Hi,
I bought a brand new "Chinese" battery of 2430 mAh because my stock battery was lasting nothing. My stock battery I must admit I did not take proper care of it, I pretty much charged it every time I had a chance, without waiting for it to be empty, so I thought the battery was just bad because I took bad care of it.
With this new battery, the first thing I did, was do a complete wipe out of my device. I cleaned the internal and external storage (formatted the internal storage and I got rid of all pictures and crap from the external sd) and I did a fresh install of the RootBox rom with fluxi kernel.
The problem is, battery drainage is still a huge issue with a fresh rom install.
Just leaving the phone sitting on my desk for an hour (not actually using it), drained the battery about 10%.
Could this be an electrical issue with my phone? Is this ROM related?
I've heard most people can make their phone with regular usage, last for at least 10 hours. Mine barely survives 4 hours with normal usage.
I look forward to any recommendations or tips on how to fix this problem.
Thank you!
nmuntz said:
I've heard most people can make their phone with regular usage, last for at least 10 hours. Mine barely survives 4 hours with normal usage.
I look forward to any recommendations or tips on how to fix this problem.
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There's no such thing as "regular usage" or "normal usage".
You may not believe this, but surprisingly you're not the first person to complain about battery life. If you bother to search (it's the very first rule of the site), you'll soon find what's recommended to others in order to track down what might be using up your power.
Good luck.
oinkylicious said:
There's no such thing as "regular usage" or "normal usage".
You may not believe this, but surprisingly you're not the first person to complain about battery life. If you bother to search (it's the very first rule of the site), you'll soon find what's recommended to others in order to track down what might be using up your power.
Good luck.
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I know i'm not the first (nor I'll be the last one) complaining about battery life. I have tried hundreds of suggestions on how to improve battery life but I think my situation is a bit unique and different. We are talking about a brand new battery, with almost double the size as the original stock battery, a fresh rom install, and the battery draining 10% of its juice while sitting on a desk without even turning the phone on.
I would like to know if this is normal, if it could be an electrical issue, something wrong with the internals of the phone, or is it a software issue, etc.
Thanks!
nmuntz said:
I would like to know if this is normal, if it could be an electrical issue, something wrong with the internals of the phone, or is it a software issue, etc.
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If you're asking whether it's normal to try and justify yourself as having a unique problem, then yes, it seems it is. You're not unique, and it would be impossible for anyone to answer your question accurately with the minuscule amount of useful information you've given.
By the way, just because a battery claims to be 2430mAh, doesn't mean it is, and judging by my first few results on eBay searching for that ... well, yeah, right, I wouldn't expect it to be much more than 1400, if that.
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By the way, just because a battery claims to be 2430mAh, doesn't mean it is, and judging by my first few results on eBay searching for that ... well, yeah, right, I wouldn't expect it to be much more than 1400, if that.
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I agree with this. You need to get a name brand battery, or an official samsung one to be sure about the stated and actual mah of the battery. I have two anker 1900mah batteries and I believe they are very close to that
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Hello dear members
I'd like to ask if an everyday charge will harm my battery.
It's my first week with my phone, and I can't keep my hands off it
As a result, battery runs out every day!! So I charge it...
Will something happen to the battery?
thanks in advance
This phone has a litium ion battery. They don't have a memory effect but in the first time they need some time to become the full potential. So it doesn't matter if you charge the phone every day.
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Thank you so much!!!!
It's a relief
To maintain better battery life it might be a good idea to make sure that u dont fully drain the battery
That shouldn't be a problem the most battery's should have electronic inside to prevent this but I can't guarantee it. You can read also the Wikipedia article about lithium ion batteries it's quite interesting.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
Thanks so much everyone Point taken
I'll never let it fall under 10%.
Well, Battery is average. If it weren't for the 2.3.3 bug, it would rock! In order for it to be normal, I keep ****ting Services.(under Services menu) like Voice talk, SocialHub(which drains a lot of battery) etc
Anyways, thanks to everyone
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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It is better for you to charge daily and often when the battery still has charge and not leave it until the battery is totally flat.
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I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
ithehappy said:
Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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Nope. Li-ion batteries these days prefer constant top-ups and full drain actually kills it faster. Totally opposite of what people have been taught over years of NiCD battery use that I've got friends who absolutely refuse to charge their iPhones unless it's at 10% or less. Their loss.
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Isn't it actually opposite, I mean somewhere I heard that if a Full charge is given after a Full drain then the battery gets conditioned (optimized I think), can't remember the source but I do remember the fact.
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No that's only good to do once in a while. Full discharges daily put stress on the cells and wear out li ion batteries quicker.
CarpathianUK said:
I'm glad this thread exists. I'm so used to running a battery down to the minimum before charging it that I probably would have been in that habit for my SGS2. I'd actually come here to ask the same question now I've been through my first four or five "full" -> "red" -> "charge to full while off" cycles.
Is it confirmed both from the SGS2 & LION technology point of view to now keep it charged up, even if using only half/quarter charges etc to do so?
My battery is giving me around 40 hours a time so not too bad but I'd like to keep it running as well as I can.......
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Yes it's common for all lithium ion batteries to charge as often as possible. Its true for all phones on the market today and quite a lot of discussion on this is all around the web.
Also a replacement stock battery for any cell phone today is around 20 dollars, so really you can't do much wrong since its so cheap to buy a new OEM battery replacement.
Thanks for the replies. I think this will catch a few people out so hope the thread doesn't get missed amongst all the other battery ones!
Looks like I'd better change my charging habits!
I got this phone Friday.
I didn't root it Saturday but it was in the back of my head. Before I rooted it, I noticed that the battery life was the worst I had ever seen. I read online that this is a bug in 2.3.6 (good job samsung).
It charged while I was watching some TV, so I rooted it and installed UnNamed. This knocked me down to about 50%. I finished off the battery playing games. Then charged it back to 100%. When it was roughly 58% it froze so I had to pull the battery. When I turned it back on, and the battery was magically at 29%. Which seemed odd to me, is it just inaccurate or how does that work?
The hell is wrong with this phone? Nothing gets to me more than bad battery life. If I can't get this resolved, i'll have to bring it back to AT&T and swap it out for something else.
no advice for you, but mine is going on ebay when the htc ics phone comes. I haven't tried them yet. oh, I'm importing all phones from now on, too.
I noticed the same thing with my samsung get the galaxy nexus has a great battery...
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Most more than likely it's the wiring leading up to RAM processor, and, consequently, the flux capacitor, which is probably where your problem is. The flux capacitor is what regulates the battery input/output which can sometimes lead to poor battery life, disappearing battery percentages, and in certain cases where your last name is McFly - time travel.
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You know what?
**** this phone, unrooting it, and bringing it back.
Im done.
I had the same problem returned and got a new one problem solved
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I'm sorry you aren't enjoying your phone. I had some great app suggestions, but this sounds like hardware failure...
JeremyLeroy96 said:
You know what?
**** this phone, unrooting it, and bringing it back.
Im done.
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No sympathy here dude its a side effect of our fuel gauge
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JeremyLeroy96 said:
I got this phone Friday.
I didn't root it Saturday but it was in the back of my head. Before I rooted it, I noticed that the battery life was the worst I had ever seen. I read online that this is a bug in 2.3.6 (good job samsung).
It charged while I was watching some TV, so I rooted it and installed UnNamed. This knocked me down to about 50%. I finished off the battery playing games. Then charged it back to 100%. When it was roughly 58% it froze so I had to pull the battery. When I turned it back on, and the battery was magically at 29%. Which seemed odd to me, is it just inaccurate or how does that work?
The hell is wrong with this phone? Nothing gets to me more than bad battery life. If I can't get this resolved, i'll have to bring it back to AT&T and swap it out for something else.
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Search is your friend, this is a well documented situation. In short it's how li tech batteries work in combination with how our fuel gauge works. (it goes off of voltage vs counting mah, and there's voltage sag under high current draw, this equates to it showing lower than it is on reboots at low power)
Battery percentage artificially reports low when the device is rebooted on low battery. This is widely documented on these forums.
If you're returning the phone because of this one small minor glitch, good riddens.
Also, Unnamed 2.x is not immune to the BT-AMP bug that kills battery on UCKK6, since it's based off of UCKK6. This is why many reverted to Unnamed 1.x
And why did you post a new thread on this? There's a dedicated thread for UCKK6 battery issues.
You need to be patient dude. Use search and read through all the related posts in this forum. You can begin with flashing the rooted stock 2.3.4 with KH7.
Entropy512 said:
Battery percentage artificially reports low when the device is rebooted on low battery. This is widely documented on these forums.
If you're returning the phone because of this one small minor glitch, good riddens.
Also, Unnamed 2.x is not immune to the BT-AMP bug that kills battery on UCKK6, since it's based off of UCKK6. This is why many reverted to Unnamed 1.x
And why did you post a new thread on this? There's a dedicated thread for UCKK6 battery issues.
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Idk... I was pretty upset last night because of it. It sounded like hardware, you're saying it isn't?
I was tired, posted at like midnight
Sorry for the trouble.
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JeremyLeroy96 said:
Idk... I was pretty upset last night because of it. It sounded like hardware, you're saying it isn't?
I was tired, posted at like midnight
Sorry for the trouble.
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It's a minor hardware glitch that happens only when you reboot your phone on low battery. Solution is:
1) Accept the weirdness of your battery rising after the glitch
2) Reboot when on charger if the battery is below 50-60%
3) Reboot at a higher level of battery
You didn't magically "lose" 30%+ of battery - that's impossible. You just had the estimate of charge level thrown way off.
As an example of what is possible - right now my typical drain is well below 1%/hour when the phone is sitting in good signal. In weak signal it's about 1%/hour.
Man I don't know what the deal is I'm on this thing gaming web surfing and other **** and I got my wife saying "Your always on your damn phone " and I get 18-20 hours per charge
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Entropy512 said:
It's a minor hardware glitch that happens only when you reboot your phone on low battery. Solution is:
1) Accept the weirdness of your battery rising after the glitch
2) Reboot when on charger if the battery is below 50-60%
3) Reboot at a higher level of battery
You didn't magically "lose" 30%+ of battery - that's impossible. You just had the estimate of charge level thrown way off.
As an example of what is possible - right now my typical drain is well below 1%/hour when the phone is sitting in good signal. In weak signal it's about 1%/hour.
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I have the same problem
Is that a problem of battery hardware or the phone? IS this a common problem with all i777? because I havent seen lots of people complaining about this?
Thanks
Ruchira88 said:
I have the same problem
Is that a problem of battery hardware or the phone? IS this a common problem with all i777? because I havent seen lots of people complaining about this?
Thanks
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It is, as I've said before, the one corner case where our fuel gauge fails. It's the small price we pay for NEVER having to worry about battery recalibration - it will always converge towards truth, the only problem being that high load after a reset (rebooting on low battery) will throw it off for a few hours.
Hi, I have a problem with my Ace. When I only use 2G and use my phone for calls/sms, my battery lasts for like 3 days. But if i have 100% full battery and I use the internet with (or without 3G), my battery lasts for like half an hour, drains from full to 0 and then phone turns off. If i turn on my phone again, it shows like 30% or more battery left, but if data connection is still on, I lose 1 percent in like every second.
This is not only with data connections. I drained my battery from 100% to 0 in like 1,5 hours with just looking some pictures and using the calculator. I would like to think my battery is dead, but it lasts like 3 days when used for calls/sms only.
I have tried recalibrating my battery many times, used different ROMs (stock and custom), still same.
Is there anything else I could do to check my battery status??
Anyway, I am looking for a new battery but not the original one. Im looking from eBay. I contacted the sellers and asked for the weights. Original battery weighs like 30g. I got replied that these two (2050mAh High Capacity Replacement Battery for Samsung Galaxy S5830 and aoonen 2PK NEW Li-Ion Battery for Samsung S5830 Galaxy ACE 1800mAh fast shipping) batteries weigh 50g and 60g. This makes them less likely to be the fake gold ones, or what do u guys think? Has anyone bought one of those batteries? Or can anyone recommend a battery with more capacity than the original one (1350mah)
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I'm 100% sure that something is wrong with your battery.
I've never heard about such long-life battery in Galaxy Ace.
3 days calls and texting ?
It's normal that battery drains faster when using mobile data, but not that fast.
If You can, ask a friend to borrow You battery from Galaxy Ace.
If everything will be okay then You'll know the naswer.
If other battery won"t last longer, then i suggest to check you phone for "short circuit".
Maybe something is wrong with your motherboard that is connected with 3G .. ?
okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
Tarts5 said:
okay thanks, can I use the battery from S5830i?
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I believe so, they both use the same sized battery (1350 mAH, Li-ion Batteries)
Though I may be wrong someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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Hi
Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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Im my SGA I have the same problem, usually lasts a day, using net 60% disappears in half an hour. Could be the browser configuration ? or the conditions of access to the network?
Is it's the browser, wich one is the best?
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My batter is two years old and it works good.
I use CM7 and no super widgets. Maybe it saves energy.
Try another ROM, remove or switch off everything You don't need.
Maybe it will help You. If not, it's time to buy another battery.
Don't ask which browser is the best, because we don't know what You need.
I need my browser to browse websites. I don't use favourites on mobile phone, so everyone is the best.
mastertantoo said:
Hi,
I just bought two gold extended life (2450mAh) batteries for my Ace! I was meaning to test them against the stock one but hadn't got around to it yet. Didn't use the stock battery much as I think it's original to the phone which I recently bought 2nd hand.
If anyone wants me to do this test (properly) let me know.
Thinking about this; perhaps a few Ace owners could flash a common ROM and perform a standard discharge test. This would give us some baseline.
Regards,
MT
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There's an app called "Battery Drain". Try charging your phone to 100%, turn on Battery Drain and select everything except Vibrate, and let us know how long it takes to fully discharge.
I have a stock battery, and it lasted ~3 hours.
Myth
Hi.
Nothing works in my ROM, most of apps are useless (all?)
Changed to LastMyth, after some days I'll be back to share the experience
try to delete the battery.stats
real myth
Jenson25 said:
try to delete the battery.stats
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Hello Jenson.
Sorry to desapoint you but de advantage of deleting battery stats is a Myth [not The Lastmyth] :cyclops:
See this
I re-installed ZDBox (old version) and helps a little, probably have to use a kernel
let's wait and see
For clearing ram Try Fastreboot
It's an app n will not run all time like other task killer apps and widgets
just click on icon it will clear ram
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
shivadow said:
The gold high-power batteries for this phone.. are they any good?. If you have bought one can you please give some kind of feedback on them as I am considering buying one. Stock battery just doesn't cut the mustard.
Thanks.
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Hi, if you use search you'll find lots of information, such as:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1098513
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524&page=2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1783344
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1702524
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1877831
everything is inconclusive, except that there are advantages to using the stock
I have tried many ways to calibrate it and my conclusion was that this broken.
I compare it with another and mine is somewhat swollen
New battery on the way
Wow, just too many variables! For instance.. Any idea how many mA the vibrator uses when typing with haptic feedback? What about the extra battery used by the radio when your in a poor reception area, does my micro-sd use more power than yours? Etc.
Battery life comparisons will only be meaningful in conditions where the battery is the only changed variable. So i would charge two or more batteries; discharge one, then another, measuring the times. Both batteries would need to be new unless you just want to compare something tired and worn with just out the factory.
Not 100% but I think it's relevant how many amps you take at a time, in relation to total capacity.. The chemical tech. may be difference, but lead-acid cells give differing amounts of charge dependent on temperature, and rate of discharge. In most applications capacity (C), is measured over 20 hours (C/20). C/100 will see many more amps capacity, and C/10, fewer! Also consider a used battery could last a considerable time, if only the high drain occasion is minimal. Something simple like the vibrator could send an old battery 'over the edge' if the drain is too high.
What does all this mean to me? Unless you wanna spend hours discharging your phone battery finding out (not really), get a fresh battery online; they still don't cost much and are easy to find. Gold batteries have been available for some time so go with your gut on that one! Perhaps, like me, you think it's worth the risk.
If you really love your phone and think you'll still be holding on to it in a couple of years time - you'll be thankfull you bought a spare battery or two while they were still cheap
Peace!
-mt-
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Hello, problems of battery are the most important in the management of smartphones increasingly sophisticated. I know of no silver bullet, so it makes sense to always have an alternate (note that battery life depends on time, even without use)
I found a small application, very cool, which is PowerTutor, which gives us interesting information from the battery usage. However'm with JuiceDefender Ultimate (free version exists). The only application which effectively spare battery was Greenpower. [all in gplay]
I hope I helped
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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Hi, new battery from ebay :laugh:, now lasts a day under normal use and a day and a half with little use of the internet.
Not bad for the low price
Seems that lastmyth that is not worse than the others in the use of battery.
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This is usually the fix. It's amazing how fast some batteries start failing. Old batteries and cold temperatures are usually the top cause of poor battery life, especially in secondhand phones.
Try Juice Defender :thumbup:
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Hello
So my GS2's battery was seriously getting crappy, and I ordered a new original battery (more expensive, but I really wanted it to work properly). Before the replacement, it was all over the place, and I think I may very well have a phone that's seriously confused about its battery options.
Thing is, after the replacement the phone isn't charging the new battery properly (AFAICT). If I'd have to venture a guess, I'd say it charges it to 33% and then it states 100% full.
So, I get just a handful of hours of regular on-time with this new battery. Sometimes the phone hard-dies when saying about 50% remaining, other times it actually says something like 2% remaining, then dies, but still awfully far from logical, considering the fresh battery replacement.
I've searched for how to calibrate this thing, and most results simply recommend the "fully deplete, then fully charge, extract, reinsert, etc." method.
However, this does nothing to help me.
I read somewhere that for some custom ROMs (Dorimanx kernel?) you could do a more "explicit" recalibration, but I'm not sure if that'd work — as I'm on ParanoidAndroid ATM, and here I don't have such option.
So... Does anyone here know of any more "legitimate" way of recalibrating? I really don't want to buy a new phone, as these days I don't see any phone I really want to buy...
TIA,
Daniel
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Sparks9876 said:
new batteries require a few charge discharge cycles before they reach max capacity, you may need to leave it on charge for longer than the "charged" info appears.
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Thanks, Sparks, but I've already done this many times. I've had the battery for a couple of months now, but I really need to figure out how to calibrate the phone so that it starts behaving "normally" with my new battery...
Let it die, juice it up while it's off, take the batt for 90 sec when it hits 100% and put it back in?
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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No. The whole 'calibrate the battery thing' (and the apps that claim to do it) on the S2 is Kool Aid.
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There is no need to calibrate the battery
sorry for my english
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Something definitely needs calibration, and yes, of course it's not the battery itself when buying a fresh original battery does not fix one's battery problems, it must be some battery controller somewhere. I just started a new job, and my CEO has a Galaxy S3 which started having battery troubles. Like me, he replaced the battery, and like me, nothing changed.
In the meantime, my S2 died completely, so problem "solved" I kinda feel retarded for planning on buying a Note 3... Probably ought to run from Samsung devices altogether...
I have been trying out various 4.4.x ROMs (CM, Resurrection Remix, SlimROM) and had varying levels of success but the one issue that I have had consistently with all of them on my SGS2 is battery. 4.4.x seems to devour my battery no matter which ROM I am using (and the different ROMS are using different kernels usual). CM11 has far and away been the most stable so I have stayed with that but it too as failed to resolve my battery issue. I have never had much luck with battery life before but half a day is ridiculous. I thought about trying a different kernel but not sure that would help as #1 I would think the CM team would know better than I what would be the optimal kernel and #2 I have been trying different kernels anyway when I have been trying different ROMS as I believe the different ROMS have all had different kernels. Has anyone else had this issue? More importantly has anyone had any luck resolving this?
I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
4. Betterbatterystats and greenify are your friends.
ottoasd said:
I suggest you to replace your battery. Beaware from cheap ones!!! I have I9100 too, i also try many methods to increase my battery life but i reach maximum 10 hours. Then i buy new batteries. It is not original galaxy s2 batteries but i think better than the original one.(1800mAh buy from ebay) Now i use RR kit kat rom with stock kernel my mobile data is always on and I go to bed at %35 percent of batteries.
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Thanks. My battery is about 2.5 years old, its an Anker battery, 1900mAh that I bought on amazon (I honestly don't know what constitutes "old" for batteries, is 2 1/2 years old?). As for ROMS I was actually running an older version of RR but had serious stability issues (related to sdcard, never was able to resolve it) and battery wasn't great (better than now though) when I upgraded to the newest RR I had some lingering stability issues and battery issues too so just settled on CM11 this time.
banjara said:
1. If your battery is quite old, replace it.
Sorry, but what in your all's opinion makes for an "old" battery? 2, 3 years? or are we talking 4+ is there a way I could test my battery to see if it going bad perhaps?
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2. Check whether you are having any wakelocks. Does it go to deep sleep?
I am not totally clear on wakelocks and deep sleep, I have "Battery Stats" installed (guess its not the same as the betterbatteryapp but seems to give some similar info) but its not clear to me how to read it all. In this case it sayd the stat period is 3 hours 8 minutes and out of that it has been in deep sleep 1h 51m and running time 1h 17m and wifi time 1h 25m and my batter is down to 74%, I am assuming that is not normal? In terms of applications the hogs are defintely the two audio apps poweramp and dogcatcher (they are just at the top of the list, the numbers it gives don't really make sense to me)
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3. When you say battery life as half a day, what is your actual usage? Screen on time, Wi-Fi, 3g, calls etc?
Well I have a 3 hour idea of my usage above, I don't use 3 g, I have wifi on about a third of the day perhaps, and actualy screen time probably just an hour or two, I do use it quite a bit for podcasts and music though. But I had tried it with my audio apps uninstalled for a few days and it still drained fairly quickly.
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4. Betterbatterystats and greenify are your friends.
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Will take a look, I kind of liked the battery stats option to compare to stats that others have uploaded, but I haven't checked out greenify.
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Thanks!
If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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If your battery is 2.5 yrs old, that's almost certainly the cause of your issues. Good advice to stick to original Samsung batteries; though there's nothing wrong with the 2000mAh genuine Samsung battery Vs the 1650mAh one - I used one of these for almost two years.
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Doh, was hoping I wouldn't have to replace the battery. Actually... that said. Should a 2.5 year old mostly unused 1650mah samsung battery still be good? I think I still have the factory battery around somewhere now that I think about it. When I purchased the Anker battery I seemed to remember it was mainly for price and reputation reasons, not that the Samsung battery had such a bad reputation but the Anker had such a good reputation and a pretty good price.
I will give another battery a try if you say 2.5 years is old, but I do have to admit that the battery drain was not nearly as much of an issue with the older ROM I was using (RR 4.2.x) before, it wasn't stellar but not like this so it seems to me its more than just the batter thats giving me problems here.
Anyway, my phone is still golden other than the battery issues so if i can squeeze another year and a half out of it I'd be a happy camper. Any other thoughts would be welcome (and appreciated!)
Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Batteries discharge over time if they're stored/not used, ideally you should charge it up to/keep it at around 60-65% every few mths if you're going to store it for that long. If you've not touched it at all in that time, it might not be able to take/hold a charge anymore because that wasn't done.
Only way you're going to find out is if you charge it & use it.
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doh, yeah haven't touched it; and the life lessons continue (didn't know that about batteries). will try it out, if its gone its gone, lesson learned.
Yeah, if you ended up getting 4 yrs out of a smartphone you'd be rather happy indeed.
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Yeah, I suppose I am pretty easy to please, I don't do games and don't really do video and don't feel that my phone is particularly slow (yet) so so far happy enough
If you really want to satisfy yourself as to whether it is indeed the age of the battery you're currently using causing your problems, do a clean install of stock & test that for a week. If it does the same thing with stock, you'll know for definite it is the battery. I'd be very surprised if it isn't though; they're not designed to last much longer than what you've had yours if you're charging/discharging constantly.
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Thats a good idea, given what you've said i don't doubt that a large part of my problem is the battery (like I said before, with the older rom it was better but not stellar) do you know where I can find a stock rom nowadays? (sorry on the ROMS page they all seem to be custom roms, or perhaps i missed something?)
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Stock roms @ Samfirmware, get one for your carrier/country (not 4.0.4 though, anything else is fine), if there's only 4.0.4 for your carrier/country, any other stock rom will do really -I just tell people to stick to carrier/country in the first instance as these have modems bundled with them that should have been tested by the carrier to give most people on their network good connectivity most of the time.
Or, Wanam has a thread in one of the development sections (I forget which; do a search or have a rummage around) that has CWM flashable stock roms if you'd prefer to do it that way; haven't had a look at the thread for a while so not sure if links are still live, but Wanam is a very active dev & I'd be surprised if he doesn't still have them hosted somewhere.
Does it drain more at a locationw where you use a certain Wifi?
I'm asking cause wlan-rx drains are know Android phones in big open Wifis as the phones get bombarded with signals from other computers/phones and are not filtered and keeps the phone awake.
Easiest way to find out is using Betterbatterystats.