Hello Everyone
Sorry if this was posted before, but I'm planning on switching from Xperia Arc S to Xperia P
I was reading through online reports / reviews from here, CNET, Sony's official website.
and I'm kinda confused, I know it's for sure better than the Arc S but I was wondering is it really worth upgrading?!
The main reason for me to upgrade is to avoid the lags / freezes I'm getting on ICS even after removing bloatwares, adding build.prop values and running init.d scripts (unless there is something else I'm missing).
So what do you think guys is it worth the upgrade?! Are there any stupid lags or are the Dual-core CPU and 1GB RAM doing their job?!
Also is Sony WhiteMagic technology really helping users to see under strong light? I can barely see my Arc S screen when I'm not under a roof !!
What about GPU?! I read a while back that Adreno 205 (which is included in the Arc S) is better than Mali-400MP unless that fact is changed
Thanks in advance
DeepUnknown said:
I read a while back that Adreno 205 (which is included in the Arc S) is better than Mali-400MP unless that fact is changed
Thanks in advance
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Adreno 205 is way weaker than Mali-400. The fact that Galaxy S3 uses Mali-400 is enough. Adreno 220 or 225 could match Mali-400, but Adreno 205 can't.
STrider90 said:
Adreno 205 is way weaker than Mali-400. The fact that Galaxy S3 uses Mali-400 is enough. Adreno 220 or 225 could match Mali-400, but Adreno 205 can't.
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WOW I didn't see that coming !! Thanks for pointing it out for me
What about the dual-core CPU?! is it doing it's job?! CNET Review made me somewhat confused :-/
Surely dual core means something no lags whatsoever for me on offial ICS
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dewanshu93 said:
Surely dual core means something no lags whatsoever for me on offial ICS
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Thanks
I'm sorry for all the questions but I still have more
I read here that unlocking the bootloader is not really recommended for Xperia P?
Well I did that for my Arc S so I can flash custom kernels and always be rooted, I can't stay without root or else I wouldn't be able to test a single thing of Droid Manager :-/
Or else I wouldn't care about rooting the phone since I don't flash themes nor mods, I like the OS the way it is
I go to Xperia P from Xperia Neo. Xperia P is fast enought and not need for custom ROMs! In games Xperia p is faster as Xperia Neo with overclocked CPU up to 1,8 ghz, for example, Dead space on Neo lag in scenes with monsters, but on Xperia P whole game go smooth!
Lietotajs said:
I go to Xperia P from Xperia Neo. Xperia P is fast enought and not need for custom ROMs! In games Xperia p is faster as Xperia Neo with overclocked CPU up to 1,8 ghz, for example, Dead space on Neo lag in scenes with monsters, but on Xperia P whole game go smooth!
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Well I don't really care about overclocking since I rarely overclock my Arc S, besides, it's a dual core CPU for a smart phone OS I don't think there will be a need for overclocking taking in consideration that I only play Temple Run, Unblock me when I'm board :angel:. I was just somewhat afraid from not finding it's performance smooth enough, but after all the feedbacks I got I think I'm gonna head for one in the next couple of days
it has good performance for a phone, it's beautiful, and with official ICS you have extended standby mode that can make your phone live some more days, I mean with "normal" phone use you can stay up to 2days more, so you charge it every 3 days, maybe 4 if you don't use it, that's quite good, IMO it's the perfect phone because of the price and it's 4' screen (above it's too large for me)
About the whitemagic tech, it's really good. Even when the sun shines on the screen I can see it. And not only barely see it like with the iphone 4 or the x10, it is really bright! I would dare to say that it's the brightest screen on the market for now. Else the phone is really smooth, does not lag, only right after boot for me, cuz I added a huge load of widgets. I scroll once through the homescreens and it's gone
That's exactly what I needed to know
Thanks guys for your feedbacks
Ok I haven't yet got the Xperia P
but I was reading online and I found it has Bluetooth 3?! and "Has a Corning® Gorilla® Glass display" ?! is that true?!
DeepUnknown said:
Ok I haven't yet got the Xperia P
but I was reading online and I found it has Bluetooth 3?! and "Has a Corning® Gorilla® Glass display" ?! is that true?!
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No, Bluetooth 2.1 and a hardened glass display that is produced by Sony in-house.
Thank u guys for your recommendations I got the phone.and.its amazing
Oneast question what will I lose if I unlock the bootloader?! On Arc S I only lost TrackId, what about facebook inside Xperia and other Sony extras?!
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DeepUnknown said:
Thank u guys for your recommendations I got the phone.and.its amazing
Oneast question what will I lose if I unlock the bootloader?! On Arc S I only lost TrackId, what about facebook inside Xperia and other Sony extras?!
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You only lose parts of TrackID (downloading album art)
K900 said:
You only lose parts of TrackID (downloading album art)
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Thanks
I have unlocked bootloader, so far nothing stopped working for me, and I didn't yet use TrackID
Thank you for the info
DeepUnknown said:
Hello Everyone
Sorry if this was posted before, but I'm planning on switching from Xperia Arc S to Xperia P
I was reading through online reports / reviews from here, CNET, Sony's official website.
and I'm kinda confused, I know it's for sure better than the Arc S but I was wondering is it really worth upgrading?!
The main reason for me to upgrade is to avoid the lags / freezes I'm getting on ICS even after removing bloatwares, adding build.prop values and running init.d scripts (unless there is something else I'm missing).
So what do you think guys is it worth the upgrade?! Are there any stupid lags or are the Dual-core CPU and 1GB RAM doing their job?!
Also is Sony WhiteMagic technology really helping users to see under strong light? I can barely see my Arc S screen when I'm not under a roof !!
What about GPU?! I read a while back that Adreno 205 (which is included in the Arc S) is better than Mali-400MP unless that fact is changed
Thanks in advance
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Actually, GS 3 is not as same the GPU as XPERIA P, because GS3 used Mali 400 MP4, U8500 used Mali 400 MP1...
Mali 400 MP1 is far weaker than Mali 400 MP4, and also weaker than Adreno 205...
jasonjay180 said:
Actually, GS 3 is not as same the GPU as XPERIA P, because GS3 used Mali 400 MP4, U8500 used Mali 400 MP1...
Mali 400 MP1 is far weaker than Mali 400 MP4, and also weaker than Adreno 205...
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ok, I'm lost now. I recall reading about Mali 400 on both Xperia P and the S III Specification on some website (I can't recall which one), the website shows they are the same. sooo ?!
tadhara said:
About the whitemagic tech, it's really good. Even when the sun shines on the screen I can see it. And not only barely see it like with the iphone 4 or the x10, it is really bright! I would dare to say that it's the brightest screen on the market for now. Else the phone is really smooth, does not lag, only right after boot for me, cuz I added a huge load of widgets. I scroll once through the homescreens and it's gone
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brightest screen is LG with 700 nits .. i saw xperia p and was like : what a single core chipset it uses !? i tested and i suggest u do it too
really laggy with some launcher with effects .. in gingerbread . really disappointing . what a good point of using beautiful phone with ow horse power . seems it has 800 mg CPU . so many ppl confirm this .
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DeepUnknown said:
ok, I'm lost now. I recall reading about Mali 400 on both Xperia P and the S III Specification on some website (I can't recall which one), the website shows they are the same. sooo ?!
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they are not same clocked GPU man ... xperia p has long way to see power of malii 400 .
Xperia p isn't really laggy I own it, didn't just touch it in a shop for 5mins
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The p is powerful! And I dont think the Mali is any lesser than the 205
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Hi all!
have been reading in this (awesome) forum for a while now. so first, thanks for the great work!
at the moment i own a ZTE blade with CM7 and its getting old. so i wanted to buy a new phone. sadly, all the new and great phones are massively big. i dont want to have to bua a manpurse so, the ray is one of the few phones that actually are small and where the community support (xda!) is great
the question is, is it intelligent/reasonable to buy a ray now? or should i wait? the xperia U is almost released and it has a dual core and nicer design (imo) but it also has a weaker battery and the worst part: no SD card slot.
as i want to use the phone as my mediaplayer as well, the 4gb of memory the U offers could be a bit of a pain.
so, my question:
is the ray that awesome that i should buy it now? or is there an alternative that you would recommend? what i expect from a phone:
small
nice screen resolution (>= 800x480)
reasonable battery
custom roms!
hope somebody can help me
IMHO, i would suggest you wait and see once Xperia U has been released and see it perform first.
if you are really sticking with the Sony brand and the listed specifications is what you prefer, the Xperia U is the closest one in comparison.
some downside (comparing it to ray) is the lower resolution camera 5MP, no SD card (4GB is not enough, at least 8GB or more), battery capacity is really low (not sure why?)
if i would choose my next Sony phone, I would go with the Xperia P.
Sony Experia U compared to Sony Ericsson Experia Ray
- better processor (dual core) and GPU (Mali400)
- no SD card slot
- lower quality camera
- smaller battery life
the decisive questions are
- how much better is the NovaThor U8500 CPU compared to Qualcomm Snapdragon SM8255 ?
- is the 8mpix ExmorR camera of Ray so much better than the simple 5mpix camera of U?
but even the NovaThor U8500 CPU is getting old...
so this is a hard decision, Experia Sola has the sd card but it will cost 50 euro more than Ray
here you can see Sola and Ray side by side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gO11MG6ss
future support for sola?
hi,
yes, the question is, how will the sola or U perform compared to the ray, because the ray is awesomely small.
this may be hard to answer, but would you think that it is likely that the Sola or U will get community support and custom roms like the 2011 xperia line?
the sola would be my fallback device. it is still reasonably small and has the sd slot. sadly a bad battery as well.
Derzis said:
Sony Experia U compared to Sony Ericsson Experia Ray
- better processor (dual core) and GPU (Mali400)
- no SD card slot
- lower quality camera
- smaller battery life
the decisive questions are
- how much better is the NovaThor U8500 CPU compared to Qualcomm Snapdragon SM8255 ?
- is the 8mpix ExmorR camera of Ray so much better than the simple 5mpix camera of U?
but even the NovaThor U8500 CPU is getting old...
so this is a hard decision, Experia Sola has the sd card but it will cost 50 euro more than Ray
here you can see Sola and Ray side by side: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9gO11MG6ss
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Camera quality cannot be said like this, it needs to be checked by comparing 2 photos.
Battery life needs to be tested also, as this information on websites are about phone in perfect conditions.
And how do you confirm that Mali400 is better than Adreno 205?
TheOneAndOnlyDude said:
yes, the question is, how will the sola or U perform compared to the ray, because the ray is awesomely small. this may be hard to answer, but would you think that it is likely that the Sola or U will get community support and custom roms like the 2011 xperia line?
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yes, of course and even more than the 2011 experia line
i think the 2012 experia line will be even more successfull with the community then the 2011 line
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And how do you confirm that Mali400 is better than Adreno 205?
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Mali400 is definitely better than Adreno 205, Samsung Galaxy S II uses the Mali400
"ARM's Mali-400 MP4 is the Fastest Smartphone GPU" http://www.anandtech.com/show/4760/arms-mali400-mp4-is-the-fastest-smartphone-gpufor-now
NovaThor uses a less powerfull version of Mali 400 than Samsung Galaxy S II
even Samsung I9070 Galaxy S Advance will use the same NovaThor 8500
but of course Mali400 and Adreno 205 are old now, in autumn new GPU will come Mali 604 vs Adreno 320
even Mali 604 is already old since it was announced in 2010 so in 2013 we get Mali 658
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5077/arms-malit658-gpu-in-2013-up-to-10x-faster-than-mali400
Buy Xperia Sola
Buy phone with 1GB ram, to be prepared for JB 4.1! None of those has 1GB.
mirkuma said:
Buy phone with 1GB ram, to be prepared for JB 4.1! None of those has 1GB.
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Xperia SX seems to be a real Xperia Ray successor: small & powerful. The problem is that international version is not announced yet. At the moment it's only available in Japan. But is probably worth waiting...
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Xperia Ray is the best smartphone, i'm the crispy display and far better battery backup. The phone was announced in 2011 and if you have never purchased it yet then i would like to suggest you Xperia U. Limitation with storage but good phone with looks and powerful configuration.
if i thinking about xperia U, i thinkings :
"is that too bad for a phone w/o sd slot?"
"how about future mod about this phone?" (like how can i backup my phone using CMW. but who knows....XDA devs are awesome)
"how far google can support this phone in the future?" (i believes that google will update this phone to JB)
For mostly users (dont really care about novathor,snapdragon or else), this may like some phone with best performance in its class (regarding from price n specs).
Xperia U's targeted for user whos like using cloudstorage more (the future ways) than natively sdcard.
USB OTG, dont forget that.
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andrasandhi said:
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"how far google can support this phone in the future?" (i believes that google will update this phone to JB)
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needless to say, updating Xperia smartphones is not google's bussiness, ya know?
Xperia Sola Is most convenient one to your option
also remember that XDA users and developers will move to 2012 line
and Ray is 2011 ,by the time this devices will lose attention
or ,I think It's best if you waited for Google 5 Devices
I think those will be great options ,also will have the top XDA support + Google support
Regards
Pixelado said:
needless to say, updating Xperia smartphones is not google's bussiness, ya know?
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Hu uh, i know buddy
Little miss explanations
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I have Xperia U and I can much better phone than 2011 series and also will get ICS with 3.0 kernel,so I would buy it.
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Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
Michielwashier said:
Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
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its not safe to regularly overclock... the best way to monitor as you say is when the processor is in use... it becomes hot and because you OC - it becomes more hot...
use it like this if you want to cause some injury to your phone or someone or yourself
bombayboy said:
its not safe to regularly overclock... the best way to monitor as you say is when the processor is in use... it becomes hot and because you OC - it becomes more hot...
use it like this if you want to cause some injury to your phone or someone or yourself
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I know with overclocking is always a risk involved. But are u saying that 1.6ghz is way out of bound to be pretty safe for daily use? I also know that it's best to monitor when the cpu is fully utilised. But the thing is I don't know how to monitor the exact temps of my cpu and don't know how hot it is allowed to get without taking any damage.
Look, Xperia Arc S has exactly the same CPU like Xperia Neo (V) but is running @ 1,4 Ghz. In other words it's an oc by Sony!!
1,6 Ghz. Test it a while and report back.
I'm running my Neo V @ 1,4 Ghz when gaming and 0,8 Ghz for normal apps to save battery.
Good luck.
ps: on youtube u ll find videos running the neo v @ 1,9 Ghz working properly.
Michielwashier said:
Hi all,
I'm pretty new to this forum and since the time i joined I was addicted to tamper with my phone to tune it up to my likings. Now that im done rooting,unlocking and flashing I got my phone running at 1.6ghz on stock gingerbread 2.3.4 (I tried ICS but i liked GB better).
Now my question is: How safe am I when I leave my cpu speed at 1.6ghz for daily use? It gets a bit warmer than stock when playing games, but I don't know the max safe temp and I don't know how i can check the temps using software. I can only check the battery temp. I assume this can't be related to the cpu temp?
For information: It boots up just below 30°C (86°F) and I have never seen it go over 40°C (104°F) when using heavy apps.
I don't have a clue weather i'm pretty safe or if i'm starting to dig a grave for my neo V. Can someone assist me further?
Thanks on advantage
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Increasing a frequency of a processor based on it's hardware specs sheet by ARM whether it would be done by a user or the device manufacturer is still like digging a grave for you're device. It's just a matter of whether you're digging the grave with a shovel or with a teaspoon.
Overclocking above 25-30% of the stock clock speed will significantly reduce the processor's life...the safest value is 1200-1300mghz...and the fact that Xperia arcS shares exactly the same processor is not true...it is overclocked by OEM...they do this in a different way so as to be on the safer side...you can go up to 1.4ghz...but that too is not safe...and speeds above 1.6 are just for those who treat their device as a use and throw item.
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unisol107 said:
Overclocking above 25-30% of the stock clock speed will significantly reduce the processor's life...the safest value is 1200-1300mghz...and the fact that Xperia arcS shares exactly the same processor is not true...it is overclocked by OEM...they do this in a different way so as to be on the safer side...you can go up to 1.4ghz...but that too is not safe...and speeds above 1.6 are just for those who treat their device as a use and throw item.
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I oppose some of these. There's no other such thing as "it is overclocked by OEM"
1. ARM/Snapdragon doesn't quite give a full open source detail on their architecture to create different ways to mod their hardware.
2. Clocking part is handled by the kernel itself. By overclocking it you just add new and higher values and not actually modify the whole clock routine it does. I don't know the real reason why they clocked Arc S higher than other devices but only reason I could think of is "because it's flagship" I have already looked up the blueprint of our processors and well the default clock is actually 1.4ghz so 1.02ghz is still underclocked for us.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255t&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_msm8255t
Clock Frequencies
Recommended Maximum Clock Frequency: 1500 MHz
Technology
Semiconductor Technology: CMOS
Minimum Feature Size: 45 nm
Contacts: 904 pins
Another edit.
Looks like the Arc S and other 2011 Processors are different :/ noticed the letter T on the end of their names. The one without T is indeed only 1000ghz. And out has 1 version lower on the gps module too.
Riyal said:
I oppose some of these. There's no other such thing as "it is overclocked by OEM"
1. ARM/Snapdragon doesn't quite give a full open source detail on their architecture to create different ways to mod their hardware.
2. Clocking part is handled by the kernel itself. By overclocking it you just add new and higher values and not actually modify the whole clock routine it does. I don't know the real reason why they clocked Arc S higher than other devices but only reason I could think of is "because it's flagship" I have already looked up the blueprint of our processors and well the default clock is actually 1.4ghz so 1.02ghz is still underclocked for us.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a8255t&c=qualcomm_snapdragon_msm8255t
Clock Frequencies
Recommended Maximum Clock Frequency: 1500 MHz
Technology
Semiconductor Technology: CMOS
Minimum Feature Size: 45 nm
Contacts: 904 pins
Another edit.
Looks like the Arc S and other 2011 Processors are different :/ noticed the letter T on the end of their names. The one without T is indeed only 1000ghz. And out has 1 version lower on the gps module too.
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well thanks for that useful info mate...i dont have that much knowledge about cpu architecture...my views are fundamental...and yess...i know about that "t" in arc s cpu spec...thats why said it is different...now wheather it is overclocked by sony or by qualcomm themselves is not clear to me...and also wheather it has the same architecture ...i am just saying overclocking above a certain permissible value is not good.
like you just said...the processor in neoV is just 1000mghz...so it wont do any good if it is pushed beyond the limits.
unisol107 said:
well thanks for that useful info mate...i dont have that much knowledge about cpu architecture...my views are fundamental...and yess...i know about that "t" in arc s cpu spec...thats why said it is different...now wheather it is overclocked by sony or by qualcomm themselves is not clear to me...and also wheather it has the same architecture ...i am just saying overclocking above a certain permissible value is not good.
like you just said...the processor in neoV is just 1000mghz...so it wont do any good if it is pushed beyond the limits.
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Yup and all is clear to me now Arc S and other 2011 devices have different types of CPU arch. Wonder how did this "all 2011 devices have the same CPU" gone wild.
I did some searching on this matter, nobody knows for sure weather the CPU of the arc S is exactly the same architecture but factory overclocked or if it's a different architecture and therby safe to use at 1.4ghz unlike the neo v cpu. I would really like to know an answer to this.
The Xperia Arc S is using the same processor as lower clocked devices, but it's a higher binned part. This means that I can reach higher clock speeds while consuming less power compared to a lower binned processors. The same thing happens with PC processors.
Michielwashier said:
I did some searching on this matter, nobody knows for sure weather the CPU of the arc S is exactly the same architecture but factory overclocked or if it's a different architecture and therby safe to use at 1.4ghz unlike the neo v cpu. I would really like to know an answer to this.
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After some research, I did find the spec sheet sans MSM8255T (arc S) but can confirm that it is not over clocked. What's surprised me is the official CPU for MSM8255 (neo V) has a range of 1-1.4 GHz & camera upto 12 MP. So, it would be safe to OC upto 1.4 GHz
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bombayboy said:
After some research, I did find the spec sheet sans MSM8255T (arc S) but can confirm that it is not over clocked. What's surprised me is the official CPU for MSM8255 (neo V) has a range of 1-1.4 GHz & camera upto 12 MP. So, it would be safe to OC upto 1.4 GHz
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I trust you buddy but plz can you give the source?
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Qualcomm
unisol107 said:
I trust you buddy but plz can you give the source?
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Sure. The official site of Qualcomm. It's on my office desktop. Will share a link later. A pdf.
Edit:
there you go,
http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf
under S2 - MSM8255
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bombayboy said:
Sure. The official site of Qualcomm. It's on my office desktop. Will share a link later. A pdf.
Edit:
there you go,
http://www.qualcomm.com/sites/default/files/common/snapdragon-specs-06.07.12.pdf
under S2 - MSM8255
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This is very interesting information! Thank you
Michielwashier said:
This is very interesting information! Thank you
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You are welcome
Still it would be safe to stay @ our capped frequency. It is all synced with other parts on the board. Use it & then remember to slide it down to 1GHz
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I am planning to buy xperia p.But I heard lot of bad things about it from web.
1]It's gpu i.e.Mali-400 is not quad core as on galaxy s2 or galaxy s3.It is just single core
2]Over half of android 3d games are not working on it properly(crashing problems).
3]It's chipset is not good for gaming
4]It's screen resolution scores less than xperia u resolution and a li'l bit odd to
Does things reallymatter.Please do not answer like a Xperia P slave.
sagardrokr said:
I am planning to buy xperia p.But I heard lot of bad things about it from web.
1]It's gpu i.e.Mali-400 is not quad core as on galaxy s2 or galaxy s3.It is just single core
2]Over half of android 3d games are not working on it properly(crashing problems).
3]It's chipset is not good for gaming
4]It's screen resolution scores less than xperia u resolution and a li'l bit odd to
Does things reallymatter.Please do not answer like a Xperia P slave.
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I have a Xperia P i was user from a Samsung s2 and Xperia P is better in all terms since we have bravia we have Rizal a great modder watch the cyber-shot post there are some pictures taked from my XP camera about game's i run them like a charm i play MC4 without lag c: & i'm on ICS stock with out need of kernel no rom n,n hope you decide soon.
I dont have any problem related to games, just a fw bug on sound and camera but it can be fixed With root, I play lots of games with it and I know if you want 3d gaming HD yku should go for a more expansive phone likehtc one x
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sagardrokr said:
I am planning to buy xperia p.But I heard lot of bad things about it from web.
1]It's gpu i.e.Mali-400 is not quad core as on galaxy s2 or galaxy s3.It is just single core
2]Over half of android 3d games are not working on it properly(crashing problems).
3]It's chipset is not good for gaming
4]It's screen resolution scores less than xperia u resolution and a li'l bit odd to
Does things reallymatter.Please do not answer like a Xperia P slave.
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1. SGSII has the same GPU Mali 400 as Xperia P
2. Don't think that will happen. Xperia P is a Dual core phone with same Cortex-A9 architecture as the SII, you'd b happy with it's gaming performance.
3. Already answered, same as above.
4. Xperia P res is 540x960 pixels... SII has 480x800 and xperia U has 480x854 pixels...
Xperia P has BETTER screen resolution.
On a side note Xperia P has just 11 GB user available memory with NO memory card slot. So it could be a deal breaker for some.
If u can raise ur budget a bit Go for SGSII or Xperia S (24k/25k).
If you're happy with Xperia P internal memory then u can get it for just 17k from eBay.
products.ebay.in/Sony-Xperia-P?productId=595
Hope it helped...
Its not the same as gs2, gs2 has mali400, gs3 has mali400mp quad and xp has mali400mp dual with lower frequency and to be honest gs2 is better than Xp for gaming in quadrant benchmarks and vellamo for 3d, gs2 hits 50fps when xp has like 30-40
Édit: i looked on the net gs2 bench 3200 in quadrant vs 2200 xp, but Xperia p kills gs2 in antutu
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sagardrokr said:
I am planning to buy xperia p.But I heard lot of bad things about it from web.
1]It's gpu i.e.Mali-400 is not quad core as on galaxy s2 or galaxy s3.It is just single core
2]Over half of android 3d games are not working on it properly(crashing problems).
3]It's chipset is not good for gaming
4]It's screen resolution scores less than xperia u resolution and a li'l bit odd to
Does things reallymatter.Please do not answer like a Xperia P slave.
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1. SGSII has the same GPU Mali 400 as Xperia P
2. Don't think that will happen. Xperia P is a Dual core phone with same Cortex-A9 architecture as the SII, you'd b happy with it's gaming performance.
3. Already answered, same as above.
4. Xperia P res is 540x960 pixels... SII has 480x800 and xperia U has 480x854 pixels...
Xperia P has BETTER screen resolution.
On a side note Xperia P has just 11 GB user available memory with NO memory card slot. So it could be a deal breaker for some.
If u can raise ur budget a bit Go for SGSII or Xperia S (24k/25k).
If you're happy with Xperia P internal memory then u can get it for just 17k from eBay.
products.ebay.in/Sony-Xperia-P?productId=595
Hope it helped...
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ilgreco112 said:
Its not the same as gs2, gs2 has mali400, gs3 has mali400mp quad and xp has mali400mp dual with lower frequency and to be honest gs2 is better than Xp for gaming in quadrant benchmarks and vellamo for 3d, gs2 hits 50fps when xp has like 30-40
Édit: i looked on the net gs2 bench 3200 in quadrant vs 2200 xp, but Xperia p kills gs2 in antutu
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Yes, agreed... Not only the SII is better in games but it's just simply plain better. With Exynos chipset and super amoled screen is just great. Camera produces excellent images too. And for all that it will cost u about 3-4k more.
If u can stretch up ur budget go for SII.
If u can't XP is pretty good with gaming too.
Ashish Goyal said:
1. SGSII has the same GPU Mali 400 as Xperia P
2. Don't think that will happen. Xperia P is a Dual core phone with same Cortex-A9 architecture as the SII, you'd b happy with it's gaming performance.
3. Already answered, same as above.
4. Xperia P res is 540x960 pixels... SII has 480x800 and xperia U has 480x854 pixels...
Xperia P has BETTER screen resolution.
On a side note Xperia P has just 11 GB user available memory with NO memory card slot. So it could be a deal breaker for some.
If u can raise ur budget a bit Go for SGSII or Xperia S (24k/25k).
If you're happy with Xperia P internal memory then u can get it for just 17k from eBay.
products.ebay.in/Sony-Xperia-P?productId=595
Hope it helped...
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Yes, agreed... Not only the SII is better in games but it's just simply plain better. With Exynos chipset and super amoled screen is just great. Camera produces excellent images too. And for all that it will cost u about 3-4k more.
If u can stretch up ur budget go for SII.
If u can't XP is pretty good with gaming too.
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LOL no amoled isnt better than LCD.. Fake oversaturated colors, also xp camera is better, as I said, if you want a good phone overall go for xp, if you want a gaming phone go for a one X with tegra
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LOL no amoled isnt better than LCD.. Fake oversaturated colors, also xp camera is better, as I said, if you want a good phone overall go for xp, if you want a gaming phone go for a one X with tegra
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Well some people including me prefer punchy saturated color... And LCD can never match Deep blacks of AMOLED or viewing angles. Moreover, Samsung has given u a choice of saturation. Light, Normal, High.
For me comparing Super LCD with Super AMOLED is like comparing Super Mario with Superman. Lol
I'll take SGSII over XP on any day....
Oh and for camera.... SGSII has a better one....
Check out their samples.... you'll see XP produces grainy images. XP also has Low internal memory... no card slot.
For 22k I willing to pass....
Ashish Goyal said:
Well some people including me prefer punchy saturated color... And LCD can never match Deep blacks of AMOLED or viewing angles. Moreover, Samsung has given u a choice of saturation. Light, Normal, High.
For me comparing Super LCD with Super AMOLED is like comparing Super Mario with Superman. Lol
I'll take SGSII over XP on any day....
Oh and for camera.... SGSII has a better one....
Check out their samples.... you'll see XP produces grainy images. XP also has Low internal memory... no card slot.
For 22k I willing to pass....
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oh comparing super LCD to super AMOLED isnt like this, amoled is a young technology, you should wait at least 2 years before Amoled gets better than LCD, it's like comparing World of Warcraft to the closed Beta of any new MMORPG,
also sony design > samsung.
sony UI > samsung,
Sony Price > Samsung.
I think GS2 is too old to fight against XPeria P,
in xperia P price range P is the king of every android phones, if you can put more money for GS2 then you should give a little more again to get a real better phone, do you understand me? I mean, if on 1 to 10 xP costs 5 and GS2 costs 7, just give 1 or 2 more and get a real high end phone =) ok GS2 is somehow a bit better than XP but it's not worth the money
Xperia neo with 1ghz sd2, 512 ram..
I think we are way back ..
2013 is the last year for our mobile with custom roms we can go year may be less ...
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And the point of your thread/post is? Of course other than pointing to clear facts which everyone is aware.
I just wanna say that mobile technology improving much faster than we are expecting..
That's a good sign...
the majority of users wont spend more than 200euro for a phone so Yes Many new things might be created for Super-smartphones but they will still have to work on ther older ones. Most people i know buy cheap phones rather than Quad-Core phones. Mostly people dont even know what Dual-core or quad core is .
Cocluding i believe we are safe.
2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
deccen90 said:
2013 mobile trend..
5inch 1080p
Quadcore CPU
2gb RAM
13mp camera
This is staring of the year we can expect more.... In mwc Feb 25th
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So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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jasonwsc said:
So? Frankly hardware is not everything. Software optimisation is more important.
I know things improve real fast, but I think it's time we stop following the trend. It is very costly to buy new phones every year.
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Yeah mate I agree !
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A good example is the jb update for the t, now has 800mb of free ram after boot, with ics 400....
Also in benchmark tests( if thats your thing) it is now out performing the HTC one x with its four cores.
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Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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Ghostfreak NB said:
Benchmarks aren't a justifiable source to see your phone's performance!
Like mpiekp already told!
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I don't have money for a Xperia S or Ion, so i have to be happy with Neo L.
1Ghz, 512mb ram is mid-range. Dual core, 512~1024mb ram is high-end, and if you **** money.... premium class, Xperia Z, S3, One X, iPhone 5....
This are ok specs for Neo series. HTC One V, same SoC, Samsung Galaxy Ace is 180 euros....lol, not much choice in mid-range area.
Here's something strange I encountered yesterday :
My brother has HTC explorer ( gb, pure stock untouched, 600 MHz MSM7225A, Adreno 200 ) .... Pretty well below average huh?
Now mine ( Sony lww, ICS, MSM8255, Adreno 205, rooted , unlocked, bloatfree, custom rom& kernel, updated drivers, oc to 1.4 GHz ) ( Everything I could do to increase performance )
Who's the winner ? Mine ?
I played subway surfers on both. On HTC, due to its weak hardware, extreme lags are plausible. But devs are smart. When the game ran, it did not ran at full FPS ( say at 22 FPS rather than 30 ) . This way load reduces on both CPU and GPU so they have to calculate less instructions. This results in fairly good performance ( No extreme lags, touch responds all the time etc )
Now, for LWW, game tried to run at full 30 FPS. This means load on CPU and particularly GPU is maximum. Hence most of the time it ran real smooth but sometimes when 3D models became prominent, it lagged badly and my touch stopped responding. Result , the kid banged his head on a train engine .
Thus, it's not the hardware but software optimizations. One can point that I'm comparing gb and ICS. But still ( 600 MHz + heavy sense ) . That settles the seesaw.
( Not to mention, our devices on gb beat hell out of HTC exp. )
That's what we are not getting from Sony (swo)... compared to other manufacturers ics builds
Useless thread.
Closed.
What's the best gaming phone under $200 that can run Most Wanted ?
(With or Without custom ROM)
If custom ROM is needed, please tell what phone and what ROM.
thanks be4!
Sony xperia ray
Short specs:
8 mp hd cam
1ghz proccesor
Xyz gpu ???
Hd screen
3.3 inch
Front cam
but you need an custom rom: forsakengb or an fast ics rom (iced bean),
An swap script: ctcear swap script
Kernel:ctcear's kernel (hes a genious)
Some build.prop optimasation,
New drivers for gpu and you have a nasa superphone
If you want links to the threads or more info about the phone, pm me
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
Xperia 2011, u got it
xzn said:
Xperia 2011, u got it
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Fast and cheap and good quality
sony xperia ray
ics 4.0.4 rooted
stock rom
What about xperia x10 mini pro? is it any good for gaming?
Xperia Ray is a very good phone but I am afraid the Xperia X10 mini or minipro or the SE live with walkman will definitely preform better in gaming performances considering they have a HVGA display that will demand less power from the processor and the gpu. But yet again, the small screen(3.2'') is a fun killer. So I would recommend a bigger display device for gaming, if you want to have real fun. Go for Xperia U (best budget phone for gaming ) . It's got dual core 1ghz and mali 400 gpu, the price has also significantly reduced.
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raihan4 said:
What about xperia x10 mini pro? is it any good for gaming?
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No, it is too small and a 480p display
sony xperia ray
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Yeah I'm confused between XU or XRay because XU have only 4GB and cannot use external microsd
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Okay I understand your problem bro. You needed a gaming phone So I mentioned the Xperia U. If you are a hardcore music lover then certainly the Xperia U is not for you. But but but, if you are aware of the USB on the go feature, it's very very useful for the Xp U. You can carry as many music and video files as you want and connect on the go. I have seen my friends do that. Comparing the gaming performances , the U is an ultimate winner.
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Xperia J with almost same specs and a 4 inch screen is a killer
I'd recommend Micromax Canvas HD that is A116 it's a phone under your budget with a qualcom quad core processor and five inch screen makes it ideal for gaming
Games like Asphalt Heat run without lag and glitches
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Its below $200?
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sak-venom1997 said:
Xperia J with almost same specs and a 4 inch screen is a killer
I'd recommend Micromax Canvas HD that is A116 it's a phone under your budget with a qualcom quad core processor and five inch screen makes it ideal for gaming
Games like Asphalt Heat run without lag and glitches
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I seriously don't at all recommend the Xperia J. Just take a look at the specs.
OS Android OS, v4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
Chipset Qualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon
CPU 1 GHz Cortex-A5
GPU Adreno 200
What kind of gaming performance do you expect from the Adreno 200 GPU and a 1ghz Cortex A5...and that too with ICS running.
It will be able to run/start most of the games, but nothing will run smoothly.
But on the Canvas HD A116 part, I agree with you. This phone has got some serious power under the hood. Depends on the buyer, if he wants to go for a micromax phone or a branded phone.
satyarlenka said:
I seriously don't at all recommend the Xperia J. Just take a look at the specs.
OSAndroid OS, v4.0.4 (Ice Cream Sandwich), upgradable to v4.1.2 (Jelly Bean)
ChipsetQualcomm MSM7227A Snapdragon
CPU1 GHz Cortex-A5
GPUAdreno 200
What kind of gaming performance do you expect from the Adreno 200 GPU and a 1ghz Cortex A5...and that too with ICS running.
It will be able to run/start most of the games, but nothing will run smoothly.
But on the Canvas HD A116 part, I agree with you. This phone has got some serious power under the hood. Depends on the buyer, if he wants to go for a micromax phone or a branded phone.
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Ics on xperia 2011 works great
sony xperia ray
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stock rom
I also recommend you all xperia 2011.
Have lww and is great. Best will be xperia arc, arc s, ray or neo v. They all are cheap and runs most wanted, shadowgun, gta vice city lagless.
I can confirm that NFS:MW works like a charm on my Xperia Ray. You don't need a custom ROM or kernel, just a lot of free RAM. Before I rooted my phone, my RAM was pretty cluttered with apps like Facebook and Sony bloatware. After root, I managed to get around 150 MB RAM constantly, and MW works perfectly.