All I've found about temporary cwm installed on stock recoveries are that they caused a lot of problems with the ICS superbricks issue, but nothing about if they were safe or not on non-ICS, for example GB.
I was planning to get CWM4 (I don't want touch CWM if possible) for the I9100 (from the CWM site, http://clockworkmod.com/rommanager , recovery-clockwork-4.0.1.5-galaxys2.zip), and install this into the stock recovery of my Zergrush-rooted GB 2.3.5 rom to get temporary CWM, and use nandroid to create security saves or to recover them back.
(The link I comment is the temporary CWM, right? )
If there's no superbrick involved, what is the risk of installing and using that temporary CWM4 version on my GB rom everytime I wanna use nandroid? Any at all?
Thank you a lot in advance!
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Hello everyone,
I have SGS2 with latest stock firmware (XWKI4) for my region.
Now, I would like to start playing with it with roms and such (yes, I already have Jig just as safety net), however I would like to creat as close as possible original configuration.
Now, I have rooted the phone with zergRush by Doomlord sucessfully and made efs backup as well as kernel image backup via HC-kTool. (This is kernel image backup right?) This way I presume I got pretty much untouched kernel image except rooting, right?
What now I would like to do is to make ROM backup and install some recovery. I know that Clockwork that comes with Rom Manager isnt exactly the same as Chainfires CW that comes with CF-Root and I know that Chainfires CW is optimized for Samsung phones (not to mention that they are not compatible with each other).
I guess my question would be is above that I did make sense, and shall I install CW from ROM Backup or get some CF-Root kernel with CW? I mean what do I lose with each solution, or any other advice how to complete ROM backup so that I can recover it if something, God forbid(knock on the wood), gets fishy?
Cheers
Kepavi said:
Hello everyone,
I have SGS2 with latest stock firmware (XWKI4) for my region.
Now, I would like to start playing with it with roms and such (yes, I already have Jig just as safety net), however I would like to creat as close as possible original configuration.
Now, I have rooted the phone with zergRush by Doomlord sucessfully and made efs backup as well as kernel image backup via HC-kTool. (This is kernel image backup right?) This way I presume I got pretty much untouched kernel image except rooting, right?
What now I would like to do is to make ROM backup and install some recovery. I know that Clockwork that comes with Rom Manager isnt exactly the same as Chainfires CW that comes with CF-Root and I know that Chainfires CW is optimized for Samsung phones (not to mention that they are not compatible with each other).
I guess my question would be is above that I did make sense, and shall I install CW from ROM Backup or get some CF-Root kernel with CW? I mean what do I lose with each solution, or any other advice how to complete ROM backup so that I can recover it if something, God forbid(knock on the wood), gets fishy?
Cheers
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If you take some time and search different threads in xda developers forum, you will find many user posting statements not to use ROM manager.
As I do not use ROM manager at all, I did not read the whole posts. That's why I do not exactly know, what the issues are about ROM manager.
(Incompatibility with many ROMs and kernels, but there must be more issues.)
I am using CWM Manager app (included in Chainfire's CF-Root kernel) or CWM5 recovery mode to create a complete system / nandroid backup.
So, in case of an emergency I only have to flash a kernel containing CWM5 recovery and restore my last system backup.
Just to be on the "safe" side, I also copied my efs folder to my external sd card.
And all my apps (+ app data) are under Titanium Backup control.
So, I recommend to use plain CWM recovery backup.
If you are not sure about ROM manager, please search the forums and make up your own mind.
Good luck !
So basically, I can instead of Rom Manager install DarkyROM2 Tool, flash some kernel with CWM support e.g. Hellcat, CF-Root, and boot to recovery and make backup of current rom(with higher compatibility), right?
Sorry if this is obvious, but I have just started with this kind of tweaks...
Hi everyone. I'm running Galaxy Ace, stock ROM Android 2.3.4
Never flashed a custom ROM before, so be gentle.
Phone already rooted (I have the superuser icon)
From reading threads here at xda, I have download these 3:
1. ClockWorkModAce.zip
2. recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.6-galaxyace-fix.zip
3. GT-I9100_ClockworkMod-Recovery_4.0.0.2.tar
I'm guessing number 3 is not for galaxy ace, right? So that leaves 1 and 2.
QUESTIONS:
1. Are 1 and 2 essentially the same thing? Which do you suggest I use?
2. These two files are on my laptop. Should I simply copy either one of them to my phone's sd card, turn off phone, boot into recovery by pressing home and power button simultaneously, select "Apply update from sd card", then select either ClockWorkModAce.zip or recovery-clockwork-5.0.2.6-galaxyace-fix.zip?
3. After installing either of the two files, and rebooting, would "nandroid" be on my phone then?
4. I believe nandroid backs up EVERYTHING into sd card (recovery image, right?). Can I then copy it to my thumb drive or laptop so I can erase it from the sd card?
5. If I want to get back to my stock ROM, is it done by booting into the custom recovery (like the clockworkmod) and selecting an option there?
6. After going back to stock ROM, how would I go back to stock recovery too?
7. For clarification, when you guys are saying cwm or clockworkmod, do you mean ROM Manager? Because a lot of guys are warning me against it! I just found out clockworkmod is the name of the developer, not the app.
8. From the ROM Manager page at market.android.com ,
Samsung users: You must flash a Clockwork compatible kernel first (see XDA forums)
Is this really necessary?? So much prerequisites! =P
9. Should I install ICS Beta Full on my Galaxy Ace Android 2.3.4???
10. Already rooted, so how much time will it take from installing cwm to installing the custom ROM? I want to know so I won't panic
11. If I install cwm, does the recovery automatically becomes the custom recovery?
12. What does a full wipe mean and do I do it with the stock recovery or with the custom recovery?
Please be as detailed as possible, and use small words.
Appreciate it guys!
Thanks a lot!
first zip is for cwm4 official one
second is cwm5.. i personally prefer cwm4 as had no problems with it
cwm5 failed to take backup when i tried to several times
and i have flashed all roms that claims to do it with cwm5 with cwm4 with no problems at all
you can copy backup images to laptop but DO NOT modify names of any folder as it will result in mismatch of md5 so copy directly folder as it is without modification
ROM MANAGER IS ***** DO NOT INSTALL ON SGA or else you loose your device damn
you can flash it on stock kernel as well
if you want to go back to stock rom from restoring backup then your backup must be taken after converting filesystem to ext4 or else it will fail..
so before backing up flash cf-root and convert fs to ext4 to save time of flashing stock from odin and then restoring backups
thats your option to install cm9 on phone as its not stable and needs many changes at this time.. if you are ok with bugs then you can
1. yes u should delete it. judging by the name its for sgs2, would brick ur phone instantly if flashing that one.
2. i dont really sure about cwm 5.0.2.6 (ur second file) either it can be flash from stock recovery or not but the cwm 4.0.0.6 (ur 1st file) definitely can. and i think its "install zip from sdcard" in stock recovery to flash it.
3. yes.
4. yes, its located in /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup.
5. yes.
6. by flashing stock rom via odin.
7. nope. here if we said cwm or clockworkmod, its referring to the recovery itself (clockworkmod recovery). rom manager is different thing, a tool used to flash cwm or rom. and yes, u should avoid it as countless sga already bricked because of it. and yes, clockworkmod is nickname of the guy who created it and named it as clockworkmod recovery, and here we just called it cwm.
8. again, avoid using rom manager
and u probably wanna read this
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile/what-is-clockworkmod-recovery-and-how-to-use-it-on-android-complete-guide/
1.First one is official CWM recovery..Its v4..Second one is unofficial CWM recovery..Its v5..I didnt have any problem with them both..But,you should not rename the backups you take with cwm5,it will give you a md5 mismatch error when you do that..
2.Yes..Just copy the file to the sd card
3.Nandroid is a feature of CWM...So,yes.When you flash cwm,you get Nandroid backup
4.Yes...It backsup everything on your phone.But as amit said,Dont rename them
5.By stock,if what you mean is,an untouched Firmware,like the one you got from the factory..Yes..But if you are going to flash any roms,it may convert the system partition to ext4,which will result in a bootloop if you try to restore the stock you have now.So,a better option will be to flash with Odin
6.If you go back to stock,you would still have cwm as your recovery..If you want your stock recovery back,you will have to do a flash with Odin(But,trust me,You will never feel to go back to a complete stock rom and the stock recovery after you start playing around with the other cm7 roms
7.CWM is a recovery..ROM Manager is an application..ClockWorkMod recovery is not a developer..Koushik Dutta is the developer of both CWM recovery and Rom Manager..If you have any thought about using ROM manager,then i suggest that you clean that thought because ROM manager does NOT support Galaxy Ace and if you use ROM manager to flash a rom,you are going to BRICK your device
8.Nothing like that,from what i know.I never flashed any kernel Right after i rooted my ace,i flashed cwm recovery..I didnt do anything else
9.Its your choice..The Myth Ics is an awesome rom
phew....
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1.First one is official CWM recovery..Its v4..Second one is unofficial CWM recovery..Its v5..I didnt have any problem with them both..But,you should not rename the backups you take with cwm5,it will give you a md5 mismatch error when you do that..
2.Yes..Just copy the file to the sd card
3.Nandroid is a feature of CWM...So,yes.When you flash cwm,you get Nandroid backup
4.Yes...It backsup everything on your phone.But as amit said,Dont rename them
5.By stock,if what you mean is,an untouched Firmware,like the one you got from the factory..Yes..But if you are going to flash any roms,it may convert the system partition to ext4,which will result in a bootloop if you try to restore the stock you have now.So,a better option will be to flash with Odin
6.If you go back to stock,you would still have cwm as your recovery..If you want your stock recovery back,you will have to do a flash with Odin(But,trust me,You will never feel to go back to a complete stock rom and the stock recovery after you start playing around with the other cm7 roms
7.CWM is a recovery..ROM Manager is an application..ClockWorkMod recovery is not a developer..Koushik Dutta is the developer of both CWM recovery and Rom Manager..If you have any thought about using ROM manager,then i suggest that you clean that thought because ROM manager does NOT support Galaxy Ace and if you use ROM manager to flash a rom,you are going to BRICK your device
8.Nothing like that,from what i know.I never flashed any kernel Right after i rooted my ace,i flashed cwm recovery..I didnt do anything else
9.Its your choice..The Myth Ics is an awesome rom
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if you want to backupp your stock original firmware and want to restore wit cwm
download cf root
and then use ext4 manager
to convert system to ext4
then wen done you can backupp your stock original rom
and restore it with no problems ( ive used this a lot )
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The Serious MOD V1
fir galaxy ace
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The Serious MOD V0
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about number 5 and using odin in general
Hi. Thanks a lot guys for your effort in helping out a newbie.
I'm a bit confused about using odin. Is odin like the "safer" way to flash ROMs?
I know I can flash a ROM via booting into recovery, then "install update from sd card", and selecting the ROM. Does Odin do the same thing? When exactly should Odin be used? Only when I want to go back to my original stock firmware AND the original/stock recovery?
Thanks!
As far I know, ODIN is only for flashing stock ROM's.
And well, even if it can be used to flash custom rom's,please do not use it. ODIN can brick your phone. Flashing via recovery is the most safest way
further clarification
Hey guys, thanks a lot. Please clear these up for me:
1. If I am now on stock ROM (never flashed a custom ROM before), then I flash a custom ROM like TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full, and wish to go back to my stock ROM (which was backed up with clockworkmod recovery), do I simply boot into cwm recovery and restore the stock ROM or do I use Odin?
2. If I am now on stock ROM (never flashed a custom ROM before), then I flash a custom ROM like TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full, and wish to try another custom ROM like cyanogenMod, should I just flash cyanogenMod with cwm recovery? Meaning, from TheMyth ICS Beta 2 Full straight to CyanogenMod via cwm recovery? Or do I have to go back to stock ROM, as well as stock recovery, by using Odin, and then flash cyangogenMod via stock recovery?
3. If I am now on stock ROM and wish to upgrade to an official android version thru samfirmware.com, do I simply flash it with the stock recovery or do I have to use Odin?
Thanks a lot guys!
1- yes
2- yes, straight away. no need to go to stock rom
3- odin
I recall reading somewhere that installing the CWM recovery rom included with Rom Manager (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.rommanager) on a YP-G70 (USA 5.0) results in 'bad things'
My questions:
Is this true? Will it make a mess of my device that's a headache to fix?
What is it about that version of CWM that causes the problems?
1. I've seen people have problems when the flashed CWM intened for another device.
2. Every CWM seems to be custom made so another CWM won't work on our players
There is no "official" CWM for player 4.0, 5.0... ROM Manager is useless (unless you want to use it to easily boot in recovery once you have CWM). You'll need to flash a custom kernel in the dev section that includes a modified version of CWM to work with our players.
Thanks Chris. I'd already flashed Entropy's CWM release so no problems there. I was just hoping Rom Manager's might work, so I could do some that stuff without rebooting (at least until after I've told it what I want to do. Non-touch interfaces are sooo low class, don't you know?)
First the specs. Samsung Galaxy s2 GT-9100 running Android 4.1.2 Build XWLSH Kernal 3.0.31-889555
Need a touch of help here. Finally had the nerve to root the GS2 on the weekend and clean out all the crud not required... so far so good
Had no success in attempts to install CWM Recovery through ROM Manager (Recovery setup > ClockworkMod Recovery > Galaxy S2 i9100 > "does not have an officially supported...."). Also found the Recovery builds on the official site but no guides whatsoever as to how to install... oh so helpful
Finally came across a guide at galaxys2root[dot]com on installing recovery from download mode using Odin. Ran through the process and ended up stuck at boot with no way of proceeding. After a panic session, was able to recover from back-up (thank god I backed up the ROM and all data before attempting to install CWM recovery). Now I'm right back where I started with no idea how to go replacing the stock recovery.
Can someone please shine some light on the situation? At a complete loss as to how to get the CWM Recovery on the phone without bricking it.
Cheers in advance
1) Don't use Rom Manager. At all. Uninstall it. It will break recovery & cause bootloop eventually if you continue to use it.
2) Thread stickied near the top of Q&A has all the info you need. Essentially, any CWM you flash independent of the kernel will only persist until the next reboot. Reason being recovery is baked into the kernel on the S2 & isn't a separate partition like other phones. So you flash a custom kernel, you end up with rooted phone + permanent CWM.
MistahBungle said:
1) Don't use Rom Manager. At all. Uninstall it. It will break recovery & cause bootloop eventually if you continue to use it.
2) Thread stickied near the top of Q&A has all the info you need. Essentially, any CWM you flash independent of the kernel will only persist until the next reboot. Reason being recovery is baked into the kernel on the S2 & isn't a separate partition like other phones. So you flash a custom kernel, you end up with rooted phone + permanent CWM.
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A huge thankyou for pointing me in the right direction. I had since the original post found Mobile Odin (invested in the pro version) and installed the CWM Recovery from the their site... only for it to revert back to stock recover screen At least now I know why.
After much hunting around - I notice the stickied posts don't make it easy to find the correct kernel for for the AU i9100 - I found the PhilZ cmw6 kernel build.... used Mobile Odin to flash and all is now rosy.
Now question.... I was under the impression that ROM Manager was required as an install with CWM. I use Online Nandroid Backup to create full ROM/Data backups and trying out Nandroid Manager for selective recovery.... is that all I need then now that CWM is successfully installed in recovery?
Cheers again
Can't speak to those products as I've never used them, but Rom Manager & the S2 is a big no no. Doing nandroid backups, which is essentially a 'snapshot' of your phone at the time you make it, by simply booting into CWRecovery & also backing up apps/app settings with Titanium has always done the job for me.
Would the following work as a way to try out, for example Cyanogenmod 10. I am currently running a 4.1.2 install (pretty much stock just rooted/cwm via Philz as per the tutorial). I have a complete backup made via Philz recovery of this rom along with the kernel (which I believe is still stock from that) and efs.
1) Install a custom kernel (eg. dorimanx 9.x?) via the Philz recovery.
2) Install cm-10.2-20140102-NIGHTLY-i9100.zip.
3) To return to the original rom, reflash the original kernel (with whatever CWM is included in dorimanx) - then reflash the backed up rom via the same recovery?
I hope this is clear enough a question.
I believe you have to flash a stock rom through Odin, to return to complete stock. Just flashing a stock kernel isn't enough, and is surely not going to work (so don't do it).There are also tutorials how to remove the yellow triangle afterwards.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
Donnie Sins said:
I believe you have to flash a stock rom through Odin, to return to complete stock. Just flashing a stock kernel isn't enough, and is surely not going to work (so don't do it).There are also tutorials how to remove the yellow triangle afterwards.
Please correct me if I'm wrong
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This is the part I'm most unsure of. Ideally I'm trying to figure out the process that lets me go from CM10.2 (and whatever recovery) to the point I am running the backed up rom rooted with PhilZ-cwm6-XWLSW-XEU-5.06.1-signed.zip again. Very confused on how to do so.
TopherBrink said:
This is the part I'm most unsure of. Ideally I'm trying to figure out the process that lets me go from CM10.2 (and whatever recovery) to the point I am running the backed up rom rooted with PhilZ-cwm6-XWLSW-XEU-5.06.1-signed.zip again. Very confused on how to do so.
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Topher,
If you have rooted and cwm via philz, you already have a modified kernel installed. I believe the philz-cwm6 should be as close to stock kernel with the CWM incorporated. You don't need to add another kernel, because it will be replaced when you install the custom ROM. You should just be able to flash the cm10.2 via philz or via odin. You can then flash the dormanix kernel if you want - can't comment on that kernel - or if it has cwm included.
I would also suggest that you consider backing up you /efs folder (one with you imei information etc) prior to flashing any custom roms. People have been using hcKtool to do the backups and also an actual copy as well.
Depending on the custom rom, you may have connection problems with your network. So you may want to consider keeping a copy of your modem.bin file from your stock rom handy in case you need to flash onto the custom rom.
If you want to go back to stock, then you just need to flash the stock rom - you can check sammobile website for your stock rom or use the backup that you made.
I should point out that I have yet to do any of the above - I gathered this from reading the forums. Some more experienced forum users can add corrections. I rooted my phone a couple of months ago and now considering installing custom rom in the next couple of months.
Thanks.
if u flash a custom rom (cm10.2 for example), it already included kernel as well. so if u want to try out other custom kernel, i can flash it after you are done flashing a custom rom but make sure it is compatible with your android version. (u cant use custom kernel that not support android 4.3 with a custom rom running android 4.3)