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Ever since 2 hours after I got my phone, I've been using CM7.2. It's been pretty decent. But, are there any advantages of stock-based roms over Cyanogenmod?
Another one of these threads? Just try them out yourself and see
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quadomatic said:
Ever since 2 hours after I got my phone, I've been using CM7.2. It's been pretty decent. But, are there any advantages of stock-based roms over Cyanogenmod?
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You get some stock apps that you can't get in Cyanogen. And for me you get a silkier and smoother experience on stock based roms.
I like the idea of pure Android, but what completely killed it for me in CM7 was how double tap zoom works. I came from iPhone so I was used to a "zoom-fit" type action whenever I double tapped on a picture or paragraph while browsing. In CM7, it wouldn't do that. Ever. Text re-wrap seems to be the big thing in that ROM. I hate it. So I stay with stock based ROMs, which zoom-fit on double tap.
So what I'm saying is: its the little things that determine which one you pick. If you find something on one thats minorly annoying, in 3 months you'll be ready to rip your hair out.
I've grown to become a big cm7 fan past few months. I switch back and forth now. Only things I find flaky in CM7 include the headphone volume (not their fault blame samsung), and the bluetooth implementation seems a bit flaky.
Are there any stock roms that have the AOSP look? I really despise the look of TouchWiz.
Headphone volume control is broken aosp because it doesn't have samsung driver.
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I like the idea of pure Android, but what completely killed it for me in CM7 was how double tap zoom works. I came from iPhone so I was used to a "zoom-fit" type action whenever I double tapped on a picture or paragraph while browsing. In CM7, it wouldn't do that. Ever. Text re-wrap seems to be the big thing in that ROM. I hate it. So I stay with stock based ROMs, which zoom-fit on double tap.
So what I'm saying is: its the little things that determine which one you pick. If you find something on one thats minorly annoying, in 3 months you'll be ready to rip your hair out.
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With CM7 you can double tap to zoom just fine and it wraps the paragraph also. Plus if you want super large text you can use two fingers to make the words as big as you want, then double tap and it will keep the size ann rewrap it also. Just fyi
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I used cm7 for about 3 weeks, I liked it but did go back to a stock based rom. My only issues were missing the stock/Samsung clock and video playback had problems. Otherwise it was very nice. I'm running icscrewd now and love it.
Might have just been me, but I hated the lack of the "My Files" thing and the missing "Task Manger" thing after holding "Home" from the main screen.
As for these topics, I really think we should get ONE thread with a big poll where people can vote on which ROM they're using, and maybe one more thread with just a brief compare/contrast (or just allow people to post in the thread under the poll), but that's optional. It's not like we one big thread, so can't complain when more of these threads do emerge after the older ones get buried, locked, deleted, etc.
CM7 is really good and it gives you a lot of control over you device and themeing options, but I always go back to stock because of some stock apps and video playback which is broken in CM7 ( it will only play videos recorded using CM7)
Video playback wasn't a big problem with CM7 because 3rd party players could usually handle it.
A2DP audio (e.g. music over bluetooth) was the dealbreaker for me. It is hopelessly broken on CM7 (lack of driver support as usual).
Also, wonky headset volume was problematic. And for the few times that I want to do video out to impress friends/parents with my S2, CM7 also came up short.
On Unnamed 2.2.1 now, but battery drain is worse than CM7...
still looking for that perfect ROM...
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Video playback wasn't a big problem with CM7 because 3rd party players could usually handle it.
A2DP audio (e.g. music over bluetooth) was the dealbreaker for me. It is hopelessly broken on CM7 (lack of driver support as usual).
Also, wonky headset volume was problematic. And for the few times that I want to do video out to impress friends/parents with my S2, CM7 also came up short.
On Unnamed 2.2.1 now, but battery drain is worse than CM7...
still looking for that perfect ROM...
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Yeah, Dice Player can handle anything. I use it exclusively.
. . . If you like UnNamed, have you considered the first version (before the re-base)?
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Isn't HDMI out broken on CM7?
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Isn't HDMI out broken on CM7?
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Yes it is. I never used the hdmi out feature on our phones. The only thing that is keeping from running cm7 is the market issue. I've tried the market cwm fix but mine still just shuts off when i try to search.
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On Unnamed 2.2.1 now, but battery drain is worse than CM7...
still looking for that perfect ROM...
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You can try the European Hellraised and slimmed down ROMs that just came out. One of them is based on XWKL1 (not yet named) and one is based on XWLA4 (LilRom). They are both pretty good and have a very nice stock experience. You can theme them just like you would with an i9100 rom, so it can come out very nice. You can also run JKay.
There are going to be a lot of both since Entropys tutorial. The other is CleanRom if I remember correctly. And entropys KL1 is Sh1tRom, he mentioned work on an LA4 version too.
Have you tried the new roms yourself? If so can you comment? I'm really reluctant to leave UnNamed 1.3.2. Bad experiences with the other stuff out there. No offense to any devs, just UnNamed does it for me.
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I get a wild hair about every few weeks and flash CM7 twiceweekly nighly in the dev section. I always have the same issue with CM7 that I did when I had it on the Captivate. The bluetooth would randomly disconnect my bt headset. While in call, the bt audio was crackly and get worse until it disconnected. I like to listen to podcasts on my bt headset while I'm at work, so that always kills my enthusiasm for CM7. I love CM7 otherwise.
I really think it has something to do with my bt headset (Sammy's WEP870), but the problem doesn't exist in any Samsung based ROMs (even on the Captivate). It has to be some compatibility between the bt drivers and hardware. Maybe some of the bt profiles aren't handled perfectly.
If you need bluetooth dependability, I would test CM7 under normal bt use before investing much time in getting it cozy with all your apps and customizations. Other than that, its solid. Give the twiceweekly nightly a try.
video out
does not support video out using the usb port. And the Bluetooth is flaky doe snot work and crashes the audio file. Camera is also not right. auto WB is off by a bit compare to stock.
well, if you like the company's UI, then thats a plus to the stock-based ROM, and if you hate it, like motoblur, then cm7 and other aosp roms would work better for you
Is there any fully functional jelly bean ROMS for evo lte? if so, which ones do you guys recommend? this is my first time rooting ever, so, which backup software should i use? thanks!
There currently is no JB roms for us yet.
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kushdeck is currently working on one right now as we speak. he actually has a ROM available in IRC, but it isnt quite ready yet.
How do I get to it on IRC
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How do I get to it on IRC
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Click this link.
Type in a name for yourself, and fill out the CAPTCHA.
Look for "Decks busted CM10" in the topic near the top of the screen. There will be a link there that will lead you to the download.
There are at least 3 jelly bean roms in the works, but none for a daily driver yet.
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Bumping. Because! It has been almost two months since the last reply and I have heard there are some fairly stable Jelly Roms for the Evo LTE now. My question: What are they and how stable are they?
cm10 is very nice...multitask works perfectly...battery life is awesome
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Cm10, paranoid and aokp are the only jb roms that I know of at the moment. All are pretty stable and lots of people are using them as daily drivers. There are still a few issues like phone force closing on boot, flaky mms and weak proximity sensor (there's a separate flash that fixes) but on the whole they are fully functional. Some have reported cell and gps signal issues but everyone's setup is different...YMMV, I suggest giving them all a shot to see which one you like best. Cm10 seems to be the favorite right now, but paranoid has some pretty cool display tweaks. If you're coming from sense and you're s-on with hboot 1.15 or later, make sure to read up on flashing the kernel separately with fastboot.
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Cm10, paranoid and aokp are the only jb roms that I know of at the moment. All are pretty stable and lots of people are using them as daily drivers. There are still a few issues like phone force closing on boot, flaky mms and weak proximity sensor (there's a separate flash that fixes) but on the whole they are fully functional. Some have reported cell and gps signal issues but everyone's setup is different...YMMV, I suggest giving them all a shot to see which one you like best. Cm10 seems to be the favorite right now, but paranoid has some pretty cool display tweaks. If you're coming from sense and you're s-on with hboot 1.15 or later, make sure to read up on flashing the kernel separately with fastboot.
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Im a completely NOOB when it comes to rooting because I have never done it before, so everything you said might as well be chinese, lol, but no worries, once I pick a ROM, I ll do extensive research on everything you just told me.
My main concern though: My wife's Galaxy SIII sends over track and album art info to our Prius Nav display perfectly. Also, the "reading SMS outloud" feature only works with her phone, and not mine. Will flashing to one of these ROMs add this functionality to my phone? I have heard that the main issue is the version of AVRCP bluetooth profile that HTC uses in sense and also the bluetooth stacks library that Sense uses. I had heard that CM fixed this, but im not sure. And what about the SMS reading thing? what determines that?
Read my guide. It has a lot of info
If you're new to the scene, definitely read om4's guide...it has lots of good info about rooting, flashing, etc. all in one place. Much easier than hours of searching for each topic individually...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1869377
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also, read this, it has all the major roms and rooting, including the jb ones. great to compare them all too, plus every guide and walkthrough you could need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1645890
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Thanks guys! After doing some reading, I will post back on here with more questions.
I have been running paranoid for a while now and have tried going back to sense roms, but love the cm10 jb experience too much to ever go back to sense again. I highly recommend paranoid!
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Ok guys so I have been reading on the thread you guys recommended, and i still havent pulled the trigger on rooting. I do have a few questions:
-One of the main things I noticed is, if I get CM10, I lose the awesome camera the EVO has. Im assuming if I get a rooted sense based ROM, I would still keep my awesome camera?
-One of the main reasons I am rooting is because I have heard CM10 has a better bluetooth stack built in, and as such it should work much better with my car, sending over track and album artist, as well as the ablity to browse music files via bluetooth through my nav screen. Or at the very least, I want to be able to get back the USB plug in functionality I used to have on the EVO 3D. When i plug in my Evo LTE in my car's USB, nothing happens. So, is there a ROM that allows me to keep the sense camera but also has the bluetooth/USB host capabilities I am looking for?
-When I root, does everything get wiped out and I have to reinstall all my apps, contacts, etc?
I'm on CM10 for the past month and am really liking it. Since I was also disappointed by the camera app I went ahead and tried the Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and it works wonderfully. It's not 100% as awesome as HTCs, but it's enough for me. Look for the JB 4.2 apps - it's floating around somewhere.
As for BT - I don't think CM10 has APT-X, so audio quality would be lower on compatible devices. I think I notice a difference on my BT stereo headset, but it may be my imagination. Again - small price to pay for using CM10.
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I'm on CM10 for the past month and am really liking it. Since I was also disappointed by the camera app I went ahead and tried the Jelly Bean 4.2 camera, and it works wonderfully. It's not 100% as awesome as HTCs, but it's enough for me. Look for the JB 4.2 apps - it's floating around somewhere.
As for BT - I don't think CM10 has APT-X, so audio quality would be lower on compatible devices. I think I notice a difference on my BT stereo headset, but it may be my imagination. Again - small price to pay for using CM10.
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thanks for the reply, but I am not as concerned with audio quality as I am with my track/artist/playlist information showing up on my car's LCD Nav thing. Any ideas on what I can do to get that to happen? Does CM10 have this? And what is APT-X? What I was talking about is AVRCP. Stock sense does not have a high enough level (version) of AVRCP to do what I want. Somewhere on another thread I was told that CM does have this, but I have since been unable to confirm it.
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thanks for the reply, but I am not as concerned with audio quality as I am with my track/artist/playlist information showing up on my car's LCD Nav thing. Any ideas on what I can do to get that to happen? Does CM10 have this? And what is APT-X? What I was talking about is AVRCP. Stock sense does not have a high enough level (version) of AVRCP to do what I want. Somewhere on another thread I was told that CM does have this, but I have since been unable to confirm it.
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Your probably better off waiting for the official jelly bean update from HTC which *should* be in the next month or so. It might be included in that. As far as cm10 goes, you have nothing to lose by trying it to see... Just back everything up before you root and then try it to find out.
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Can I use this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26521683 to root and then flash cm10?
How stable is it currently overall? I sometimes use Google+ hangouts which requires streaming video. Is this still broken? How is 4g/3g stability?
Video streaming is still broken, and bluetooth calling still broken. Otherwise, it's solid as it can be for me. Been running it exclusively for over a week and have no plans on going back.
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Video streaming is still broken, and bluetooth calling still broken. Otherwise, it's solid as it can be for me. Been running it exclusively for over a week and have no plans on going back.
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It's hard to go back to sense after you've run CM9. It's smooth, fast, and elegant.
freezing for me on all aosp based builds. I think it's adreno driver related to whatever hardware revision I have
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How stable is it currently overall? I sometimes use Google+ hangouts which requires streaming video. Is this still broken? How is 4g/3g stability?
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To be honest, it's not really something that you will be able to know without flashing CM9 on your own device. See if it works for you. We have some very talented devs that take a lot of time to make these things. The least you can do is give it a shot, and if it's not for you, then it's really easy to nandroid back to where you are.
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To be honest, it's not really something that you will be able to know without flashing CM9 on your own device. See if it works for you. We have some very talented devs that take a lot of time to make these things. The least you can do is give it a shot, and if it's not for you, then it's really easy to nandroid back to where you are.
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Oh I know. I'm going to donate as soon as I officially get hired at my new job and it becomes something usable for me (will have to try to fix streaming video myself or wait on someone to look at it)
Hi there, it's me again!
After being away for quite some time due to a lot of issues with my netbook, and being busy with school, I recently checked the progress on the Flyer. As expected, Dexter did an excellent job already on Jelly Bean.
I tried the ROM, and I gotta say I'm quite satisfied with it. FWIW, I am thinking about getting the 3.0 kernel from the DHD to run on the Flyer. But, I have another project I'm thinking about which sounds more interesting.
So, is anyone interested in Open WebOS on the HTC Flyer? I am considering to give it a try this week, but only if there is some potential interest from the community. It would pretty much be an effort where I try to combine various challenges: getting WebOS to boot, and getting the Raspberry Pi to compile Android kernels, since my netbook does a horrible job at this.
Please report if it sounds interesting for you, and if I get positive answers, I'll do some research on the structure of OWOS.
Although WebOS seems nice I'd rather see you beat the crap out of JB and try to get it fully working until you say "I can't take this any further".
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Although WebOS seems nice I'd rather see you beat the crap out of JB and try to get it fully working until you say "I can't take this any further".
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I'm not sure, I actually think JB has 1 major dev working on it. Sometimes it's better to have multiple, good, mostly stable options too chose from than 1 completely perfect one.
That aside, I don't use bluetooth headset so some people who do really want the devs to pool their work into that.
I'm all for web os though. And dual boot (don't push yourself ) would be awesome.
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I'm not sure, I actually think JB has 1 major dev working on it. Sometimes it's better to have multiple, good, mostly stable options too chose from than 1 completely perfect one.
That aside, I don't use bluetooth headset so some people who do really want the devs to pool their work into that.
I'm all for web os though. And dual boot (don't push yourself ) would be awesome.
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
Mine VM with Ubunto is stil there for u if u decide to give Flyer some more of your time. Am I interested? I am interested in Flyer with as much hardware working posible; working BT for voice calls, music and movei playback. As long as those work well i dont care even if it is Win 3.11EE if it runs nice and smooth. However Geting camera and hw movie playback suport on JB would be very nice and would get the ROM to TOP level. U cracked those nuts on ICS; any way u give it a try on JB?
Welcome Back CHAOS I agree with Antis (even though I don't really Know the advantage of WebOs) i was hoping that You could do something like get the front camera working for Skype
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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No HW playback support, no cammera and videorecorde, some flickering i belive,... rest is nearlly all there! So close to top BUT BT is FIXED (no report if for calls as well but rest been tested and reported 100% working BT functionalities)
I am not sure dual boot would be neat but i know thats asking alot. but like every one else don't matter to me if it JB OR ICS as long as we can get a nice and smooth working rom that has BT good HW for movies ect and cameras working i will be as happy as a puppy with to peckers ....
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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Hardware Acceleration for video playback. WebOS would be interesting.
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Hi there, it's me again!
After being away for quite some time due to a lot of issues with my netbook, and being busy with school, I recently checked the progress on the Flyer. As expected, Dexter did an excellent job already on Jelly Bean.
I tried the ROM, and I gotta say I'm quite satisfied with it. FWIW, I am thinking about getting the 3.0 kernel from the DHD to run on the Flyer. But, I have another project I'm thinking about which sounds more interesting.
So, is anyone interested in Open WebOS on the HTC Flyer? I am considering to give it a try this week, but only if there is some potential interest from the community. It would pretty much be an effort where I try to combine various challenges: getting WebOS to boot, and getting the Raspberry Pi to compile Android kernels, since my netbook does a horrible job at this.
Please report if it sounds interesting for you, and if I get positive answers, I'll do some research on the structure of OWOS.
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Wow..it would definitely be very interesting! WebOS still will be a cool OS to try out.
By the way, thanks for coming back & welcome!
WebOS would be so slick.
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I'm def interested!
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@Chaos-X u been asked for Kernel source on :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1724246&page=54
i belive to help with video decoding fix wich is missing in latest JB... U think u can help with this?
I personally would prefer a fully working JB ROM (we're sooooo close now), but WebOS would be a cool OS to fiddle with.
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I am using the latest JB ROM atm., and I'm wondering (since I haven't followed the development the last 2 months): what is really broken atm? Aside from bluetooth.
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-Camera (front\back)
-Cant change CPU clock
-Some bugs with graphics
-External SD on AOKP is bad
-Boot animation
If you help him do it, it will be best ROM. Please.
yes, or maybe no...
while I'm a huge fan of webOS and would love to see it on the flyer I think your time may be better utilized by teaming with Dexter to finish ironing out the wrinkles in his JB build first, then perhaps a dual-boot option?
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Hardware Acceleration for video playback. WebOS would be interesting.
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+1
I loved web os on my palm pre, just didn't like the hardware. I would love to have it on my view. Especially if we could dual boot it.
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I loved web os on my palm pre, just didn't like the hardware. I would love to have it on my view. Especially if we could dual boot it.
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Never seen Palm Pre in russia. Is it good device?
kayoma said:
Never seen Palm Pre in russia. Is it good device?
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Slide out keyboard had very small keys and the slider mechanism was very poor. Screen was also very small compared to today's phones. The only nice thing was wireless charging. That was awesome.
WebOS ran very well on it though.
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as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
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as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
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If you don't want to go backwards then I'm afraid to say that you are stuck. There is a definite drawback to running the cutting edge with an aging phone. One of the most glaring is the lack of a flawlessly working video camera. Neo just updated his Rage ROM (which is ICS, of course), and that update may bring some of the sweetness of JB to ICS (I haven't run it yet so I can't confirm yet). However, Chad had just about everything but bluetooth calling nailed with ICS AOSP, so that would be your best bet if you want to remain on AOSP. Sense will give you the absolute best video recording and playback; hands down. It's a trade-off, and really hard to make the decision sometimes!
Are there bad camera issues with any of the sense 4+ Roms? Just really over stock in general. I don't use Bluetooth and tether isn't too important to me. Just wanna stay away from stock and still have a working camera/camcorder
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Are there bad camera issues with any of the sense 4+ Roms? Just really over stock in general. I don't use Bluetooth and tether isn't too important to me. Just wanna stay away from stock and still have a working camera/camcorder
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No, Sense 4+ cameras are just as good as the 3.6 camera. HTC definitely got their camera app right. AOSP ROMs don't have quite the same quality, but they will suffice if you don't want to compromise the slickness of your phone.
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as the title says, looking for suggestions on a rom with a good working video camera. i've run tron and infection from neo and absolutely adore them. 4.2 is better than .1 but still not perfect, just kinda playing the field and looking for suggestions on things from people who have had good experiences with any particular rom. i've been running jellybean, so i'm a bit spoiled and don't really wanna go backwards. thanks all!
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I was on Infection and the "Dr. Who". They are really cool, but felt like a wanted something a little more stable....Apparently so did Neo, while the bugs are being worked out so he released a new version of RAGE AOSP, optimized with his recent work....Its ICS, but it barely misses a beat......yes...its not quite as buttery, but its as close as I've seen on ICS and soooo stable!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1899085
From what I have seen even with the thunderbolt. If you want great pictures and videos then you have to run a sense ROM. As good as aosp is over all the camera section just sucks in quality of photo. To bad you can't incorporate the sense camera part in to aosp. Only thing I can say is have a backup of both but thats just not practical. I only run sense ROMs as the battery life is much better than it was on my bolt running aosp GB and ICS. I haven't been brave enough to do s off yet. Good luck on finding your holy grail.
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thanks everyone, it's much appreciated. if i do want to go back to ICS rage or even a sense rom, will i have to do anything special as far as flashing the rom goes? i'm s-on still so i'm familiar with flashing the rom/kernal...anything extra needed to get on a sense 4+ rom or go back to Rage?
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thanks everyone, it's much appreciated. if i do want to go back to ICS rage or even a sense rom, will i have to do anything special as far as flashing the rom goes? i'm s-on still so i'm familiar with flashing the rom/kernal...anything extra needed to get on a sense 4+ rom or go back to Rage?
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I never had to do anything special but I never flashed an aosp ROM on my rezound. So just as long as you flash what you need to in the boot loader you should be good to go.
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