What is the difference?
are the bands different from one to another, will the international LTE not work with the US LTE? im just saying for instance the Note 2 has LTE built in with the exynos quad, what will be different with the US version if it will have the same quad with LTE as well. Why wait for the american varients anymore?
any ideas, i have looked at some things.....and cant really make to much of it. except that verizon and at&t both use the 700mhz band for LTE
just wondering if someone with a little more knowledge of the network can tell me if the Internaltional version will get LTE here in the states....if so why would they release a US veriant
the2rrell said:
What is the difference?
are the bands different from one to another, will the international LTE not work with the US LTE? im just saying for instance the Note 2 has LTE built in with the exynos quad, what will be different with the US version if it will have the same quad with LTE as well. Why wait for the american varients anymore?
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i know that for some reason the quad core processors dont play nice with our US LTE for some reason right now thats why all the exynos we get are only the dual core supposedly this will be fixed soon
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I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
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pagereborn said:
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
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my guess is that its just like the captivate (and every other AT&T specific phone).....no
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I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
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Look at the bands in the specs - if you don't see UMTS1700, it won't work.
And I have NEVER seen that in the specs for ANY AT&T phone, EVER.
In rare situations, T-Mobile phones supported one (but not both) AT&T bands, but I've never seen any AT&T phone support T-Mo bands.
Entropy512 said:
Look at the bands in the specs - if you don't see UMTS1700, it won't work.
And I have NEVER seen that in the specs for ANY AT&T phone, EVER.
In rare situations, T-Mobile phones supported one (but not both) AT&T bands, but I've never seen any AT&T phone support T-Mo bands.
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+1u vibrant worked on att 3g but that was rare most carriers try to avoid that
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pagereborn said:
I wonder if the 4G network of T-mobile work on the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S II.
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T-Mobile's AWS bands aren't typically supported. AWS isn't even used in Asia or Europe. T-Mobile's SGS2 does have AT&T's bands but not vice versa. But it's a stretch even calling T-Mobile's version an SGS2.
How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
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+1u vibrant worked on att 3g but that was rare most carriers try to avoid that
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Vibrant only supported one of the bands (1900), so it only worked on att 3G in some markets, not everywhere. Some markets only use 850.
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Greenturtle23 said:
How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
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No. 3G and 4G use the same bands. You MUST have 1700 AWS support in order to get T-Mo 3G or 4G. Good luck with that. Only T-mo or some Canandian phones support AWS.
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How about 3G? Does Tmobile support 3G on AT&T phone, since i read both phone have 2100 UMTS.
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You'll get EDGE/GPRS speeds. Typically between 256 and 512K. To get anything higher you'll need a phone that supports 1700/2100 of which there aren't many other than the one's offered by T-Mobile itself.
Simple answer: No.
You will only get EDGE speed on any AT&T phones. There aren't many phones with 1700 band besides T-Mobile phones.
It's funny how T-Mobile's "SGS2" supports AT&T's bands, but not the other way around. But then again their "SGS2" seems more like an Amaze IMO since it's using the darn S3 & not Exynos >:l (points at tmobile). I really wished Sammy could fix the Exynos, so it could support Tmo, because it feels wrong when Sammy teams up with Qualcomm....End of rant.
The only reason T-mo version uses Qualcomm chip is because it needs the 42mbps HSPA+ radio from Qualcomm. The upcoming LTE version of GS2 will also use Qualcomm chip because it needs to use the Qualcomm LTE chip.
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The only reason T-mo version uses Qualcomm chip is because it needs the 42mbps HSPA+ radio from Qualcomm. The upcoming LTE version of GS2 will also use Qualcomm chip because it needs to use the Qualcomm LTE chip.
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The Korean Celox, on which the TSGS2 is based, is an LTE device and using a Qualcomm chip. The two recently announced Korean SGS2 models will be LTE and using a 1.5Ghz version of the Exynos chip. Samsung went with Qualcomm for the TSGS2 and Celox either to shorten time to market or the projected quantities weren't sufficient to modify Exynos. Evolutions of Exynos will continue to power Samsung's flagship phones and tablets starting with the G-Note and G-Tab 7.7.
Which one should I wait for or get?
I know with 4G it'd be more expensive though but it will have Snapdragon, which I don't really like.
But Exynos should have a better performance and I could brag about the new Exynos chip but the downside is LTE doesn't work with it.
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Which one should I wait for or get?
I know with 4G it'd be more expensive though but it will have Snapdragon, which I don't really like.
But Exynos should have a better performance and I could brag about the new Exynos chip but the downside is LTE doesn't work with it.
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1. S4 is actually a decent SoC
2. If you live in an area with decent HSPA speeds then it might not be too bad to go with 3G version
Depends on where you are located. If you are in the US where LTE is supported, I would go for the 4G since you will be paying alot less than the international price. If you are in the UK, I would get the quad core version with a carrier that gives you a plan on that. I'm in the US and if any carrier offers the quad core version, I would take that instead of the 4G because I don't even have 4G in my area, and I think more phone power would be better since WiFi is everywhere now.
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Depends on where you are located. If you are in the US where LTE is supported, I would go for the 4G since you will be paying alot less than the international price. If you are in the UK, I would get the quad core version with a carrier that gives you a plan on that. I'm in the US and if any carrier offers the quad core version, I would take that instead of the 4G because I don't even have 4G in my area, and I think more phone power would be better since WiFi is everywhere now.
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I'm in Australia, we just got LTE last year but only on one carrier.
And they're gonna be expensive, probably like around 70 dollars a month.
The smallest LTE plan is 59/month, the HTC Velocity.
There's also the S2 4G for 64/month.
Trying to decide whether to get it from T-Mobile with a dual core processor, or an International model with a quad core.
Does the international model work on either 3G, HSPA+,or HSDPA on T-Mobile? What other differentiation are there?
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Trying to decide whether to get it from T-Mobile with a dual core processor, or an International model with a quad core.
Does the international model work on either 3G, HSPA+,or HSDPA on T-Mobile? What other differentiation are there?
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No, the international wont work on TMO. Well it will but you will only get 2G speeds. When TMO switches over to the 1900mhz band it will work(HSPA+) and I think they already switched in a couple of locations but it will take a while before it's fully switched over.
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No, the international wont work on TMO. Well it will but you will only get 2G speeds. When TMO switches over to the 1900mhz band it will work(HSPA+) and I think they already switched in a couple of locations but it will take a while before it's fully switched over.
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Do we know if any of the Chicago area has switched yet?
liftsifter said:
Do we know if any of the Chicago area has switched yet?
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no clue
Chicago has not switched. Honestly only like ten markets have made the switch.
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So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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The US version has qualcomm chip which supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
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So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
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The qualcomm chip supports LTE, the Exynos does not... INTL version has 1GB RAM, and qualcomm has 2GB RAM, yes you can use an unlocked INTL I9300 on T-Mobile but will not get LTE and have less RAM... The trade-offs are up to you...
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To be fair, the i9300 is a lot faster than the US models. But to be honest, unless you game, you won't notice a different. The 2GB of RAM was a "whoops, my bad" from Samsung for having to switch processors; RAM does not affect performance unless you have too little RAM. Even the Nexus 7 comes with 1GB of RAM. But anyways, it depends how you use your phone. The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone. The i9300 also gets major updates first. Development, I would say, is about the same for both though.
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So... Galaxy SIII in Europe comes with quad core processor - or so I've read... Why does the US only get dual core?? Can I use a European SIII on US T-Mobile network if I can get one?
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I'll try to reply in a nice way before you get flamed by someone. The quad core version (International) does not support LTE, hence we have the dual core setup which does support LTE. You can use an international device on ATT and T Mobile minus LTE. If I recall correctly you may not even get HSPA + either but I don't know if that is true or not.
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Because the Exynos processor doesn't work with T-Mobile's non-standard 42Mbps on AWS (1700 MHz) and it also doesn't work with the LTE. You can use the international one on T-Mobile but you'll only get EDGE data. If you use it on AT&T though you'll get up to HSPA+ because most of Europe uses the same bands as AT&T (850/1900 MHz). If you want to use international phones, T-Mobile is the worst carrier to be on in terms of data speeds, but they're moving to the same frequency as AT&T, so eventually you'll be able to use it on T-Mobile with up to 21 Mbps.
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Damn you beat me to it.
Damn we be on this one... LOL
Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
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Slight correction. There is a quad-core Exynos that supports LTE. Korea got it, but it wasn't completed by the time the US variants were in full production.
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Because the LTE radio is separate from the Exynos SoC. The Exynos itself does not support LTE. Think HTC Thunderbolt. What this results in is horrible battery life. The Galaxy Tab 7.7 did the same thing with the Exynos dual-core, adding a separate LTE radio with the Exynos processor. If you need LTE, you're better off with the Snapdragon S4 (which is no slouch btw). We're at a cell phone generation where all CPU's perform pretty much the same (current gen meaning S4 - Tegra 3 - Exynos Quad) until you really push them. So again, unless you're benchmarking or heavily gaming, you won't notice a difference.
Also, yes you'll get HSPA+ on AT&T (I'm using my i9300 on Straight Talk), but only EDGE on T-Mobile.
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The other big thing is that the US models have the "bug" or "feature" where you might lose your IMEI when flashing anything to the phone, with no chance (so far) to get it back, meaning you'd have to do a warranty swap to get a working phone.
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I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
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I'm starting to think even Samsung doesn't have a clue what's really going on with that... or a very ingenius way to sell some phones at full price... Hasn't deterred me any...
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Samsung supports developers. They gave the entire CyanogenMod team Galaxy S II's when they first came out. They hired Steve Kondik (Cyanogen), and they worked with XDA devs to try and fix the ICS recovery perma-brick issue on the SII, Note, and other phones. It's probably the carriers that messed with the software without knowing what they were doing.
if you haven't heard already from previous posts the USA s3 supports lte and the UK one doesn't and we also have 2gb of ram they do not but they have a quad core chip to even it out and to be fair.
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All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
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All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
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you talking about the Us variant of the S3 (Qualcomm s4 version) or the international version (Exynos quad core version)???
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All S3 has the 4G antenna, they just pick up different data freq? I got the i9300 and currently reside in US under AT&T. KNow if there are anny ways to receive 4G? The phone according to specs can only do 4G in europe and such, but any one have any idea?
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i9300 does not have LTE. The max you get with it is hspa+
Unwanted info: As of today you will get edge only on T Mo US.
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you talking about the Us variant of the S3 (Qualcomm s4 version) or the international version (Exynos quad core version)???
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Yes, I have the i9300 quad core and according to the specs i've found online it supports 4G in europe but not in US
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Yes, I have the i9300 quad core and according to the specs i've found online it supports 4G in europe but not in US
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where did you find that spec??? It's wrong.. international version doesn't have a LTE/4G Antenna.
Only the Korean (exynos) and the US (qualcomm s4) versions have 4G/LTE as far as I know.
Most of the websites say the s3 is 4G friendly or regional, etc., All that means is it's supported in certain regions (south Korea, US)
The i9300 does have the 4g bands except 4g lte bands for AT&T in the US.
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We don't have 4G LTE bands, but we do have "faux" G bands though.