OK I am just looking for opinions. I can purchace an atrix in a boot loop for $100 US. This is without knowing if i can go into recovery or what firmware is on it. I have unlocked used custom roms and recoveries and stock recovery before. I recently got a new locked down atrix and am looking for one i can unlock. Just asking opinions as to likelihood of fixing. Thank you in advance for info
affiatic said:
OK I am just looking for opinions. I can purchace an atrix in a boot loop for $100 US. This is without knowing if i can go into recovery or what firmware is on it. I have unlocked used custom roms and recoveries and stock recovery before. I recently got a new locked down atrix and am looking for one i can unlock. Just asking opinions as to likelihood of fixing. Thank you in advance for info
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if the only problem its the bootlop i say yes. a bootlop its a very easy problem to fix
thought about it. with the issues i have had with 3 other atrixes risk of other problems is high so i think i will pass
I would think go into recovery and flash a new ROM would do the trick to fix it.
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Deggy said:
I would think go into recovery and flash a new ROM would do the trick to fix it.
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That would be assuming it has an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery already. But what if it isn't so? What if it has a LOCKED (meaning unlockable) bootloader? He did say he knows nothing about its overall condition, just that it's stuck in bootloop.
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That would be assuming it has an unlocked bootloader and a custom recovery already. But what if it isn't so? What if it has a LOCKED (meaning unlockable) bootloader? He did say he knows nothing about its overall condition, just that it's stuck in bootloop.
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True. Would it be possible to continue the unlocking process at this point?
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Deggy said:
True. Would it be possible to continue the unlocking process at this point?
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Flash SBF files maybe would solve this....
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I second the sbf idea... even without an unlocked bootloader officially signed sbf's will work unless the internal storage is dead, which still is fixable by using the external storage. (but i doubt its dead)
EDIT: Be very careful while flashing sbf's though. Make sure the cable and everything is secure, your phone is charged, computer securely plugged in, etc... if something goes wrong it could hard brick, but that is not too likely as long as you take precautions.
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Can i unlock my atrix if i used the official att update is it safe i wanna flash a new rom i have the instructions how to just not sure if its safe i read all these people saying its not on some of these forums
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1154600
Yes, but when you flash pudding, you will get soft bricked (don't worry) you'll have 5 seconds to put your phone is fastboot mode, when done just continue the process and you should be fine. I unlocked on official 2.3.4, and I'm doing good
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4
this thread has a ton of information on what to expect. I did it and its worked fine
mvolkhart said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4
this thread has a ton of information on what to expect. I did it and its worked fine
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OP says "i used the official att update", so I'm assuming he's already on Gingerbread. No need to flash a full SBF just to unlock it then, and flashing full SBFs is no longer recommended except as a last resort.
Pudding.sbf is the way to go (just a megabyte), and here's the easiest way to do it:
Automatic bootloader UNLOCK/ROOT for AT&T 1.26/1.57/1.83/4.5.91
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
OP, this is as safe as it gets. If you are already on GB then you will get a soft brick after the initial unlock attempt but mramirezusa script warns you of this and tells you exactly what to do about it. Just make sure that you have the latest Motorola USB drivers installed before you do any of this.
The script will unlock your phone, install a special ClockworkMod for Atrix 4G, and install su for root access. After this is all done you will want to apply any future updates via ClockworkMod in your phone's Fastboot menu. Don't mess around with SBFs unless you absolutely need to, and definitely do not apply an SBF for an earlier version of the phone's firmware or you will hard brick your phone.
Good luck!
Javi97100 said:
Yes, but when you flash pudding, you will get soft bricked (don't worry) you'll have 5 seconds to put your phone is fastboot mode, when done just continue the process and you should be fine. I unlocked on official 2.3.4, and I'm doing good
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^^^ THIS ^^^
mramirezusa's script rocks.
Thanku man now I was scared to softbrick my phone so I used my older atrix that I have laying around I unlocked using that method but im on 4.1.26 now the prob im having is how to safley update to gb now without losing my unlock any ideas
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For your 4.1.26 unlocked phone it would be easiest to just do the full 4.5.91 SBF with unlocked bootloader and /preinstall root as another poster suggested: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182526&highlight=sbf+2.3.4
so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
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so i'm about to install 4.5.91 in a few hours.. gonna backup lots of data first..
im trying to avoid bootloader unlocking for the meanwhile cause of the warranty issue and the fact u cannot re-lock.
anyway i just grabbed ATT-2.3.4_Pudding_preroot.rar and ill flash it over the gladiatrix 1.8.3 i have currently on the device (will it work?)
later i intend to use the preroot method and root and of course.. install a recovery BUT.. since the new recovery needs an unlocked bootloader.. ill use the previous one with the battery charging hack
so.. what do you think guys? will it work?
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I would assume the att-2.3.4_pudding_preroot already is preunlocked (hence the pudding) which defeats your purpose?
Also, what would the purposed of the old plugged in Recovery? It won't install any of the new ROMs and I don't think the nandroid back up really works that well.
not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
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not quite.. its just have the "pudding" in it.. you'll have to perform an unlock with fastboot to void warranty.
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Ok, so the other question - point of the old recovery? Just to help you wipe data/cache/batterystats?
The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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The old recovery will still save him... You shouldn't need to be unlocked to do that.
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save him from what and how? other than wiping data... he can't flash anything that can save him...
Indeed I think he can backup with old tenfar's recovery. The problem is that the sfb he wants to flash is the incorrect one, you can't use the prerooted without unlock the BL at least for the version I know. In other hand The update process is kinda complicated without unlocking the BL, if you do it OTA you will also update the BL and that one can't be unlocked now also could leave you bricked if flash back to 1.8.3.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163342
gives stock 2.3.4 without touching bootloader.
you should be able to use preinstall method to root then i think.
He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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He needs to unlock the BL to flash kennp image files.
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yeah my bad.
I recently unlocked my phone and rooted, I tried to flash CM7 Beta everything went well except when i rebooted it got stuck at the dual core screen. After trying everything, I decided to flash back to stock since cm7 wouldn't boot. My question is now that I flashed back to stock do I need to re-unlock my device? Does it stay unlocked? Can I just root it and retry CM7 again?
it happens to me too im reading on the forum but i dont think the bootloaders remain unlock cuz when u do the process it say that in the warnings
No one knows?
I read that once you unlocked you are unlocked forever because when you unlock it kills a fuse but you can cover up the 'unlocked' message so the average joe (such as ATT or Best Buy employee) wouldn't know you unlocked for insurance purposes.
I've also read posts though, like you, that state that it does re-lock the bootloader, so I am confused! I dont want to try flashing again though and end up with a hard-brick!
only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
before installing any custom roms you need to do a backup. after that, do a full wipe/factory reset, wipe cache & wipe dalvik cache. then install your custom rom, reboot, wait anything up to 10 minutes, and voila!
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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Might want to do some reading and research. This has all been discussed previously in a couple of threads with links supporting a hardware unlock. Nobody has provided any proof of a software only unlock as of yet. Would appreciate if you posted where you got your information.
Cheers!
konna280 said:
only installing official roms after unlocking will re-lock your phone or brick it. so if you can no longer see 'unlocked' when you turn your phone on then you will need to re-unlock the bootloader.
before installing any custom roms you need to do a backup. after that, do a full wipe/factory reset, wipe cache & wipe dalvik cache. then install your custom rom, reboot, wait anything up to 10 minutes, and voila!
theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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Can you provide a link that this is indeed a software lock?...
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CaelanT said:
Might want to do some reading and research. This has all been discussed previously in a couple of threads with links supporting a hardware unlock. Nobody has provided any proof of a software only unlock as of yet. Would appreciate if you posted where you got your information.
Cheers!
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Sorry, when i say software based i mean the use of software (using programs to flash files) to modify hardware. hardware based unlocking would mean having to modify hardware, such as soldering or other means of modifying/replacing components.
konna280 said:
Sorry, when i say software based i mean the use of software (using programs to flash files) to modify hardware. hardware based unlocking would mean having to modify hardware, such as soldering or other means of modifying/replacing components.
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Soo..
You start a new thread about a topic that already has 17 threads dedicated to it.
You clearly dont understand how the current unlocking process works.
You claim to know of a new sw unlock, but even after being asked a few times will not elaborate or give a link or other info about it.
And your making up your own terms depending on what makes sence to you.
That settles it. You win the lolthread of the day, and were not laughing with you.
let's simplify:
http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader
This unlocks the bootloader through the use of software, does it not?
http://tinyurl.com/6gwycaq (explains what a bootloader is)
Plus... I didn't start the thread. You might need to do a little reading on that.
I've clearly unlocked, rooted, and installed a new ROM on my atrix (i initially used the gingerbreak app to root it, but decided to change the ROM at a later date, so unlocked it fully)
I don't claim to know of a sw unlock. I merely stated that software is used (RSD lite, drivers etc) to carry out the unlocking procedure.
Oh, by the way, it's "WE'RE not laughing with you" (not very nice ) and "YOU'RE making up your own terms". Little bit of research for you, if you want
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theres no 'fuse' that needs blowing to unlock the phone, by the way. its all software based, and it can be re-locked providing that there is freely available software that allows you to do so!
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I think you're mistaken, it's a hardware lock. There has not been a software only solution shown. Since I have gone through the steps you described, and then re-unlocked my bootloader, the two processes were different (unlocking vs. re-unlocking), meaning that something changed when I unlocked the bootloader.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifuse#Antifuses_in_integrated_circuits
Trust me, this stuff is in all the ICs that you use.
Ok then, i apologize for not doing my research
I just ASS-U-MEd that if it can be re-locked then there is no modification taking place to the hardware itself (such as blown fuses - I'll admit though I only recently heard about eFuse's/Antifuse's as I've never dealt with them before, and therefore didn't know that the Atrix had them)
Thanks for the info.
lockety lock lock lock Lmfao
Im still laughing. No apostraphes needed.
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Im still laughing. No apostraphes needed.
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nvm lol
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reunlocking is the same presedure which you did before. just you dont need to do the fastboot unlock oem.i did it and reunlock 2.3.4 telstra
I would like to add the "unlocked" that comes up when I turn on my phone since I would will have to send it in service! can someone help me pleas?
gianluca.tomat said:
I would like to add the "unlocked" that comes up when I turn on my phone since I would will have to send it in service! can someone help me pleas?
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You can't. Also, what's with the two Qs in the thread title?
Is it not possible to put it back in its original state?
I have the original Orange 1.8gb sbf, can't it be done with this? I thought this would return it to its stock unrooted, unblocked state.
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jersonf said:
Is it not possible to put it back in its original state?
I have the original Orange 1.8gb sbf, can't it be done with this? I thought this would return it to its stock unrooted, unblocked state.
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If you flash a stock ROM (such as an SBF) that has the stock bootloader included the text will be gone and the bootloader will technically be locked. However, I'm pretty sure there's some sort of "fuse" inside that activates when the bootloader is unlocked. It will never revert to its original state.
This has discussed many times. The unlock bootloader actually burn the fuse permanently. If u flash a sbf, you will get the unlocked word removed, but technically the fuse still burned and can't revert back. Some call it software locked, hardware unlocked. Try search the thread about odm fuse. I did flash sbf to remove the unlock word in order to send it to motorola service centre to replace the digitizer. But flashing sbf might hard brick your phone.
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Ok tnx for the answers, is it "safe" to flash a GB SBF, the only problem should come w/ FROYO FW right? Anyway it was just to make it appear locked, I know the fuse thing...
If you can, flash the latest version you can find. You will only hard brick your phone if you try to use RSD Lite to downgrade your phone.
jersonf said:
Is it not possible to put it back in its original state?
I have the original Orange 1.8gb sbf, can't it be done with this? I thought this would return it to its stock unrooted, unblocked state.
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Please would you be kind enough to upload the orange sbf ??
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If you hide it, its still unlocked right?
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If you hide it, its still unlocked right?
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Techinally its unlocked, but it may not work correctly with flashing Roms, kernels, etc. I have heard various reports of "unlocked" features not working correctly unless the unlock word is there.
I know it sounds fishy, but that's just what I've read on these boards over the last year.
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This has discussed many times. The unlock bootloader actually burn the fuse permanently. If u flash a sbf, you will get the unlocked word removed, but technically the fuse still burned and can't revert back. Some call it software locked, hardware unlocked. Try search the thread about odm fuse. I did flash sbf to remove the unlock word in order to send it to motorola service centre to replace the digitizer. But flashing sbf might hard brick your phone.
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This. Also, when he means "software locked, hardware unlocked", he means that the bootloader acts as if it was locked, but the fuse is still burned. It's unlocked, but you don't get any of the features that come from unlocking.
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Please would you be kind enough to upload the orange sbf ??
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Got it from this link, it's not mine, it has the same md5 checksums as in the Atrix firmware superthread that were originally posted here on XDA.
http://www.4shared.com/archive/Azn21wCy/1FF-olympus_emara-user-234-452.html
Compression MD5 - 6603FA0BD5E4E3B254B664516E7F278C
SBF MD5 - DEB8E9165C20F2DFEF880D6D73164B12
Hello,
is it possible to relock bootloader after ulocking it? I need it due to the warranty.
in short, No. please search the forum for details, as this is discussed.
i suggest you just try the luck sending the phone in and not mention anythong about the bootloader. of course should flash to stock rom if that still can be done
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Why you want the warranty? Want to sell it later? Or did it already got any fault?
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in short, No. please search the forum for details, as this is discussed.
i suggest you just try the luck sending the phone in and not mention anythong about the bootloader. of course should flash to stock rom if that still can be done
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I think, he did not say he is sending to service center. He just said he needs it for warranty (in future).
See how smart these new pals are. May be we are all idiots to unlock it without giving a second thought. lolz
I do not have yet any fault, I just want to try alternative rom and I want to have way back to stock rom
My last phone had after 3 month of use some problem and I must return it. So I just want to know if it is possible
I thought that flashing the stock u-boot & x-boot will re-lock the bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37250265&postcount=10
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39761686&postcount=30
Maybe this should be in a sticky post somewhere. I have seen a few people ask about re-locking the bootloader.
If this works, we should start collecting u-boot & x-boot images.
There is no way to relock bootloader. Here is good post about bootloader and omap4430, it applies to L9s. In our case ics xloader ,uboot or both simply don't recognize that bootloader had been unlocked and it just appears locked.
I see. Thanks you.
So, you guys with unlocked bootloader, have no problem with fact that your devices have no warranty?
If you don't mention the unlocked bootloader to the customer service and your device has an unrooted stock ROM, there is only a few chance that they check the bootloader if it is for an hardware issue.
It only requires a little bit luck .
If i will make root by this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
With locked bootloader, then install cwm. May I then install cyanogenmod and if something goes wrong may i return to original stock rom together with warranty?
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stanislavdavid said:
If i will make root by this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2173465
With locked bootloader, then install cwm. May I then install cyanogenmod and if something goes wrong may i return to original stock rom together with warranty?
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cwm requires unlocked bootloader
I think you need to install the "CWM Recovery" bootloader to flash a custom ROM. And with a locked bootloader, you can only have a bootloader signed by LG (not a "CWM Recovery" one).
However, you can try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825
It is a "CWM Recovery" which is not directly placed inside the bootloader (instead, it adds a step on Android start). When I tried it on my P760 (when it still had a locked bootloader), it failed (but you can still try).
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I think you need to install the "CWM Recovery" bootloader to flash a custom ROM. And with a locked bootloader, you can only have a bootloader signed by LG (not a "CWM Recovery" one).
However, you can try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2095825
It is a "CWM Recovery" which is not directly placed on in the bootloader. When I tried it on my phone, it failed (but you can still try).
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Actually that recovery will not work on jb,
Ok, that's why it failed for me.
Now, you have your answer, you must stay on ICS if you wish to keep your bootloader locked with CWM Recovery.
However, I would be curious to know what happens if a JB ROM (custom or stock) is installed through using this "locked bootloader CWM Recovery".
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Ok, that's why it failed for me.
Now, you have your answer, you must stay on ICS if you wish to keep your bootloader locked with CWM Recovery.
However, I would be curious to know what happens if a JB ROM (custom or stock) is installed through using this "locked bootloader CWM Recovery".
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I received "Security Error" when attempting to boot when I tried this a while back. It just won't work because the kernel needs to be signed by LG.
So may I at least root phone or even root is not possible without unlocked bootloader?
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Root is possible with boolloader, try this method (it worked fine for me while I wasn't on an unlocked bootloader) :
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stanislavdavid said:
Hello,
is it possible to relock bootloader after ulocking it? I need it due to the warranty.
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You do not know resealed on, it is true that and forth they have forgotten to write never to can be relocked
sometihing new
Hello, does anybody know something new about bootloader relock?
stanislavdavid said:
Hello, does anybody know something new about bootloader relock?
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Not possible yet.