This is a technical question and even though it's about the t-mobile t999 I decided to post it here as well because the post relates to the international version as well. Here it is:
I live in Israel. I used to live in the US. Last time I was in the US I bought this phone and brought it over. I did my research beforehand and knowingly purchased the phone assuming I would have full compatible with Israeli service providers...
Now, I'm not so sure anymore. I just tried the phone today.. maybe 5 hours of use. Still have the default OS installed. No root or anything. The signal seems to fluctuate going between Edge and higher speed networks.
Here's what it says about Cellcom on wikipedia:
Cellcom eventually sought to replace the 850 MHz TDMA frequencies it owns with standard 900 MHz GSM frequencies but Pelephone and Partner (Orange) petitioned the Ministry of Communications to deny this for technical reasons. This put Cellcom at a disadvantage since though most of its users had converted to GSM, they were not able to make use of the lower frequency's better in-building penetration and greater cell reach.
With its entry into 3G wireless services Cellcom demoed the first mobile video call in Israel. Since the beginning of 2006, Cellcom began deploying a 3G UMTS-2100 network nationwide which by the end of 2007 covered than 87% of the population. Cellcom was the first in Israel to launch an HSDPA network (also called "Generation 3.5") nationwide. In 2011, Cellcom began to deploy UMTS services in the 850 MHz band, employing unused capacity in that frequency range since it had very few TDMA customers remaining. The Israeli Ministry of Communications has approved Cellcom's plan to shut down the TDMA-850 network on 31 December 2011.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It supports the following networks:
GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, SMS, MMS, iMode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I just put the SIM card back in my old international Galaxy 2 i9100T and it'll fluctuate between HSDPA: 8 and HSPA+:15. Also it displays an H icon in the status bar (I don't think Resurrection rom is capable of displaying an H+).
Anyway, I'm going to put the SIM back in the Galaxy 3 t999. It now fluctuates between EDGE: 2, HSPAP: 15, HSPA: 11, and UMTS: 3. The signal is shifty and only displays a 3G at the top, no H like the international Galaxy 2.
Here's what wikipedia lists as the differences between the two models of the Galaxy 3 (standard international i9300 and my t-mobile t999):
Model GT-I9300;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+
no 4G of course
max speed: 21 Mbit/s HSPA+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and
Model SGH-T999;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 1,700 (AWS/Band IV), 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+
no 4G either
max speed: 42 Mbit/s DC-HSPA+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and this is what gsmarena.com says about the cellular capabilities of Israel:
2G capabilities: Required GSM 900 Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
3G capabilities: Required UMTS 2100 Recommended UMTS 850 and UMTS 2100
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So what do you think is going on??? Doesn't the t-mobile Galaxy 3 t999 support all the networks that Israel currently has operating???
It could be an OS issue. Have you tried flashing yet?
You will never get an H or H+ with a T-Mobile branded GS3. It's as simple as looking at your User Manual.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Your phone contains all the networks for Israel, but it's optimized for T-Mobile's network. So you aren't going to get the performance you would get with the International GSIII.
Related
I just rooted and unlocked mine via instructions here. I am getting an "E" icon, does that mean edge? How do I get 3G to work like people are claiming. I am outside of Orlando with a VERY reliable 3G connection normally.
It won't give you 3g on att lol. Tmobile uses different bands and vibrant does not support att 3g bands, just edge. You should have gotten the captivate, which is made to work on att 3g. It's just a given, almost every phone is like that. You can take most att phones, unlock them to work on Tmobile, but will only get edge, same thing with Tmobile phones. Can't be done...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
afive720 said:
It won't give you 3g on att lol. Tmobile uses different bands and vibrant does not support att 3g bands, just edge. You should have gotten the captivate, which is made to work on att 3g. It's just a given, almost every phone is like that. You can take most att phones, unlock them to work on Tmobile, but will only get edge, same thing with Tmobile phones. Can't be done...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently it supports AT&T 3G bands
Source:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-galaxy-s-unlock-codes-are-stored-in-your-phone-vibra/
Now the question is if the vibrant has both 850mhz and 1900mhz 3g bands.
I was wondering a similar thing. I saw that T-mobile roams on AT&T's networks a lot during a recent road trip, so do you think you can get 3g data speeds over those networks without the need for an ATT sim card?
Just debating whether or not to try to unlock it.
This is really odd - have not seen a device do this before but Engadget generally doesn't lie.
So basically it works on AT&T's 1900mhz based 3G network. In a lot of areas, it could actually work with an ATT SIM once unlocked.
I'm going to give this a try a bit later and will report back how it goes in my area. I know AT&T has both 850 and 1900 based 3G here.
I just took the fam out for icecream and picked up a 3G signal, but back at home on Edge...bah...
Yeah, their 1900mhz isn't as abundant as their 850mhz signal.
The best 'half-band' solutions typically involve a device that supports 850mhz but not 1900mhz, like the HD2 T9193 or HD T8285 both of which get 3G in *many* AT&T areas
Hi peeps,
My research on various forums so far suggests to me that there seems to be contradicting reports whether or not the Vibrant works on AT&T 3G.
I'm planning on importing this phone and use it with an HSPA 850 MHz network in my country, but I'm still skeptical about reception capability of this particular phone. Some reports indicated that the phone works with HSPA 850 while others confirmed that it only works with 1900 MHz band on AT&T.
Therefore, can anybody please confirm if this phone, once unlocked, actually works with HSPA 850. Thanks in advance for any help you might offer.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
The phone definitely does not work with 850MHz.
I have a 850-only phone (HD T8285) as well as this Vibrant (1900 only) in front of me.
I just tested an AT&T SIM in both.
The T8285 gets excellent reception here, around 81dbm.
The vibrant on the other hand gets very spotty reception, ranging from 97dbm to around 110.
If the vibrant worked on 850, it would be getting similar reception. Instead it drops to EDGE a lot when using it on AT&T.
Edit: If I go outside, I can get decent 3g and good speeds:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Still, very clearly 1900 due to spotty signal indoors
This is however quite a nice surprise - it opens the opportunity to use it on AT&T's network in places where 1900 3G is solid.
So it does not support 850? Secondly how do I know if I am in 850 or 1900 area?
larry996 said:
So it does not support 850? Secondly how do I know if I am in 850 or 1900 area?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most areas are going to have both if anything, so the main thing you're going to want to know is if 1900 is strong enough where you are.
Unfortunately I dont know a truly reliable way to check a specific area for whether thats the case, besides actually trying a 1900 only phone
gsvnet said:
Most areas are going to have both if anything, so the main thing you're going to want to know is if 1900 is strong enough where you are.
Unfortunately I dont know a truly reliable way to check a specific area for whether thats the case, besides actually trying a 1900 only phone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not true, AT&T is working on moving their entire 3G network to the 850mhz band... Here in New York City they're exclusively 850mhz unless I'm mistaken.
DevPhone1337 said:
Not true, AT&T is working on moving their entire 3G network to the 850mhz band... Here in New York City they're exclusively 850mhz unless I'm mistaken.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I heard that same thing. So if the Vibrant "only" does 1900.... those in 850 are SOL!
Anyone know how old this map is....?????
http://www.cellularmaps.com/att_850_1900.shtml
DevPhone1337 said:
Not true, AT&T is working on moving their entire 3G network to the 850mhz band... Here in New York City they're exclusively 850mhz unless I'm mistaken.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They've simply re-allocated much of the 3G network to the 850Mhz band, but based on my testing (with a vibrant), they have not totally gotten rid of 1900 3G - it still exists.
The problem with that map is it doesn't differentiate between 2G and 3G.
I have an att sim and I can get 3g on my unlocked vibrant. You can get into the debug screen and clearly see wcdma 850 listed and it is unchecked by default. Only 1900 and AWS bands are enabled. Since we have 1900 att 3g here it works fine. I just haven't had nerve to enable the 850 in the screen to test it. But I have read reports that enabling 850 does absolutely nothing anyway since the hardware does not support that band.
afive720 said:
It won't give you 3g on att lol. Tmobile uses different bands and vibrant does not support att 3g bands, just edge. You should have gotten the captivate, which is made to work on att 3g. It's just a given, almost every phone is like that. You can take most att phones, unlock them to work on Tmobile, but will only get edge, same thing with Tmobile phones. Can't be done...
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its confirmed that it gets att 3g: http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/22/confirmed-galaxy-s-unlock-codes-are-stored-in-your-phone-vibra/ My recommendation is to mess around with it.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
could someone confirm the 850mhz reception?
To what ive seen the vibrant comes with both 850/1900 bajds making it more then compatable with ATT 3G
note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
vikramjatt11 said:
note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
as far information available on the internet most of the GSM operators in india operate in 900/1800 MHz range.
For 3g most GSM based operators are in 1900 MHz range which is supported by atrix, although BSNL/MTNL operates 3g in 2100 MHz range which too is supported by atrix.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
vikramjatt11 said:
note: i know there is another thread on this, but it does not answer my question!
i want to buy an atrix to send to india... i know the voice will work once i root the phone...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
FYI u do not need to root ur phone in order for voice and data to work. Albeit u need to network unlock from AT&T which u can buy at many websites.
the question is:
the 3g bands for the atrix are: "HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100"
the 3g bands in india are: "900 / 1800"
so would the 3g work in india, or does the atrix have to have both 900 AND 1800 for it to work? or will the 900 alone do the job??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
More detailed information on this:
http://blog.anands.net/2010/08/03/choosing-a-3g-phone-for-india/
http://trak.in/tags/business/2010/05/19/3g-auction-update-spectrum-winners/
Atrix does not work with BSNL voice plan
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
ravindrans76 said:
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Did you unlock the imei to use it on ur country? It allows you to use ur sim card from ur national carrier.
If you didnt, that's the problem.
If you did, you should make sure you put correct apn's to makes internet connection working.
Greetings,
ravindrans76 said:
I recently brought an ATT unlocked Atrix and it does not work with BSNL/Vodafone network in india for the voice and Data.
Im surprised that Voice plan does not work....Any idea...
I tried factory reset and restart the cell often.....
Thanks
Ravi
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try to change there baseband version
Sent from my MB860 using xda premium
Hello,
The title says it all really. Wondering if the Amaze would work here on T-Mobile Austria which uses UMTS 2100. I read somewhere else that it relies on 1700 and 2100 for upload/download. Don't much about how this works.... or can the phone do both on the 2100 band? I sort of prefer it to a normal Sensation available here because it has NFC. Not that it has much use as of now....
EDIT: on Wiki it appears that T-Mobile Austria uses 1900 for upload and 2100 for download so I guess it wouldn't work.
Lawk said:
Hello,
The title says it all really. Wondering if the Amaze would work here on T-Mobile Austria which uses UMTS 2100. I read somewhere else that it relies on 1700 and 2100 for upload/download. Don't much about how this works.... or can the phone do both on the 2100 band? I sort of prefer it to a normal Sensation available here because it has NFC. Not that it has much use as of now....
EDIT: on Wiki it appears that T-Mobile Austria uses 1900 for upload and 2100 for download so I guess it wouldn't work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm also interested in this.
I live in italy and I'm not sure it's working in europe. Generally t-mobile's phones works in italy, but I want to be sure before I buy
Metallaro said:
I'm also interested in this.
I live in italy and I'm not sure it's working in europe. Generally t-mobile's phones works in italy, but I want to be sure before I buy
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it should, considering the network bands are the same as usual...
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Those are three bands listed on my box. Shows 1900 so I'm guessing it would work.
Sent from my HTC_Amaze_4G using XDA App
You will be able to use the HTC Amaze to place calls pretty much anywhere in the world since it's quad-band.
For 3G however, the box indicates only UMTS bands AWS & 2100. So you just have to check if your carrier uses one of those bands for 3G (you can look at this page for example). As you can see, the phone will work in 3G pretty much everywhere in Europe.
Some carriers however use UMTS bands 2100 and 900. The 900 Mhz frequency has a wider coverage area and is quite cheap to set up since the carriers can use existing GSM antennas (with some modification of course). If your carrier is listed as using "900/2100", it basically means you'll only have 3G in densely populated areas (where UMTS 2100 is used) but not in remote areas (where UMTS 900 is used). Both frequencies' coverage maps should be available on your carrier's website.
Lawk and Metallaro: 900 Mhz doesn't seem to be in use in Austria nor in Italy, so you should have full 3G coverage with the HTC Amaze (unless Wikipedia is wrong of course).
Ok, thanks to all
I've been searching high and low for a phone that will work on both T-mobile and AT&T. The Galaxy Nexus was going to be my choice, but it has way too many problems (screen being the biggest issue).
I found this version of the Razr Maxx which says that it has bands for both AT&T and T-Mobile. My question to you guys is this: If I buy this phone, will I be able to use it and get full 3G (HSPA+) speeds on either carrier?
http://www.clove.co.uk/motorola-razr-maxx
Thanks!
After doing some more research, it seems that the phone has to have 1700/2100 bands in order to work on T-Mobile.
The phone has 2100 band. Does this mean that T-Mobile 3G HSPA will work only when the area has that band, or not at all?
That model runs on :
GSM/GPRS Yes
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Frequencies850/900/1800/1900 MHz
and/or
3G/HSPA Yes
Frequencies2100/1900/900/850 Mhz
So YES, that model WILL WORK on ATT/TMO. Both companies have roaming agreements with each other and other companies which would allow your device to work if and when you are within a coverage area. NOT ALL features may work in certain areas AND data may be a certain speed in 1 area and in another it may be MUCH MUCH SLOWER due to the fact that it is using your 2G/GSM bands because there is no 3G/HSPA aka HSPA+ aka 4G (aka by ATT and/or TMO). This particular model CANNOT AND WILL NOT ever get true 4G/LTE.
Hope this helps...
Thanks for the answer. After doing a lot of research, I've learned that it WILL work for AT&T 3G/"4G" speeds, and will NOT work for T-Mobile 3G/"4G" speeds.
Reason being is that even though it has the 2100 band, it doesn't have the 1700 band, which T-Mobile requires for full HSPA speed. It uses one for uplink and the other for downlink. So even though it has one of the bands, I'll never be able to get full speed 3G on it.
ajm786 said:
Thanks for the answer. After doing a lot of research, I've learned that it WILL work for AT&T 3G/"4G" speeds, and will NOT work for T-Mobile 3G/"4G" speeds.
Reason being is that even though it has the 2100 band, it doesn't have the 1700 band, which T-Mobile requires for full HSPA speed. It uses one for uplink and the other for downlink. So even though it has one of the bands, I'll never be able to get full speed 3G on it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
after many years of following this stuff, and as a user of both tmo & att services, i must say you are exactly correct! i vaguely recall reading about a pentaband phone in development that would do 3g on both services, but lost track of whether it ever came to market
edit: turns out pentaband phones exist:
forums.androidcentral.com/android-hardware/170487-pentaband-phones.html
i'm surprised the RAZR wasn't developed as penta...
I just wanted to discuss if anyone is using any Xiaomi device while on any of Canada's phone carriers.
I have no problems getting mine working on 4G LTE currently across the Greater Toronto Area. I only tried this on the MIUI 7 with the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro (version I got is China Mobile/Unicom Edition) although I do believe my method will work on MIUI 8 and Global version as well. If anyone needs help setting up theirs to work on 4G LTE network in North America, just leave a reply below. And I will post How-To.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Mine is running on Qualcomm Snapdragon variant of the phone.
Technically my phone supports the following:
Network Bands/ Frequencies:
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700(AWS) / 1900 / 2100
TD-SCDMA
4G bands LTE band 1(2100), 2(1900), 3(1800), 4(1700/2100), 5(850), 7(2600), 8(900), 38(2600),
39(1900), 40(2300), 41(2500)
With my (TBA) method, the bands/ frequencies are utilized switching from 3G to 4G with ease while in Canada. *Also I'm not getting any problems with signal or data so far so good
Below is screenshots of what I can gather, how well my method works (despite Canada LTE network requires Bands with 700MHz)
I have that version China/unicom but there i have only 2g.cant use 4g it gets no service and 3g only appears the network but cant send sms/make calls/internet
skriller said:
I have that version China/unicom but there i have only 2g.cant use 4g it gets no service and 3g only appears the network but cant send sms/make calls/internet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Go to the dial pad of your phone. Type *#*#4636#*#* and press on "phone information1" if that's where the sim card is located that you are using. Scroll down until you find "Set preferred network type" and choose "Unknown".
Now go to settings of your phone and press on "sim cards & mobile networks" and press the "Sim 1" by now press "Preferred Network Type" change to 3G or LTE.
Hopefully this works for you.
Im in a bad luck.its the same lte i get emergency calls only and if choose 3g network appears but it switches back to Edge.when 3g appears data icon disapears and get no sms calls internet
I was in Canada for a couple of weeks and used my Redmi Note 3 Pro on Rogers network. 4G worked fine, didn't have to do anything special. I think it was the 2600Mhz band. I am running CM13 nightly.
skriller said:
Im in a bad luck.its the same lte i get emergency calls only and if choose 3g network appears but it switches back to Edge.when 3g appears data icon disapears and get no sms calls internet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
@skiller what is your phone carrier? and what country are you trying get it to work in?
syl0n said:
I was in Canada for a couple of weeks and used my Redmi Note 3 Pro on Rogers network. 4G worked fine, didn't have to do anything special. I think it was the 2600Mhz band. I am running CM13 nightly.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice to hear that, but some people have problems in Canada depending on what model of redmi note 3 pro they have and which phone carrier/ provider they were trying use.
Im in Portugal.the frequencies in the China unicom redmi note 3 should work here.im trying running all options until jumping to the hardware issue since i got this phone with a vendor customize rom.
Was with Vodafone but changed to MEO(Portugal Telecom) we have three operators but they all use the same frequencies.
Post how to.
imwatcinu a said:
Post how to.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Step 1, Remove SIM card.
Step 2, go to Dial Pad type *#*#4636#*#*
Step 3, press phone information1 (or 2)
Step 4, scroll down and change "Set preferred network type" to Unknown
Step 5, go to phone settings, put back SIM card in phone and press "SIM cards & mobile networks"
Step 6, press SIM 1 or SIM 2, depending which SIM you are using, press Preferred network type, set it to prefer LTE.
Step 7, quickly go back to phone information1 (or 2) and change "Set preferred network type" to LTE/GSM auto (PRL).
Hopefully this has worked for you, if not try steps again but change Step 7 to LTE/WCDMA or LTE only.
Good luck