After soft bricking my phone and having to restore from a two month old backup I have decided to keep everything backed up and up to date to minimise future headaches.
My intention is to take a full TB of all apps and system data (done) and then work out a way of using the schedule function to keep this up to date with any changes that get made.
I tried it by using 'Backup new user+system apps & newer versions', but when I restored 'missing apps with data' to a dual booted secondary rom, it only gave me the applications in the state they were in when I took the initial full backup.
What is the best way of capturing any data updates? 'Redo backups for modified data' sounds right, but will this include new applications that I have installed since the original TB?
Thanks.
str0ppy said:
After soft bricking my phone and having to restore from a two month old backup I have decided to keep everything backed up and up to date to minimise future headaches.
My intention is to take a full TB of all apps and system data (done) and then work out a way of using the schedule function to keep this up to date with any changes that get made.
I tried it by using 'Backup new user+system apps & newer versions', but when I restored 'missing apps with data' to a dual booted secondary rom, it only gave me the applications in the state they were in when I took the initial full backup.
What is the best way of capturing any data updates? 'Redo backups for modified data' sounds right, but will this include new applications that I have installed since the original TB?
Thanks.
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Edit the schedule to backup all "user apps"
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str0ppy said:
After soft bricking my phone and having to restore from a two month old backup I have decided to keep everything backed up and up to date to minimise future headaches.
My intention is to take a full TB of all apps and system data (done) and then work out a way of using the schedule function to keep this up to date with any changes that get made.
I tried it by using 'Backup new user+system apps & newer versions', but when I restored 'missing apps with data' to a dual booted secondary rom, it only gave me the applications in the state they were in when I took the initial full backup.
What is the best way of capturing any data updates? 'Redo backups for modified data' sounds right, but will this include new applications that I have installed since the original TB? Thanks.
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First the obvious: Did you run the scheduled backup so that it refreshed the data?
Now on to more advanced: What do you have "Max backup history" set to? Did you change the backup folder that's used? If so, what did you choose when it asked if you wanted to move the backups from the old folder to the new one?
Advice: I would't do a full backup on a scheduled basis. I would imagine that it could cause problems if you are actively using an app and the scheduled backup runs. I have my "Max backup history" set to 1 and then overwrite the existing backups. If I feel there's some need to keep an older backup for some reason, I just create a new folder with the date of the backup as the folder name and do the backup manually. Hope this helps somehow.
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Normally when I do a backup using Titanium Backup, I use the batch function and select "Backup all user apps + system data." Then, after I flash my new ROM, I'll do "Restore missing apps + all system data."
My concern is that if I'm making a backup from a ROM that contains bloatware, then flashing to a debloated ROM, wouldn't restoring all missing apps cause that bloatware to be installed again?
What about restoring system data? Would that reinstall anything that I wouldn't want?
Is the best thing to do is go through each item individually and select what you'd want to restore? That seems very time consuming, and I'd hate to overlook anything.
I guess I'm mainly interested in what most people do when they backup and restore apps and system data when flashing from one ROM to another.
Thanks!
When backing up and restoring, you can choose which apps/system data you want to backup. And if you accidentally do backup one, you can just select it and delete the backup.
When doing a restore, you must make sure you are restoring things that will work with the Rom.
Like for example, system data made for a froyo Rom, could mess up a gingerbread Rom and vice versa. Just depends on what you are trying to restore. For system data, the only main thing I restore (that I remember) is the sense launcher settings, which restores how my screen was set up.
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stojakapimp said:
Normally when I do a backup using Titanium Backup, I use the batch function and select "Backup all user apps + system data." Then, after I flash my new ROM, I'll do "Restore missing apps + all system data."
My concern is that if I'm making a backup from a ROM that contains bloatware, then flashing to a debloated ROM, wouldn't restoring all missing apps cause that bloatware to be installed again?
What about restoring system data? Would that reinstall anything that I wouldn't want?
Is the best thing to do is go through each item individually and select what you'd want to restore? That seems very time consuming, and I'd hate to overlook anything.
I guess I'm mainly interested in what most people do when they backup and restore apps and system data when flashing from one ROM to another.
Thanks!
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I have this same question. What is the best practice? It seems there is no need to backup system data... only apps + data, is that correct?
i always back up and restore system data that shows up with green text instead of red. these are consider to have "useful" data. theres around 22 or 23 if i remember right. i would start with these and then de select the ones you dont want. for examples i dont use the stocks app so i dont back up stock data. otherwise back up all user apps and data these dont include any of the stock or bloatware apps that come pre installed so its best to keep them all.
Here is what I do.
Open Titanium and Click "menu" on your phone and then select "batch". You will then see a list of different scenarios, look for "backup all user apps" and select "run" . This will back up all your apps. If you want to do system data too select "backup all apps and system data". I always backup up apps and data. Once you select either of these it will show you a list with everything it is backing up. If you don't want something backed up for whatever reason, just uncheck it in the list.
Now if you flash a custom rom that wipes everything and you want to restore all your apps, open up titanium and click "menu" then "batch" and scroll down to the "restore" section. I always do "restore missing apps with data".
Just remember when you make a selection (click run), nothing happens right away, you always go to a screen that shows you what is being backed up or restored. So don't be afraid to click "run"
I have never used titanium backup and would like to confirm something. If you backup system settings, you can restore the all the shortcuts, apps, folders, etc. on the screens? Also, if using titanium backup, I should probably disable the automatic download by Google of all my installed programs, right, when you first reboot the new ROM? Thanks and sorry if I am asking something obvious. I am thinking of upgrading to das bafm 1.7 from 1.6.3.
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Hi there,
About a month ago I bought an HTC Thunderbolt and somebody helped me root the phone. Since then I have had some family emergency/issues that have caused me to put programming the phone on hold. Now that they have cleared up I am trying to now learn a little bit more about upgrading Rom/Kernel/Radio.
I am running the following:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband version 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21_bamf4.4.2....
Build 1.13.605.7Das Bamf 1.5 Remix
Software 1.13.605.7
Can somebody tell me how to backup my phone entirely?
I would like to back it up with the intent:
* Install different kernel/radio/rom and keep the same android apps without reinstalling
each one individually.
or
* Restore the phone to its current state (if I should drop the phone and get a
replacement).
I do have titanium backup pro installed but it has never been used. Is this all I need?
I seem to recall that there is a backup feature on this phone that was discouraged....
Thanks in advance...
Anthony
The key for me is to
Use Nandroid (the backup feature in recovery) for a full image backup. Use Titanium to backup individual applications.
Before restoring nandroid backups, be sure to wipe cache and Dalvik (under advanced in recovery).
Nandroid takes nearly the entire phone back to the point of backup (houses everything you have on your phone's internal memory). Titanium allows backups to be restored on different roms. Some apps and many system apps don't play nicely with Titanium, but most from the market do play nicely with it.
Installing new kernels doesn't require wiping your data. Installing new/updated roms does. Installing themes usually does not, but there are exceptions.
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Thank you for the explanation.
When you refer to Nandroid & recovery feature, you are referring to Clockworkmod?
Per your input I updated to Rom Manager PRO and then simply selected "Backup Current ROM". I assume that this covers everything on the phone including radio/kernel/apps....
If there is anything else I need to do, please let me know.
Thanks again...
Yes, CWM is how you want to backup your phone entirely. I would recommend going into recovery and making a backup on your own instead of hitting the "backup my current rom" button in rom manager. The backup you make will be saved in a folder on your SD card named clockworkmod/backup. I always think its a good idea to move your backups to your computer and keep your two or three most recent backups on your sdcard.
As for backing up your apps, you can do a batch backup in titanium and when you load a new rom you will be able restore the app and any data associated with it. As a general rule I would only backup apps that require a lot of setup. Otherwise when you load a new ROM the apps you had previously installed will automatically restore (depending on the ROM). Just a tip, dont backup system apps. Doing so and switching versions, for example froyo to gingerbread, could cause many issues down the road even if they aren't immediately seen.
Lastly, when installing a new ROM you always want to wipe data/factory reset at least twice and wipe cache and dalvik cache twice each as well. If you have any issues dont hesitate to ask there are many people who are willing to help.
Go to ROM Manager, scroll down and select Backup Current ROM.
I use two apps for backing up and restoring installed apps; Titanium Pro and MyBackup Pro. For some reason MBP successfully restores the apps + data that fail using TP. For example, apps installed from the Amazon android market.
I create full backups with both TP and MBP, but when I need to restore ( after a complete data wipe and new Rom flash) I do the following:
1) skip setting up my Google account during the initial setup process that starts after user data has been wiped.
2) Uncheck the box that allows backups to Google's servers
3) After setup is finished, go into settings, privacy and deselect the automated backup options
( If I don't do the previous two steps, then Google starts pushing apps that may have been backed up and/ or apps that I have purchased. I don't want this to happen since I am going to do my own restore with data.)
4) I use TP to restore MBP only
5) I then use MBP to restore the rest of my user apps and data.
Some may disagree with my two backup app process, but it has been more successful for me than using either TP or MBP by themselves.
If something doesn't go right with MBP, I still have the full TP backup to pull from.
I do not bother backing up systems apps just because it seems to cause me too many issues when i attempt the restore. This means i have to redo any system settings, but that isn't a big deal to me.
Some of my favorite apps have backup features of their own. Folder Organizer and Circle Launcher are two of my all time favorites. Both restore nicely when i move to a new Rom.
Occasionally, i copy the TP, MBP, and Clockwork folders from my sdcard to a folder on my laptop just in case.
The above may sound like alot, but it goes pretty quick for me and I flash quite a bit ( at least once or twice a week when the device is new and the Rom cookers are really active).
Another thought, I have used MBP to successfully restore my android home screen settings for sense ( part of MBP's data bu ). My preferred launcher is LauncherPro, which has its own backup and restore function.
Finally, i always do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing to a new Rom. I also always do the backup right from clockwork mod recovery. I love the Rom Manager app and paid for the premium version quite a while ago, but i prefer to backup, wipe and flash from the recovery screen. Even if i download something that needs to be flashed using Rom Manager, I still reboot into recovery to perform the needed steps.
Hope this helps and if someone has another app backup/ restore routine they use successfully i would love to know the steps. I am open to learning something new.
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I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
restoring the data for the user apps is fine, don't restore the system data...
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
Wond3r said:
I have read that when going to a different rom to do a full wipe.
So clearly if you want to keep your apps you back them up and recover them with titanium backup, but why is it advised to not restore the Data of the apps?
How else would I keep game scores and settings and such?
Thanks
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It is advised to do full wipe, if you install a rom.
And if you want to keep your settings, games scores etc, you use Titanium Backup.
Titanium Backup is your friend in those cases..
What is not adviced, is installing a Rom, without wiping your data.. In that way, you keep for example data of apps and games, of a froyo rom, to a gingerbread rom..
Rom to Rom differs(even in same android version), thats why you full wipe, and then TiBu saves you by restoring them, to the new rom's enviroment..
Edit: Agree with others.. I was typing on atrix, and since i wrote this, they already answered!
Also in atrix, NEVER restore FINGERPRINTS backup..
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Pirateghost said:
that would be a bit of misinformation that gets spread around.....
its fine to restore user apps+data. i have been doing it for a long time with every device i have. swapping between devices and all.
do a batch restore MISSING apps+data
unselect anything that might be blur/sense/touchwiz specific (based on the phone you are using)
run the batch and reboot
verify you are not having any FCs on your apps
if you do a batch restore of just user apps+data (and not the MISSING option) you will get tons of issues.
it is not advised to use Titanium Backup for things like text messages, contacts, phone logs, etc. (while possible it will work just fine, i have seen lots more issues trying to restore those from rom to rom rather than just user apps.)
again. use the MISSING APPS option in the batch restore of Titanium Backup
i have been doing it for over a year on many different devices and i even share my titanium backup folder between different phones, with NO issues at all. and i typically flash several times a week on several different devices.
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That explains it. Ive seen MANY posts where users tell other users to restore apps but not restore data but dont specify they mean system data and not app data!
Also, when people talk of a full wipe, do they mean even deleting the contents of the internal storage (like photos and such?)
This would be for going from one ROM to another ROM, both GB
No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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No they are talking about doing a "wipe data/factory reset" in CMW and not physically deleting your internal sdcard. if you delete your sdcard then you will wipe out data that you need including your titanium backups
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Thanks ! I always feared that the wipe data/factory reset pretty much deletes all the files on your device like photos and music
The short answer is force closes. Which also can happen from restoring app data, altho it is less likely to happen, it can and it will. But yea def dont restore system data.
Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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Is there any other way of saving game saves?
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You can use SyncIt or GameOn, you can even back it up manualy with Root Explorer. You should be fine with TiBU, just if you do get a force close you will know why and what to do (delete data and/or uninstall/reinstall).
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
JonnyCazoid said:
I am having an issue restoring my app data from titanium backup. The issue first occurred when i switched from a stock ROM to CM7 ICS ROM. When i restored my missing apps+data all of my app data had disappeared. I just started over and didn't worry about it. Then when i switched from CM7 back to a stock rom I received my old apps+data from before i switched to CM7. I read around on the forums that this might be a compatibility issue. So i started to use the setting in the batch menu "Manipulate data and converted my backups to roll back journal mode which says this works with all roms, and started uploading to Dropbox. I recently just switched my Rom from a stock ROM to CM9 ICS. I lost all of my apps again!! and got back all of the app data from when i was using CM7. Could someone please shed some light on what is going on here cause i have no idea. Please let me know if there is anything i can do to get my app data into CM9 from my last stock rom. The stock rom i was using was an old ROM called wet dream.
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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The stock rom uses a different back up location than cm roms. You will have to manually go find the data backups in tibu. Don't bother having it auto detect, wont work. For example, all my backups were at mnt/emmc/titaniumbackup instead of the stock roms location of mnt/sdcard/titaniumbackup
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Looks like that was the the problem. I saved my backup on drop box so i just dropped what was on dropbox in my titanium folder and restored it. I now have all of my app data back.
hey guys i have a quick question about titanium backup, i did a couple of backups on titanium, is there a way i can restore only the latest backup because when i go to restore it shows me all my apps from my previes backups...
you can restore them 1 by 1, not sure if there is a option to restore only the latest as any backup you do will overwrite the one you did before (if it is them same app), whereas there is for instance an option to only restore apps with data changes if I remember well.
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you can restore them 1 by 1, not sure if there is a option to restore only the latest as any backup you do will overwrite the one you did before (if it is them same app), whereas there is for instance an option to only restore apps with data changes if I remember well.
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I think if we backup using the pro version, the backup file will be only 1 LATEST BACKUP per app
you can set titanium to keep as many backups as you want, if you only want to restore certain ones, then until the ones you don't want to r restore.....it's not exactly rocket science
I have a problem with restoring some apps' .TiKB files. I have them saved to my BOX account and when in try to import them, some eier work or some just shows operation canceled. Why is this happening?
I used to back up every week until i got a message about running out of space, you only actually need 1 backup in Titanium and maybe keep a spare backup in Dropbox or Box or on your laptop in case, i delete a backup every week after updating apps, restart the phone and then backup so it's a fresh backup.
thats not the hting though. my problem is that i made backups for apps/games for the easy import method(from BOX using the .TiBkp files) and so for some apps/games it lets me restore and some say operation canceled. why does it not let me restore. any idea why?
So basically I needed an an APK for an older version of an app and it had already been overwritten. I allow 3 copies of backups with TiBu but my scheduled "redo backups for modified data" overwrites them quite often. I end up with 3 backups of the same app but they're all for the same version. The old version gets deleted because my scheduled "redo backups with modified data" detects new data and then does a new backup.
I wish it would only update the data and not the APK? What's the point of constantly updating the APK for an app when the version is still the same.
Yes, I want it to constantly update the data so I have the latest backup all the time, but it would be nice if it could do that and always save the last 2-3 APK versions as well...
Am I totally missing something here is it just the way it works for now? Thanks for any help!
Seriously, no one responded to this?
Could this setting be the answer?
Settings => Batch Move:
Min age (days) for refresh.