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when updating from gingerblur 1.2 to 1.3 i went into the tenfar's recovery app and clicked Install Recovery again, even though I had already done this before install gingerblur, I want to try out the new grey blur and was thinking bout using recover to go back to my first after root install, but now that I have clicked it I don't want to end up just going back to 1.2
so basically two questions, can I recover back to my first pre gingerblur 1.2 version of atrix, or can I only go back to gingerblur 1.2 at this point since I overrided it?
and yes I know about sbf flashing I just am lazy and would like to know if I have the option to recover from multiple states
Install recovery actually initiates the recovery process....... it doesn't complete till the phone rebotes and you work through the flashing menu..... so pressing it multiple times wouldn't do anything I guess??
as for going back i don;t think that is an option anymore hence the flashing method said " are you sure" and also "This process can not be undone"..... not unless you flash a new sbf, which is can brick if not done properly.
i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
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i believe we are confused, you are supposed to click install recovery before loading any kind of rom like gingerblur or greyblur, my question was can i recover from multiple states, or only the very last one, becuase if that is the case I have to reflash stock sbf in order to do a clean install of greyblur since the last time i clicked the install recovery button was after gingerblur 1.2 was installed, while the first one was pre any kind of romming
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Ahh yes, sorry, you can flash any rom over the top of gingerblur as long as it is the complete version, not an update( from say v1.xx to v2.xx), it has to be the complete v2.xx zip file.
Yes it is good practice to press install recovery every time you want to flash, just to make sure the process files haven't been altered, so that you don't end
up soft-bricking your phone...
I'm not sure you can recover multiple initial states, or even the last state given the flashing cannot be undone.... (though I've never tried....)
And as for reverting back to stock motoblur you will need to use the sbf flash, this is because no one has made a rom of the core files to restore the motoblur ui...
Sorry does this answer???
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
banes said:
well not exactly lol you see I saw a post in greyblur where people were complaining about having to reflash sbf back to 1.2.6 in order to start over fresh n clean from a gingerblur install, and someoen suggested that if you have been using tenfars recovery rom that you could actually use that to recover from an original state when you first loaded cwm and before you loaded a rom, that way you can save a lot of time and trouble in going through and reflashing 1.2.6, rooting, and then updating rom.
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Yes you can do this. But if you didn't create backups via CWM before flashing any of the ROMS then I think you are SOL. Here's what you should have done:
flash 1.2.6 -> before update root -> update to 1.5.7 -> after update root -> install CWM -> create backup via CWM recovery menu -> flash gingerblur 1.x -> create backup via CWM recvovery menu -> flash gingerblur 2.x -> create backup via CWM recovery... etc etc.
unless you want to do a fresh 1.2.6 SBF flash every time you update to the newest ROM/Theme version. But the point I'm making is backup via CWM after every major flash/change/whatever.
CWM will save the backup on your SDcard in a folder named after the date of the backup. /sdcard-ext/clockworkmod/backup/<date of backup>
Okay, so I see there are many people that have the same questions I had yesterday trying to apply this update with a custom ROM already on my phone. Here is what you'll need and how to get your phone updated. This isn't the only way to do it, but it's what I did and it was pretty easy. It was harder finding out how to do all of this, and in what order than actually doing the process.
It will take a little while to do this, roughly 30-45 minutes.
Here are the steps I had to use being on 1.5.7 with GingerBlur:
Here is what you'll need after backing up your apps/files to the SD Card, in this order:
Download RSD Lite 5.0
Download 1.8.3 sbf
Gingerbreak
GladEnable
Tenwar's System Recovery
GreyBlur 2.X (Or insert custom ROM here)
1: Flash the 1.8.3 update on to your phone using RSD Lite, this will reset your phone completely to stock.
2: Run GingerBreak to root the device.
3: At this point I was unable to install Tenwar's, so I used GladEnable to sideload it.
4: Installed Tenwar's and loaded up my custom ROM.
5: Restore your backup.
This should get you all updated and with your custom ROM installed.
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
Thanks a lot for this....
spitefulcheerio said:
Awesome! Thanks man
quick question: how do we make a backup (Ti Backup?) on our current setups? And will restoring the backup we make bring back all apps and settings and everything?
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Yes, use Titanium Backup to backup your User Apps and Data, not the system apps or data. And make sure to backup to your SD Card as the flash with wipe your internal memory and your backup will be lost. I had that issue and had to reinstall all of my apps. It's minor, but still a pain in the ass.
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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When I flashed 1.8.3 through RSD Lite, it completely put everything back to bone stock. It wiped the entire internal memory. So I'm not sure if it should or shouldn't, but it did. I know it wasn't GingerBreak because you flash the update before installing GB.
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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that's weird, b/c when I flashed it, it didn't wipe anything just added the bloat ware back and changed the radio, etc. still had homescreen the same with all my apps, etc.... oh well
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Maybe because I was on 1.5.7, and flashed 1.8.3 instead of going back and OTAing the phone. That would make sense because the OTA process probably does a backup/restore during the process. As mentioned in the OP, it's only one way to do it, but there are other options.
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
Datblkbro said:
the sbf download is sending me to Motorola site,, dont I need the sbf not the exe??
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I've updated the link in the OP so you can download the correct file. My apologies.
Regarding 1.8.3 sbf, which of the sfb files from the link you provided is it? They vary in size. Thanks.
You want the one with the most hits and the ridiculously long filename.
It actually has 1.8.3 buried in the name of the file. It's a few from the top.
THANK YOU this has been a big question mark for me ever since 1.83 came out. Fantastic guide.
Swiftks said:
Flashing 1.83 should not wipe anything; as far as apps or info. goes. Some people have had a problem with gingerbreak wiping some things though. I flashed 1.83 and ran ginerbreak with no problems, except for having the bloatware re-installed and loosing my root, but that's to be expected.
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Did the GingerBlur 3.1 get fixed when it comes to the Webtop mod? Cuz I read something about it having a problem with actually working on this Rom? Maybe that was on the 3.0, so I figure 3.1 fixed it?
PLease just a simple "yes it works" or "No, it doesn't" will suffice
Thanks
Just wanted to post my initial experience with using RSDlite to update afterting and gingerblurring it.
I followed your how to as much as I could (You should provide a link to RSDlite instructions, I had to search for it because I didn't know how to do it exactly... not a big deal but it would make it easier/idiot proof)
When I first updated via RSDlite, something must hve went wrong. At first, A triangle and lil android was haunting me on my screen... so I went to reboot.. **** [I thought I bricked it]... Then I restarted it again... DOUBLE ****... Couldn't load into recovery... I restarted a third time and it loaded up(**** YES). But for some odd reason, it said I still had to update (even though it said the firmware was @ 1.8.3.)
Everything seemed to work fine, and was able too root and ginger blur it. About a few hours later, wifi seemed wonky (kept randomly disconnecting and the update dialog came up every 15 minutes).
I ended up reflashing to 1.2.8 and OTA's all the way up to 1.8.3 and then re-rooted and blurred it. No problems since the full refresh
Hopefully everybody elses experience goes better than mine!
Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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Also, Random question. How do you remove Tenwars System Recovery app after using it to load up a rom?
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You can use Uninstaller for Root (I found it on the Market), and you can uninstall from there if you wish. Personally I see no real reason to remove it, but you can if you need to with the above referenced Uninstaller. There are a few others that can do it, but UfR is free, which is clearly a win.
564mb for the sfb??? Thats freaking huge
GreyBlur on 1.8.3
After following the steps I still show
"System Version 4.1.57MB860.ATT.us"
rooted and sideloading enabled by gladroot then flashed greyblur 2.1....little help for the n00b?
So I am trying to install the Stock Deodexed ROM and i've wiped and all but when I got to install the zip, it aborts. It says failure at line 7. I have backups of Stock 2.3.4 i can restore to, so I can get to my goal of being at 2.3.5 for the Eclipse update tonight, but I'd rather a clean install. Why is the install aborting?
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So I am trying to install the Stock Deodexed ROM and i've wiped and all but when I got to install the zip, it aborts. It says failure at line 7. I have backups of Stock 2.3.4 i can restore to, so I can get to my goal of being at 2.3.5 for the Eclipse update tonight, but I'd rather a clean install. Why is the install aborting?
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This has happen to me before. I had to sbf and then it was fine for a while. But recently I had the same iussue again but I had already made a back up of eclipse 1.3 so I am also hoping eclipse 2.0 goes ok for me as well.
Finishing up a restore of my stock, then to update. The only reason I am is because i installed the mash up rom and my signal was amazing for a day, and then today, it has picked up miniscule 3g, dropped it, and remained on low 1x.
Flashing the deodexed rom is unnecessary, all you have to do is sbf to 2.3.4, root, use rootkeeper (if you want), update, and flash eclipse when released.
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I've noticed that both the built-in android recovery and Clockwork Recovery allow a user to flash just about any zip they want. Is there a functional difference between the two?
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I've noticed that both the built-in android recovery and Clockwork Recovery allow a user to flash just about any zip they want. Is there a functional difference between the two?
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First off, the clockwork recovery doesn't work for x2. You have to use bsr recovery. As for applying updates, the stock recovery will do official motorola ota updates (like the 2.3.5 update), but it won't install custom ROMs. BSR will do ROMs and one time I did apply an OTA update with it, but your mileage may vary.
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Stock recovery u can ONLY flash Motorola signed zips
Our cwr will do any thing the stock will. I always use the install zip>choose zip rather than the apply update... You don't have to rename it to update... And do not be alarmed when it just shuts down. It looses root perms and system closes it or so I assume. Be sure to use voodoo root keeper . It gets bad rap here but just use my rerecovery and if eclipse bombs delete suback up and eclipse latest will work with rk. Enough?
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Our cwr will do any thing the stock will. I always use the install zip>choose zip rather than the apply update... You don't have to rename it to update... And do not be alarmed when it just shuts down. It looses root perms and system closes it or so I assume. Be sure to use voodoo root keeper . It gets bad rap here but just use my rerecovery and if eclipse bombs delete suback up and eclipse latest will work with rk. Enough?
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Im sorry but this process is way more complicated than just flashing 2.3.5 , root zergrush, install BSR, install eclipse
Ash... I have never gotten ZR to work. I have issues w/ my old laptop. Others too have ZR troubles. You do not need a pc with voodoo rk. It IS different but not more complicated if ZR don't work.b
I still use Petes.
skwoodwiva said:
Ash... I have never gotten ZR to work. I have issues w/ my old laptop. Others too have ZR troubles. You do not need a pc with voodoo rk. It IS different but not more complicated if ZR don't work.b
I still use Petes.
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True
I don't even have a working computer but I refuse to use rootkeeper unless I absolutely have to.
Last time I used root keeper I had a paperweight in my pocket for 36 hrs until I could get to a computer lol....that's why I recommend (like others) to stay away from it unless u REALLY need to use it.
You were overzel'ed cuz of yo predictiment. Fess up man. Give po voodoo a chance.
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First off, the clockwork recovery doesn't work for x2. You have to use bsr recovery. As for applying updates, the stock recovery will do official motorola ota updates (like the 2.3.5 update), but it won't install custom ROMs. BSR will do ROMs and one time I did apply an OTA update with it, but your mileage may vary.
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BSR is what I meant. (I thought it was based off CWR?)
Either way, thanks! Now that you mention it, I think I remember hearing that somewhere.
Well we have a lame version of cwr, very old and adb will not work but the every day: BU, restore and flashing work fine, bsr = system recovery = cwr = (the new rerecovery) . See my thread in the dev sec. And how rerecovery solves the "data wipe dilemma". Btw it is rom manager and the newest CWR that do not work on our retard phone. RM will not tell you it does not work it will DL the latest 2025 ver and not do a thing.
Running 2.3.4 version 4.5.91 ATT/US SBF I believe, stock kernel, unlocked bootloader, rooted, and have Tenfar's CWM recovery.
I accidentally accepted the download for update to v4.5.141 (after hitting "Later" 1000 times), but had wifi turned off at the time and the download never started... now I can't turn back on wifi because the download will automatically start (triangle! with "Enable Wi-Fi to start download update" in notifications), and I don't want to brick the device if it runs and I can't cancel the install.
What can I do to cancel the OTA download and/or install and avoid bricking the device?
Any help is appreciated.
Hmm. I know it's possible to "freeze" the update notification (that is, either use the pro version of titanium backup, or put .bak after the appropriate system app). A few other threads have detailed how to do this.
You just accidentally downloaded it, right? It shouldn't install automatically; it would pop up another "install" vs. "later" prompt once the download finishes. I know there's another post around here (stickied?) that details how to back up your OTA update. You could probably use that thread to find your downloaded file & delete it.
Alternately, since you're unlocked you could always install another rom and skip the OTA process entirely. For example, Nottachtrix is based on the 4.5.141 build and comes with a stock Gingerbread theme if you want.
Thanks, I did see those threads you mentioned.
Before my mistake, I had already tried renaming /system/app/Upgrader.apk to .bak with root explorer, and rebooting to stop the download update popup... it didn't work, and kept prompting me, which I eventually accidentally accepted instead of hitting "Later".
I don't have the Pro version of TiBU Pro; I was thinking of upgrading it to freeze Upgrader when I was trying to stop the download update prompts, but as I mentioned I accepted the download before I could do that.
I was also considering flashing Nottachtrix since that seemed to be the only safe way I saw to update to 4.5.141 with the unlocked bootloader. can I safely flash that now, even though the update is pending?
I'll be honest and say I don't know with certainty. BUT -- I don't see why you couldn't download Nottachtrix on your computer, drop it onto your phone's SD card, and flash it from there (without ever turning your phone's wifi back on). Your phone is booted & not in the middle of an active install. It's just waiting to download a file which would requires your input to begin installing anyway.
If you're really concerned about it, you could do the Seriously Complete Wipe before flashing the new rom by using the following method (thanks CaelanT):
For the best results, when you want to flash a new ROM you should always perform a full wipe in fastboot per the following to make sure you will avoid any unforeseen complications:
reboot to recovery
wipe Dalvik
reboot to fastboot
fastboot erase boot
fastboot erase system
fastboot erase userdata
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase webtop
fastboot erase preinstall
fastboot reboot (to recovery)
flash ROM
reboot
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One more note: it looks like Tenfar's recovery is considered "old" round these parts, and most roms don't play well unless you flash them using romracer's CWM recovery. So that should probably be your first step. It's here.
thanks for the recommendations. I guess I will uninstall Tenfar's recovery, install romracer's recovery, do the Seriously Complete Wipe, and then flash Nottachrix. Let me know if any of that sounds wrong.
Will I lose my apps or my titanium backup of apps & system data by doing the Seriously Complete Wipe? If so what do I need to do to be able to restore my apps and system data after the wipe & flash?
Hey, no problem at all. (by the way, you don't need to uninstall your current recovery, just flash the new one per the instructions.)
Oh yeah, a second note: you'll need to rename two particular files before flashing the new recovery. From another stickied thread:
Anyone having issues not being able to boot into CWM recovery after flashing it (such as seeing android guy with exclamation mark):
Delete or rename /system/etc/install-recovery.sh AND /etc/install-recovery.sh I renamed mine to bkup.install-recovery.sh in case i ever wanted to use them again for some reason.
/etc/install-recovery.sh will automatically be placed in /system/etc if /system/etc/install-recovery.sh is not found on boot.
So, you must delete or rename both, THEN INSTALL CWM recovery.
rename the files using ROM Toolbox's root explorer as some file explorers will not give you the proper access levels to delete or rename the files correctly.c
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Okay, on to apps & data. Yes, you're going to lose all your data in the wipes, but the backups you made will be intact. TiBu is fine for your apps; I use "MyBackup Root" (free on the market) for my contacts, SMS, MMS, etc. After flashing the new rom, you'll have the market pre-installed. Use it to re-download TiBu, restore your backed-up apps (NOT EVER system data. Just apps+their data.), then restore the rest from there.
I did everything, and it worked well. thanks for confirming it was safe and the extra tips!
I had already uninstalled Tenfar's recovery by the time I saw your response. I thought it may conflict, didn't know.
I didn't have to rename those 2 files to be able to boot into CWM recovery... the files weren't present before or after installing CWM recovery and it worked.
Thanks again for the tips on the seriously complete wipe and the MyBackup Root, they worked well.
Almost everything was restored after flashing the ROM except for a few minor settings. I somehow have a ton of contacts because I have all my Google contacts, my Blur contacts (a lot of dupes of Google ones), and a lot of extra old gmail e-mail contacts that I wish it didn't populate. Nothing to complain about because I would rather there be extra unnecessary contacts than missing ones.
The only issues I have is that the ROM shows the 3G img at all times... so I have to do some speed tests and troubleshooting to see if I am stuck in 3G or if it is just the known bug in the ROM where 3G is always displayed.
I have N_01.77.30P radio and I saw some people are running 36 or 37, and some people on AT&T installed an additional APN that improved performance.
If anyone has any input on the 3G, radio, or APN issues, please let me know.
atrix issues
Hello members,
i am new to android and learning to understand the jargon of experts here. Reason for joining xda is following:
I (from India) have a motorola atrix 4g that i purchased from a friend in US (it was on AT&T.)
1) when I start my phone -is says on top unlocked. Does it means it is unlocked / unrooted? and I cannot install the OTA updates from Motorola like ICS 4 coming in Q3?
2) I clicked on system update and downloaded the update over wifi. When it started the install it got failed with a triangle and ! mark. I had to remove the battery and start the phone after which it kept on rebooting . Saw in some forum that i had to do a factory reset and after doing that it worked but I lost everything. I had to reinstall all the apps. Is there a way to reinstall the latest OTA updates from Motorola with doing / playing much with ROM? if not then please let me know a simple and safe way.
3) After doing factory reset i accidentally clicked on system update and now the update is downloaded over wifi but i did not install by selecting "install later" . However the popup keeps coming up and i want to disable it. kindly advise how this notification can be stopped.
Thanks in advance