I foolishly took my new S3 for a swim the other day, and now I seem to have a phone that will not connect to the network anymore.
Events so far:-
1. Took phone for 90min swim while turned on
2. Stripped, cleaned and dried phone
3. Phone seems to work in all respects but will not connect to network
4. IMEI is still there, SIM card reads data. Connect to network says connected, but when I try to make call says not connected
5. Left phone off without battery in overnight
6. Now have null IMEI and will not read SIM
So after searching the web and these forums I have tried
1. Rooting Phone
2. GSII Repair
3. Blowing stock ROM in over the stock Orange one already there (This phone had never been changed from the factory settings until swimming trip)
Still to no avail. I do have the IMEI written down, but I do not have an EFS backup.
Is there anyway I can recreate the EFS partition with my IMEI, or is this phone now a pretty ornament as far as GSM connectivity goes?
The best thing you can do is, disassemble it for as much as possible (if that can be done without damaging it)..
then clean the PCB with pure Alcohol, that way you rinse off all the dirt/minerals etc that will cause corrotion soon otherwise.
I'm not sure if this is solely a software problem, if there is dirt in ur phone shortening stuff (like anything of the radio)
you can get weird problems, i had this with a tiny bit of dust one day in a old phone. Therefor i think its a hware problem
I would wash it in alcohol anyway, after taking off the screen, and for the rest as much as possible.. then dry it for 8hrs +/- (alcohol vaporates easily). After that , see if you still have software problems.
Xssjaakie said:
The best thing you can do is, disassemble it for as much as possible (if that can be done without damaging it)..
then clean the PCB with pure Alcohol, that way you rinse off all the dirt/minerals etc that will cause corrotion soon otherwise.
I'm not sure if this is solely a software problem, if there is dirt in ur phone shortening stuff (like anything of the radio)
you can get weird problems, i had this with a tiny bit of dust one day in a old phone. Therefor i think its a hware problem
I would wash it in alcohol anyway, after taking off the screen, and for the rest as much as possible.. then dry it for 8hrs +/- (alcohol vaporates easily). After that , see if you still have software problems.
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Thanks I think it's as clean as it can be. No sign of any physical damage. Stripped right down to seperate pluggable components. It is either an electrical problem now or NV data being lost I think.
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So i see there are a few other threads but none that i found were quite like this. My phone randomly restarts and goes to the white screen that says stick together and won't load back up, also when i reset or take the battery out unless i have held the phone infront of my AC in my car or put it in the fridge/freezer it will not boot back up, it has heat issues but it's not actually that hot, i used to play playstation games and it would get much hotter and not freeze like this, it randomly started happening a couple of months after I got it.
it will freeze often in any temperature that is not considered cold, even in room temperature it will do it, any time i try to load my playstation emulator or use the internet it has a very high chance or resetting and not booting,
if the phone gets warm at all though it's a garuntee that it is going to happen, it just depends on when, i could just be finishing a call, sending a text etc, it will happen, and the only cure is putting it in the fridge.
i'm going to guess I have a virus of some sort or something really messed up in the ROM, but i've switched ROM's and it still does it,
should i do the SD card hspl back to SPL and try to find a legit original rom copy or is there a better solution for this? i.e deleting all my addons and going with a different ROM?
my rom history is TOUCH XTREME, Miri and Dinik(this is where it started) and now Energy(it is still happening here)
might be a good idea to go back to stock, though you dont need to remove hspl at this stage, just flash your phones original rom over usb, and have a real close look at the battery pins, they can often get bent leading to all kinds of reboot issues.
If its still the same under stock rom, then maybe remove hspl (no need for sd card flashing, can remove it using hspl2/hspl3(for tmous))
one of my pins was actually bent a while back! i bent it back to the shape it's supposed to be and used a safety pin to widen it back up so it looks like the rest, do you think that caused permanent damage? and if so is there something i can do to the pins to make it work right again? and not reset so easily
Well, i reflashed the stock SPL and ROM and yeah it won't even turn back on, just stays on the white stick together screen. it's done, being replaced by tmobile next week.
hmm, could be, perhaps if the pin is cracked a little, affecting power flow. not sure what to suggest.
I got the exact same problem as lllpulselll. I have already done a lot of things but none of them worked for me.
I did an hard reset
Tryed a lot of different rom's
Used the telephone al while without SD-card but still the same problem.
But I read somewhere that ik could also been your Sim-card, is that logic or not?
And by me also one of the pins by the battery is not right so I will that try to.
(Sorry for that bad English)
looks similar to overheating, you could install BattClock (it can monitor batery temperature) to check whether the self-reset happens at the same conditions,
had the same issue, finished with new mainboard (replaced under warranty),
during worst moments before repair I had to put my Leo in the fridge for few minutes before it could restart
p107r0 said:
looks similar to overheating, you could install BattClock (it can monitor batery temperature) to check whether the self-reset happens at the same conditions,
had the same issue, finished with new mainboard (replaced under warranty),
during worst moments before repair I had to put my Leo in the fridge for few minutes before it could restart
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That's probably it then, probably bent the metal things connecting to the battery and messed up the flow causing the battery to overheat or think it's overheating somehow. sucks that that is all that's wrong with it and it has to be replaced, wish the prongs could be repaired.
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probably bent the metal things connecting to the battery
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not necesserilly so don't blame yourself - mine had faulty mainboard (not battery) probably from the very beginning, but as it was purchased in winter, the symptoms did not show up until late spring, when outside temps grew
Today, my LG Optimus decieded to go for a swim. This helped me restore it to full functionality [except for some watermarks (How do I fix this? Please help.)]
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wikihow .com/Save-a-Wet-Cell-Phone Read this BEFORE continuing. Now, assuming you've read this, followed the instructions and for most of this, your phone turns on. There may be errors. These may help even if your phone isnt wet.
1)My phone and other cant read/detect my SD Card.
Solution (Worked for me): Heat up the SD Card slot with your breath. Then heat up the SD Card in the same way. Or use a hair dryer. The reason to this is that it increases your SDs lifespan. You should be ok, but just in case, back up all of your data to a computer.
2) My phone wont charge.
Soulution (tested and works): Rub the copper connections on your phone and battery, while they are seperate of corse with a pin or other non eletric metal. If not, check your charger.
3)My phones sound stopped working.
Solution (tested and works): Rub a Q-Tip in the headphone part of your phone. As easy as it sounds, it works. If not, reboot your phone. I learned to reboot because your phone might think that your phone is connected to headphones.
Hope I helped, and if you need help with something else concerning your wet phone, Ill be sure to try and help.
Whatever you do:
Dont freeze the water or evaporate it. Evaporating it can have harmful effects, leaving behind harmful growths and give it a foggy screen. Freezing it into ice expands its mass, shoving delicate components out of the way.
Back Story: I have a rooted, unlocked M8. An a**hole coworker of mine threw me in a pool while it was in my pocket last night. Got it out and put into rice immediately.
Now phone would turn on and seemed to want to work aside from just being slow to certain touches but other than that it was ok. I started to notice that it was acting up and crashing so i though it might be some sort of software issue. go into recovery and wipe everything to install a new rom but after install using Philz, it just right back to the old rom. No data is missing and the system is not changed. I even tried to restore an old back up but nothing sticks. I get no errors when wiping or installing so I am at a loss right now.
Any new ideas?
That guy owes you a new phone, period. If he is going to do something so stupid, he needs to learn the lesson that there are consequences.
When my wife dunked her iPhone in the toilet, the Genius Bar employee told her that the phone might be fine, or some things might be broken, or that it might seem fine for a while, then just suddenly stop working. Its like a time bomb, you never know if your phone is going to just stop working now. So the guy should replace the phone.
The M8 is water resistant to some degree (but I don't know about total immersion). I'd dry it for a lot more than overnight. If any water go inside the phone, I don't think drying overnight is sufficient. And any remaining water is a possible point of short circuit or corrosion. Power off and dry it for a day or 2 more.
Hi! My Realme7 (RMX2155) drown in the sea. The only problem is non-working touchscreen (it loads in normal or recovery mode, connects wifi). Official service confirmed that phone is unrecoverable (problems with motherboard).
Stock recovery. No root, no usb debugging.
I need to recover user data (mainly photos) from it. As touchscreen is not working, I can't login to enable any settings (USB debugging, MTP, PTP).
I tried to:
plug in mouse, but OTG is disabled by default (need touchscreen to enable it in settings).
flash twrp recovery, but it returned red state (needs bootloader to be unlocked?)
made a full ROM backup and tried several recovery tools on it, but I see abracadabra in file names and in file content (see screenshot, encryption?).
I've no more ideas, pls help
BIG trouble, you did the wrong and worst thing...
Pull battery immediately.
Salt water is highly corrosive especially with energized circuits.
Your only hope is to pull battery and submerged in warm RO warm for 30 minutes, replace water and repeat. Move it around and try to completely flush out all salt. This will be impossible to completely do but it may be enough to allow temporary operation.
Drain water. Compressed clean dry low pressure air helps.
If it doesn't have a LCD display* flush liberally with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol minimum 96%.
Then displace as much of the alcohol as possible. Place in a warm, DRY room with a fan directly on it for a minimum of 4 days to dry.
Reconnect battery and attempt boot up. Even if it boots it will fail sooner or latter from the salt caused damage. Retrieve data asap.
No time to dilly-dally Mr Wick... tic-tok
Alternatively if this fails or if the data must be recovered, hire a data recovery service that will pull the chipset and attempt to retrieve the data.
The chipset with the data on it is most likely a BGA form factor. If the water got under it, it's corroding away its contact pads underneath.
*never get solvents of any kind near a LCD display. It will poison the liquid crystals.
blackhawk said:
BIG trouble, you did the wrong and worst thing...
Pull battery immediately.
Salt water is highly corrosive especially with energized circuits.
Your only hope is to pull battery and submerged in warm RO warm for 30 minutes, replace water and repeat. Move it around and try to completely flush out all salt. This will be impossible to completely do but it may be enough to allow temporary operation.
Drain water. Compressed clean dry low pressure air helps.
If it doesn't have a LCD display* flush liberally with anhydrous isopropyl alcohol minimum 96%.
Then displace as much of the alcohol as possible. Place in a warm, DRY room with a fan directly on it for a minimum of 4 days to dry.
Reconnect battery and attempt boot up. Even if it boots it will fail sooner or latter from the salt caused damage. Retrieve data asap.
No time to dilly-dally Mr Wick... tic-tok
Alternatively if this fails or if the data must be recovered, hire a data recovery service that will pull the chipset and attempt to retrieve the data.
The chipset with the data on it is most likely a BGA form factor. If the water got under it, it's corroding away its contact pads underneath.
*never get solvents of any kind near a LCD display. It will poison the liquid crystals.
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The problem is - it's too late It happened more than a month ago. I couldn't pull the battery - it's non removable (it was the first thing I tried). It was not easy to remove back cover without equipment (it is glued). Official service tried to repair the phone, they flushed out salt, changed screen, connectors, but with no result - motherboard was damaged already. However it still works completely, except the touchscreen.
I gave up trying to repair the phone, I just want to recover data - in any way.
Hire the recovery service is a good idea, but quite expensive. That will be my last hope
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The problem is - it's too late It happened more than a month ago. I couldn't pull the battery - it's non removable (it was the first thing I tried). It was not easy to remove back cover without equipment (it is glued). Official service tried to repair the phone, they flushed out salt, changed screen, connectors, but with no result - motherboard was damaged already. However it still works completely, except the touchscreen.
I gave up trying to repair the phone, I just want to recover data - in any way.
Hire the recovery service is a good idea, but quite expensive. That will be my last hope
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At that point break the rear cover off if need be as every minute counts.
Even with quick action is likely already dead anyway. The salt leaves a residue that attracts moisture. It may have given you enough time though to retrieve the data latter when it was flushed and dried.
See what kind of quotes you get. Probably starts at at least $400.
Hope that repair shop told you any repairs only be temporary at best... salt water is insidious.
Good day,
I would very much appreciate help with the following.
The screen on my Xperia 1 III is no longer working after, what I assume to be, water damage that entered via the USB port.
Previously, I have never had an issue with that before and it was whilst waiting for the USB port to dry out that the phone switched off and upon restarting green lines were flickering across the screen and it did not get beyond the Sony logo.
I have tried drying the phone out with silica gel for >48 hours.
Following that there is a single, steady, green line across the top of the screen but nothing else and the screen/phone switches off a few seconds later.
The situation is:
USB debugging is not enabled.
Bluetooth was not enabled at the time of the issue.
The phone was not paired or set to allow data transfer with the laptop I currently have.
I’ve installed the Android SDK (including ADB tools) on the laptop.
The phone was visible n Device Manager and the Sony drivers were then installed.
However, because USB debugging is not enabled it failed to show up when the ‘ADB Devices’ command was run.
Two phone recovery applications were tried but they were not useful and only appeared to be of any value in this situation if it was one of a limited number of Samsung models.
I may have misunderstood but starting in ClockworkMod Recovery mode doesn’t seem to be an option for the Xperia 1 III as the Sony ‘unlock bootloader’ - https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader - should have been done beforehand.
What options are there for:
a) Getting the data, Due to the fact it has personal data I am accepting of paying up to £200 providing that I can definitely copy my data over and erase the data or use the phone afterwards.
A replacement LCD + digitiser seems to be around £400 which is out of my budget and, whilst it seems to be ‘only’ water damage to the screen, may not be guaranteed to work.
Or,
b) Erasing it completely. I have had a bad experience with a previous phone insurer years ago when I could not read a phones screen and they had kept the old damaged phone on and collecting data for a long time – a fact I only discovered when checking my Google account and seeing the list of connected devices and the dates… Consequently, I do not want this to happen again and I am concerned that signing out of the phone, from my Google account, is not sufficient.
Many thanks in advance.
Pull the battery asap. Dry it out completely before reapplying power. Think days not hours.
If that fails you be boned.
Otherwise only a data recovery specialist who can hot air the SOC off has a chance at recovering the data.
Assuming the PCB isn't already corroded away, I think your options are one of:
Pry off or break open the back then let it dry somewhere warm
Put it in a vacuum chamber for several hours to evaporate the water. The pump will need fresh oil because only a high vacuum evaporates water. (People use these to degas composite adhesives and casting mix)
Wrap the phone in paper and place it under dry ice so that the water freezes. Boot it and copy everything off while it's still under dry ice. CO2 that gets into the water will form a weak acid and likely destroy the phone once it warms up.
As stated above, get that battery out ASAP.
What I have done in the past with my 1iii (I have broken the screen before and it wouldn't display anything) is connected a usb dongle that has usb, hdmi and ethernet port all on it.
I had a usb mouse and a display connected via the HDMI port on the dongle. I was able to boot the phone with the broken screen unplugged but the external screen and mouse connected.
When a external screen is detected the phone defaults to a mirror display of the main screen.
You can then use the mouse to enter your pin and the external screen and operate the phone that way.
This only works if your usb port is working. Since you state that the computer detected the phone I'd presume that the usb port is working still.
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Assuming the PCB isn't already corroded away, I think your options are one of:
Pry off or break open the back then let it dry somewhere warm
Put it in a vacuum chamber for several hours to evaporate the water. The pump will need fresh oil because only a high vacuum evaporates water. (People use these to degas composite adhesives and casting mix)
Wrap the phone in paper and place it under dry ice so that the water freezes. Boot it and copy everything off while it's still under dry ice. CO2 that gets into the water will form a weak acid and likely destroy the phone once it warms up.
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Dry ice is bad plan. It can fracture solder joints and is beyond the storage specs of all the chipsets let alone operating specs. Not to mention the Li will have little available power.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used as a drying agent. Flush with it then drive all the access as possible in a dry, warm room. Allow to dry for 2 days with a fan on it.
Njal31 said:
Good day,
I would very much appreciate help with the following.
The screen on my Xperia 1 III is no longer working after, what I assume to be, water damage that entered via the USB port.
Previously, I have never had an issue with that before and it was whilst waiting for the USB port to dry out that the phone switched off and upon restarting green lines were flickering across the screen and it did not get beyond the Sony logo.
I have tried drying the phone out with silica gel for >48 hours.
Following that there is a single, steady, green line across the top of the screen but nothing else and the screen/phone switches off a few seconds later.
The situation is:
USB debugging is not enabled.
Bluetooth was not enabled at the time of the issue.
The phone was not paired or set to allow data transfer with the laptop I currently have.
I’ve installed the Android SDK (including ADB tools) on the laptop.
The phone was visible n Device Manager and the Sony drivers were then installed.
However, because USB debugging is not enabled it failed to show up when the ‘ADB Devices’ command was run.
Two phone recovery applications were tried but they were not useful and only appeared to be of any value in this situation if it was one of a limited number of Samsung models.
I may have misunderstood but starting in ClockworkMod Recovery mode doesn’t seem to be an option for the Xperia 1 III as the Sony ‘unlock bootloader’ - https://developer.sony.com/develop/open-devices/get-started/unlock-bootloader - should have been done beforehand.
What options are there for:
a) Getting the data, Due to the fact it has personal data I am accepting of paying up to £200 providing that I can definitely copy my data over and erase the data or use the phone afterwards.
A replacement LCD + digitiser seems to be around £400 which is out of my budget and, whilst it seems to be ‘only’ water damage to the screen, may not be guaranteed to work.
Or,
b) Erasing it completely. I have had a bad experience with a previous phone insurer years ago when I could not read a phones screen and they had kept the old damaged phone on and collecting data for a long time – a fact I only discovered when checking my Google account and seeing the list of connected devices and the dates… Consequently, I do not want this to happen again and I am concerned that signing out of the phone, from my Google account, is not sufficient.
Many thanks in advance.
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You can seek help from sony. The manufactor can backup your full data through 9008 mode even your phone brick. If your phone is in care period it will cost less. Then you can fix the hardware problem and restore data.
cscomic said:
You can seek help from sony. The manufactor can backup your full data through 9008 mode even your phone brick. If your phone is in care period it will cost less. Then you can fix the hardware problem and restore data.
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Not with fried mobo. A data recovery specialist might be able to...
blackhawk said:
Dry ice is bad plan. It can fracture solder joints and is beyond the storage specs of all the chipsets let alone operating specs. Not to mention the Li will have little available power.
Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol can be used as a drying agent. Flush with it then drive all the access as possible in a dry, warm room. Allow to dry for 2 days with a fan on it.
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Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol on a mostly sealed phone won't leave it in any better condition than dry ice will. It's great for washing modern PCBs but it eventually destroys adhesives, optics, conformal coatings, and some electronic components. You can't easily dry things out by putting them next to alcohol either. The alcohol will migrate towards the water faster than the water will migrate towards the alcohol.
Opening the phone is the only plan where it might survive long-term. A vacuum chamber is the second best bet.
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Anhydrous isopropyl alcohol on a mostly sealed phone won't leave it in any better condition than dry ice will. It's great for washing modern PCBs but it eventually destroys adhesives, optics, conformal coatings, and some electronic components. You can't easily dry things out by putting them next to alcohol either. The alcohol will migrate towards the water faster than the water will migrate towards the alcohol.
Opening the phone is the only plan where it might survive long-term. A vacuum chamber is the second best bet.
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You know what happens when water freezes? It expands... forcefully.
The first thing that must be done is to disconnect the battery to stop electrolysis induce corrosion of the power pathways. Sooner is better.
You must open it up to flush.
Anhydrous isopropyl absorbs all moisture which is why you do it in a dry room. I've used it for over 20 years on electronic assemblies. Any conformal coating is irrelevant at this point. Best judgment should be used. Adhesives wouldn't be damaged from a brief exposure. The cams and if it gets between the display and glass it will leave a stain residue, again irrelevant in this case.
Any water will destroy the device and it will not operate properly if water is present.
Most of the isopropyl will have evaporated in a few hours in a warm (80-120F), dry room with a fan on it. Low pressure air can be used at first to help drive the alcohol out, carefully.
The most important thing is to purge moisture from the BGA chipset contacts including the SOC and the power section. Water will also linger on the ribbon cable connector contacts.