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I have narrowed my choices to these two tablets and i am about to pull the trigger ...so is anyone familar with the acer model and are you fully satified with your Stablet....Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!!
I didnt like the acer, it was laggy and thought the sony hsd more functionality. I made no regrets buying the sony.
sigvader said:
I have narrowed my choices to these two tablets and i am about to pull the trigger ...so is anyone familar with the acer model and are you fully satified with your Stablet....Any feedback will be greatly appreciated!!
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Sony all the way. If you have a local Sony store ask them to give you the employee price They are usually pretty cool about it and can save you some $$$
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I fell in love with the Sony the moment I played with it. I will approach this more from the Sony side as I did not focus on the ACER to much.
Pros and Cons-
Pro's-
1- The form is amazing. I just love it.
2- Great capacity. 16GB on the Sony versus 8GB on the ACER. If you plan on loading up your tablet this is important.
Cons -
1- Weird charger. The charger is unique to Sony and there is no car charger.
2- Very few accessories. Being a bit unique, there are only a few specific accessories and generic accessories don't always fit.
cnet just reviewed the acer tab. based on that i would go sony all the way. pretty happy with mine and the universal remote is pretty damn awesome.ics is coming in the spring. downside is i am having issues right now with streaming Bluetooth audio while on WiFi and i am trying to do that because the built in speakers are weak. otherwise very solid, great screen, good camera's (2 vers1 on the acer) and wireless ps3 controller support built right in
my 2 cents
Sony for sure, I have no confidence in Acer quality after my bad experience with my Acer desktop
Another vote for the Sony here. I absolutely love mine.
They are quite different of course; The Sony is a more premium tablet with the form factor and the smooth responsiveness to match it. The Iconia relies on its lower price, since its relatively heavy, its screen has nothing like the flexibility of the Sony's TruBlack (or whatever its called). On the other hand, the Acer has the full-size USB port and more conventional form factor that many like.
Overall, I would recommend the Sony to absolutely anyone considering it. The only drawback I've found so far (though I know many others have found some buggy bits that should be cleaned up in time for ICS) is that there is no hardware display out. Of course, the Acer also does without the ubiquitous mini-HDMI so thats obviously not an issue.
Go with Sony
I would definitely go with Sony, I had an acer A500 which wasnt a bad device but its pretty large in comparison to the sony. The Sony is definitely more portable lighter and had an ergonomic design. The only thing sony lacks is HDMI output but that wasn't an issue for me. If there aren't any DLNA Devices available the amazing screen resolution suffices. Great for presenting my work to clients without lugging a laptop around.
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thanks for the input.. I went with a s tablet...and I like it so far....i posted on this forum to get feedback from you that have this tablet...so I knew in advance it would be a little one sided
dtaylorr said:
I fell in love with the Sony the moment I played with it. I will approach this more from the Sony side as I did not focus on the ACER to much.
Pros and Cons-
Pro's-
1- The form is amazing. I just love it.
2- Great capacity. 16GB on the Sony versus 8GB on the ACER. If you plan on loading up your tablet this is important.
Cons -
1- Weird charger. The charger is unique to Sony and there is no car charger.
2- Very few accessories. Being a bit unique, there are only a few specific accessories and generic accessories don't always fit.
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Sorry to say but dude, there are options for a 3-pin chargers i.e. the one for laptops which can be easily used for the tab even.
And dude you are forgetting the most useful "IR REMOTE control function" that NO one else can provide
Tell me now!
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Sorry to say but dude, there are options for a 3-pin chargers i.e. the one for laptops which can be easily used for the tab even.
And dude you are forgetting the most useful "IR REMOTE control function that NO one else can provide
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If you know of a way to use the USB port, please tell us, share a link to them.
The impression is, (without opening up my tablet), that the USB port does not connect to the power. I would love to be wrong!!
As to the IR remote, it is a nice feature, but I personally don't need it. All of my home theater devices are Samsung and the remotes work with each other.
Acer v/s Sony :: Obviously SONY hahahaha......
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If you know of a way to use the USB port, please tell us, share a link to them.
The impression is, (without opening up my tablet), that the USB port does not connect to the power. I would love to be wrong!!
As to the IR remote, it is a nice feature, but I personally don't need it. All of my home theater devices are Samsung and the remotes work with each other.
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No, it is not possible to use USB as a charger, but I am talking about the general 3-pins only.
It is technically not possible to use the USB as a charger for the tablet.
For more you can refer the following post " http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1497511 "
To confirm what coolfire's saying, USB charging would require some very specific hardware designs and even then it would be tricky. The Sony doesn't include this capability, mostly since it uses a 10v battery, double the USB standard 5v.
On that note, I would check very carefully if you're looking at other tablets which claim to charge from USB as many tablets wont and many will emulate the behaviour first shown by the iPad. Those devices won't charge from USB but won't discharge either, effectively running the device on the 5v provided by the USB connector.
Acer
Go wid sony Tab S...
Sony will alwyz hav an advantage ovr othr tabs or gamming consoles .. becuz its gt playstation store... n is playstation certified...
Moreover.. Sonys Camera alwyz gives the best pics n videos comapred to ny othr tab cam .... Its gt an Ir remote Control too ... n TruBlack Display... its jus bettr thn ny othr tab out ther .. YET ..
Dont frgt to press the thnk you Button>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> righ here
Tryed both
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Another vote for the Sony here. I absolutely love mine.
They are quite different of course; The Sony is a more premium tablet with the form factor and the smooth responsiveness to match it. The Iconia relies on its lower price, since its relatively heavy, its screen has nothing like the flexibility of the Sony's TruBlack (or whatever its called). On the other hand, the Acer has the full-size USB port and more conventional form factor that many like.
Overall, I would recommend the Sony to absolutely anyone considering it. The only drawback I've found so far (though I know many others have found some buggy bits that should be cleaned up in time for ICS) is that there is no hardware display out. Of course, the Acer also does without the ubiquitous mini-HDMI so thats obviously not an issue.
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I just returned a a200 cause I bricked it, but figured I'd upgrade and get this Sony.had it two weeks, well having used both I can tell you I prefer the acer. it feels better looks better is not as laggy has a better OS, also has full size USB, acer also gets ICS and the ps3 controller works without a 30.00 cable from Sony. only thing better about the Sony is the awesome universal Remote. did I mention the acer is 50.00 cheaper? this tablet S will be going back so I can get another a200.
Hey I'm looking to buy the xperia s! I'm currently using the xperia play but its starting to lag out on me. Few questions tho.
1) Should I get the xperia s? Or pay around 65$ more for tje xperia sl? Is it worth for the slight speed boost?
2) Every review I've read says the android navigation buttons suck. They aren't that bad are they?
3) Coming from a smaller phone, I'm worried the xperia s might be too big in the hand. I've always hated big phones like the s3 and note, etc. 4.3 is perfect for a display size but I've heard the xperia s is extremely big considering the screen size. Should i be worried?
4) Any other useful info or comments about your experience with your xperia s!
Thank you!
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Hey I was once in the same boat as you, previously owned a Play it died though... Since I bought my S I've never looked back.
1) Just get the S all you get with the Sl is a slight overclock, that's it. Not worth an extra 65$
2) No, they're very responsive for me. I think It's an aquired skill, practice makes perfect
3) I thought this too but the device fits very comfortably in my hand and the screen is amazing
4) It depends whether you plan on sticking with stock or using custom software really
Hope I helped :good:
1) SL has aluminium body, that would be my only reason to choose the SL over the S. I don't miss those 200mhz, really. But 65$ doesn't seem too much for an unlocked phone, unless if it's from say 135 to 200 (on a contract)
2) They tend to be kinda unresponsive, but I found a way to not miss, I slide my finger upwards from the transparent bar going to the screen area, pressing the button on my way up without missing. It's kinda lame when you think about it, but you get used to it, it comes naturally when navigating using the soft keys.
3) The device is actually too big for the screen size, too much bezel, specially up and down. But it doesn't feel unconfortable or anything. It's just a good size phone.
4) My only gripe is that the battery life feels too random. Some days I feel it endures a hard day of heavy usage, some other days it just dies on nothing.
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Hey I'm looking to buy the xperia s! I'm currently using the xperia play but its starting to lag out on me. Few questions tho.
1) Should I get the xperia s? Or pay around 65$ more for tje xperia sl? Is it worth for the slight speed boost?
2) Every review I've read says the android navigation buttons suck. They aren't that bad are they?
3) Coming from a smaller phone, I'm worried the xperia s might be too big in the hand. I've always hated big phones like the s3 and note, etc. 4.3 is perfect for a display size but I've heard the xperia s is extremely big considering the screen size. Should i be worried?
4) Any other useful info or comments about your experience with your xperia s!
Thank you!
Sent from my R800i
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Yes, I bought it.. Nyc phone.. Go get one
Use the thank button, it's there for a reason
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Hey I'm looking to buy the xperia s! I'm currently using the xperia play but its starting to lag out on me. Few questions tho.
1) Should I get the xperia s? Or pay around 65$ more for tje xperia sl? Is it worth for the slight speed boost?
2) Every review I've read says the android navigation buttons suck. They aren't that bad are they?
3) Coming from a smaller phone, I'm worried the xperia s might be too big in the hand. I've always hated big phones like the s3 and note, etc. 4.3 is perfect for a display size but I've heard the xperia s is extremely big considering the screen size. Should i be worried?
4) Any other useful info or comments about your experience with your xperia s!
Thank you!
Sent from my R800i
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1) Only if you are ready to pay 65$ extra for one of the new colors. Hardware wise it's just overclocked.
2) I don't have any problem with the keys. But I noticed when I hand my phone to other people they often need to press twice because they press really far off. (sometimes they try to press the transparent bar )
3) I had the same thought but I came from an ray (!) got used to the size within two days, now I don't want to miss it.
4) I love the s. It's fast, smooth and the display is amazing. The design is an absolute eyecatcher.
Battery isn't the strongest but it lasts the same as my ray did, and at least a full working day with a lot and lot of usage.
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So I am looking to replace my Ipad. I have been looking at the new Toshiba excite pro with the Tegra 4 CPU.
But I have come back to this Sony Tablet a few times. How do you guys like it? Does it feel snappy? Good quality?
Any negatives? Since it is water resistent, does it make it harder to use the headphone jack, charger jack, etc?
Has it been out long enough that it is considered old technology now? Should I wait?
Mine is not the international version, but the Japanese SO-03E model. Its innards are definitely a little outdated because of the Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 instead of the Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T, but it'll hold its own against almost all current generation devices (in fact it's the fastest standalone tablet I can think of until the Tegra 4 devices hit, since I don't know of any Snapdragon 600 tablets).
It's fast and smooth, but there are occasional hiccups on Sony's launcher and Socialife is noticeably blippy. These are both problems that can be easily circumvented with third party apps. I haven't yet to find quality concerns with my Japanese model, but out here on xda there have been various complaints that include bad waterproofing flaps. It definitely makes you not want to use the flaps often, since although they seem quality enough they don't entirely seem strictly durable.
It's not really old tech yet, but if you want the absolutely fastest chipsets, you have to look elsewhere. The tablet's sheer thinness comes at the expense of battery capacity and while I find the XPERIA Tablet Z has impressive battery efficiency, it has only middling run time due to the low capacity of the battery (6,000mAh) - about 6 or 7h or heavy use on middling brightness.
Hi,
It is my first tablet so my opinion is not biased by other devices. I find XTZ pretty awesome but not perfect.
First of all - the design is amazing. Slim, light and simply beautiful. But unfortunately I find it quite fragile because of that. Sometimes when holding by the edge it triggers touch screen starting stuff like settings or switching screens. It doesn't happen often but still...
Screen is awesome, bright natural colors. It is state of art and maybe not the highest resolution on the market but really more than enough. Only minus is that it is fingerprint magnet. I had few phones before and nothing attract fingerprints more than XTZ or XZ.
Bravia Engine is doing a great job and I just love to watch movies on XTZ especially that is so light that you can do it on the plane or in the bus and don't have to worry that your hand will hurt from holding it.
Overaly it is smooth device but lags sometimes during web browsing(on 30Mbits connection) which is a bit odd.
Using flaps is not problematic but can be sometimes difficult(if you are using Krusell case for it or your hands are big as loaf of bread)
If it comes to technology I've got simple answer for you. Whatever you buy it is already old If you understand that, you will not be dissapointed that your tablet is not the fastest and there is one that scores more on some benchmark
If it comes to battery life I find it very good(based on the small capacity) It last 8 hours on screen time if you browse some web and watch some movies. Probably could last longer if you just play movies as it is using more batt when surfing.
As a conclusion I want to say that I love it regardless of clicking sound of the back cover or constant need of cleaning screen form fingerprints and a few other things that could be better.
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I found the North American version (32GB Wifi) to be a complete disappointment especially quality-wise:
- the backing was not stuck on properly — probably a defect, but not an unexpected one when double-sided tape is used
- the screen visibly flexed and activated the touch sensor when I pressed on the back
- erratically sensitive screen — perhaps due to tacky feel of anti-shatter film
- diagonal lines on the screen
- shadow along the bottom edge
- the Sony Android build broke Firefox Sync
I suspect the slim design of the tablet made it more prone to those defects. Needless to say, I returned it after a week.
I actually have my eye on the Toshiba Excite Write and it will definitely be the next one I try — the Xperia was for me the 5th in a run of defective tablets from various manufacturers. The decidedly unsexy design of the Excite probably means it's less defect-prone, the OS is as close as you'll get to stock Jelly Bean without a Nexus and Toshiba has promised Key Lime Pie, and finally that Wacom digitizer means it'll be great for handwritten note-taking which is exactly what I need it for. The insane rez screen, Gorilla 2 glass and the Tegra 4 are just icing on the cake for the same price as the Xperia.
the overly sensitive touch screen is due to a software issue, which was corrected in the most recent update, as for all the defects it just sounds like you got the lemon of the bunch ive had mine a couple months and not experienced any of the issues you've described. i love my XTZ i have the SGP311 16GB Wifi only version, its light, slim, super fast (coming from a cube u30gt lol) and im happy with it.
sorry to hear you had such a bad experience though
Yes, mine also has none of the aforementioned problems or defects.
Love it, works really fine.
Only thing is that one has to customize it a bit before it runs optimally (replace pre-installed laggy apps with 3rd party ones, rooting and disabling certain resource hogs etc.).
This of course is not how it should be; the out-of-the-box experience should be flawless on a high end device.
Pros: the looks, waterproofing, awesome gaming with playstation certified, stamina mode, high res screen, IR sensor(unique to this tablet), 4.2.2 update is due for the tablet in a few weeks.
cons: timescape UI is laggy and Since it is slim, you can feel the heat from the processor...
vjawsm said:
Pros: the looks, waterproofing, awesome gaming with playstation certified, stamina mode, high res screen, IR sensor(unique to this tablet), 4.2.2 update is due for the tablet in a few weeks.
cons: timescape UI is laggy and Since it is slim, you can feel the heat from the processor...
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What is the timescape UI?
acdcking12345 said:
What is the timescape UI?
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Timescape was the official name for Sony's skin (just like how HTC calls their Android version Sense or Samsung names theirs TouchWhiz), but it seems they've dropped that name. The XPERIA launcher is occasionally laggy but systems apps such as Settings, Messaging, etc. all run flawlessly.
My unit has fairly flawless build quality as far as I'm concerned - buttons are slightly mushy, but that's not uncommon. Rigidity is impressive, but slight flex is possible with significant pressure (something you shouldn't be applying to any device in the first place). But what gets me is just how nice the materials feel, especially the grippy plastic back.
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Timescape was the official name for Sony's skin (just like how HTC calls their Android version Sense or Samsung names theirs TouchWhiz), but it seems they've dropped that name. The XPERIA launcher is occasionally laggy but systems apps such as Settings, Messaging, etc. all run flawlessly.
My unit has fairly flawless build quality as far as I'm concerned - buttons are slightly mushy, but that's not uncommon. Rigidity is impressive, but slight flex is possible with significant pressure (something you shouldn't be applying to any device in the first place). But what gets me is just how nice the materials feel, especially the grippy plastic back.
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I went ahead and ordered one. Will have it tomorrow. I hope it is easy to root, etc. As well as to flashing new ROMS on it. I shall see, I guess
acdcking12345 said:
I went ahead and ordered one. Will have it tomorrow. I hope it is easy to root, etc. As well as to flashing new ROMS on it. I shall see, I guess
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If you ordered the Japanese SO-03E, there is a simple just-run-this tool available for it. If not, there are rooting methods discusse here at xda for older versions of international XPERIA Z tablets' firmware.
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If you ordered the Japanese SO-03E, there is a simple just-run-this tool available for it. If not, there are rooting methods discusse here at xda for older versions of international XPERIA Z tablets' firmware.
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Didn't know there was an international option. I just ordered it from a US company, so I figure it isn't.
Ill have to see what firmware it is running when I get it today.
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So I am looking to replace my Ipad. I have been looking at the new Toshiba excite pro with the Tegra 4 CPU.
But I have come back to this Sony Tablet a few times. How do you guys like it? Does it feel snappy? Good quality?
Any negatives? Since it is water resistent, does it make it harder to use the headphone jack, charger jack, etc?
Has it been out long enough that it is considered old technology now? Should I wait?
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I have mine for 2 months now and apart from battery taking really too long to fully recharge (6 hours) I can't complain about this tablet. Everything works as it should. I totally recommend it!
I'm well aware of the Z2 specs, have read reviews, etc. But I want to hear from you guys, real world users. How are you liking your Z2? Is it awesome? Is it frustrating?
Opinions from real users that I'd love to hear about:
-Battery life
-Lag
-Sound quality (talking/mic/ringer, etc.)
-Is overheating really an issue?(I heard it was with 4k recording, which I probably won't do much of)
-Quirks, things that bug/annoy you about it. General problems that may be common in this phone.
Is this a phone that you "have to" root in order to make it more "usable", or is it pretty good out of the box?
What I like about the the Z2:
+current prices (can be had for around $400)
+good camera (on paper at least, please correct me if I'm wrong)
+screen size and resolution
+expandable memory
What i mainly don't like:
-sony seems to be slow on releasing updates
-no user replaceable battery(I know, where there's a will, there's a way, but still, it's nice to have that sometimes).
I'm trying to decide between this or a LG G pro 2.... both have expandable memory(a must for me) via microsdhc, a 1080p 5"+ screen(very preferable for me), with a decent camera(at least on paper), the real selling point is that the Z2 is cheaper with a slightly faster processor, otherwise, specs are relative similar to me as far as I'm concerned... I just want to know "real world" opinions... because everything may be great on paper, but the device could be a frustrating experience when beheld and used everyday.
Thanks!
Z2 -
The device was certainly worth the money i spent on it
1. Great battery
2. Barely any lags under normal use
3. Amazing camera quality (near SLR/DSLR in macro shots)
4. Very useful to have micro sdcard slot
Updates are fast as can be (xperia Z2 took forever to get 4.4.4 but all other xperias got it very quickly)
Xperia Z2 on 4.4.4 is certainly worth it. Its literely a Cheaper Z3 with slightly lesser quality.
It still has the potential (with root) to out perform the Z3
I wouldn't be able to tell you how much I like this device, specially after the last update.
Battery life is great, even without using Stamina mode which is very usefull.
UI is beautifull and really smooth. I really like the display.
I haven't had a problem with Z2 so far.
I think this device is pretty awesome out of the box.
Hi,
After 4 years of only HTC, I have decided to get the Z2.
I have it from one month (bought it new)
Pros:
- The phone, looks awesome, my opinion the speakers are more beautiful from Z3
- Camera is amazing
- Battery Life amazing, got and 4 days of normal use, (speaking at least 1 hour per day)
- it is the fastest phone I have used, very fast in the UI
- more
Cons:
- Very frustrating, very, very, very! bad sound, all my friend told me that they hear me very noisy, very bad, echoes..etc - using headset, amazing audio quality.
- after update to 4.4.4 every time I put my phone at ear to speak I find that quick setting drop down and activating/deactivating features form quick setting, even airplane mode and close the call
- very hard to upgrade to.. it took me about one day, tried many times.. to get the upgrade to 4.4.4, very much errors...
- very slippery, slipped from my pocket, fall down and get scratched.. very easy to scratch
If I have to chose again I would still get HTC, The One M8. I would be chose the bad camera, low battery life, but have a good call quality, most important feature of a phone.
Once again, it's my opinion and maybe I got "lucky" and I have got a bad one..
Best regards, and chose widely
Came from a rooted galaxy s3 about a month ago; which I still think is one of the best phones out there....but.....
The Z2 is very impressive, the battery life is extremely impressive and with normal (light) use I can get over 2 days out of it. The camera is amazing as is the 4k recording; but it does shutdown due to overheating at 4k after about 15 mins.
I have not experienced any lag whatsoever with the phone and it's as smooth as butter.
Some of the Sony apps get annoying with there constant toast messages but you can disable them.
One of the reasons I used to root phone was to use Titanium to back up all my apps and data; but the sony has it's own app for that; so I did root the phone originally; but have gone back to stock (mainly to get the last update)
It is a fingerprint magnet so cover and screen guard a must.
I have heard stories about the magnetic charging port coming off the phone, but I don't use it.
I have no issues with call quality at all even over hangouts, viber or Skype video. Think the echo experienced by other uses is phone specific as my wifes Sony M has echo but my sons doesn't.
For me the audio is so low and terrible, it seems to be a software problem and not a hardware problem but sony wont fix it, in call volume i can never hear
I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
I have had multiple android phones latest was the note 3 which i swapped for the Z2
Spec wise the z2 is amazing
Cosmetically phone looks very very nice slick smooth overall looks the part. However it is the most slippery phone in the world if you try to sit this phone on your legs while sitting down for example forget about it its off in milliseconds
functionality wise not so much
While it does play anything you throw at it with ease games apps media etc.
Battery life is second to none best battery life and on screen time of any phone ive ever had
However the poor poor poor audio notification system is a big big downfall
Unless you physically have this phone in your hand you wont know its ringing or if you received a notification (unless you root and add mods which then don't fix the notification problem) Sony are not only aware of this problem they refuse to fix it or acknowledge that there is even an problem to fix and have even added the same problem onto the Z3
The waterproofing its sceptical as the so called protective flaps on the charger port at least randomly open so therefore leaves the phone vulnerable to water damage
The screen while looks stunning when watching HD clips or playing games in certain light you can clearly see all the Digitizer touch sensors (tiny dots) on the screen more so in good light watching something dark on your phone to me this is a major annoyance
Boasts a 20.7mp camera only while using manual controls (Not something the average user can or will ever do) In auto mode which almost everyone will use its limited to 8mp (Again unless you root and use a mod)
The features of the camera are absolutely brilliant timeshift,4K,AR effects etc. and many many more
Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.(this obviously if you plan to root and unlock phone but lets face it your on xda so clearly thats the plan)
The development for this device is not so great (Respect to all the devs actively working on the device) not a great selection of roms mods etc. as you would see on other flagship devices
For me i would say no this is the first and the last Sony phone i will purchase
Given the choice i would trade back for my galaxy note 3 in a heartbeat
No doubt people will disagree but this is just my honest experience with the phone to date
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
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Sony say there all for open source support and enable you to unlock your bootloader via there website if you wish to.
However doing so will delete your TA folder DRM keys (something that is not mentioned in the unlocking process) thus disabling many of the phones features in the process (Not so much support as punishment) such as ps4 remote play noise cancelling etc.
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Certain pre-loaded content on your device may also be inaccessible due to the removal of DRM security keys. For high-end devices running recent software versions, for instance Xperia Z3, the removal of DRM security keys may affect advanced camera functionality. For example, noise reduction algorithms might be removed, and performance when taking photos in low-light conditions might be affected. The secure user data partition may also become inaccessible, and you will not be able to get any more official software upgrades if you unlock the boot loader.
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Then the FAQ
If I change my mind later on, is there any way to restore my device?
No. Once you have unlocked the boot loader, you will not be able to revert the device back to a locked or original state or restore the DRM security*keys. You can however use the*Flash tool for Xperia™ devices*to flash a generic Sony ROM, although it will not receive automatic software upgrades.
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If the screen size doesn't matter for you, I would choose the lg. I've already had g2 and they have the multi window feature like in Samsung (of course after installing a proper rom). About xperia z2 itself, yes, I would buy it one more time, however htc one m8 had much better os. The battery life here is just awesome, I think only droid turbo could beat sony. I didn't use stock rom, but flashing dixperia made it finally almost lagfree device. The small apps are completely unusable for me. Camera, hmm the amount of megapixels is able to make the photos really good, however when I've compared 8mpx picture from z2 and 4mpx from one m8, the htc definitely wins it in matter of quality. The screen is good and readable in the sun and it doesn't catch so many fingerprints on the screen, however it's a bit more reflective than on htc, so you may find it annoying when watching a movie and seeing a reflection of a chandelier on the screen. Although it has 3gb of ram, the sony os kills more often the background apps than htc. There's one important thing about these devices. I've had two xperia z1 and now z2, and each of them has some hardware mulfunction, so be prepared that may be forced to use the warranty. In z2 I have a problem with mini jack as it sometimes doesn't detect headphones in it.
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
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Then the FAQ
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This is why the z2 will be the only Sony phone I ever own, we should not be penalised or lose features for doing what we want with our own devices! I'm really hoping Ara takes off in a big way as that is the kind of freedom that we need and should make the likes of Sony realise the mistakes they are making
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o0 Matt 0o said:
Root fixes everything, except the lcd dots.
But this comment is interesting
Sony website
Then the FAQ
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Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
On the other note it is possible to backup you TA folder prior to unlocking your bootloader (with root access)
So you WILL be able to restore to stock at a later date and relock your bootloader
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Did you really go searching the Sony website just to post that lol
Like how they say doing so MAY RESULT IN INACCESSIBLE pre loaded features
Instead of the truth YOU WILL 100% NOT HAVE THESE FEATURES AT ALL
So while they still give you a slight misguided warning it doesn't help
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No I didn't go searching, I remember reading it when I unlocked my bootloader. You must of missed it.
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I was torn between this and the LG G3, it was the phenomenal battery life of this that finally swung it.
Cons : OK, it's too big. For me the hot spot is about 4.7" I think it's a little big to comfortably fit in my pocket.
Pros : where to start, it's truly a brilliant device in almost all ways, battery life is brilliant (7 hours sot is achievable), camera fantastic.
Certainly given the choice I'd buy either the Z2 or maybe Z2 mini at the drop of a hat.
yep definitely awesome phone
Yeah my previous phones were all HTC, and I think I will stick with Sony for a while.
For me the best thing of the xperia z2 is that you can get one of the most awesomes phones for only $400, last time I spent $650 on my HTC One and I don't think it was worth it as it devaluated really quickly. The other great pros of the Z2 is the 3200mah battery and the fact that is waterproof is the feature that makes it different from all the other phones
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I splurged 800 on an unlocked Z2 about 8 months ago. I have to say I love the phone.
Great camera(HTC owners get envious sometimes)
Good battery life(loaded with apps I get about 28 hours regularly with moderate use. Once went 52 hours on a single charge without using stamina mode)
Microsd card slot is great to expand memory
Overall the phone is a real power house. Loads games quickly and keeps multiple apps running in the background with ease. Only thing I regret was not doing enough research during rooting process and ended up losing DRM keys in the process. Otherwise I would spend another 800 on a Z2 or Z3.
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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Thanks for the input, do you find that the sound quality is lacking like some other users implied? Like the speaker and the microphone?
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I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
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I haven't had issues with the speaker or the microphone. If anything I do wish that the phone would be a little louder when taking calls. I have the volume maxed out but I wouldn't mind it being just a tad louder. Then again it might just me because I think all phones should be a little louder. But otherwise everything seems nice and clear.
One issue I recently found was that my proximity sensor does not play well with long hair. I have been growing my hair out and because it is starting to go over my ears the phone can't detect my ear being close to the handset so my check presses random settings and stuff.
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Gotcha, I guess I can get used to the volume not being as loud... afterall, I've been using a Nokia E72 for quite a while and the ear speaker or speaker phone volume is below par when compared to most smartphones I've listened to.
THat sounds a bit frustrating that the proximity sensor will trigger and random settings will change while using your phone on your ears.
I also wanted to thank all input, from everyone, really helped me out a lot.
I'm straying away from the G pro 2 now, the price is holding high for that device and the community here seems to be more active.
One more question, do you guys know if the Xperia Z2 has a stylus note taking app from Sony? I believe I saw a video of the Z ultra having an app from Sony that would let you take free style notes with a stylus, looked handy, I was wondering if that app could be had on the Z2 as well.
Yeah but I only notice the issue when I have my hair between the phone and my ear. Never happened while my hair was cut short.
As far as taking notes I am not sure if the sony app can be ported to the z2 but I do know evernote can do handwritten notes. You would just need to get a stylus that works for the z2.
anything that sony got wrong, from build quality to processor overheating. i am interested in buying my first sony smartphone, so would like to see if its a wise investment.
like with any other product today, it really depends what you are after. In absolute terms, there's no device that should score more than 6/10 if you really go nip ticking around every single detail.
With that said, I really hate holes in the screen, so reason #1, then I really like SD card, not because I need 3TB of storage but because I keep all the stuff that I need on SD and if phone breaks it is an easy solution. So that's #2.
The main complaint seem to be overheating, but that happens with recording/taking pictures. Not sure, never happened to me because I don't care about cameras on phone. Every one in the last 5 years is decent enough for casual photo and every single one sucks in comparison to a proper camera for half the price.
Now, build quality seems great, but it's been just 2 months. XZ2 I had for 4 years and that was a tank so if this one is that good than no complaints.
Also. I could list 20 features that ppl will argue about and I find them completely irrelevant. I paid for the undamaged screen and SD card slot first, the rest I could get for 1/3 of the price of mark IV. Screen I could get on some gaming phone or under display camera one but those don't have SD. And many chinese phones still have USB 2 so.......
I agree with nearly everything @kinggo2 wrote, I don't really dislike holes in the screen. But I must say Sony has done well to get rid of those massive bezels of the past. The phone did heat up a bit when I started using it. It
seems to have learnt my usage case and doesn't heat up as much. I love the fact that it does have a sdcard slot and a headphone jack. I also just store stuff on a card and move the card when I get a new phone. The only thing I miss is an FM radio which I still listen to. I can get around this by streaming. My Z5 Premium and Z2 are still good and work. That said, the price is high. I justified it by saying it was a good deal because I got a free set of WH-1000XM4 cans with the phone. Phones are a depreciating asset, but if you don't like the price, see whether the 5 IV suits you. And yes, I would recommend it.
I'd recommend buying it over the exynos S22+....laggy, overrated phone...the Xperia is smooth as silk in comparison
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
invasion13 said:
Now, No, see these threads :
Xperia overheating problem
Hello. I am following user experiences with this phone and lately i have saw that many people have started to complain about its overheating thing. I have almost bought this phone recently but after i saw that this is maybe not i software issue...
forum.xda-developers.com
How long can you film with VideoPro before autostop[Yellow Triangle Overheat]?
Hi, I have been fighting with my carrier who provided me my Xperia I.V in a pack (Altice) , because of the disfunctional Photo/video parts , since june : after a few manipulations on the settings for video or photo , the yellow triangle already...
forum.xda-developers.com
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so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
Fytdyh said:
so what is the culprit ? the processor ?
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Processor known to heat , case design, and software optimization i guess
So.. I agree with @kinggo2 .. My 2 cents :
All the reviews that weigh battery life / charging speed high are irrelevant to me. As long as no phone can do a week, I am perfectly happy with phones that last a full day on average - which the sony does. I also charge the phone at night - so I dont really care about charging speed. By the way, I had an Asus ROG 5 and while the charging speed was spectacular, the battery capacity degraded rapidly and after 6 months, I could barely use it for 1/2 a day. Many studies show that frequently charging your phone at high wattages reduces battery life.
No other phone has 12GB RAM, 512GB Storage, 4K display, expandable storage, dual sim, close to stock android skin, good camera hardware, 3.5mm jack, front display without camera cutouts - and all that packaged in a sleek 185mg, IP68, matte glass back body that is so much easier to grasp - and I really hate curved displays, which thankfully sony has decided not to do.
If you don't like the default camera app, you can download Gcam for free, and get really awesome single click night photos (low light photos are probably the only area that I concede that the default camera app's basic mode is really bad - everything else is not really that perceptible IMHO)
On principle, I don't buy Apple or Samsung phones. I feel they unfairly enter into deals with the carriers (atleast in the US) to ensure that they remain the dominant manufacturers. It is unfair to the consumers that in the US, it is very hard to get a Xiaomi, POCO, ASUS, Motorola phone and even if you do, connectivity is very poor and 5G will probably not work. Even Sony had to delay US launch probably because they had to put in a different modem. I don't like being bullied by Apple and its fanbase into being forced to use iMessage, AirDrop and Facetime. Lock-in strategies are bad for consumers in general and is a major road-block to innovation.