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I'm currently rooted and I'm running team viper 1.03. However, I updated previously to the leaked ICS 5-7 firmware which came with some pretty crappy radios for me. I use to get much higher 4g speeds, and I'd like to return to the gingerbread ones. I saw this thread and I was wondering if it was safe to flash these firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
There's no mention about s-on anywhere so I'm not sure.
Sorry, you need to be s-off to flash these
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yeah, you're going to want to use the jbear S-OFFmethod at http://unlimited.io to S-OFF your phone first
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I'm currently rooted and I'm running team viper 1.03. However, I updated previously to the leaked ICS 5-7 firmware which came with some pretty crappy radios for me. I use to get much higher 4g speeds, and I'd like to return to the gingerbread ones. I saw this thread and I was wondering if it was safe to flash these firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614366
There's no mention about s-on anywhere so I'm not sure.
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The first line on that thread. - S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
S-OFF was very easy to do and really is worth the few minutes that it takes. Just make sure you download the correct version for your firmware.
mjones73 said:
The first line on that thread. - S-OFF DEVICES ONLY
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I added that afterwards so don't blame him
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Damnit man! Just kidding.
OP, sorry about that
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I have Hboot 1.15, Fresh EVO OS. And used the Regaw Autoroot following the OTA Update. I heard you can do this using fastboot or HTCdev, but I'm not sure how to do this... And could not find any answers (My concern is that the new FRESH updates use the new radios, and I updated to it, but can't flash the new radios)
If this has already been answered I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
Thank you for the help!
Dude there's threads all over the forum about this issue. Just spend 2minutes looking and you'll be all set
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You can't update radios if you are s-on hboot 1.15. Your only option to update the radios is to relock and take the ota or install the new ruu. Then unlock again, install twrp, and then install your favorite rom. As many will state, never take the ota because you may loose ability to get s-off in the future. This may be true, but there is no s-off solution for your hboot anyway so you might as well bite the bullet now and live in the present instead of waiting for something that may never happen in the future.
Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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eddy0090 said:
To address ur main concern, there is no need to update your radios. If you want to run a rom that is based off the latest update all u need to do is make sure your kernel matches the kernel in the rom. You can update your kernel with Flash img GUI, found in the app store. Just download the rom u want open flash img GUI select the rom and choose to flash kernel img. Once complete, wipe and flash rom. Njoy!
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I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Rxpert said:
I would HIGHLY suggest against flash gui if you haven't properly learned to fast boot flash it
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Then how do i proceed to relock my bootloader if I am 1.5 so i can receive the OTA?
Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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Interesting. All right Thanks for your help. And as for there being threads "all over" I was getting conflicting reports, since I saw on one page where it was possible to flash using HTCdev with S-on, but there was no link or instructions given.
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Yup. Sorry about my response. I reread it and it does sound a harsh to me now. Anyways you got the info you need so good luck with your phone and sorry again
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Fastboot OEM lock
This stuff is in my guide, I wish more people would actually read it lol
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LOL - I've never seen you guide before, I will definetly open it print it/ and read it. It is appreciated.:highfive::good:
I'd also suggest against taking the ota, but that's just me.
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S-on hboot 1.12
Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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Ok, so I'm rooted, s-on with hboot 1.12. I was able to do the firmware update and update the radios. I've read like crazy and I'm not seeing anywhere I can update the PRI without s-off. Is this correct? One thread said I can flash anything since I'm hboot 1.12 so I'm confused.
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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If you're on hboot 1.12, I suggest using lazypanda to get s-off right away before doing anything else.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
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I'm a little bit hesitant to do that since I've read it can go crazy wrong and I'm not as savvy with the phones as the folks on the forums. Do I have to though in order to update my PRI?
I'm not sure, I've been s-off since I got the phone.
"We're coming from a pure power source"
I am S-ON HBoot 1.15. Is it possible to flash HTC Stock recovery, go to stock rooted rom, use OTA root Keeper and take the new OTA?
You don't need OTA root keeper because your going to have to do HTC dev to unlock the device again.
With that being said I wouldnt recommend taking the OTA or running the ruu to update because you'll be on the new hboot
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Not to mention the new base for stock has introduced a few of its own issues that the new firmware/hboot can not fix. Several people have attempted to downgrade thinking its the best alternative and brick their phones in doing so. The new firmware doesn't change much anyway
I know there is a way to upgrade the firmware for s on but is there a way without updating the hboot?
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Nope, the partition is locked and signed, 1.12 did have the ability though
RUU while ulocked bootloader
chriswbush said:
I know there is a way to upgrade the firmware for s on but is there a way without updating the hboot?
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I ran the latest RUU with bootloader unlocked, s-on, rooted and I got everything except the latest radio and hboot. You have to relock the bootloader, then run RUU to get a complete upgrade.
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I ran the latest RUU with bootloader unlocked, s-on, rooted and I got everything except the latest radio and hboot. You have to relock the bootloader, then run RUU to get a complete upgrade.
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I was looking at that but I don't want the latest hboot and are you HTC dev unlocked with 1.15 hboot?
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HTC dev unlocked
chriswbush said:
I was looking at that but I don't want the latest hboot and are you HTC dev unlocked with 1.15 hboot?
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Yes, I used ZedoMax unlock tutorial to unlock the first time. Why do you not wish to have the latest hboot?
I was hboot 1.15 when I ran the latest RUU unlocked and updated on the firmware. I decided that having the latest radio was important and you can not get one without the other right now from what I could find. So, I now have the latest radio and hboot, I unlocked the bootloader once again and reflashed my custom ROM.
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Yes, I used ZedoMax unlock tutorial to unlock the first time. Why do you not wish to have the latest hboot?
I was hboot 1.15 when I ran the latest RUU unlocked and updated on the firmware. I decided that having the latest radio was important and you can not get one without the other right now from what I could find. So, I now have the latest radio and hboot, I unlocked the bootloader once again and reflashed my custom ROM.
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Well I was just asking just in case they do manage to find a way to get s off on the 1.15 hboot and I would like to get it but it seems like its been forever and I would rather get my texts and calls etc so can you link that tutorial?
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Tutorials for unlock, RUU, relock
chriswbush said:
Well I was just asking just in case they do manage to find a way to get s off on the 1.15 hboot and I would like to get it but it seems like its been forever and I would rather get my texts and calls etc so can you link that tutorial?
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Sure, here ya go.
Install SDK tools first - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaNM-lt_aHw&feature=fvwrel
Relock bootloader - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yS7yy4XVA4&list=SP53B1EB8DBE7A5B59&index=1&feature=plpp_video
Update with latest RUU - http://stockroms.net/file/HTCEvo4GLTE/RUU
Hope this helps...I love mine after the latest hboot and radio together. It now has none of those pesky issues I was fighting.
P.S. after you relock, the phone will NOT reboot. Just keep it on "bootloader usb" and then run the RUU from your computer. Then unlock again. It will be all updated and run great.
I would suggest waiting as well. Chances are your missed calls and texts aren't going to be fixed by a new radio
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I think the real chances are that s-off will be achieved on hboot 1.19 first, anyway. I haven't found one credible indication of anyone working on either though...
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I think the real chances are that s-off will be achieved on hboot 1.19 first, anyway. I haven't found one credible indication of anyone working on either though...
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Its being worked on. Nobody is going to announce "oh hay guize I'm working on getting S-OFF". You'll know who is is when they find S-OFF and announce it.
What makes you think 1.19 will be found first? That doesn't really make sense.
I just think it makes more sense to have the latest radio. It was updated by HTC for a reason and everyone that wants it, not being s-off already, has to do what I did. Consequently, since the update I have LTE nearly everywhere I go in NW Houston, prior to the update was spotty connectivity at best.
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I just think it makes more sense to have the latest radio. It was updated by HTC for a reason and everyone that wants it, not being s-off already, has to do what I did. Consequently, since the update I have LTE nearly everywhere I go in NW Houston, prior to the update was spotty connectivity at best.
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Most people don't have LTE coverage yet, so for most the radio isn't worth hboot 1.19
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Unless of course, you're having issues running a custom rom on the latest firmware and older hboot. Then, one may wish to look at the options even if they are the "most" as you say or the least as I clearly represent in your estimation.
It appears that HBOOT 1.15 will not get s-off any time soon...Is it O.K. to upgrade to HBOOT 1.19 and wait then for s-off capabilities, or is 1.19 taboo also.
I am rooted, can I stall HBOOT 1.19 with abd, or would I have to root the phone again, and install a recovery...
There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue. The second is basically the same but involving the aroma installer, flashes fine but sometimes kernel will not flash and you boot to bootloader. This does not mean you need to update only that the kernel did not like the new base, fastboot kernel and you'll be fine. Some people still have WiFi issues and others have LTE issues, both should have been addressed in the last 2 updates and people with the latest firmware are still having problems. To me this does not warrant relocking upgrading and going through the unlock again.
A lot of people including myself don't consider 1.19 an upgrade and like om said you don't nerf to update
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Always best waiting
In my experiences, it is almost ALWAYS best to wait. If for some reason 1.19 gets s-off before 1.15 then u can update. But for now, just wait. I got lucky and I'm 1.12 s-off either way warranty is gone so always get s-off whenever possible.
I keep seeing threads about s-off. I'll like people to be more specific as to what they're trying to achieve that they can't while being s-on?
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Just the ability to directly flash software to partitions normally inaccessible, Firmware basically. Those of us s-on would have to flash back to stock, lock hboot, and accept an ota or relock and run the ruu
Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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Also, don't know the details of any of it, but in the s-off bounty thread guy is donating a 1.15 hboot. U can flip a coin better than I can say what they will do with it then. Either update it to 1.19 or try and find the exploit on 1.15.
Personally, if I was a badass at finding exploits in HTC coding then I'd crack both like yesterday. But if I was that badass I'd have better stuff to do as well... Hoping for 1.19 s-off just for future development.
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there is a guy in the s-off thread saying he will give up his phone and i saw fuses sent him a PM reply about it hang in there guys
om4 said:
There are 2 ways, ruu or revert to stock for ota. You must relock bootloader before ruu or ota. For the ota you need stock recovery as well. There's a few misconceptions floating around. First is that you need to update to run the latest base, this is simply not true, I'm running mikeys latest without issue.
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Quick question: Are you saying that if I wanted to run Mean ROM that I do not need to be in the latest OTA? I'm confused because I was under the understanding that we needed to be on 2.13. Please clarify for me.
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No you don't, I ran meanrom a few days ago and today I switched to viper 2.02. Meanroms kernel installer worked fine, viper required fastboot but both run fine
Thanks for the quick response. Wow, I feel like a dumb *ss now. I've been holding out trying any new roms because I didn't want to come off of hboot 1.15.
Which rom do you like better so far between viper and mikey's?
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The level of customization on viper is crazy, meanrom runs great with evilz kernel and is closer to stock. I'm still sifting through the different mods for viper and I've yet to check out any themes but so far but I'm still digging through it all
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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Sorry dude, pretty much screwed until they find a work around for the .11 update. I made the mistake of accidentally S-On and forgetting to lock instead of relocking my bootloader (wanted to return for warranty purposes). After that I've tried pretty much everything from downgrading to the stock ROM using customs ROMS trying to edit RUU's to work with my phone (Do not try this, easiest way to brick your very expensive phone) Nothing works as of now, Htc and t-mobile screwed us by not giving us the Stock RUU they knew what they were doing. But yes you have to wait.
*NOTE* On the otherhand i did learn that i didn't need to lock my bootloader to return it for warranty purposes the guy at the t-mobile store replaced it right there for me no questions asked. But the replacement i got came with the updated .11 ROM which means no S-Off for me still.
Damn. That's what I was afraid of. I just kept reading that as long as you had 1.44 h-boot it was still possible, but that doesn't appear to be the case. Well thanks anyway for responding.
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Wait I thought you could s-off with that hboot i thought 5xxx was unable to s-off
You can s-off hboot 1.44 as long as you haven't taken the latest tmobile ota or used the tmobile ruu, they patched whatever it was that allowed us to s-off in the latest version
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Can we downgrade?
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
Tylormde said:
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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Take a look at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582&page=469
Lots of info there. Some of it conflicting but in a nutshell, no if you've taken the .11 update from T-Mobile.
i would wait till revone or moonshine get a fix on it.
Or go the HTC dev way
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Tylormde said:
If we go back to .8, can we S-OFF? I want to take this thing to GPE, but need S-OFF.
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I have tried this and was unsuccessful. Luckily I was able to run the RUU and it was fine again but it won't achieve S-OFF
You can downgrade from .11 to .8 using a custom ruu. Google " downgrade from .11 to .8 rootzwiki" and you'll find it.
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Ok guys not to sound stupid but I've rooted plenty of phones and have had pretty much every top tier phone. I've rooted all my android phones. I just don't understand the s-off portion of it all. I have s-off and currently rooted. What advantage do I have over someone that doesn't have s-off? I got my one already rooted so I never went through the process. I guess that's why I'm confused. I'm used to Samsung phones.
When the update comes next week should i just wait for a rooted version of it? I'm assuming so.
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S-OFF basically allows you to do 2 main things you couldn't otherwise pertaining to Roms and such:
1- flash unsigned RUUs. You can flash custom firmware that don't belong to your device. IE: you can flash the newest 4.3 firmware prior to 4.3 releasing for the T-Mobile One.
2: get yourself out of a jam. Here's a great example. Let's say you flashed the stock GPE recovery and ROM. Your S-ON. You wanted the full GPE experience. Your phone took the newest update. It will flash 1.54 Hboot and update the boot loader to the black GPE version although you are S-ON and not running the GPE device. Without S-ON your SOL if you needed to go back to stock for whatever reason because the HBoot can't be rolled back on S-ON.
Its a good protection to have in your back pocket IMO
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So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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Jjday7 said:
So that would explain how I am able to flash Roms from the international version. Well I guess I better be careful with any RUUs that are to come. I need to figure out how I'm going to update when the tmobile One's 4.3 update comes this week.
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So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
zaos said:
So once S-OFF is achieved, can flashing any RUU set it back to S-ON? If so, how can that be avoided?
I have a tmobile phone flashed with launch WWE firmware; don't care about WiFi calling or any carrier bloat, but did want the 1700 HSPA+. I'm thinking of clean flashing to latest Tmobile RUU to get the supposed LTE reception improvements, then going from there to back to launch WWE and to latest WWE (to try to retain settings).
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No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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grim489 said:
No you would have to purposely set it back to s-on, an RUU won't do it. Would you be doing the tmobile Thu then installing WWE Rom ? Or flashing WWE RUU? Cause the ruu would just reset everything XP
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I'm thinking:
Full backup with twrp
Flash ruu
Restore backup with twrp
Apply WWE update
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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grim489 said:
Oh yeah then that should work just wanted to make sure :thumbup:
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Thanks. It does seem a bit like voodoo magic but I want to avoid any possible issues that people in the radio only thread have reported.
use rumrunner to achirve s-off. thats the only way then use revone to reset tamper
toaks said:
I am using a T-mobile HTC One. It was previously rooted. I restored to stock by using the RUU from HTC. I unlocked the bootloader so I currently have unlocked S-on. My HBOOT Ver is: 1.44.0000. Radio Version is 4A.17.3250.20. Am I screwed or can I still get S-OFF? I have tried Revone but it's not working. Any Ideas?
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use rumrunner to achieve s-off then use revone to reset tampered flag on your bootloader.