I have written a lengthy guide (i use that loosely) called Don't Panic for people to read before attempting to unlock, root, or flash their phone. I meant for it to be in general but in my confusion it was mistakenly posted in Q&A. Please take the time to read it before, during, or after any of these procedures, its a lot to read but it is very valuable information
Thanks! I'm sure it will be very helpfull..
Great guide. I wish that people had to pass a test with questions based off of it to be able to post in the development sections.
Updated with the most common troubleshooting scenarios new users are likely to encounter
Updated with more common and not so common issues
good stuff, I could have used this last week when I was sweating through rooting my 1 day old evo lte :good: thx!
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Added an overview pertaining HTC Dev Unlock procedure
Thanks for the Don't Panic thread. Just what the doctor ordered!!!
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Added yet even more information. CPU Governors and I/O Schedulers
Another rare(read odd) and very specific troubleshooting scenario added
Updated once more lol
Yep its another update
Wish HTC would take a note out of your book with the updates.
With so many different versions of hboot and S-ON/s-off, it needs clarification. Previous phones used to be more localized and generalized as well. This one is spread out and easy to mess up.
Ask me about my ability to annoy complete strangers!
They started off so strong with their support of android....what happened?
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Guide is now a sticky
om4 said:
I have written a lengthy guide (i use that loosely) called Don't Panic for people to read before attempting to unlock, root, or flash their phone. I meant for it to be in general but in my confusion it was mistakenly posted in Q&A. Please take the time to read it before, during, or after any of these procedures, its a lot to read but it is very valuable information
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You should have a link to your work in the OP to make it easier to find
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Its in my sig lol
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Its in my sig lol
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Can't see sigs in tapatalk!
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Done.
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I have a AT&T Samsung Galaxy S2 I777 with a stock kernel version of 2.6.35.7 and that's exactly how its listed on my phone. I'm trying to root my phone and cannot for the life of me find the unsecure kernel. Could someone please assist me in finding the proper kernel for rooting my phone? Thank you for looking...
Please, please read the stickies in all the sgs2 forums before posting.
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is there a particular sticky i should read or should i read all one million of them?
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is there a particular sticky i should read or should i read all one million of them?
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There is not a million stickies in the i777 section. If you can't read the few that there are then you should stay stock or get an iPhone.
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Sorry guys I'm just not very good at looking for something I dont quite understand. Ive googled numerous times and all I get are results with 2.6.35.7 followed by a million numbers and symbols after the kernel number and mine doesn't have that. It literally just says "2.6.35.7" in my phone and thats where im getting lost. I cant find an unsecure kernel code for my particular kernel.
How about the stickies in the general section? Geez this is really starting to piss me off as it wasn't that bad before people have to learn to read before tbey start screwing with their phone, that's what i did with this phone before i even got it so i knew exactly what to do when i got the phone. No one wants to spoon feed people who don't even attempt to read the stickies. There are atleast 2 stickies that tell you how to root your phone that i found within seconds. Case in point, READ AND SEARCH BEFORE POSTING
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Sorry guys I'm just not very good at looking for something I dont quite understand. Ive googled numerous times and all I get are results with 2.6.35.7 followed by a million numbers and symbols after the kernel number and mine doesn't have that. It literally just says "2.6.35.7" in my phone and thats where im getting lost. I cant find an unsecure kernel code for my particular kernel.
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Your kernel version has F all to do with reading the damn stickies within the i777 forum. Jesus.
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Forget abouty flashing your phone for now. Just leave it stock. After all, the I777 is an awsome phone running stock right out of the box.
Now start reading. Follow the forums. Study all the stickies like others have suggested. When you fully understand how things fit together, what things are called, etc. then you can safely flash your phone to one of the great firmwares offered here.
I felt bad...no, not really...but here...took a whole 5 seconds to find this.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1285894
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Your kernel version has F all to do with reading the damn stickies within the i777 forum. Jesus.
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I don't know why but this one pissed me off more than the other threads, it's like looking at the stickies are too difficult or something
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n8t1308 said:
is there a particular sticky i should read or should i read all one million of them?
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There is a total of 17 stickies in all the sgs2 forums combined. So please just take the time to at least read the ones that pertain to your problem. I.E. rooting.
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Especially when his question is answered in the first post of one of them which is fairly prominently labeled.
However, I agree, if you couldn't even find the clearly labeled sticky on rooting, or creepy's general flashing guide, you need to leave your phone stock. You WILL screw up your phone in a way that is difficult to recover if you can't even follow his guide, and I'd say you have a very good chance of being one of the few people who manages to hardbrick an I777.
Creepyncrawly is correct. I was very overwhelmed when I first found this forum. While there are only a few stickies many are very deep in the number of posts to read through. Patience is a virtue here for sure. It takes a lot of time to read through a few stickies that are 400 - 1000 posts deep but it's worth it as you can skim a large number of them for important keywords and highlights.
I was converted to 2.3.6 (stock) and needed a fix for the battery issue. But as recommended I read every sticky (many times over) until I started getting a better grasp of the rooting concept. I was an iPhone user that jailbroke it many times over and felt that process seemed so much easier. After rooting my phone a couple times now and using a couple different kernels and flashing ICScrewD a couple times I'm comfortable with saying it's just as easy.
I just redid my phone yesterday morning (1) because I felt it wasn't running optimally and (2) because I wanted to redo the process for the sake of learning. In no time flat I was back up and customizing my screens again with a fresh ICScrewD install.
CnC and Entropy among many others have done great work here and are very informative. I greatly appreciate the work they've put in here and a few other forum sites.
I was just catching up on the thread in the general section that says root has been achieved, and then the last post says that you can find the info in the development section? I don't see a development section for our phone yet, are they referring to the sprint models development thread? I'm apparently missing something here... When I first bookmarked our forum there was a development section, but I don't see it there anymore?
I think you need at least 10 quality posts to view the development thread. I've lurked here for a few years with not much to add since I'm no dev. It's time for me to give back where I can.
I believe they made all sections (General, themes, q&a and development) and opened them up together. After a few post in the General you should see it because it's definitely there
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U r not alone...im not able to see it either, and i need it so i can see the how to guide for rooting...i hope its not too hard because ive never done it on any of my phones before
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This is actually just a reference to a sprint root guide. You can thank cypher_zero for putting that together.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1726088
I am just confirming that this method works if you need clockwork mod and or root access.
It is working like a dream on my T999.
For those of you looking for a Video guide qbking77 put this video together for a quick guide. Be sure to thank him for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Soapch0c5U
This is the first post on the root thread
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Glad I have been around for years then :-D, this was news to me.
yes, looks like the Dev forum is disabled for us rookies
Yeah, same here for me. I've been a lurker for years and now I "have to" be more involved. I guess it's not so bad.
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Great... Now I have to go make 10 useless posts.
Worst Idea ever...
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Great... Now I have to go make 10 useless posts.
Worst Idea ever...
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Yea, that's ridiculous. Now we are going to have a bunch of noobs running around posting nonsense just so they can read the dev thread (not saying you are noob, looks like you've been here a while)
Hi guys I haven't found a topic yet where to find an installation guide for the first release candidate of CM9
I'm new to roms installation and I was looking for a detailed guide or someone that explain me how to...
I'm running a stock kernel, a stock rooted rom (ics 4.0.3 xwlp7) and I haven't installed the Cwm I have it in the internal storage memory and I have to flash it every time I need to use it
That's all
My questions are:
I need a particular kernel? How to change it?
I need Cwm installed or I can leave it like it is now?
I need doing or I can just flash it from the device?
Thanks
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Well, I think if you can't figure out the answers using the search function, and opening a thread for this in the original development section it would be better not to install CM9...
Have you even tried to Google that? C'mon, there are so many guides out there! Don't be that lazy! Oh, and next time write in the right section.
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No one with specific answers to my questions
Sorry if I want to be sure to not brick my phone
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No one with specific answers to my questions
Sorry if I want to be sure to not brick my phone
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Use the noob proof odin method. After that you may update to a nightly of your choice (or rc1)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
I don't think you should be flashing ROM's if you don't know how to even get CyanogenMod on your phone.
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tugler said:
Use the noob proof odin method. After that you may update to a nightly of your choice (or rc1)...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419102
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Read and figure it out on your own. If you don't, you're going to be dependent on other people the whole time you do anything to your device. It's your device, do some research on your own.
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I don't think you should be flashing ROM's if you don't know how to even get CyanogenMod on your phone.
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THANKS A LOT,
MOST OF YOU HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL,
JUST A THING:
IS A COMMUNITY OF ANDROID USERS? YES YOU CAN THINK AT IT AS A COMMUNITY
IN A COMMUNITY, THERE ARE PEOPLES WHO CAN HELP AND PEOPLES THAT NEEDS HELP?
YES
WICH OF THE TWO YOU ARE?
A PERSON THAT NEED HELP? I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT MAYBE SOMETHIMES U NEEDED
A PERSON THAT HELP OTHERS? CLEARLY NOT.
I'VE DONE IT BY MYSELF, I FOLLOWED A GUIDE I FOUND REALLY CLEAR,
IT HAS BEEN QUITE SIMPLE? YES
THANKS TO THAT PERSON
WHEN I CAN I ALWAYS GIVE HELP, THATS WHAT WE SHOULD DO
THATS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ACTIVE AND A PASSIVE USER
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simo2103 said:
THANKS A LOT,
MOST OF YOU HAS BEEN ESSENTIAL,
JUST A THING:
IS A COMMUNITY OF ANDROID USERS? YES YOU CAN THINK AT IT AS A COMMUNITY
IN A COMMUNITY, THERE ARE PEOPLES WHO CAN HELP AND PEOPLES THAT NEEDS HELP?
YES
WICH OF THE TWO YOU ARE?
A PERSON THAT NEED HELP? I DON'T KNOW YOU BUT MAYBE SOMETHIMES U NEEDED
A PERSON THAT HELP OTHERS? CLEARLY NOT.
I'VE DONE IT BY MYSELF, I FOLLOWED A GUIDE I FOUND REALLY CLEAR,
IT HAS BEEN QUITE SIMPLE? YES
THANKS TO THAT PERSON
WHEN I CAN I ALWAYS GIVE HELP, THATS WHAT WE SHOULD DO
THATS WHAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN AN ACTIVE AND A PASSIVE USER
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Typing in all caps is not helping you get your point across.
This is a community, yes. But it's supposed to be a community of developers and hackers. Or at the very least, people who come here wanting to research and learn. But since everyone and their mother now joins and expects to have information spoon-fed to them, it's become a community, as you said, of "users"; i.e. people who simply use.
My point - the information you were seeking could have been found with a search. Rule #1 of the forum rules is:
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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Hell, the instructions for installing CM9 are - surprise, surprise, in the CM9 thread. The same thread that had links to download it. You clearly were able to find it to download it, so did you just skip over the instructions on how to flash?
Give this a read.
Writing in caps doesn't solve anything, you were told what you should have been told, not to discourage you but to save you bricking your phone.
If you can't read few stickies, can't read few threads, that's what you will get.
Read them, than ask and you will be surprised how many will actually help you.
i was not doing controversy, caps was not intended (working i have to use it)
I was just saying that if someone needs help you could at least direct it in the right direction, instead of always criticizing that's all I know how to use the "search" but obviously I did not have any clear answers to my questions that's why I opened a topic in hopes of getting answers. I've had no answers, I had to assume and tests.
fortunally everything went well
Its suppose to be a community of android developers (note: The name of this website!!!)
No one is required to help another person, they choose to help. Some people were nice enough to post guides, faq and etc. The majority of all questions or problems asked has an answer or solution posted. It is the responsibility of the user to search and read them.
Any new users should read the stickies FIRST before posting. Every one of your questions has answers in the stickies. If people dont bother reading guides and faqs, they have a higher chance of ruining their phone.
As you said, there was a guide, you followed it and solved it yourself. Why didnt you simply search for it, BEFORE you posted this.
Guys,
My apologies if this is in the wrong spot, but I'm couldn't find information in the development forum. What does the Optimus G Rom look like? (I think the only one available is "the base") Does it look like stock? Is there any functionality that is seriously lacking? (i.e. LTE, camera, etc.)
Thanks!
This is very much the wrong spot. This is a general thread, not the Q&A thread. There is also a thread for the ROM itself, so you can direct all questions there. You shouldn't have to even ask the question because it's detailed in the ROMs description and throughout the thread. Better yet, install the rom and find out!
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This is very much the wrong spot. This is a general thread, not the Q&A thread. There is also a thread for the ROM itself, so you can direct all questions there. You shouldn't have to even ask the question because it's detailed in the ROMs description and throughout the thread. Better yet, install the rom and find out!
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Even though your points are valid, kindness goes a long way. Please don't turn this into the I777 GS2 forums. Thanks.
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Even though your points are valid, kindness goes a long way. Please don't turn this into the I777 GS2 forums. Thanks.
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I've never been on that forum, so I actually don't know what you're talking about. And I wasn't being either cheery or rude, I was simply stating that there's a proper thread to ask questions in. Please don't read the forums with a guessed tone, it can lead to a lot of misunderstandings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2004731
Take a look here.
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As Murasakiii suggested, go to the thread in Android Development. There's a detailed list of changes and a number of screen shots through out the thread. For the most part, Nottach has done a great job getting rid of AT&T crapware and adding enhancements that are very meaningful improvements on stock.
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I've never been on that forum, so I actually don't know what you're talking about. And I wasn't being either cheery or rude, I was simply stating that there's a proper thread to ask questions in. Please don't read the forums with a guessed tone, it can lead to a lot of misunderstandings.
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Point is if your not being kind. It is easily seen as rude
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I seen a download for e970 stock rom zip in regular og forum in the original development section
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Thanks! I looked through that page but didn't find a) a concise list of missing functionality or b) screenshots. Apparently I looked over both? Anyways, apologies for the incorrect post.
It's kind of a list-as-he-goes thing throughout the thread. Pretty much everything works to my understanding except his mods/changes are a bit buggy if you flash wrong.
A good amount of people have no problems, and a good amount do. It's a completely stock rom, so it'll look just like when you got it, except if you use the changes he's listed in the roms log.
Using the same "tone" as my first response, just in case anyone wants to nag over 2 days about how I type.
Is it that time for a moderator to post a 4.4 related sticky including all the updated methods and apps ( SELinux enabled twrp for one) I just figured it would reduce a lot of redundant posts. Even though I agree people should read the @#$%ing OP's in every thread... Maybe a sticky would get their attention since OP's apparently aren't? Just a suggestion. Im probably just rambling..
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Is it that time for a moderator to post a 4.4 related sticky including all the updated methods and apps ( SELinux enabled twrp for one) I just figured it would reduce a lot of redundant posts. Even though I agree people should read the @#$%ing OP's in every thread... Maybe a sticky would get their attention since OP's apparently aren't? Just a suggestion. Im probably just rambling..
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They don't read the OP why would they read a sticky lol
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Moved out of Dev into Q&A.
If such a thread does not exist in General or Q&A or Dev and you want to post up a really good collection and keep up with it, then we might look at making it a sticky.
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They don't read the OP why would they read a sticky lol
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Too true!! Shame really..
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Moved out of Dev into Q&A.
If such a thread does not exist in General or Q&A or Dev and you want to post up a really good collection and keep up with it, then we might look at making it a sticky.
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Hell yeah.. I personally wouldn't consider myself qualified to be writing stickies, as I'm no expert at this stuff. But then again I guess all you have to do is read OP’s. The devs do a pretty good job explaining how to install these ROMs safely and properly. I've been installing ROMs no problem since I joined xda. No prior knowledge of coding and/or Linux at all, just a mere power-user of Windows OS. But when I read some of these posts my jaw drops... It makes me feel like an all knowing god of installing ROMs.. Which I'm far from.. Lol. I was inspired to make the initial suggestion of a sticky after reading the 100,000th (sic) post asking which twrp to use for 4.4 KitKat. But it would be in vain as the non researched curiosity of fellow xda posters will continue..
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Actually I think a sticky is a great idea.. I just got this device and when trying to decide what ROM to get, most of the OP didn't specify exactly how to install the ROM.
I tried 1 but it didn't work in twrp, I looked it up on Google and found a post about philz CWM. So I ended up going with cm11 nightly, but yeah..so if anyone out there can't figure out how to install the new roms (SElinux based), use philz cwm. (And don't forget fastboot flash boot boot.img if s-on)
I personally think people need to start going all the way with s-off if they are going to flash custom ROMs. The current recommended method is rumrunner I believe.
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That will change soon though!! As 4.3 OTA update is coming out soon for us.. Actually... If a sticky was compiled im sure it would be best to wait after the 4.3 update.. As that is obviously the end of the line of updates for the glorious life the Jewel has had since being released..
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I wouldn't mind putting something together. I was thinking of something that included both TWRP & CWM recovery options, along with links to all the current KK builds for our device.
The biggest issue I've seen is that users don't read (or don't understand) that you specifically have to use a recovery that is SE-Linux enabled, and that the standard TWRP recovery available from Goo or TWRP's site won't work.
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