OK this is a stupid question but I would like clarification from some of you in this forum. I am currently running CNA JB on my photon. Over the last few weeks I have used over 600KB of roaming data. When I got my bill it did not show this data because roaming on Verizon is 1X speed and Sprint tracks 3G on the bill. My question is will Sprint realize I am using all the roaming data and try and boot me or will it fly under the radar? Additionally I do not see a section for roaming minutes or texts. Are they tracking this as well?
I know many of you object to roaming PRL's however I am currently away from home for the military and do not have Sprint service here. It will get changed back when I get home in a few months, I just want to make sure I do not get booted before then. Thanks
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I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
jrebo said:
I'm curious about this too. I've always kept data roaming off because I didn't know if I'd get charged.
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I can tell you for a fact that you will not get charged. I just pulled up my bills for the last 6 months and I have used roaming data every month. The concern with sprint is that they will not charge you, but if they think you are using to much they will cancel you so you can go to another carrier that has better service in your area. This saves them money because they pay Verizon for the data you use in roaming.
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I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
Dan
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cianci162 said:
I wish I knew this before I took a trip out to Wyoming but the answers are true, roaming isn't a problem. I called Sprint and asked them and they said it wasn't a problem with their Nationwide plans (i'm sure you have one). I turned on roaming for calls and data then turned off the call and data guards.
cheers,
Dan
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Per sprint policy : Continus Roaming over a 90 Day period will constitute sprint into sending you a letter concearning your constant use off the network, they will give you a chance to return using the service or be canceled if continued. This only applies to users that live and use their phones off network (roaming) for a continus period of time ( living and working in a area that never had sprint coverage, bottom half of the contract explains this and states if you dont use their service or excessively use a roaming service it constitutes a breach in contact and can further cost a ETF ( early termination fee).. If you have DSL and are in a roaming area, call sprint and ask for a AIRRAVE - free femcell booster for sprint customers only that are in poor coverage or out of the service area ( this turns your dsl into a sprint signal and supports calls and net)
I have always roamed xD I use about as much roaming or sprint as I wish just whichever gets better service or faster Internet (usually sprint since its 3g and I needa change out my Prl to get my 3g work in on roaming I think) any good references to how to change your prl easily?
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Rill roaming is the only option I am aware of.. ie: most ROMs include the ril that makes your home only do roaming and choosing automatic will force you onto a roaming network only.. I don't believe we can access another networks 3g because its hidden from a non subscriber.. the question is where we could be if the sim card for international was able to be motofied into a roaming on gsm networks when service is unavalible while still CDMA and on home only.. never happening tho
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
Not sure .. I do believe any Prl that is roaming related to data will break regular data 3g until back on your carriers data Prl .. correct me if I'm wrong but the ril is closest to running a off network data 3g or equivalent without flashing a different prl each time unless you can flash over automatic and have force roam 3g..
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I think if you have the sprint business prl, like 111111 or something, you can get 3g while roaming. I believe joker has said that is what he uses
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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please dont knock it till you have actually tried it thank you. im saying this as my personal experience
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I wasn't knocking ya, bro. I was just clarifying the info :beer:
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actually it is possible to roam and get 3g on sprint i used to do it all the time. look up a thread that has a pagplus prl for a sprint phone and that will yield the results that your looking for
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Thanks... crazy week. I will try it as soon as I can and post the results. Thanks for the advice.
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If you have unlimited data on your plan you dont get charged for data while roaming
To update anyone interested I have used almost 4GB roaming an have still not received a nasty gram from Sprint. It is almost 95% data and minutes roaming. I will keep everyone posted of this changes.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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Are you able to get 3g speeds while roaming? I'm assuming so or you probably would have to have been downloading something huge this while time on a 1x network.
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One would think, but no I am committed. Rocking the 1x baby!
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Sprint sent me a letter and gave me a few calls from their roaming department when I hit about 12 GB plus a few more of roaming data. I was mainly tethered to the internet from the laptop and uploading my music collection to play music. I have the 11115 prl to access 3g and every once in a while data would drop.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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was searching and this is the most relevant thread I could find to the subject.
I have a photon on 3.5 and live in a pretty rural area. I lose all reception halfway up my driveway lol.
also even in town where I work I get pretty poor reception at times.
My question is since I am on 3.5 is it possible to change the prl to force roaming on Verizon?
*coworkers that have Verizon get full signal while I sit at 2 bars or less*
I understand sprints roaming situation with cancelling but I don't think that will be an issue. heck if they cancel me without an ETF i'd probably be happy.
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Might as well unlock gsm on your photon that'll probably be your best bet
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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I just loaded the hybrid prl to my phone and went from 1-2 bars about a quarter mile from a tower to 5-6 bars about a quarter Mike from a Verizon tower. This shows me that its not the phone that gets a bad signal, it is the service. I came from Verizon and I am used to everything working all the time, but on Sprint there are times a text won't go through. Does anyone know if I can do something to the phone to not show that I am roaming on Verizon now?
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even if your phone shows ur not roaming it will on your bill and you will get kicked
what roaming? I thought sprint has free roaming?
This no longer the case?
Can you give me some info on how you changed to the verizon prl?
You can't hide that. Just like you can't hide your phone from 911. Verizon is aware of your number roaming. They will charge sprint for every minute and kilobyte you use. Since your are using verizon constantly, sprint will be charged a lot for your use. They will then, sooner rather than later, terminate your contract...and again soon. See it happen in these forums before.
Your brand new evo3d will then be without a service.
What do you expect? You can't root and bypass your way past everything. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff. Plus, sprint is the only unlimited data carrier left. If people continue to do as you are doing, and teether, etc...then that unlimited data may become limited.
OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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OK. Two things I don't understand. PRL noob so go easy...
First, our phones automatically roam Verizon's towers for both cell service and 3G. Mine does it all the time. So why would we need another PRL? When the Sprint signal gets weak enough, it's going to use Verizon towers anyway.
Second, both Sprint and Verizon have had a "free roaming" agreement for over a year. The way it was explained to me at my local store, the agreement is that Sprint and Verizon both share towers so in the (less likely) situation where Verizon coverage is weak and there is a Sprint tower nearby, Verizon phones will actually roam on Sprint. The way it was explained to me: neither company is "renting time" from the other's towers so I don't think Sprint is paying out the wazoo (at all in fact) for Sprint customers roaming on Verizon towers.
Mike
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The PRL the OP put into place makes his phone roam on verizon constantly. A PRL serves as a handshake between the phone and the towers. Standard PRL looks for sprint towers, and if none are present it looks for verizon. The OP seems to have installed a prl that looks for verizon towers first.
You may be right about the free roam agreement, but sprint still cancels people's service if they are abusing this. Just happened in the Evo forums. There may be a free roam agreement, but verizon won't tolerate sprint customers exclusively using their bandwidth if they are not paying for it. They will then tell sprint that so and so number needs to be cut. Then sprint will send you a letter saying your contract is to be terminated on so and so date due to excess roaming. So, theoretically, this could happen to someone who has sprint, but lives in a sprint dead zone where they have to use verizon all the time.
Do it for long enough and they will cancel your service.
Where we live is a Sprint dead zone. Occasionally we do pick up the distant Sprint tower and my service says "Sprint" but I'd say at least 75% of the time my phone is using a Verizon tower since I work at home. Never got a spanking. Of course, I guess if I changed my PRL and they noticed I'm on all sorts of different Verizon towers (even where there is good Sprint coverage), maybe then they'd raise an eyebrow? I wonder if their setup is sophisticated enough to detect that you use Verizon towers all over town as opposed to using one particular tower all the time just because you live in a fringe area. Interesting.
What we really need is not a new PRL: we need the ability to change the phone's preferences so it switches to Verizon's towers earlier. For example, switch to Verizon towers ANY time the Verizon signal is better... not just when the Sprint signal becomes so weak it drops out.
Mike
FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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Ya i got one coming myself
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FYI, they still send out free Airave's.
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Yup.. I've got one, but haven't activated it yet... It kind of sux that I have to use my in-home broadband bandwidth to get decent service from Sprint.
Another thing that sux is that when I'm out on the water (Chesapeake Bay), Verizon has solid service where Sprint's service is spotty. Sprint's PRL is also set to NOT roam on these Verizon towers, causing a battery drain like there's no tomorrow.
Looks, like I might have to start using a Verizon PRL,when going out fishing..
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I'm not doing this to cheat Sprint. I can't even make a phone call at times and that can be dangerous and frustrating. I usually switch it to Verizon prl before work and back to Sprint in the evening. But I'm usually on WiFi all the time except at work. Today is day 30 or my 30 days. Maybe I should go back to Verizon
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How are you switching PRLs? The ##PRL# EPST code doesn't seem to work for me.
Be careful with that Verizon PRL, after moths of using it, Sprint will call you and will cancel your account
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Roaming data is not unlimited. So, if you roam every once in a while and pull down your latest email or check a map, etc., you'll be fine. If you're always on roaming data and pull too much data, you will be dropped. I've heard different numbers for the limits, but there is one.
Whatever happened to the ability to force roaming? On older devices we used to be able to pick "Sprint Only" "Automatic" and "Roaming".
I would always do that when I was getting crap Sprint signal.
I switched them using qpst. I have about 7 or 8 different prls saved to my computer I switch to to see what works the best.
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So I received a call from Sprint Friday morning, which actually woke me up, and rep told me that I was using too much 4G data and my account would be monitored for the next 10 days and if I continued using so much 4G that my account would be canceled. My data usage isn't anything crazy either.
Has anyone else had this happen?
I was so grogy at the time I didn't really argue with him and hung up the phone. Later that day I thought more and more about it so I called Sprint back trying to find someone who knew about this, after about 5 reps, a dude got me a number for the department that called me. Curiously enough he couldn't even tell me what the department was called, just said it was a small department that only handles these things. Unfortunately they are only open 8-8 M-F so I haven't been able to contact them.
Wow.. that's weird man. Keep us posted.. I'm in phoenix and have access to some of the test 4g area's setup, but don't get to use them often. Hope that's not the case!
Do you mean maybe roaming data? Because I was under the impression that Sprint data was completely unlimited.
I know in General, someone else got calls too but that was about roaming data.
That's weird, keep us posted. But they do crack down on roaming data
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I got a letter saying I was violating my data tems.
I have an Overdrive with a line JUST FOR DATA and use it on 4G ONLY. I haven't used so much as a BYTE on 3G.
I have my EVO 3D with unlimited data and use it primarily on 4G.
If it's NOT unlimited data, don't sell me UNLIMITED DATA
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Do you mean maybe roaming data? Because I was under the impression that Sprint data was completely unlimited.
I know in General, someone else got calls too but that was about roaming data.
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Nope, he said specifically 4G data. Can you even roam on 4G?
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I got a letter saying I was violating my data tems.
I have an Overdrive with a line JUST FOR DATA and use it on 4G ONLY. I haven't used so much as a BYTE on 3G.
I have my EVO 3D with unlimited data and use it primarily on 4G.
If it's NOT unlimited data, don't sell me UNLIMITED DATA
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Exactly... Not to mention I'm being forced to pay extra for 4G, why shouldn't I use as much as I want on an unlimited plan?
I would have a huge problem with this since I left tmobile because of their 5gb limit on data. And had to give up my sweet my touch 4g which I honestly still miss.
That's really weird, considering that there isn't even a way to monitor how much 4G data is being used anyways. The info on the website only reflects 3g data use. I thought 4G was true unlimited.
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I bet the rep was new. Maybe you were roaming 3G. I think we are allowed like 250Mb 3G data while roaming. But you gotta go over that limit several months before they do anything typically. 4G/3G is unlimited on our phones. I don't know of any other Wimax 4G companies besides Sprint and Clear. I use Clear's network everyday for 4G since Sprint doesn't have 4G here. And never had a problem... Sprint does hold half their shares or something.
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That's really weird, considering that there isn't even a way to monitor how much 4G data is being used anyways. The info on the website only reflects 3g data use. I thought 4G was true unlimited.
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Well you may not be able to view how much 4G data your using but Sprint would certainly monitor it.
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I bet the rep was new. Maybe you were roaming 3G. I think we are allowed like 250Mb 3G data while roaming. But you gotta go over that limit several months before they do anything typically. 4G/3G is unlimited on our phones. I don't know of any other Wimax 4G companies besides Sprint and Clear. I use Clear's network everyday for 4G since Sprint doesn't have 4G here. And never had a problem... Sprint does hold half their shares or something.
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Well, he stated I was in violation of the terms of service of 4G and was using too much data, but when I asked him about what terms I was violating he wouldn't state it. The only way they would really know what I was actually using my 4G data for would be if they were doing deep packet inspection on my IP packets. The weird part is I've been using 4G and tether since the Evo 4G came out, and my usage patterns haven't changed much. That's what is really confusing.
interesting, especially seeing how all there commercials are bragging about unlimited data.
what do you normally do with your 4G on a daily basis?
maybe it was for roaming . not 4G , 4G . you must get sick ass signal of 4G whereever you're at on a daily basis haha
Any chance it was a fake call? I've used probably 30GB of 4G some months, no issues.
honestly... i would tell them to kiss my a**... if you happen to call them back or they call u back, tell them just that...
they are not gonna do anything..
y'all getting trolled, dude lying or had a nightmare. sprint 4g is unlimited as is the 3g, its true about roaming though.
sources: sprint documentation and my data usage, i would have been dropped back when i had my hero, my LOWEST data usage was 15gb and i will not quote my max
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y'all getting trolled, dude lying or had a nightmare. sprint 4g is unlimited as is the 3g, its true about roaming though.
sources: sprint documentation and my data usage, i would have been dropped back when i had my hero, my LOWEST data usage was 15gb and i will not quote my max
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I'm not trolling. Here's the number the guy gave me. 18552358851.
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I go along with a friend screwing with you and making the call.
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I go along with a friend screwing with you and making the call.
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Here is another XDA thread I just found. Besides, the call came from a Sprint service number.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137063
That post was about "rooting and tethering for free" and roaming.
Are YOU doing any of these things?
I am currently using the 00001 PRL... which everyone seems to suggest is a bad idea. The area I live in is real **** for Sprint... Verizon rules the roost here. So, the question is, what am I risking by using this PRL?
According to sprint i have 800 roaming minutes, and 300MB of data. The minutes, I will never, ever touch. My last phone plan with T-Mo only had 700 minutes shared between my wife and I, and we never went over. In my home, I use wifi, so the only time I'd use data is if I'm out... though it is still possible I'd go over 300MB.
A lot of people seem to think Sprint will terminate your service if you roam to much. Do they charge you, or just give you the boot? I really wouldn't mind if Sprint booted me ETF-Free... I'd just switch to Verizon then. If they are going to give me a bunch of fees for roaming all the time though, this is a problem.
So.. has anyone here actually bumped heads with Sprint over this? What happened?
There's another thread here where some members complained because they got nasty grams from Sprint and a few were given notices they would be terminated in 30 days.
Another person ended up with a $700 phone bill because roaming doesn't count on things like mobile to mobile minutes and all.
I used it on the old evo last year and got a huge bill, as it wasnt covered under my $69 plan, but they let me switch to the $99 plan so I didnt have to pay
OK... thats what I needed to know. I don't mind getting canned, but I don't want a huge bill.
I have had the 00001 PRL installed for a day and data is so much faster. Tracking my usage at Sprint, I have used:
Sprint 3G data = 776,939kb
Sprint 3G roaming data = 51,466kb ( mostly from PRL 00001 usage)
I currently have unlimited usage on both. Without a doubt, I am strictly roaming on 3G data. Question is if Sprint will notify me of excessive roaming since I have unlimited usage on my contract.
**Note: It seems obvious that for some unforeseen reason, Sprint is purposely limiting our data speeds since a simple PRL file across the same 3G service towers is all that keeps us from 2mbps+ speeds. Data has been garbage since the first day on the EVO 3D; it is not a hardware issue but a carrier limitation...
I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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I tried this PRL today and was wondering about getting charged as well. I would probably only need to use it a couple of times a month. What do you guys think, you feel that I should be fine?
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A couple times a month is what i use it for.
Been doing it since it came out of the OG EVO.
No problems yet!
/knocks on wood
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
thanks
incarceration said:
I have some questions about this:
1) what exactly does this PRL file accomplish in relation to the OTA PRL received (PRL 21081)?
2) If I have unlimited data and unlimited roaming (data and voice) will Sprint even care if I use this?
3) I go to 2 campuses for my college and 1 of them has poor service and there's a VZ tower right near by that I could use, would this PRL allow me to use this tower and get good service?
4) does this allow you to receive greater than 2MBit\sec on the Sprint PCS network?
thanks
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1. Makes your phone only use vz towers.
2. If you use it too much, yes. (not sure the amount (sprint gets charged for us using vz towers))
3. Probably.
4. No.
Lol, thanks for the itemized and quick response.
For me, the difference between using Sprint's prl and the 0001 Verizon prl is .4mb/sec on Sprint's and 2.5mb/sec on Verizon's. Pretty big difference. Just sucks that you have to worry about getting a huge bill or kicked from Sprints network for using it to much.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I tried this but it kept saying that it couldn't verify my account when placing a call.
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I have this same problem. I've done the chat for an HLR reset but it didn't work.
Has anyone else had their data speed crap out on them after updating from 21089 to 21090? After updating this morning, I'm seeing a "1x" above my data icon now and even SpeedTest is timing out. If your data is fine, are you on a custom or stock ROM?
I'm on MeanRom v4.5, s-off with HBoot 1.4.
Not in my area its actually a lot faster now
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Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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I believe you but it seems like such a coincidence that my data totally crapped out immediately after I updated the PRL. And a few others in the forums were reporting the same thing.
ur right
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I believe you but it seems like such a coincidence that my data totally crapped out immediately after I updated the PRL. And a few others in the forums were reporting the same thing.
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i noticed the same thing man 1x all over the place..soo angry.... then i switched roms to venom teams and it came with 85 and boom everythings speedy again......so yeah =D
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i noticed the same thing man 1x all over the place..soo angry.... then i switched roms to venom teams and it came with 85 and boom everythings speedy again......so yeah =D
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Changing the ROM changed the PRL?
sitlet said:
Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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Do you have proof of this? Seems to me the prl tells the phone which towers to connect with, Sprint or otherwise. Why would they bother updating it so often, if it is just used for roaming? I seriously doubt they spend that much money on man hours just to update roaming towers.
Preferred Roaming List. Sprint phones will automatically connect to sprint towers. The PRL is only used to tell the phone what towers and frequencies to connect to when roaming.
Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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The PRL affects every tower the phone connects to. ON network or OFF.
The list contains data about every access point on or off network that the phone can connect too. It then has priority set for on network access points so those will be chosen over an off network access point.
Roaming two definitions
1. When a wireless device associate automatically with a different access point.
2. When a wireless device connects to another providers access point.
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Then explain prl 00001 that only connects to Verizon.
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Because it sets the Sprint towers as the roaming towers, thus the phone thinks Verizon towers are the towers it should be normally connecting to.
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Once again, stock PRL's have no effect on data speeds when you are on the Sprint Network. Stock prl's only affect what towers your phone connects to when roaming.
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YOU MIND PROVING YOUR STATEMENT?
Everyone that got the update did a profile update. SINCE THEN EVERYONE IS HAVING THE SAME SLOW DATA ISSUE! SPRINT PURPOSELY DID THIS!
Sprint's data network is crap anyway. And I highly doubt Sprint would purposefully release a PRL to limit phone's data usage.
There was a prl pushed last year that everyone got and everyone was stuck on 1x data. I think this might have been when I was on the lg Optimus s, can't really remember... But either way, I traveled quite a ways back and forth to work, data never changed from 1x. Reverted to an older prl, I got 3g back. I know prl is meant to control roaming... But I think there's more to it than that. I've seen first hand it affect more than when I roam. But I will buy that it won give anyone faster or slower speeds from the same network other than affecting HOW it connects to the network.
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The PRL affects every tower the phone connects to. ON network or OFF.
The list contains data about every access point on or off network that the phone can connect too. It then has priority set for on network access points so those will be chosen over an off network access point.
Roaming two definitions
1. When a wireless device associate automatically with a different access point.
2. When a wireless device connects to another providers access point.
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That's what I thought. Thank you.
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Because it sets the Sprint towers as the roaming towers, thus the phone thinks Verizon towers are the towers it should be normally connecting to.
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By that rational you prove my point. The PRL does tell the phone which towers to connect with. Which in turn could effect data speed.
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What matters is we need to downgrade our PRL TO 21089
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I DONT' THINK you guys are getting it. how many people in here did a PROFILE UPDATE TO GET THE PRL!? IT WAS IN THE PROFILE UPDATE THAT KILLED THE SPEED! I want to know WHAT THEY PURPOSELY DID TO SCREW WITH OUR DATA!
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I DONT' THINK you guys are getting it. how many people in here did a PROFILE UPDATE TO GET THE PRL!? IT WAS IN THE PROFILE UPDATE THAT KILLED THE SPEED! I want to know WHAT THEY PURPOSELY DID TO SCREW WITH OUR DATA!
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Use qpst or flash back to a gb Rom & change your prl then.
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Well, it would appear that something is amiss here with the PRL. I am running a custom rom, and when it was loaded, it had 21089 as the PRL. Data speeds here and places I travel were acceptable. Now this past week I was on the road to a location that according to the sprint coverage maps should be "best" for the coverage, but the entire time I was there the phone only had 1X connection at what could be described as sucky speeds at best. The fact it indicated 1X would tend to tell me it was actually roaming and not actually on a Sprint network. So is it possible that due to agreements they have in place with other providers, they show coverage in areas they actually have no towers and are using other providers towers? I may be wrong, but it is my understanding that those of us who do not have the "corporate" PRL are downgraded to 1X when roaming. Now that I am back in my home area, 3g is back and everything is back to normal.
By the way, I did not do a profile or prl update, so I am not sure when or how 21090 got loaded.
I do plan on contacting the folks at Sprint and see if they have any explanation for this level of service. Do not have a lot of hope here, but can't hurt. I will post an update if they give me anything actually useful!
Have a good weekend everyone.
So I bought this LTE EVO 4g for lte.. I pay 10 dollars for premium data service and well all I get is 3g ..my bill for one line is roughly 100 dollars a month.. so my girl has straight talk and pays 45 unlimited a month.. well I'm ready to jump ship and I was wondering if I can one get me off the cheap way sprint contract and 2 use my LTE EVO for straight talk?
I think straight talk uses AT&T bands (gsm) so the Evo LTE wouldn't work because it uses cdma bands. It WILL work on Boost though. If you must use Straight Talk, then sell your Evo and buy a One X or One of XL.
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Here's a guide to start you off
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473141
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Do you live in an active NV deployment?
If you are tired of Sprint service just pay the ETF and move on.
stanglifemike said:
I think straight talk uses AT&T bands (gsm) so the Evo LTE wouldn't work because it uses cdma bands. It WILL work on Boost though. If you must use Straight Talk, then sell your Evo and buy a One X or One of XL.
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Straight Talk uses several carries, including SPRINT, ATT, and VERIZON. How do i know this you ask; well I sell them as part of my job. Straight Talk is working hard on making it easy to bring your own phone and activate service through them. In a few months (subject to change) The system should be in place to bring any cdma phone to straight talk. Currently at the store i work at, all of our straight talk phones go off verizon. Some stores have ones that go off ATT or Sprint, so you need to be careful in which phone you select.
leerage said:
Do you live in an active NV deployment?
If you are tired of Sprint service just pay the ETF and move on.
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They haven't deployed here yet.. cost 300 dollars to Etf
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jcwxguy said:
Straight Talk uses several carries, including SPRINT, ATT, and VERIZON. How do i know this you ask; well I sell them as part of my job. Straight Talk is working hard on making it easy to bring your own phone and activate service through them. In a few months (subject to change) The system should be in place to bring any cdma phone to straight talk. Currently at the store i work at, all of our straight talk phones go off verizon. Some stores have ones that go off ATT or Sprint, so you need to be careful in which phone you select.
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Never once heard of st working on sprint towers.. and Verizon and AT&T believe it or not share towers..
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I am in a same boat. Struggling with unusable speeds, while my friends with t-mobile's "wannabe" 4G are getting 14mbps down and 3 mbps up. Faster than LTE in 2 spots that I was able to get it.
I thought of using Verizon PRL and force Sprint to boot me off their network, but I called them, gave them all of my complaints, and hoping they could help me. I was with them for 11 years, so maybe they will take it into account.
The verizon prl is the best solution. Because the only thing they are gonna take into account is the fact that right now they are making a ton of money off you. If you wanna try to flash your phone to verizon or pageplus you won't be disappointed. If you need 4g and live in good tmobile coverage area then selling your device after you get kicked off sprint is a good idea.
thlinx said:
Never once heard of st working on sprint towers.. and Verizon and AT&T believe it or not share towers..
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physical tower yes, same panel, NO... and yes, some phone go off the sprint network
Asadullah said:
The verizon prl is the best solution. Because the only thing they are gonna take into account is the fact that right now they are making a ton of money off you. If you wanna try to flash your phone to verizon or pageplus you won't be disappointed. If you need 4g and live in good tmobile coverage area then selling your device after you get kicked off sprint is a good idea.
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How do you do that.. I remember the og evo being able to do that . How do you do that?
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I actually left straight talk with the BYOP program (Nexus 4) I had the AT&T sim, which was all fine and dandy until about the second of January. It seemed like all of my towers were either down or just working very poorly. I also got throttled after streaming ONE youtube video during my month (I'm on wifi otherwise) so trust me, you WILL get throttled on ST. I also had problems with the phone not connecting to towers for literally an entire day, and when people tried calling me it said my phone was "disconnected" even though I paid for service 3 months in advance.
My personal opinion is to avoid them, but it really is up to you what you want to deal with. My data with ST was way faster than with sprint, but all I use my phone for is streaming music, which Sprint's 3G can handle rather easily where I live. I would recommend flashing to boost, same phone, speed, and a lower price. Plus you actually know at what point you'll be throttled.
Also, before anybody says anything, I also tried a tmo sim and had the same issues. I get great tmo and AT&T reception where I live also. It seems to me they're cheaping out on their towers.
just my 2 cents.
shiftylock said:
I actually left straight talk with the BYOP program (Nexus 4) I had the AT&T sim, which was all fine and dandy until about the second of January. It seemed like all of my towers were either down or just working very poorly. I also got throttled after streaming ONE youtube video during my month (I'm on wifi otherwise) so trust me, you WILL get throttled on ST. I also had problems with the phone not connecting to towers for literally an entire day, and when people tried calling me it said my phone was "disconnected" even though I paid for service 3 months in advance.
My personal opinion is to avoid them, but it really is up to you what you want to deal with. My data with ST was way faster than with sprint, but all I use my phone for is streaming music, which Sprint's 3G can handle rather easily where I live. I would recommend flashing to boost, same phone, speed, and a lower price. Plus you actually know at what point you'll be throttled.
Also, before anybody says anything, I also tried a tmo sim and had the same issues. I get great tmo and AT&T reception where I live also. It seems to me they're cheaping out on their towers.
just my 2 cents.
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Since I'm upgrading the AT&T cell sites I can assure you they are def upgrading there sites rapidly ..
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Is there any way to actually force roaming with Verizon PRL? I flashed that, but it shows that data is going through Sprint 3G, not roaming.
Meanee said:
Is there any way to actually force roaming with Verizon PRL? I flashed that, but it shows that data is going through Sprint 3G, not roaming.
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Are you sure its a Verizon Prl that allows data roaming? If I'm not mistaken some of then do and some don't.
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thlinx said:
Since I'm upgrading the AT&T cell sites I can assure you they are def upgrading there sites rapidly ..
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I had the same issue with the tom sim. Maybe it's just that straight talk has issues in my area specifically, I'm not sure.
laie1472 said:
Are you sure its a Verizon Prl that allows data roaming? If I'm not mistaken some of then do and some don't.
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I am on that 001337 PRL. Should I be on something else?
Meanee said:
I am on that 001337 PRL. Should I be on something else?
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Try 00003... I think for 01337 you need roam control to force roam but I'm not sure. 00003 will keep you on Verizon and I'm enjoying better speeds and the possibility of getting out this horrible contract for free!
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gmfeny said:
Try 00003... I think for 01337 you need roam control to force roam but I'm not sure. 00003 will keep you on Verizon and I'm enjoying better speeds and the possibility of getting out this horrible contract for free!
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This seems hit or miss..I've read reports of people roaming multiple gigabytes and getting no warning while I went just over 300mbs twice and got the letter. Good luck getting out if that's what you so desire. Some will give you flack for this method, but I support you. Sprint advertises "normal" 3G speeds, but for a portion of us the speeds are dismal. I got a free airave out of it so I was happy as my only real issues were at home.
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mulhiny said:
This seems hit or miss..I've read reports of people roaming multiple gigabytes and getting no warning while I went just over 300mbs twice and got the letter. Good luck getting out if that's what you so desire. Some will give you flack for this method, but I support you. Sprint advertises "normal" 3G speeds, but for a portion of us the speeds are dismal. I got a free airave out of it so I was happy as my only real issues were at home.
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Lol Ive dealt with their horrible data speeds for so long it doesn't even bother me. And paying the extra $10 for data when I only picked up wimax when I was in Albany and it wasn't even that good there was annoying but I sucked it up. But after losing my discount right after I signed on for another 2 years pissed me off.
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