Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
from scratch
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
haha Yeah roms are pretty addictive! So my background in rooting is limited to the Thunderbolt, which is my first smartphone. I used the Revolutionary IO method, which got me S-Off and root. But after reading through the Juopunutbear (Unlimited IO), I am slightly confused. I definitely did not do the wiring procedures involving the antennae contacts to get S-Off with the thunderbolt. I did more research and it sounds like the S-Off in thunderbolt is a "fake" S-off from a patched hboot?
That also leads to my next questions... up until now, I thought the following:
1. hboot = bootloader, which is the "BIOS" of the phone
2. In order to be rooted, S-off must happen first (this I guess is not true from your steps)
3. Recovery = part of hboot (from what I've read so far, this is incorrect too)
Also, would you elaborate on step #4? I thought unlocked is what I want, but instead I really want to have S-off and locked bootloader?
Thanks!
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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yep
yo!
hboot is bootloader alright: some folks like a modified hboot which lets you do more than stock hboot.
personally I keep the stock ICS hboot 2.25.
nope, you dont have to be s-0ff to be rooted, only unlocked.
You can do most all modifications with unlock EXCEPT go back to previous hboot & rom.
Recovery is separate from hboot. Recovery is a menu choice in hboot.
A new recovery can only be installed if unlocked or s-0ff.
There's ClockworkMod and AmonRa. You'll wanna check them out both, I like Amon Ra.
re: step #4.
I know it's counterintuitive, but if you unlock it again after s-0ff, even though it's s-0ff, you will
have a nasty PINK Tampered flag every time you boot to hboot/custom recovery. And that crappy reminder stays
even after you you relock. The Juopunutbear process relocks the phone, making it S-0ff, Locked. Perfect.
Now with S-0ff, locked or unlocked doesn't matter regarding any roms or radios you may install and No warning flags.
Dont be intimidated by the wire procedure for s-0ff, just read it so many times beforehand that you effen KNOW it.
Enjoy: my Zound is so fast cool and perfect now that ive customized it to my useage pattern - hoping for
same experience for you!.
dashbored said:
Hi all! This is my first post and hope it's not too silly of a question. I am currently using a Thunderbolt but very likely will be upgrading to a Rezound (I have both phones now). I know the ICS OTA is out for Rezound. I want to get root and S-off on Rezound running the stock ICS OTA, but I am not sure about the order of events.
1. Should I get S-off and root on the stock Gingerbread rom per the instructions in this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1823362), and then upgrade to the ICS OTA? Or should I upgrade the stock Gingerbread to ICS OTA and then attempt to get S-off and root?
2. Is a confirmed s-off/root procedure out for the stock ICS OTA? sorry if I missed it - I promise I did my best searching through the forum before posting
I thought I'd start with the stock ICS OTA rom so I'll get a baseline for when I try out other roms down the road. And from what I've read here, the stock rom is probably a little bit more robust for day to day (correct me if I am wrong!). I hate the verizon bloatware and I think I'd be happy for a while if I can have S-off and root on the stock ICS.
thanks in advance for any help!
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I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
I sold the Thunderbolt today and so now I've officially transitioned over to the Rezound! The phone is the stock gingerbread. I am dying to root it if only just so I can use titanium back up to transfer my crap over.
Thanks guys for the helpful replies! I've decided that right now, what I want is to be on the ICS OTA but with S-off & root so I can remove the bloat and optimize it. I'll stay with that for a bit to get a baseline before trying out different ROMs
What kind of wires did you guys use for the S-off procedure? Do I need to go out and buy something specific, or is there something around the typical household setting that I can grab? Obviously, not frying the phone is top priority. I've read through too much posts in the past 48 hours and I've come across a few that mentioned fried USB ports and even dead phones that had to be returned, which's made me a bit tentative. But I want S-off, so any pointers/comments you may have that would help about this would be much appreciated!
michaelbsheldon - question about your steps #1 & #2. Aren't these extraneous steps, as in you could just do the S-off wire with the stock Gingerbread? I am kinda confused as to the purpose of unlocking it first via HTC Dev and flashing a stockish ROM before the wire trick.
bloodymurderlive said:
I basically had the exact same questions. Here's what I figured out:
S-Off, then Stock Recovery, then ICS OTA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821303
After post #6, go to the next link...
... Then flash AR Recovery 3.15:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827263
I had to unlock my hboot again, which means I wiped my data... However, I've read that adding a custom hboot is very risky, since your phone can't run anything if this gets screwed up. I'm no expert, but this is what I've read. So re-unlocking felt safer to me, even if it was probably a little more hassle. Better than bricking, imo.
A word of caution about custom recovery: Clockwork Mod (CWM) has a serious bug that does not allow the Rezound to charge properly! When my battery died, I had to use my wife's Thunderbolt to charge the battery before I could turn my Rezound back on... A royal pain. I installed AR Recovery, and it's perfect.
... Then continue at the first link at post #7 for how to use AR Recovery to flash superSU to restore root.
I'm thinking about writing up a simple guide, since that was the hardest thing for me to find through this process.
Rezound
AR Recovery 3.15
Stock hboot
ICS OTA
Rooted
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Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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I'm going to give you a response this afternooon... I recommend that you don't do anything until I can clarify some things. brt...
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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It doesn't matter much if you do the OTA update before or after s-off. If it were me, I would do the OTA update first, especially if you are still locked....then unlock and do s-off using the proper ICS (for .5) jounuputbear. You can keep the stock hboot. NO NEED to unlock after s-off! AFter s-off, flash your Amonra recovery and then flash your SU...or just flash a rooted ROM. I haven't looked a lot, but I bet there is a stock, rooted, debloated ROM based on this OTA...just flash that and you'll be all set! ....
dashbored said:
Thanks for the tip about the CWM recovery! As I no longer have a thunderbolt, I would've been totally screwed. Question though - it sounds like you did what michaelbsheldon said not to do, re-unlock after you're S-off. Do you have the pink flag that he mentioned?
So here's my plan to get my Rezound into a S-off, rooted ICS OTA - please let me know if it's valid:
1a (waiting for michaelbsheldon reply if truly necessary, or if can proceed on stock GB) - HTC Dev unlock and flash Cleanrom 175
1. S-off wire procedure
2. Apply ICS OTA update
3. Apply global roaming update (if available? read about this in the past few days)
4. Since no need to unlock, flash appropriate Superuser for ICS OTA (will google, or if anyone would like to help make sure I find the right one, please feel free to link )
5. flash Amonra recovery. Keep stock hboot.
6. Install root explorer to delete VZ bloatware and titanium backup to restore apps and data from Thunderbolt
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dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Flash CleanROM?
I see very little point in flashing a ROM, if you're trying to get the official ICS, root, and S-OFF. I believe the purpose of flashing the ROM is that the ROM is already rooted for you. However, you will need to re-root after you install the OTA, so why not do the same process twice (flash superSU) rather than two different processes (flash ROM, flash superSU)? Seems to me that flashing CleanROM introduces more variables than necessary.
MOST IMPORTANTLY: Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about, but I wouldn't try to install the OTA unless you are running stock Gingerbread. Alternatively, you could try to find a ROM based on the official ICS OTA, but the OTA is still very new... I would just do it the "proper" way (install through Gingerbread) and let those ROMs cook a little more before playing with them.
S-OFF before or after OTA?
I recommend achieving S-OFF before installing the OTA. The S-OFF procedure may very well work with the OTA, but it is guaranteed to work with stock Gingerbread. There is an ICS option in hansoon2000's all-in-one toolkit, but this is based on a leak... Which again is probably very similar (if not identical) to the OTA. But the official OTA is very new, so... In my opinion, the surest thing is to achieve S-OFF before installing the OTA.
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
It is kind of a pain to go through the HTC unlock process twice, but hey... It's up to you how much risk you're willing to take with your brand new Rezound. I took the safe route. It took maybe a little more time, and I had to do some steps twice (achieving root for GB, then for ICS... unlocking before and after ICS...), but since you only have to go through this whole process once, I recommend playing it safe.
PINK Tampered flag?
I unlocked again after achieving S-OFF. I just double-checked, and I do not see any pink "Tampered" flag anywhere in my bootloader. If you follow my instructions below, this shouldn't happen.
My start-to-finish recommendation:
If the end result you're looking for is ICS OTA, rooted, S-OFF, then I recommend you follow these guides, in the following order:
1: Scotty's noob-friendly guide to root Rezound:
http://androidforums.com/rezound-al...ys-noob-friendly-root-guide-start-finish.html
One thing to note: Scotty gives instructions both for temporary and permanent flashing of custom recovery. In your case, I would recommend doing the temporary flash. This will allow you to flash superSU (achieve root) - which you need to do in order to achieve S-OFF - but it will also save you the hassle of later having to flash the stock recovery back - which you need to have in order to install the OTA.
2: My guide to achieve S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_kRxD5LtazP7vEnr9cDb3iHwWB1ZfJD_yn6xXo7d1bo/edit
3: My guide to install the OTA after rooting and S-OFF:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tmlh4OnplVfBNSjSyXfTYIVGfyb9lgI6ABpfg7gHY44/edit
If you flashed a temporary recovery, then you can skip to step 7 in this guide to verify that you have stock recovery on your device. If you do, then you should be able to initiate the OTA from within Gingerbread, and successfully install. In other words: If you flashed a temporary recovery, you can follow steps 7 to the end in this guide.
These three guides together, in the order that I listed them, are the exact steps I followed to achieve the same thing that you say you're shooting for: official ICS, rooted, S-OFF. I think these steps are the least risky steps you can take to achieve these things.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored
Unlock after S-OFF?
My bootloader was locked after I installed the OTA update. What I discovered was that I was unable to flash any custom recoveries (AR Recovery 3.15). Even though I was S-OFF, I still needed to unlock before it would let me flash a recovery.
What I think some people do after achieving S-OFF is install a custom bootloader, and this is why they're able to install custom recoveries without having to unlock again. This is risky. As I understand it, nothing can run on your Rezound if your bootloader has a problem. So if you happen to install a corrupt bootloader, you could brick your Rezound.
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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FYI: AFter you s-off you can not use fastboot flash commands unless you install the JB Hboot at the end of the S-off process (it should offer you the option) That is the custom hboot you refer to. All flashers are encouraged to check MD5 sum of the files they download before flashing (primarily RUU, hboot/radios..not so much roms). This will guard against corrupted files, making the process less risky.
If you have the ph98img.zip file version of amonra, it will flash just fine in the stock hboot. Hboot picks it up when it scans for ph98img.zip files and you select yes to install.
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
topgun1953 said:
Personally, I've kept the stock hboot because there are ph98img.zip files of anything I've needed to flash so I don't have a need to be using a lot of fastboot commands.
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Exactly... I prefer that my Rezound is self-sufficient, without needing a PC to mess with it.
Good note on fast boot!
stock or rooted
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
michaelbsheldon said:
Hiya, You're getting ready to become addicted to roms, by the way.
All your choices are kind of 'what do you want' things, but assuming you
receive it with stock Gingerbread, easiest thing would be to:
1 unlock by way of HTC Development instructions - lots of info here on xda
2 flash Cleanrom 175 a gingerbread stockish rooted rom
3 do the S-0ff thing with Juopunutbear, being careful not to amend or skip
any instructions in the S-0ff recipe (critical).
4 now your phone is s-0ff and locked. leave it just that way: no unlocks ever needed again and no pink warnings
5 flash Android police newest ICS RUU
6 flash amon ra as a PBIMG in recovery
7 use amon ra to wipe and install ANYTHING you want
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Click to collapse
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
flspanky said:
I am new to this and need help when performing a wipe with amon ra there are a lot of options in recovery for the wipe, and I am not sure which option to do. Can you help.
Thanks
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What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
bloodymurderlive said:
dashbored... The thing you need to understand is that everyone has their own way of doing things. You need to either (a) study everything everyone says until you understand everything well enough to create your own process, or (b) follow somebody else's process. I will provide you with one below.
In regards to the latest comments...
Keep us posted on how it goes!
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Wow thank you for that informative reply! That really cleared up all of my questions. I now have two new, minor questions.
1. The audio clip for the S-off wire trick has two distinct tones. From watching the video, it looks like the different tones don't matter. Basically just hit tap and release as the metronome hits the first beat, and then again on the second beat. Correct?
2. This is probably a silly question, but what are the advantages of Amon Ra recovery over the stock?
I am too tired tonight, but I think I am going to give this a go this weekend...
michaelbsheldon said:
Dashboard:
Juopunutbear instructions require a rooted rom.
So if you wanna go S-0ff, you CAN use a stock rom, but it must
be rooted (SU and Busybox) for the S-0ff process to work.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
bloodymurderlive said:
What are you trying to accomplish? Root? In that case, I believe you need to use amon ra to Wipe cache, then Wipe dalvik cache. Then.com use it to flash superSU.
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Thanks. I was installing the ICS Global root and ROM and the instructions said to wipe all, and I was not sure how many areas under the wiping options I should perform.
Quick update - I've rooted my Rezound. Have not done the S-off wire trick yet. Still on stock GB.
Question - none of the wifi tether app seems to be working! Open garden was working perfectly for me with my old rooted Thunderbolt. A quick search seems to show that Rezound has issues with wifi tethering?! This was one of the main motivations behind rooting, so I am a feeling a bit underwhelmed right now with my new Rezound...
Newest wifi tether works fine...even has Rezound settings. Since you are still on GB search for sirgatez mod. Worked great for me when I was still on GB.
Sent from my HTC Rezound / ADR6425LVW using Tapatalk v2.2.7
I was having extreme problems after flashing a custom ROM on my TB, so I took extreme measures and flashed an RUU, and now I'm back to stock. Well, stock except being S-OFF with the Revolutionary hboot. The RUU's kept saying "cannot roll back bootloader", which is fine by me. My phone is still booting, and running just like stock.
I was just wanting some directions on how to just install a recovery and get root again. All the instructions I can find, including the All In One tool, run me through gaining S-OFF and then rooting. I'm still S-OFF, so I'd rather not touch replacing hboot again.
Or, would it be easiest to flash a Stock/Rooted ROM, and if so, can someone provide a reference or link? I've been burned in the past of people claiming Stock/Rooted on my old phone, but actually making custom changes with negative effects for me.
dbighead77 said:
I was having extreme problems after flashing a custom ROM on my TB, so I took extreme measures and flashed an RUU, and now I'm back to stock. Well, stock except being S-OFF with the Revolutionary hboot. The RUU's kept saying "cannot roll back bootloader", which is fine by me. My phone is still booting, and running just like stock.
I was just wanting some directions on how to just install a recovery and get root again. All the instructions I can find, including the All In One tool, run me through gaining S-OFF and then rooting. I'm still S-OFF, so I'd rather not touch replacing hboot again.
Or, would it be easiest to flash a Stock/Rooted ROM, and if so, can someone provide a reference or link? I've been burned in the past of people claiming Stock/Rooted on my old phone, but actually making custom changes with negative effects for me.
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Use S-OFF but no root in the extras menu of the tool if it doesn't ask you to install on first open
So i just got my One yesterday and it still has the .7 firmware / rom on it. I am going to root it and s-off right now, but just wondering a couple things.
1. Can or should i use an ruu to update the firmware to the more recent versions?
2. If yes, will this make me lose root or s-off? (i would imagine root would be easy enough to get back as long as i still have s-off)
thanks!!
At the moment, unless the situation has changed, there isn't an RUU for the TMo HTC One. One was released the other day, but it didn't work and HTC pulled the download. For now, I'd wait a couple of days to see if they release a fixed version. Your only other option would be to flash the .ZIP with the updated radio after going S-OFF.
Sisyphus306 said:
At the moment, unless the situation has changed, there isn't an RUU for the TMo HTC One. One was released the other day, but it didn't work and HTC pulled the download. For now, I'd wait a couple of days to see if they release a fixed version. Your only other option would be to flash the .ZIP with the updated radio after going S-OFF.
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Ah.. ok. That makes sense. I downloaded one that was labeled for TMO, but i will just wait until it all gets sorted out. I am not to concerned about the radio, those are always easy to flash. Was wondering if there was anything else in the firmware i needed (like when the one s got jellybean there was WIFI partitions that needed to get flashed for everything to work properly)
For anyone else that is searching for this answer, here is what i ended up doing and it worked well.
My phone came with the .7 build install (this was the very first build before any updates). I rooted, and went s-off BEFORE ANY OTA's we taken. At this point i still had the original stock rom, it was just rooted. Since I always like to at least try the newest firmware out (cause you never know what benefits it may have) I flashed the STOCK TMO recovery back onto the phone.
Now you can boot into your OS, and go through the normal OTA process that you would get in any unrooted rom. Once those updates are complete you will be on the latest firmware and ROM from TMO, but no root access. Since you still are S-OFF, you have no problems here, flash TWRP back on (or CWM, i prefer TWRP) and flash whatever you want.
Hope that helps someone else that may be looking for the same answers.
frettfreak said:
For anyone else that is searching for this answer, here is what i ended up doing and it worked well.
My phone came with the .7 build install (this was the very first build before any updates). I rooted, and went s-off BEFORE ANY OTA's we taken. At this point i still had the original stock rom, it was just rooted. Since I always like to at least try the newest firmware out (cause you never know what benefits it may have) I flashed the STOCK TMO recovery back onto the phone.
Now you can boot into your OS, and go through the normal OTA process that you would get in any unrooted rom. Once those updates are complete you will be on the latest firmware and ROM from TMO, but no root access. Since you still are S-OFF, you have no problems here, flash TWRP back on (or CWM, i prefer TWRP) and flash whatever you want.
Hope that helps someone else that may be looking for the same answers.
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Would you mind linking the T-mobile stock recovery that you flashed? I'm in about the same situation you were in.
FYI, there is a working TMOUS RUU available now, you can download it through the following link. I downloaded it yesterday and used it last night, I can confirm it works.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=43963285&postcount=9
I was pretty sure that I had screwed my EVO beyond my ability to recover it. It's pretty noob level stuff, but I haven't been root since my OG EVO - and things were simpler then. Using the WinDroid tool I was able to easily unlock, twrp, and superuser my phone. Moonshine failed 30 or 40 times, so I was not able to achieve S-OFF, but I flashed an AOSP rom anyway and poof - screwed up my phone. I spent the entire day in TWRP / fastboot /flashing stock **** to get my phone working again. At one point in the process I lost the ability to mount usb so I was particularly screwed at that point. I eventually gave in and formated sdcard, then was able to push a stock rom, flashed that a few times, and also a superuser.zip and eventually I was back to running stock 3.17. I've learned something today - I think I'm better off just waiting until December when we get 4.3 and Sense 5 from HTC... Gah - what a day.
Anyway, thank you to the innumerable posts that pointed to the Don't Pank Q&A and elsewhere on the forums. Searching + reading = solution, most of the time. Also, if you (noob to semi-noob) have already OTA updated to 3.17 don't try to S-OFF until a developer has solved this problem, because you are (probably) going to screw it up (and fail).
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SimianJones said:
I was pretty sure that I had screwed my EVO beyond my ability to recover it. It's pretty noob level stuff, but I haven't been root since my OG EVO - and things were simpler then. Using the WinDroid tool I was able to easily unlock, twrp, and superuser my phone. Moonshine failed 30 or 40 times, so I was not able to achieve S-OFF, but I flashed an AOSP rom anyway and poof - screwed up my phone. I spent the entire day in TWRP / fastboot /flashing stock **** to get my phone working again. At one point in the process I lost the ability to mount usb so I was particularly screwed at that point. I eventually gave in and formated sdcard, then was able to push a stock rom, flashed that a few times, and also a superuser.zip and eventually I was back to running stock 3.17. I've learned something today - I think I'm better off just waiting until December when we get 4.3 and Sense 5 from HTC... Gah - what a day.
Anyway, thank you to the innumerable posts that pointed to the Don't Pank Q&A and elsewhere on the forums. Searching + reading = solution, most of the time. Also, if you (noob to semi-noob) have already OTA updated to 3.17 don't try to S-OFF until a developer has solved this problem, because you are (probably) going to screw it up (and fail).
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Has anyone on 3.17 tried DirtyRacun + BabyRacun for S-OFF? Everyone is saying Moonshine doesn't work, but if BabyRacun works, S-OFF would still be possible using any of the 3 existing methods.
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Has anyone on 3.17 tried DirtyRacun + BabyRacun for S-OFF? Everyone is saying Moonshine doesn't work, but if BabyRacun works, S-OFF would still be possible using any of the 3 existing methods.
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Having thoroughly butt-fudged my phone last week, I am going to refrain from experimenting (at least until after I take comps in January).
SimianJones said:
Having thoroughly butt-fudged my phone last week, I am going to refrain from experimenting (at least until after I take comps in January).
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Maybe if I get bored, I'll experiment with it.
And down the rabbit hole I go . . .
Got BabyRacun to work (after a hex edit to the file) to downgrade my mainver to 3.15.651.16, but the 3.15 RUU won't run. So . . .
I'm going to flash the 3.15 ROM manually through fastboot (boot.img & system.img) and then try DirtyRacun to see if it works. If that doesn't, I may try the 3.15 firmware package and see if that helps.
Alright, so here's where I am. I was able to downgrade my firmware successfully using the 3.16 extended firmware zip from Haus, and now it's just a matter of flashing 3.16 stock rooted so I can Moonshine. At least I proved it could be done, even if it wasn't easy. I believe Moonshine is going to be updated for it to work with 3.17 anyway, so this may have just been an opportunity for me to be reminded of all the crazy stuff I used to do to try and get S-OFF to work, lol.
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Alright, so here's where I am. I was able to downgrade my firmware successfully using the 3.16 extended firmware zip from Haus, and now it's just a matter of flashing 3.16 stock rooted so I can Moonshine. At least I proved it could be done, even if it wasn't easy. I believe Moonshine is going to be updated for it to work with 3.17 anyway, so this may have just been an opportunity for me to be reminded of all the crazy stuff I used to do to try and get S-OFF to work, lol.
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But you still do not effectively have S-OFF with 3.17, right? I think you can flash the 3.17 radios separately, though, but I think there might be other stability fixes to sense that you would be lacking. Thanks for experimenting though.
JJW
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But you still do not effectively have S-OFF with 3.17, right? I think you can flash the 3.17 radios separately, though, but I think there might be other stability fixes to sense that you would be lacking. Thanks for experimenting though.
JJW
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Huh? Yes, I have S-OFF. What would I be lacking? I re-updated to the 3.17 firmware after S-OFF, and then flashed the 3.17 stock rooted. What fixes would I be missing?
At any rate, I'm running CM10.2 anyway.
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Huh? Yes, I have S-OFF. What would I be lacking? I re-updated to the 3.17 firmware after S-OFF, and then flashed the 3.17 stock rooted. What fixes would I be missing?
At any rate, I'm running CM10.2 anyway.
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Ah, I thought that reflashing the 3.17 rooted stock rom would have pushed S-ON. Again thanks for looking at this.
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Ah, I thought that reflashing the 3.17 rooted stock rom would have pushed S-ON. Again thanks for looking at this.
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No, flashing a ROM won't put you back S-on. The fact is that Captain was able to find a way to downgrade from 3.17 S-on and still get S-off, which was the ultimate goal in his experiment. Much like back when people downgraded from Hboot 1.15 or 1.19 and used Lazy Panda to gain S-off prior to the Dirty Racun method being available.
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