I assume the advantage of using the full wipe zip is how fast it works. What else is recommended to wipe before flashing a new rom. What I have been doing is flashing the wipe zip, then formatting system, cache, and data, then wiping dalvik cache. Is all that necessary? Should I also be doing a full wipe/ factory reset? Thanks in advance.
Airwolf79 said:
I assume the advantage of using the full wipe zip is how fast it works. What else is recommended to wipe before flashing a new rom. What I have been doing is flashing the wipe zip, then formatting system, cache, and data, then wiping dalvik cache. Is all that necessary? Should I also be doing a full wipe/ factory reset? Thanks in advance.
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I believe the zip you are referring to is Bills fullwipe zip. It wipes everything needed to flash a rom except dalvik cache. So, flash the zip, wipe dalvik, flash your rom.
Acvice said:
I believe the zip you are referring to is Bills fullwipe zip. It wipes everything needed to flash a rom except dalvik cache. So, flash the zip, wipe dalvik, flash your rom.
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Yes, sorry, its Th3Bill's zip, but I got it on Joker's site. So its normal for it to wipe superfast, like in a few seconds? What about formatting system, data, and cache, is that not needed either?
Airwolf79 said:
Yes, sorry, its Th3Bill's zip, but I got it on Joker's site. So its normal for it to wipe superfast, like in a few seconds? What about formatting system, data, and cache, is that not needed either?
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Nope, that's the three it wipes. And yes a few seconds is normal. Only thing you might wanna wipe is dalvik.
But, I mean there is the full wipe/factory reset, and then under mounts u can manually format each one. What is the difference between formatting and wiping?
Airwolf79 said:
But, I mean there is the full wipe/factory reset, and then under mounts u can manually format each one. What is the difference between formatting and wiping?
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For our usage, not much difference.. But technically, wiping referrs to 'deleting' everything there. Deleting makes something disappear, but doesn't make it nonexistent. It just tells the system that this space can be used for other things now. Until the the given sectors where the data resided are used to write something else, the deleted items technically still exist. Formatting, on the other hand, goes through every sector and writes over it with 'blank' data, securely making the data unrecoverable (for the most part).
How can you relate this to your phone? Well, if you are installing a new rom, wiping the data is sufficient. If you are getting rid of your phone for whatever reason, formatting is suggested.
Ok, thank u for the clear explanation.
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Im sorry if this is such a nooby question but on some custom roms it recommends to wipe /system. What does this do? And what do you lose? When I usually go to another rom I wipe user data, cache, dalvik cache and battery stats. I never had any problems by doing so. In my case I never saw where to wipe /system I found out it was under mounts and storage in recovery a few days ago.
svenerator said:
Im sorry if this is such a nooby question but on some custom roms it recommends to wipe /system. What does this do? And what do you lose? When I usually go to another rom I wipe user data, cache, dalvik cache and battery stats. I never had any problems by doing so. In my case I never saw where to wipe /system I found out it was under mounts and storage in recovery a few days ago.
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reset to factory status ands deletes all contacts, custom apps and any other personal information on the phone.
It will be like the day you got it.
Cosmic Blue said:
reset to factory status ands deletes all contacts, custom apps and any other personal information on the phone.
It will be like the day you got it.
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This is wrong....
The /system partiton is where Android itself gets stored. As in the system apps and framework. It is recommened to wipe it when changing to a *non-wipe* firmware just in case some files are different and get left over from the previous rom.
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Electroz said:
This is wrong....
The /system partiton is where Android itself gets stored. As in the system apps and framework. It is recommened to wipe it when changing to a *non-wipe* firmware just in case some files are different and get left over from the previous rom.
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Thanks, that makes sense.
not wiping before installing a new rom usually results to bootloops.
i see to it i wipe before installing another rom (unless i'm installing a newer version of the existing rom)
in advanced wipe in twrp what does wiping system but keeping data,cache,and internal storage do ? will i keep my apps and data?
help me a noob said:
in advanced wipe in twrp what does wiping system but keeping data,cache,and internal storage do ? will i keep my apps and data?
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As was posted earlier in the thread, wiping system basically wipes the rom/os and system settings. Your user data, apps, pictures will not be wiped. If you rebooted after wiping system the phone will not work, however you could wipe system then flash an update of the same rom and reboot and you should be fine(depending on the changes between rom versions). This is basically referred to as dirty flashing. FYI, most custom roms have a script which wipes system, cache and dalvik/art cache automatically preserving only /data(user apps and data)
I see people saying that wiping data, cache, and dalvik is considered a full wipe. But isn't that incorrect? Wouldn't formatting the system, data, and cache be considered a full wipe? If using TWRP, under advanced settings or options is a an option for formatting. When choosing to format system, data, and cache partitions, isn't that what people want to do when doing a "full wipe"?
Formatting system will clear dalvik so I'm just confused when people say to wipe fully, and by that they say to wipe data, cache, and dalvik. That's nothing, but a factory reset because all that does is erase your data, and leave the system intact with whatever you installed into the system such as kernels or tweaks.
So my question is, what do you guys and gals consider to be a full wipe?
I use the advanced> format menu to wipe each invidual partition, including /system. I myself have always wondered this as well seeing as to most people, a full wipe is considered a factory reset which includes data, cache, and dalvik cache. I wipe each individual partition including system and thus never have weird problems that others complain about.
I've wondered that same thing, cause some say wipe everything and then some say format ur system first. So which is? Which way is the Proper way?
The proper way is formating
System
Data
Cache
Formatting system clears dalvik. I'm just confused because people keep telling others to do incorrect things when they say full wipe. I just want to know what the users think when they use the term.
DDiaz007 said:
The proper way is formating
System
Data
Cache
Formatting system clears dalvik. I'm just confused because people keep telling others to do incorrect things when they say full wipe. I just want to know what the users think when they use the term.
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Well I use the super wipe zip, I think that's what it's called, to wipe my phone then I was just formatting my system. I wasn't really sure what people wanted. Like I said one says wipe and one will say format, but thanks for telling me the proper way.
mugetsu666 said:
Well I use the super wipe zip, I think that's what it's called, to wipe my phone then I was just formatting my system. I wasn't really sure what people wanted. Like I said one says wipe and one will say format, but thanks for telling me the proper way.
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A zip? You'll be fine if it does what it is supposed to do. But if you do it manually, this is the correct way.
DDiaz007 said:
A zip? You'll be fine if it does what it is supposed to do. But if you do it manually, this is the correct way.
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I just looked and it's the infected wipe is what I've been using but I guess I'll start doing it the proper way then.
I have always considered wiping data, cache, and dalvik as a full wipe. And formatting every thing as, well, formatting lol. I have never formatted any of my partitions when installing new roms, can't say I have ever had an issue either.
But you certainly bring up an interesting point.
For those that are confused: "formatting a partition = "wiping" a partition.
format boot (contains kernel,ramdisk,etc.)
format system (contains base OS,apps and framework,etc.)
format data (user apps,accounts,batt stats,dalvik,etc.)
format cache (lots of stuff, lol)
/full wipe
side note: every ROM zip I've ever seen formats system and boot, so usually if you're flashing a ROM (and feel like wiping) it's totally fine to just wipe data and cache and then flash. If you're flashing over (no data wipe) then you'd want to wipe cache and dalvik, same for a kernel, that gets rid of cached stuff you probably don't want on boot. Especially dalvik since it contains a classes.dex for all your apps, which could contain old data you don't want in your new ROM. These dex files are built during the bootup, so it's safe to wipe them out, that's also the reason a bootup takes a lot longer after a dalvik wipe where you haven't wiped data.
hope this helps
When you don't get poopoo stains on your undies.
Sry troll moment lol had to do it sry diaz.
I always thought full wipe was data dalvick, cache, battery stats, system/ SD partition
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thizzlemania91 said:
When you don't get poopoo stains on your undies.
Sry troll moment lol had to do it sry diaz.
I always thought full wipe was data dalvick, cache, battery stats, system/ SD partition
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dalvik is IN /data.
batt stats are IN /data.
who wipes sdcard for full wipe?
il Duce said:
dalvik is IN /data.
batt stats are IN /data.
who wipes sdcard for full wipe?
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No **** lol
Get all those nasty tt backup apps you guys save lol
il Duce said:
format boot (contains kernel,ramdisk,etc.)
format system (contains base OS,apps and framework,etc.)
format data (user apps,accounts,batt stats,dalvik,etc.)
format cache (lots of stuff, lol)
/full wipe
side note: every ROM zip I've ever seen formats system and boot, so usually if you're flashing a ROM (and feel like wiping) it's totally fine to just wipe data and cache and then flash. If you're flashing over (no data wipe) then you'd want to wipe cache and dalvik, same for a kernel, that gets rid of cached stuff you probably don't want on boot. Especially dalvik since it contains a classes.dex for all your apps, which could contain old data you don't want in your new ROM. These dex files are built during the bootup, so it's safe to wipe them out, that's also the reason a bootup takes a lot longer after a dalvik wipe where you haven't wiped data.
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Ahh I see now, much appreciated!
DDiaz007 said:
Ahh I see now, much appreciated!
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anytime. hey what happened to nuggy? does nobody like cyan sense?
il Duce said:
anytime. hey what happened to nuggy? does nobody like cyan sense?
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I don't know, he went dark on me. I assume life. I like it, but who knows? :-(
I finally joined Google Plus so I can play tester for you guys if you still need it. I tried joining before when I had asked you, but it rejected my alias.
I've had a ZTE Blade for a year and whenever I flashed a new rom, i'd boot into clockwork and wipe dalvik, battery stats in the advanced tab.
then i'd go to mounts and storage and wipe /system, /data, /cache and /boot followed by data/factory reset and cache in the main menu to make sure the system was completely minty fresh before i flashed.
just looking at clockworkmod for the S2 and i was wondering if there's a similarly recommended set of wipes ?
as far as i can see, it appears to be Wipe Data and Factory Reset, Wipe Cache and install - is that really it or would it help to do the /system, /data and /cache in the mounts and storage menu as well ?
thanks in advance
Wipe /system, /data /cache and dalvik cache. That should be enough (what I've been doing since april )
Force Close said:
Wipe /system, /data /cache and dalvik cache. That should be enough (what I've been doing since april )
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Thanks. I've just flashed the resurrection remix rom and only wiped dalvik, data/factory and cache and everything seems to have installed fine and is running ok so far - probably because i came from the stock ICS rom i suppose.
i'll remember that in the future though, thanks
hankhandsome said:
Thanks. I've just flashed the resurrection remix rom and only wiped dalvik, data/factory and cache and everything seems to have installed fine and is running ok so far - probably because i came from the stock ICS rom i suppose.
i'll remember that in the future though, thanks
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In advanced there is fix permissions too. You can use it if it gets buggy.
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Formatting system is a good habit
hankhandsome said:
Thanks. I've just flashed the resurrection remix rom and only wiped dalvik, data/factory and cache and everything seems to have installed fine and is running ok so far - probably because i came from the stock ICS rom i suppose.
i'll remember that in the future though, thanks
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atifsh said:
Formatting system is a good habit
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Hi, this is my 1st post but have been flashing almost daily for around 4 months. Ok so here's my uber anal method
Wipe data/reset. (x3)
Wipe cache
Wipe dalvik cache/battery stats
Format cache/system/data
Flash rom
(if dual booting flash kernel cleaning script then flash compatible kernel)
Reboot/set phone up Google accounts etc/Reboot. Then wait at least 5 mins for rom to settle. Enjoy!
This imo is a full wipe which I use regardless of whatever rom I'm flashing. I know some installs you can get away without full wipes but for peace of mind I use this method. It can be a pain setting up a fresh install but with using TB & launcher restores it can be done in less than 20 minutes. Good luck
Front to Back or Back to Front & Toilet Paper or Wet Wipes? Just Kidding!
When wiping via Factory Reset in TWRP what is the best way to insure everything is getting fully wiped except our external SD card. After I did a factory reset there was still everything on the internal sd card. Do any of you use the superwipe.zip?
What Procedures do you follow when switching Roms?
DGreen1 said:
Front to Back or Back to Front & Toilet Paper or Wet Wipes? Just Kidding!
When wiping via Factory Reset in TWRP what is the best way to insure everything is getting fully wiped except our external SD card. After I did a factory reset there was still everything on the internal sd card. Do any of you use the superwipe.zip?
What Procedures do you follow when switching Roms?
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i wipe data factory reset.. then wipe cash..then dalvik cash..then flash rom.. been doing that for a year wit no problems
I dont know for sure as I to am new to this device. But Id think it would be the same as any other device
I do know for google wallet you need to clear before flashing or it borks on this device,,,
for wiping from recovery I believe it goes something like this:
Wipe data factory reset
wipe data
wipe cache
wipe dalvic cache
wipe system
wipe boot
wipe sd-ext (if there is one???)
flash your rom and reboot
Please anyone correct me if im wrong,,,Thaks and hope it helps ya,,,Later,,,:cool;
drlzanej said:
I dont know for sure as I to am new to this device. But Id think it would be the same as any other device
I do know for google wallet you need to clear before flashing or it borks on this device,,,
for wiping from recovery I believe it goes something like this:
Wipe data factory reset
wipe data
wipe cache
wipe dalvic cache
wipe system
wipe boot
wipe sd-ext (if there is one???)
flash your rom and reboot
Please anyone correct me if im wrong,,,Thaks and hope it helps ya,,,Later,,,:cool;
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Factory reset wipes /data and /cache
after Factory reset, wipe System and you should be good to go on a new or fresh installation from zip. i dont think wiping boot is necessary but you can. so do
Factory Reset
System
Boot
Dalvik-cache is in /data so you dont have to wipe that.
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Factory Reset
System
Boot
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This is the best, and also the quickest way.
Thanks for the help... I just don't understand why I have the following on my phone.
Sdcard - I understand that this is internal.
Sdcard2
Sd-ext.
Both the sdcard2 and Sd-ext have the same files on them, it has my music, some apk files, and my flash zip files. Now my poweramp player shows duplicate albums for all of my music stored on my external sd.
Any ideas
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DGreen1 said:
Thanks for the help... I just don't understand why I have the following on my phone.
Sdcard - I understand that this is internal.
Sdcard2
Sd-ext.
Both the sdcard2 and Sd-ext have the same files on them, it has my music, some apk files, and my flash zip files. Now my poweramp player shows duplicate albums for all of my music stored on my external sd.
Any ideas
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Sd-ext is or was the best way to move apps to the sd card. But with the new OS it isn't required if the app is made right
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I factory reset twice, wipe dalvik twice and wipe system twice. I don't wipe cache since the factory reset does it.
Now that it was clarified dalvik is wiped with the factory reset I'll probably stop doing that. I just wish it clarified it since it specifically indicates the cache was wiped.
I use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1700211
I have TWRP 2.2.1 installed, unlocked bootloader and rooted, I want to install a new ROM but I want to do a full wipe as per the installation instruction.
In the Wipe Menu I see 6 different options. Which ones do I wipe for it to be a full wipe?
Cache (I can probably wipe this)
Dalvik cache (I can probably wipe this)
Facory Reset
System
Exernal Storage (I probably don't need to wipe this)
Internal Storage
Thanks,
Richard
A full wipe is factory reset.
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skennelly said:
A full wipe is factory reset.
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Not true, A factory reset wipes data, and cache. A true full wipe is System, data, and cache. When doing this I usually click on factory reset twice and then system twice
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A full wipe is factory reset.
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And I'd throw "System" in there for good measure.
Thanks guys. Worked like a charm.
There is a mod you can flash that does the same thing called superwipe
Sorry to bump this, but factory reset WILL NOT erase media on phone, right?
No, it will not. ONLY a SD card erase will wipe the media.
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Just gonna add that I erase both caches any time I'm in recovery . why not take the opportunity while u can.
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I use swm6180_superwipe between flashes. Not sure that it's necessarily any better than using the wipe option in TWRP, but here's a link. https://db.tt/lAVSMRwY
I wish I could remember what thread it was from so I could link you to it directly, but it you find it make sure you thank swm6180.
sorry to resurrect this yet again but dose swm6180_superwipe still work? i used to use one on my galaxy s2x but that one no longer works i have been told.
full wipe!" i must to select all ? :dalvik , data, internal storage, cache, usb otg )? and " system " no correct?