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So I kind of thought that once any temp root was established, that one could write a recovery which would in turn, enable the ability to flash a rooted ROM... thus giving a semi-perm root....
Why can we not do this?
Are we unable to flash a recovery with our temp root?
Or does flashing a recovery require S-OFF? Which, pardon me if I am mistaken, but I thought we DIDN'T have S-OFF in the beginning when we were doing the 4Gs yet we were still able to flash rooted ROMs.
And if it is an eng bootloader we need, don't we have one for the 3D?
From what I understand, the partition where we can write the eng hboot is encrypted, so we need to get around that before we can do anything major.
Dont complain atleast you guys have some form of root
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edufur said:
So I kind of thought that once any temp root was established, that one could write a recovery which would in turn, enable the ability to flash a rooted ROM... thus giving a semi-perm root....
Why can we not do this?
Are we unable to flash a recovery with our temp root?
Or does flashing a recovery require S-OFF? Which, pardon me if I am mistaken, but I thought we DIDN'T have S-OFF in the beginning when we were doing the 4Gs yet we were still able to flash rooted ROMs.
And if it is an eng bootloader we need, don't we have one for the 3D?
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I thought the same thing. But its a different hboot, needing different things. Idk the mechanics of it all, but obviously we would have done that by now if tht were true..
Just a heads up, prepare to get possibly flammed
the problem is that we dont have enough arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass holes making posts implying that the devs are incompetent. so for that, i thank you for doing your part to help
you obviously have no idea what is involved in cracking this phone open. threads like this do nothing but discourage people who are doing this for FUN. so do us all a favor and do some research before making a new thread. you know, maybe get a clue about what you are talking about first?
My post wasnt ment to insult ot was ment to inply that you sould be thankfull for what the devs have been able to acheve for you if you want it faster try it yourself
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Omgadroid said:
My post wasnt ment to insult ot was ment to inply that you sould be thankfull for what the devs have been able to acheve for you if you want it faster try it yourself
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my post was aimed at no one other than the op
Easy fellas, I think he was just genuinly curious, not condecsendingly asking why.
ill break it down the best i can, this phone is very well secured. all previously know exploits have been patched. additionally s-on seems to be controlled by the radio and checks its integrity in the hboot on boot up. this means not only will the hboot need to be modified but also this checking at boot. anything trying to be flashed is also checked against a private signature which cannot be "hacked" of duplicated or tricked etc etc. also, the s-on prevents any writing to system partitions without passing the signature check.
so to sum it up,
cannot crack signature
cannot write to system
cannot replace hboot/radio/kernal/recovery without signature
cannot modify radio since cannot write to system partitions
basically up **** creek as the saying goes. the above reasons are why we only have temp root as any changes to system areas of the phone are wiped with a reboot since you never actually wrote those values due to system partitions being locked.
older phones, ie og evo did not have the level of protections that this phone/sensation have. this is a whole new beast and will take time. follow the root thread and read before making stupid assumptions.
I kno u wernt targeting me i just didnt want to offend
Btw have u herd anything about the
Evo 4g
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Omgadroid said:
I kno u wernt targeting me i just didnt want to offend
Btw have u herd anything about the
Evo 4g
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Bout what? its latest update?
Omgadroid said:
I kno u wernt targeting me i just didnt want to offend
Btw have u herd anything about the
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nope, in the same boat. new gingerbread update and hboot closed all known holes.
Oh ok im not much of a tec on android i just know my servers lol thanks
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ill break it down the best i can, this phone is very well secured. all previously know exploits have been patched. additionally s-on seems to be controlled by the radio and checks its integrity in the hboot on boot up. this means not only will the hboot need to be modified but also this checking at boot. anything trying to be flashed is also checked against a private signature which cannot be "hacked" of duplicated or tricked etc etc. also, the s-on prevents any writing to system partitions without passing the signature check.
so to sum it up,
cannot crack signature
cannot write to system
cannot replace hboot/radio/kernal/recovery without signature
cannot modify radio since cannot write to system partitions
basically up **** creek as the saying goes. the above reasons are why we only have temp root as any changes to system areas of the phone are wiped with a reboot since you never actually wrote those values due to system partitions being locked.
older phones, ie og evo did not have the level of protections that this phone/sensation have. this is a whole new beast and will take time. follow the root thread and read before making stupid assumptions.
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I thought the @secu flag has always been set by the radio config. Hence the difference between eng s-off and radio s-off. Meaning an eng h-boot doesn't actually change the flag, it is just made so the radio thinks its off allowing for manufacturer testing and development. No offense intended to anyone. Just curious if I'm wrong or if that had changed.
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DomSim said:
the problem is that we dont have enough arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass holes making posts implying that the devs are incompetent. so for that, i thank you for doing your part to help
you obviously have no idea what is involved in cracking this phone open. threads like this do nothing but discourage people who are doing this for FUN. so do us all a favor and do some research before making a new thread. you know, maybe get a clue about what you are talking about first?
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The OP isnt the one being an arrogant ass hole here.
How could anyone be discouraged by an honest question? really?
This is the Q&A section, is it not?
He is not the only person with this question and unless you fully understand whats involved, searching isnt going to make things any easier.
If you want to police this thread then maybe you should become a moderator.
Until then keep it to youself, the devs can speak for themselves,
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the problem is that we dont have enough arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass holes making posts implying that the devs are incompetent. so for that, i thank you for doing your part to help
you obviously have no idea what is involved in cracking this phone open. threads like this do nothing but discourage people who are doing this for FUN. so do us all a favor and do some research before making a new thread. you know, maybe get a clue about what you are talking about first?
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So i keep coming on here looking for updated info on whats going on with perm root. When temp root was first established it sounded like perm root was right around the corner. I have not found a solid thread or place to find updated info, without those things questions like this in the Q AND A section are going to come up.
So how about instead of being a arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass hole(copy and pasted if you couldn't tell), you kindly direct people to a place where this info is available and answer the question.
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So i keep coming on here looking for updated info on whats going on with perm root. When temp root was first established it sounded like perm root was right around the corner. I have not found a solid thread or place to find updated info, without those things questions like this in the Q AND A section are going to come up.
So how about instead of being a arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass hole(copy and pasted if you couldn't tell), you kindly direct people to a place where this info is available and answer the question.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1140578
Here you go
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DomSim said:
the problem is that we dont have enough arrogant, ignorant, impatient ass holes making posts implying that the devs are incompetent. so for that, i thank you for doing your part to help
you obviously have no idea what is involved in cracking this phone open. threads like this do nothing but discourage people who are doing this for FUN. so do us all a favor and do some research before making a new thread. you know, maybe get a clue about what you are talking about first?
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whether or not there exist posts like this will definitely not discourage someone, sometime, from cracking this thing open. In other words, it will happen no matter how much one nags or not. Posts like yours are just as discouraging to those who have the potential to donate to developers. Kettle meet pot.
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whether or not there exist posts like this will definitely not discourage someone, sometime, from cracking this thing open. In other words, it will happen no matter how much one nags or not. Posts like yours are just as discouraging to those who have the potential to donate to developers. Kettle meet pot.
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oh i know im an ass hole. but i do my research before making making posts or asking questions. seriously, everything the op needed to know is in the sticky threads. is it really that hard to find? he could have also used the search function. point is, making threads like, "whats taking you so long?" is insulting. a tiny bit of reading could have save him from it.
JBO1018 said:
I thought the @secu flag has always been set by the radio config. Hence the difference between eng s-off and radio s-off. Meaning an eng h-boot doesn't actually change the flag, it is just made so the radio thinks its off allowing for manufacturer testing and development. No offense intended to anyone. Just curious if I'm wrong or if that had changed.
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i believe you are 100% right here.
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
oh mercyful lord, please forgive us, for we have forsaken the most sacred rule!
we have so forgotten that in hacking a device we must not only defeat all security measures on said device, we must do more then include instructions for free on how to do it yourself. we must make it so it does it for you.
/sarcasm
seriously dude? you think that this thought hadnt crossed anyones mind? unrevoked does htc, hence why there is no unrevoked for all the locked moto bootloaders. rather then complain about it take a dive, learn some code figure out how things work and try helping.
and in case you didnt pick up on the irony of it all, check teh dev section i have a one click... just need to fix it thats all >_>
shabbypenguin said:
oh mercyful lord, please forgive us, for we have forsaken the most sacred rule!
we have so forgotten that in hacking a device we must not only defeat all security measures on said device, we must do more then include instructions for free on how to do it yourself. we must make it so it does it for you.
/sarcasm
seriously dude? you think that this thought hadnt crossed anyones mind? unrevoked does htc, hence why there is no unrevoked for all the locked moto bootloaders. rather then complain about it take a dive, learn some code figure out how things work and try helping.
and in case you didnt pick up on the irony of it all, check teh dev section i have a one click... just need to fix it thats all >_>
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Well said!
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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Dude No!
Look im here to learn android roms but been in IT computer and networks for years (im a WAN networks guy right now, mostly Cisco for the IP, contractor for AT&T and should be preping for my CCIE RS lab) you have no idea how cluless your post is..." I snap my fingers and I get a one shot "shrink wrap solution"...4 free..."
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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yeah way to bite the hand that feeds you...where i come from a dog like that gets put down for that sort of thing...
It takes some nerve to start a topic like this. If you don't like what it takes to unlock this phone feel free to find a better way yourself or move on to another phone.
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Mods please close this thread.
Guys, let's not let this forum get away from us. I've been apart of other forums that have been ruined by this same sense of entitlement. This stuff will all happen but you have to be patient. The Photon has only been out a very short time.
Besides, rooting is a very simple procedure with ADB. As Shabby said, the one click is on the way. Ticking off the developers is not the way to get things done faster. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. Please remember that before posting nonsense like this.
This thread is hilarious.
Sent from my PHOTON cannon
I am by no means a dev or any major IT training, but I found the dock root very easy. I rooted 2 phones in about 10mins and it was my first time.
ptfdmedic said:
Mods please close this thread.
Guys, let's not let this forum get away from us. I've been apart of other forums that have been ruined by this same sense of entitlement. This stuff will all happen but you have to be patient. The Photon has only been out a very short time.
Besides, rooting is a very simple procedure with ADB. As Shabby said, the one click is on the way. Ticking off the developers is not the way to get things done faster. Everyone deserves to be treated with respect. Please remember that before posting nonsense like this.
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Dude please tell me you have a photon some midnight rom goodness in the future will be wonderful
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inimitableac said:
Dude please tell me you have a photon some midnight rom goodness in the future will be wonderful
Sent from my PHOTON blaster!
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He does. \orgasm\
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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Obviously written by someone who didn't have an Evo on launch day, and doesn't remember that Unrevoked wasn't out until the phone had been out for quite some time. The original root method for the Evo was considerably more difficult than the new Photon method.
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jwischka said:
Obviously written by someone who didn't have an Evo on launch day, and doesn't remember that Unrevoked wasn't out until the phone had been out for quite some time. The original root method for the Evo was considerably more difficult than the new Photon method.
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Exactly.....I seem to remember it being like 16 or 18 steps, with some flash websites and and several reboots involved......I remember it took me like 3 hours...this one took me all of 5 minutes following the instructions so graciously provided.....I personally would like to thank Shabby, Y4J, and Caulk, and everyone else for even getting root and an unlocked bootloader option so quick.....OP be thankful for what you got, when I was your age there wasnt even such a thing as a cell phone.....let alone a smartphone that can run NORAD off half of its CPU ....seriously
hi
how did u get yours unlocked, i couldnt figure it out
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Exactly.....I seem to remember it being like 16 or 18 steps, with some flash websites and and several reboots involved......I remember it took me like 3 hours...this one took me all of 5 minutes following the instructions so graciously provided.....I personally would like to thank Shabby, Y4J, and Caulk, and everyone else for even getting root and an unlocked bootloader option so quick.....OP be thankful for what you got, when I was your age there wasnt even such a thing as a cell phone.....let alone a smartphone that can run NORAD off half of its CPU ....seriously
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actually i didnt have anything to do with it i just got a request to come over and see if i could help out
after looking up the photon and the issues ive been having i want out of my ns4g
lojak29 said:
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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By the way you type and spell, maybe you are just too dumb for a method like this. I am a complete noob when it comes to rooting and didn't have a single problem following the instructions. Don't assume that others are as stupid as you are. Most people here are happy with what has been given to us.
Im sorry. I know the question wasn't great. But if its really ok for this guy to be torn a new one for a simple question then xda has really changed for the worst.
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Im sorry. I know the question wasn't great. But if its really ok for this guy to be torn a new one for a simple question then xda has really changed for the worst.
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Totally agree. He had a suggestion, he did not insult anybody's intellectual property, nor did he directly or indirectly insult any dev for not putting out good work. He simply indicated that current methods are a little involved and that in an ideal environment, we should strive for simplicity. I don't know any dev worth their salt who isn't compelled to debug their code, to improve it, and to learn from their mistakes. Frankly I'm a little surprised at the reaction. Especially the comment about wanting to put the OP "out of his misery." Where I come from, any analogy to terminating somebody's life is incendiary and uncalled for.
no it wasnt a suggestion, it was a call to the devs to hurry up and make things.
I just had a suggestion, we should just make it simple for this fine phone and devs
or someone should develop a simple unrevoked root and unlock method just like the evo uses.
Current methods are rediculous, all though i got it done,its a hassle for others.
We need to get clockwork through rom manager and get this phone goin with some rom development
the hassle of unlocking bootloader is to much!!
Cmon devs make a one click tool!!
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would you rather not have a way to unlock it?
again my issue with it is here is a guy who hasnt done anything saying this needs to be done. if someone steps up and says hey i wanna do this or starts to ask question so they can contribute. ive no issues with helping them, but to bold face claim that things need to be done, and on a timely schedule is an issue for me.
why? coming from the epic im sure a lot of users can agree with teh issues that phone had, too many people were run off by people demanding crap.
Guys please ignore these type of threads.... Comming from the epic i would hate for 99% of users to lose great amazing devs because of the demanding 1%
You guys are doing great please ignore the non sense.
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Greetings! I hope you are having a fine day!
I am writing this to try to alleviate future issues for some of you.
Sunday night, I posted instructions for installing a certain update manually. Now, I am S-Off, and just assumed when I wrote it that anybody else flashing stuff like that would be too. This was apparently my mistake.
So in an effort to try to prevent future problems I am writing this, and hoping many of you will read it, and pay attention. Although I know that usually doesn't happen.
So, here we go:
If you are planning to manually flash anything other than a ROM, you should be S-Off. There is no excuse not to be, and no reason you shouldn't do it.
First, it's completely reversible. Second, it removes the "Unlocked" message from your phone.
It prevents the mainver older issue.
It lets you pretty much flash anything you want, whenever you want, as long as the phone is physically able. This means, if you flash something and it goes wrong, you can flash backwards to what you had before.
After S-Off, you DO NOT HAVE TO UNLOCK!!!!!! I cannot say this enough. S-Off is a step beyond unlocking. This is why we do it!
Reverting to S-On is as simple as flashing a full, released, OTA RUU and issuing a fastboot command to change the flag. Although the only reason I could see to do that is to return the phone.
If you aren't sure that a set of directions apply to you, ask first!
If you are following the directions, and something goes wrong, STOP!!!!!! Do not guess what to do, or try to go backwards unless you know for a fact it will work. Go online and ask for help. If you ask properly, somebody will help you. Some people live for the chance to help others.
When asking for help, say what you had before you started, what you were trying to do (with a link), what step you were on, and what the unexpected result was. POST THE EXACT MESSAGES!!!! Not an abbreviated version.
If a post does not specify that you need to be S-Off, read through the instructions before you start. If you see anything to do with a PH98IMG.zip file, or going into HBOOT, assume you should S-Off first. Simply to be safe.
I know this was all disjointed, but I was simply posting my responses to issues I see all too often that could easily have been avoided, or resolved much easier.
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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dsb9938 said:
So, to sum up.
S-Off Your Phone!
Thank you!
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Exactly. Plus educate yourself.
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also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
Thanks for the write up.
To be honest I am not sure what to do to update my firmware from that 100mb ota after reading that thread several times. Or if I even need to if I don't have a use for the gsm stuff. I am s-off though.
Edit: I forgot to mention, I am running ics firmware on the viper rom.
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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hgoldner said:
Nice thread, dsb9938, and right on point. Problem is, nobody reads. Nobody looks at the threads above and nobody searches. Alright, not nobody, but not enough people. The way I see it, if you are going to take the responsibility for manipulating the innards of your $200 handset, the least you could do is poke around for the right way to do things before just messing around and thinking Dad will buy you a new handset when you bork it. This Dad won't.
XDA is for people who take responsibility. If you can't handle that, please go play in someone else's sandbox.
If I had a dollar for every post in another current thread here that reflects users not reading posts only a page above, not checking stickies first, not using the search function, or just plain trolling, I could buy several Rezounds just to mess with and still have money left over for a Nexus 7.
/end rant
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While everything you said is true, people just need to be nicer to each other. We are all here to help each other, no need to be mean about it. :highfive:
antp121 said:
also, to add on, if you want to revert to s-on, RUN AN RUU FIRST!!!!!! it will brick your phone if you s-on on a modified/unsigned hboot!! although it is reversible (as i did tonight...derp) it was annoying. also if you want a guide on how to unbrick a rezound bricked by writing security flag 3 with an unsigned hboot, or caused by a damaged hboot via interrupted OTA update/RUU flash on a S-ON device, i will gladly do it, all props to meadows btw
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Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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wlmeng11 said:
Lol that's in giant font on the s-off tutorial.
Yet you still failed.
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I ruu'd that morning. I was playing mw3 and I completely spaced. It's all good now so does it matter?
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OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
synisterwolf said:
OK so im s-off do i need to "fastboot oem lock" before updating to the latest RUU????
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It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
AshtonTS said:
It kills me when people actually have no idea about things like that. I mean that's just common knowledge and could be found with a 5 minute Google search
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Google?
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86shelby said:
If I were a dev, I wouldn't include any options for s-on. It's simple to do, safe enough, and not scary at all.... It makes everyone's life much easier.
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With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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Geoi1006 said:
With all due respect alienating any portion of your user base is generally not good. I'm not s-off but it's only because I haven't been around a pc that's got an internet connection. I appreciate how easy it is but there are still those of us that have life situations that haven't allowed for the whole process yet.
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You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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I agree more people need to read and remember the rules and posts like this as well. Thank you for posting this, however i do disagree with one thing. I recently upgraded my firmware to the ICS update OTA(not the ICS update itself but the update that was pushed shortly after) which updated my hboot to 2.27, Locked. All is fine until I needed to flash a boot.img because of boot manager. No big deal until I get a "remote not allowed" return on a fastboot flash boot boot.img command. For some reason I can not for the life of me create a flashable zip to be flashed in recovery, and I'm too lazy to take my sdcard out to put a PH98IMG.ZIP file on there to flash boot.img in bootloader. So I had to unlock my bootloader to perform the fastboot command needed to get my phone back. Until there is a patched hboot 2.27, you will need to unlock your bootloader, or downgrade to jb_hboot. Just my 2 cents...
Great post. Thanks for writing it up.
I tried numerous times to get s off, and it just didnt work for me. I dont have a land line or a spare phone so I am very dependant on my phone. I can't have it in non working phone.
I appreciate all the work the drvs do and all the people who help us out to make our phones top notch. However, I do like how the devs have s on and s off roms
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
AshtonTS said:
You could download the stuff to your phone and transfer it via USB to your computer, or you could use tethering.
It's called being resourceful
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I see you talking but all I'm seeing is talking down to people. Trying to decide where the constructive portion of this thread is.
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That's definitely talking down to people. It's a big wave of arrogance emitting from this thread. Keep in mind a lot of these dudes are young Btw.
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scy1192 said:
I don't S-Off because brickings are always possible when S-Off, and S-On hasn't really inconvenienced me.
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Actually, bricking your phone, as unlikely as that is, is less likely when s-off since there are more options to recovery if you mess up.
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Long story short, kind of a newb, but flashed roms on my original evo years ago, so not completely dumb to all of this. I'm on hour 6 trying to get this fixed on my 4g LTE, while watching two little kids, and cannot get it, so I am asking for help from the community. I'm stuck at the splash screen and will not go any further.
My phone was updated to latest OTA (HBOOT 1.19), and S-ON. Thought I had the correct tutorial, and use the workaround, but it screwed me. I first did the HTCdev unlock method, and downloaded the latest nightly cyanogenmod 10 build. I used abd to flash boot.img. After restart, it just stays on the splash screen. I then flashed TWRP, backed up, and this is where I'm stuck. From what I read, I'm supposed to install dumlock, but my phone gets stuck on splash screen.... so .... now what? Please help, either going back to OEM, or to fix and continue cyanogenmod 10 flash.
-Mike
You need to do some reading.
Literally 10 people post this same exact issue every day. Its probably why this hasn't been answered until now.
KNOW YOUR HBOOT LIMITATIONS
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
Rxpert said:
You need to do some reading.
Literally 10 people post this same exact issue every day. Its probably why this hasn't been answered until now.
KNOW YOUR HBOOT LIMITATIONS
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
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Rxpert me and you are def working overtime on these threads lol anyways back too problem...your issue you need to use fastboot to flash the boot.img then flash the rom since your on a hboot higher than 1.15 and your s-on
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wileout said:
Rxpert me and you are def working overtime on these threads lol anyways back too problem...your issue you need to use fastboot to flash the boot.img then flash the rom since your on a hboot higher than 1.15 and your s-on
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I dont know what it is... but nobody knows what they're doing.
Each time I come to XDA I facepalm and post that same link 4 or 5 times
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I dont know what it is... but nobody knows what they're doing.
Each time I come to XDA I facepalm and post that same link 4 or 5 times
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I hear ya man...i think imma do a write up somewhat dumbing down/explaining how to do it to try and eleviate issues
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wileout said:
I hear ya man...i think imma do a write up somewhat dumbing down/explaining how to do it to try and eleviate issues
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I did a write up that I've been posting over here.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
Notice we don't have any of these threads over on android forums . People actually know what they are doing.
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I did a write up that I've been posting over here.
http://androidforums.com/evo-4g-lte-all-things-root/606748-how-install-kernels-h-boot-1-15-a.html
Notice we don't have any of these threads over on android forums . People actually know what they are doing.
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Lmao....anyways can u do me a favor check mine out in the general section and give some constructive insight if i forgot something please i just did it quick cuz im on my phone plus life is still going on here lol
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I have started to try and help but I already feel defeated, and you guys do this on the daily....
Figured I was going to get **** for this, but thanks for the replies, guess we all cannot be uber android giniuses.. Google searches for some reason did not come up with results from xda. I did know I needed a workaround for boot 1.15 and 1.19, my probl em was with the ROM file itself... for some reason it would not install, even though it all seemed to be there. I re downloaded and tried 3 times, each gave me multiple errors accessing directories. The 4th worked and all is good.
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Figured I was going to get **** for this, but thanks for the replies, guess we all cannot be uber android giniuses.. Google searches for some reason did not come up with results from xda. I did know I needed a workaround for boot 1.15 and 1.19, my probl em was with the ROM file itself... for some reason it would not install, even though it all seemed to be there. I re downloaded and tried 3 times, each gave me multiple errors accessing directories. The 4th worked and all is good.
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the problem is that it doesnt take a genius, these threads are popping up like crazy even by people who have rooted other devices but the problem is that all these devices are different, even the same make/model will not produce the same results across multiple devices, people just need to take the time to sit down and learn the basics for android customization, one guy had s-off and decided to fastboot the kernel, somehow he managed to obliterate his recovery as well, another guy kept trying lazy panda to s-off his hboot 1.15, there are some kind and helpful people on xda but this is ridiculous, ive even taken to pm'ing users as a way to lessen the threads popping up, if you take the time to read the guides posted then take extra time to read about the failures, they help the most, it sounds horrible to me but reading about their failure and seeing possible solutions will help you avoid them
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Figured I was going to get **** for this, but thanks for the replies, guess we all cannot be uber android giniuses.. Google searches for some reason did not come up with results from xda. I did know I needed a workaround for boot 1.15 and 1.19, my probl em was with the ROM file itself... for some reason it would not install, even though it all seemed to be there. I re downloaded and tried 3 times, each gave me multiple errors accessing directories. The 4th worked and all is good.
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These off topic replies were not directed specifically at you. Its more frustration with those of us trying to help because we see so many of these threads everyday.
its simply mind boggling and frustrating to know that the majority of these problems are the exact same problem, you and wile do way way more damage control then i do and i just dont see how you guys keep on, i decided to start helping if i can and im already burned out, if i had a steady job id have probably given enough donations to warrant a tech support salary to you guys
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its simply mind boggling and frustrating to know that the majority of these problems are the exact same problem, you and wile do way way more damage control then i do and i just dont see how you guys keep on, i decided to start helping if i can and im already burned out, if i had a steady job id have probably given enough donations to warrant a tech support salary to you guys
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Like i said in i think my thread so many posts i dont know lol anyways i find it relaxing and helps me deal with myself and issues i have thank you iraq for that appreciate it so i dont mind but when users ask for help then get smart or act arrogant towards me for trying to troubleshoot for them i.e. dude in thw thread evo lte wont turn on rhats when i get pissed off and start contimplating whether i should help out or just say f*ck them but then i think of when i need or needed help and dirt off my shoulder and move to the next
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its simply mind boggling and frustrating to know that the majority of these problems are the exact same problem, you and wile do way way more damage control then i do and i just dont see how you guys keep on, i decided to start helping if i can and im already burned out, if i had a steady job id have probably given enough donations to warrant a tech support salary to you guys
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Lol maybe I do need to put a donate button up. :silly:
I'm just a poor PhD student after all
I should but i doubt it wiuld get used
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PhD?? You're better off then I am, I have an associates in electrical engineering and computer science from ITT. Nobody from my graduating class with the exception of 2 people were able to directly benefit and now we owe a lot of money to an institution that isn't even accredited by the state I live in
Good job guys, these people need help, thanks for what you are doing
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Is it not possible to get S-OFF on 1.15 or are we just waiting for the devs to do their magic?
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Is it not possible to get S-OFF on 1.15 or are we just waiting for the devs to do their magic?
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Not possible yet
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So I know XDA is full of answers to this one, but it seems everyone either has some snarky comment like, "they won't check' or whatever. There are also some ok answers and tuts but some of it's confusing and a lot of the threads go off topic. So i'd like to ask, how do i get my phone back to stock? i have to mail my device back in for a warranty exchange as the speakers and camera stopped working suddenly.
My device is stock rooted, odex rom w/ TWRP. unlocked bootloader. Super CID and S-off. Tampered message gone in boot loader. My laptop runs Windows 8, which I'm having an issue getting the HTC manager to stay open for some reason, even after an uninstall/ reinstall of the manager and drivers. The drivers themselves seemed to have installed fine as my device is recognized as "my HTC" though when in fastboot, my comp will tell me the device is unrecognized. Using the stock usb plug that came with my phone and I've plugged in to both usb 3.0 and 2.0 ports. And yes, I do have ADB in the root of my computer, though I'm wondering if i need a different type of ADB since this is the one i used with windows 7 a while back..or does it matter?
I'd like to get things back to stock as much as possible and would be very appreciative. Thanks!
You complain about the snarky comments people make yet you make a thread on a subject that has been beaten to death and has a buttload of snarky comments every time because of it. Just read and you'll find your answer, it's not too hard
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You complain about the snarky comments people make yet you make a thread on a subject that has been beaten to death and has a buttload of snarky comments every time because of it. Just read and you'll find your answer, it's not too hard
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Really? Really bro? This is the dang troubleshooting section of the frigging thread, meant for asking questions like this, and ya gotta be a ****? Go die in a fire. You just reaffirmed my reason for not coming to this forum much. Rude, nasty people like you. Thanks so much.
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Really? Really bro? This is the dang troubleshooting section of the frigging thread, meant for asking questions like this, and ya gotta be a ****? Go die in a fire. You just reaffirmed my reason for not coming to this forum much. Rude, nasty people like you. Thanks so much.
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Wow dude way to take what someone says on a forum way too far. I was in no way rude or nasty or a ****. You asked for that kind of response when you asked this question. Just because this is the troubleshooting section doesn't mean you shouldn't do your research before posting about a topic that's been beaten to death.
P. S. It's hypocritical to call someone rude and nasty and then tell them to die in a fire.
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You complain about the snarky comments people make yet you make a thread on a subject that has been beaten to death and has a buttload of snarky comments every time because of it. Just read and you'll find your answer, it's not too hard
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Wow dude way to take what someone says on a forum way too far. I was in no way rude or nasty or a ****. You asked for that kind of response when you asked this question. Just because this is the troubleshooting section doesn't mean you shouldn't do your research before posting about a topic that's been beaten to death.
P. S. It's hypocritical to call someone rude and nasty and then tell them to die in a fire.
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Maybe it would do you some justice to NOT go the route that I'd already forsaw. You were snarky and you response in no way solves a problem that I sat down for 3 hours trying to troubleshoot on an operating system I'm still learning since i just got comp last week. And maybe if you actually understood reading comprehension, you'd have seen that I'd obviously done my research, otherwise I wouldn't have made the conclusions I'd made in my OP. So yeah, I'm pretty pissed.
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Maybe it would do you some justice to NOT go the route that I'd already forsaw. You were snarky and you response in no way solves a problem that I sat down for 3 hours trying to troubleshoot on an operating system I'm still learning since i just got comp last week. And maybe if you actually understood reading comprehension, you'd have seen that I'd obviously done my research, otherwise I wouldn't have made the conclusions I'd made in my OP. So yeah, I'm pretty pissed.
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You could not possibly have researched for 3 hours and still had the need to post instead of doing what said research told you to do. It shouldn't have taken longer than 5 minutes to find your solution. Nothing I said was snarky you got the response you deserved and I don't care how pissed you are personal attacks are not allowed here.
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You could not possibly have researched for 3 hours and still had the need to post instead of doing what said research told you to do. It shouldn't have taken longer than 5 minutes to find your solution. Nothing I said was snarky you got the response you deserved and I don't care how pissed you are personal attacks are not allowed here.
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Ok, whatever you say. i didn't do the leg work and i couldn't fin the straight forward answers I needed. It' cool. Someone was actually decent enough to point me in the right direction and not be rude about it.
Oh and for the record, what I really needed to know was how to go back to S-on and change the CID back to stock. I still have my files for the latter and i have an idea of what to do, but I'd rather not go testing crap out on a phone i'm trying to return.
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Ok, whatever you say. i didn't do the leg work and i couldn't fin the straight forward answers I needed. It' cool. Someone was actually decent enough to point me in the right direction and not be rude about it.
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Listen, nothing I said was rude, I don't know why you got so worked up about nothing. All I said was that the topic had been beaten to death and that it isn't as hard as you say it is to figure it out
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Oh and for the record, what I really needed to know was how to go back to S-on and change the CID back to stock. I still have my files for the latter and i have an idea of what to do, but I'd rather not go testing crap out on a phone i'm trying to return.
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Sorry I wasn't around to help you out. Their are people here that actually help others. You seem to just have had bad timing
this should get you on the right track >> http://androidforums.com/internatio...-return-100-stock-revone-moonshine-s-off.html
you will need different files but this pretty much tells you step by step how it's done >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43226519&highlight=back+to+stock#post43226519
Also you posted in the AT&T forum this is the RUU for AT&T >> http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22964708692722204
instructions on how to use RUU >> http://androidforums.com/t-one-all-things-root/723061-t-ruu-1-26-502-12-a.html#post5864243
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Sorry I wasn't around to help you out. Their are people here that actually help others. You seem to just have had bad timing
this should get you on the right track >> http://androidforums.com/internatio...-return-100-stock-revone-moonshine-s-off.html
you will need different files but this pretty much tells you step by step how it's done >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43226519&highlight=back+to+stock#post43226519
Also you posted in the AT&T forum this is the RUU for AT&T >> http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=22964708692722204
instructions on how to use RUU >> http://androidforums.com/t-one-all-things-root/723061-t-ruu-1-26-502-12-a.html#post5864243
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Thank you very much for your decency. By this point I've gotten S-on and my factory CID back in place. Just needed to flash the RUU to lock and go back to stock. Just want to make sure, does the RUU also flash stock recovery or do I need to do that myself...I have file, but I'd just like to know ahead of time what I nee to do next if anything. Thanks a bunch.
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Thank you very much for your decency. By this point I've gotten S-on and my factory CID back in place. Just needed to flash the RUU to lock and go back to stock. Just want to make sure, does the RUU also flash stock recovery or do I need to do that myself...I have file, but I'd just like to know ahead of time what I nee to do next if anything. Thanks a bunch.
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the RUU will install the stock recovery ..just like new out of the box
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the RUU will install the stock recovery ..just like new out of the box
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Thanks for the quick reply. Um..I just ran into an issue and i hope it isn't a big one. First, the RUU won't run. And error pops up saying "make sure you have finished any previous setup and try again". I DLed this RUU straight from HTC.
Second, i'm in bootloader, tried to do a full reboot and instead it boots back into bootloader. Now on the top, the tampered had returned, as I used CMD to make it go away, and in pink is also a "security warning". The phone won't boot into anything else. The phone is locked. I got S-on with Revone, and i used CMD to write stock CID, which I rebooted each time to make sure nothing messed up.
Edit: Nevermind, after re downloading the RUU, I got it working properly and things smoothed out. Thank you again.
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Listen, nothing I said was rude, I don't know why you got so worked up about nothing. All I said was that the topic had been beaten to death and that it isn't as hard as you say it is to figure it out
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This guy nick has been posting same comment in every thread " do some research and you will find the answer , its not so hard "
Hey whats your problem dude.. If you dont want to help then just dont type anything , and do your work.. Simple..
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This guy nick has been posting same comment in every thread " do some research and you will find the answer , its not so hard "
Hey whats your problem dude.. If you dont want to help then just dont type anything , and do your work.. Simple..
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Don't exaggerate. I post that when it's necessary to post that. When help is deserved I more than gladly help but someone asking how to get back to stock does not necessitate a thread being made, hence my response.
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