for android is easier as well. Oh well...
The ONLY way Android can win is if Google grows a pair of balls and tells all the manufacturers firmly that there is no way in hell you are allowed to make customizations. All you are doing is ruining the experience without significantly improving user experience and causing additional delays and fragmentation with deploying updates. From now on all of you release AOSP and update the week Google releases source code. Android's Achilles heel is fragmentation. That is why despite the fact that there are more androids than iPhones developers don't prefer it OR get much revenue from it.
So, Google, Grow. Some. Balls!!!
Moreover, I have always had a soft spot for Microsoft. I dunno but it being the underdog I always wanted MS to come sweeping to victory with their Windows phone 7. Frankly it is a very good OS. Many of my friends state that it has one of the smoothest UI. And it is so good that it can run amazingly on a single core device. All WP7 devices are single core but you'll never notice it. It is that good. In fact, I believe it was this CES or may be the last, when MS was cocky and started boasting that if you show us a device that can run smoother and faster than their Nokia Lumia 900 device, they will give you $100 (or may be the phone, I dunno). It was a bet.
Also MS did one more thing right. It had the balls, unlike Google to tell manufacturers that they can't customize WP7 other than the color scheme and some innocent apps/links on the home screen. No theming or skinning. And all WP7 devices get updates promptly, at worst within a month!!! Google, you can learn a thing or two from MS! Unfortunately MS is not really advertizing WP7 as much as they should. They can easily get more market share by appropriately marketing it and boasting its plus points!
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The reason why Android has so few Devs compared to apple is because apple is one phone with a large portion of the market. If you're a company producing apps, you look at this and think: well, we could code for Apple and get this much market share, our we could code for Android, and then we would have to make sure it's compatible with all 200 different types, screen rezs, screen sizes, etc, to get a slightly larger market share.
In fact, up until about last summer, Google's dev page said to program the code for iPhone first, and then port it to Android, if you were going to do both.
So yeah. Unfortunate, but a fact of life.
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Very thorough presentation there.
Dear Everyone,
I've just wondered that why people are getting an iPhone, when there is the best of all Android? For example, I've adviced someone to get themselves a Samsung Galaxy S2. But ended up getting an iPhone 4S! I know that Android is way better than iOS, because of;
Here are some reasons;
1) I have a Sony Ericsson Xperia X8 and an Apple iPhone 3G S
2) My cousin said that the iPhone is a disease (he has a Samsung Galaxy S2 and an iPhone 3G (not the 3G S))
3) T3 Awarded Phones (from 2009) are all Android.
P.S: you can share your opinions and ideas and etc.
If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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If someone buys an iPhone, it doesn't necessarily mean that they hate Android. Maybe they just prefer the looks of the iPhone.
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The Question is now changed, because of I have asked in a wrong way, sorry.
The only thing because i like ios is that there are a lot more social media apps and the interfaces of the apps are better.
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Several People buy an iPhone because
-It has that User Friendly UI (User friendliness make me angry LoL)
-Apple got known first in the smart phone industry. Android was second (I think?)
-Some People like the iPhone's look )
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
I think not everybody wants a phone, which is compicated, because you can change everything.
Many people choose a phone, because of the looks and the fact, that there is only one way, to do a specific task (it doesn't even have to be the best way - but one way)
And the iphone has great hardware.
I personally wanted a phone, where I am in control, so I chose Android
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It's the same thing as asking why people prefer apple computers over pc. People are different, what suits for other is not necessary good for everyone.
I think the whole industry needs competition so that we, as consumers, can always get better and better products. That's why it's good thing to see people buying both android and iOS phones.
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The funny thing is, in the late 80s and 90s and even into the 2000s Apple advertised themselves as the alternative to the mainstream boring beige cased PC. Nowadays the iPhone is likely the most recognizable smartphone and about as mainstream as you get. The vast selection of Android phones is the alternative.
Android needs Apple and Apple needs Android, competition provides a better and less expensive product for the consumer. Now if only Apple would play along instead of suing everyone that poses a threat.
Hello, i have used both, and i bear no grudge to either Android or Apple. I generally laugh everytime i read forums sections on articles regarding phone-tests on Android or iPhone. The flaming that Fanbois and Android lovers give eachother.. LOL they have no clue.
iPhone and Android both have their pro and cons. Neither is perfect.
Why i pick Android:
- OPEN SOURCE
- The fun of flashing Roms.
- Good selection of ROMS and phones.
- Utilities on Market are better than Appstore on Apple
Why i wouldn´t choose Android:
- Performance issues and bugs.
- Touch screen is not the best.
- Malware in market apps.
- Some apps sucks on Android that is way better on IOS
- Typing is not the best. Inaccurate at times.
- Flimsy build on many models.
Why i would choose iPhone:
- Lovely and solid built. The glass material on iPhone pisses over Corning Gorilla Glass in my opinion.
- IOS is very flawless in action. little bugs and demands less CPU to run.
- Great selection of games, iPhone runs them better than Android.
- Jailbreaking (opens up a better world on a otherwise very boring OS)
- Simplicity in use.
- Typing on iPhone is much more accurate on IOS than Android, that is because screen on iPhone is closer to your thumb than most Androids.
- Drag & Drop to phone
- Many smarter and well thought features in IOS.
Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
First of all, I believe people choose the iphone over android because of brand name. More people are more familiar with Apple's iphone brand than Google's Android devices. Because of that, they choose to go with the brand they're most familiar with. Sort of like those preppy people whp always wear clothes from differing brands like Hollister, Aeropostle, American Eagle, etc.
Second is because Apple supports their older devices more frequently than Google and the other device manufacturers.
Third is because many people are technologically challenged and don't know what to do on their phone. For that, Apple's iphone definitely takes the cake in ease of use. Plus little kids can learn how to use the iphone quickly compared to using an android.
Fourth is apps because Apple has a LOT of apps (more than Android).
Fifth is probably due to looks because the iphone looks premium and most android devices usually don't look premium despite the price.
Finally, to end this IMO explanation, Apple generally has a fluid UI, which rarely lags and even games feel EXTREMELY fluid (in my experience with a friend's iphone). Android may be getting better, but it still lags behind a little more noticeably.
That's pretty much how I would see why people go for the iphone over Android.
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Iphone is a popular trend..
And the mass majority of people don't enjoy tinkering with things to make them perfect. They want something easy to use and won't stop being supported by apple. Apple's entire concept is easy to use if the consumer is willing to give up control.
There are so many different versions of android and the main android will be old in two months. It is impossible to have the latest thing in the Android Market.
I am using a two years old Samsung but it runs like a champ on the rom and kernel. Stock would have killed me by now how slow it is. Not everyone wants to spend the time figuring things out.
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In my experience with numerous tablets, and phones, my iPhone JUST WORKS. I like the itunes syncing concept, and the phone can always be relied on. My androids though....poor battery life with custom ROM's and kernels. Sometimes there isn't a root. (like the vizio vtab1008). With iPhone, you know that there are millions like you, and who are being taken care of by the few and the proud devs that always bring on the jailbreaks. Sure, android gives me so much more power. Like a strong russian woman! A very smart russian woman...and iPhone is like the all american babe. She looks good, but isn't as strong. When it comes to apps, iPhone has it DOWN. If you want a long lasting phone with amzing build quality, that JUST WORKS, and nothing more, then get an iPhone. If you want more power, and customization, then GO ANDROID!!!!!
I prefer android tweaks/mods/roms way more than IOS tweaks. Let me say this....the day that iPhone get sd card and an onboard recovery image, with open source IOS....then good bye Android lol.
Personally, I enjoy Android much more. +1 for android.
I've seen people who believe ios is the best, and the rest is nothing, and I was like, what?
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Why i won´t choose iPhone / IOS:
- The build is just solid.
- Closed source (hooray Jailbreaking)
- Very very dull phone when not Jailbroken
- Utilities apps kinda sucks
- Outdated size, 3.5" screen is way to small today (bring on iPhone 5)
- iTunes and Syncing pretty much sucks.
- Everybody owns an iPhone..
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You can also add that iPhone is easily smashable.
Check this link: iPhone 4S vs. Samsung Galaxy S2 Drop Test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
Dumb question
and clutters thread..
Mods should close
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This is like asking why do vegetarians eat veggies when there is good meat????
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That does pretty much sum this thread up.
It's had a few days to gain some opinions, and now it's time to end it.
Thread closed.
I know this is a little off topic,. but thought it should be seen. Here is the article that i copied and pasted with the URL below to the story, thanks.
There has been lots of action in the mobile industry this week.
First, Samsung is launching a much-anticipated new smartphone in New York this evening--a phone that many observers think will vault it ahead of Apple (AAPL) and the rest of the smartphone industry.
The existing version of this phone, the Galaxy S3, has already put Samsung on a par with Apple, with many phone buyers preferring the Galaxy's large screen to the smaller one on Apple's iPhone 5.
Samsung's new phone, the Galaxy S4, will be even bigger, and it is also expected to have several other new features that may make the iPhone look old and boring in comparison.
Related: Everything You Need to Know About The Samsung Galaxy 4S
Samsung, the Korean TV giant, has come out of nowhere over the last few years to become the world's largest smartphone seller. This rise has surprised both Wall Street and Apple. Apple's stock has tanked. And with Samsung now poised to leap past Apple, Apple executives are suddenly on the defensive.
This week, in a surprising move that has rubbed even Apple fans the wrong way, one of Apple's senior executives, Phil Schiller, gave interviews to The Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg in which he trashed the Android operating system that powers Samsung phones.
"When you take an Android device out of the box, you have to sign up to nine accounts with different vendors to get the experience iOS comes with," Schiller told the WSJ. "They don't work seamlessly together."
He went on to say that "Android is often given as a free replacement for a feature phone and the experience isn't as good as an iPhone."
The points that Schiller made about Android--that it is fragmented into different versions and that it's not as simple to use as Apple's operating system--were reasonable. But coming as they did on Samsung's big launch day, the comments seemed defensive, classless, and even desperate.
Apple's founder and CEO, Steve Jobs, was famous for trashing his competitors' products. But Jobs' picked his spots carefully. His criticisms came on Apple conference calls or at Apple events. He didn't try to steal competitors' thunder on their product launch days.
Also, in the days when Jobs was ridiculing the competition, Apple really was miles ahead of everyone. But it no longer is. So the sudden show of bravado seems even more tone deaf.
The last big development in the smartphone industry this week is that the executive who has built Google's (GOOG) Android operating system from the ground up, Andy Rubin, is being replaced by another Google executive.
Google appears to want to "unify" its two operating systems, Android and a laptop-based operating system called Chrome. This move makes strategic sense: In a world in which "mobile" is now a continuum between laptops and phones (with tablets in between), it's silly to maintain two separate operating systems. And it looks as though, in this unification, Google has chosen between two executives and decided to have the new combined effort led by Chrome boss Sundar Pichai.
In a trend that is reminiscent of the PC industry in the 1980s and 1990s, the Android operating system has become the dominant global mobile operating system over the last several years.
Apple's operating system, meanwhile, iOS, has been reduced to a niche player.
In "platform markets" like these, in which third-party companies build apps and services that run on top of these operating systems, market share is very important.
So if Samsung's new phone is a big hit, and Google's Android continues to gain global market share, Apple's challenges are only going to increase.
http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/dail...ve-samsung-launches-huge-phone-145732269.html
This is not development. Smfh..... To the article. Didn't mean this to sound that mean. Just a little mean
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This is probably in the wrong section and will probably be moved. but i call bull**** on this! Samsung smokes apple out of the water, and im just talking about the Note 2.. And i came from an iPhone just last year!
I love the iPhone and I love android. Both for different reasons. The iPhone always "just works". Which is fantastic and boring at the same time. Android works great or needs help working great which is all the fun we do
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I love the iPhone and I love android. Both for different reasons. The iPhone always "just works". Which is fantastic and boring at the same time. Android works great or needs help working great which is all the fun we do
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Well this is my first android phone where it "just works".. on top of the freedom that comes along with it, by far, the best phone on the market. It's already awesome!
Wrong section . People fail to realize that Android statistics include the cheaper, lower end phones. Samsung caters to those who want the high end devices as well as to those who seek a low-cost for, while apple does NOT.
So they are comparing their ONLY phone which is their HIGH end to a variety of androids from the GN2 to some android phone you can pick up for pennies on the dollar. Those who I have spoken to that talked bad about androids were talking about phones I've never even heard of. What they should do is compare the satisfactory ratings for specific phones and see which one comes on top...oh wait...already done that and saw the results
So many editors are so quick to jump the gun and publish an article with HORRIBLE sources and populations in which the statistics were gathered from.
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So if this is off topic why would you for any reason think it goes in development? I mean you've been around since 2010..... come on man! Reported.
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Thread has been moved, and unfortunately I am going to have to close it also. All talk of "iPhone vs. Android" or "Apple said this" tends to get ugly fast. Trust me I despise Apple just as much as most of us do, but this isn't the place for it.