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i want to know if its really lived up to the hype i think it looks nice but the battery is smaller than my fascinate and the thunderbolt is more of a resource hog and it seems thats everyone biggest complaint
I will keep mine...Root is coming...
keeping it, a phone is a phone, but root makes it MY phone...
i'm keeping mine. i upgraded from the original droid so this is a fantastic phone even-though the battery isn't great. still, i think it will be a matter of finding a balance or tweaks to get the battery running longer. plus, someone said root is coming and that will be followed by some roms which will make this awesome phone run better and more efficiently.
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if you haven't seen the development section, they accomplished root on the first night, and last night we were able to get past write protection which means custom recovery to flash custom roms and such. Instructions will be posted later today and a "one-click" root method will be posted in about a week or so...
k if only someone in the marketplace was willing to sell their thunderbolt i am so ready to get it and last question i already have unlimited data plans do i need to also sign up for 4g LTE data if there is no 4g in this area
I am coming from a samsung omnia which was a total piece of junk. I think this phone is amazing. Battery life is not so good but I am sure it will get better once I work with it a little more. I am sure I will have a go at rooting it once they get the process more simplified. I cant wait to get some of the bloat off the phone.
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k if only someone in the marketplace was willing to sell their thunderbolt i am so ready to get it and last question i already have unlimited data plans do i need to also sign up for 4g LTE data if there is no 4g in this area
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no, you do not6 need to sign up for a 4G plan if you currently have a unlimited 3G plan. I do not have 4G in my area yet either, was told I would be grandfathered in on the unlimited plan even after 4G rolls out nationwide.
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I am coming from a samsung omnia which was a total piece of junk. I think this phone is amazing. Battery life is not so good but I am sure it will get better once I work with it a little more. I am sure I will have a go at rooting it once they get the process more simplified. I cant wait to get some of the bloat off the phone.
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Haha same here, Blazingwolf's ROM made it much better but after he stopped developing for it I used lioryte's barebones ROM. Sad part is that the Thunderbolt out of the box had better battery life than my Omnia currently does and it was replaced a year ago.
Edit: And no I will not be selling it, I will wait 8mos or so and we'll see. But I think so far other than being short Skype Mobile it's doing what I hoped it would.
I have waited for this phone since aug 2010 .... almost left verizon for the evo even tried to unlock a evo for verizon . i'll be keeping this phone for a while . the only problem is the battery which i solved by getting the extended battery today ..
For me its been worth the wait, I've been running with RIM for the past 3 years and wanted to buy all of the early android phones, but this one fits me the best. I've become anti Moto sin the locked boot loaders and the comments from some of the big wigs of the company, but it looks like HTC wants to get into the locking business too. But definitely loving the Tbolt and rooted and running VirusROM at this time, but I've found myself to be a ROM-aholic so I may jump around.
I had been looking forward to getting a top of the line device for some time and i feel that ive found it with the t-bolt. Already rooted and beyond pleased. Looking forward to digging into it a little deeper
The battery is fine after using titanium backup to freeze all the htc crap in a stock rom, and I'm sure aosp will make things even better.
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I was tempted to take it back as you have a 30 day return policy. Coming from the Incredible I was definitely impressed with the 4g speeds. But with all the "Forced Close" errors, the larger-than-expected form factor, and the lousy battery life I was seriously contemplating sending it back but then I heard that Verizon is going to move to a tiered data plan for the LTE 4G so I thought it better to get a phone and get the unlimited plan now so that when they switch over, I'd be grandfathered in with the unlimited plan.
So I'm keeping it.
Coming from the Nexus S, in some respects, the Bolt is a step backwards for me. Don't get me wrong it's a great device and the speeds of LTE is fantastic. However, super amoled of the NS is much better IMO as is the chipset used (hummingbird). The TB feels quite sluggish in comparison. So in the end LTE just isn't enough for me to keep the device.
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I have waited for this phone since aug 2010 .... almost left verizon for the evo even tried to unlock a evo for verizon . i'll be keeping this phone for a while . the only problem is the battery which i solved by getting the extended battery today ..
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I have had 5 different android phones (X, D2, D1, D2G, DI) and ALL of them needed extra or extended batteries. Even with CM and Tasker.
I too Came from Fascinate And this thing Is alot smoother on browsing and Has Flash 10.2. The 3g speeds seem alot faster than Fascinate and 4g Blows it away. After dowloading an app to turn off 3g/4g Battery life Improves alot. Plus im liking how stock browser lets me switch to desktop only for Browsing and the bigger screen is cool too. not Missing Fascinate at all.
It's a huge upgrade from my Samsung Rogue (lol) so I'm loving mine, and hoping for an easy, relatively safe root before I do anything fancy
Not me ,I love this phone.It is just starting to get good here...
I just wonder how you can aquire a lte sim card cause my personal information is embedded on my sim so thats not going to be included when I sell the phone in 3 years
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About to purchase this phone. How do you guys like it? Is it a good quality device? About to get for one of my family members? Also is the bootloader unlocked? Lol thanks
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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I've had about 12 phones in the last 2-3 years, and the Thunderbolt has been the best phone I've ever owned, development is nuts, not a single problem with it, great performance stock even better rooted/rom'd
I am a recent convert to the Thunderbolt, with a whopping three weeks of ownership.
I originally wanted to support the Sensation on TMobile. But, for various reasons, not the least being the AT&T merger which I suspect will happen (this reducing the quality of TMobile's service, IMHO) and price, I came over to the Thunderbolt and verizon.
Previously I had the Samsung Captivate on AT&T and Evo on Sprint.
It was the commitment and speed of the independent developer community that won me over. The hardware is pretty decent. LTE speeds are extremely impressive when in optimal coverage. Battery is getting better after tweaking the ROM, startup applications and services and usage patterns.
I am definitely happy with it at this time, and upcoming Gingerbread will be very interesting.
Of course, it seems like the Thunderbolt is already being treated as "dated" and something newer and "better" is always around the corner. I would guess that we'll see the $49 price point for new contract in the not too distant future.
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Bootloader is not unlocked. Those phones are not coming out till about Septemberish.
I love my Thunderbolt. No complaints.
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It is unlocked...assuming one has the common sense and patience needed to unlock it through the tutorial stickied in the developer's forum (or one can ask detailed questions that don't involve people having to play 20 questions to help the said person). However, it is not unlocked out of the box or through official channels.
My experience only.
I came over because of an accidental drowning of my Incredible. Honestly, I didn't stay with the Inc2 because I knew we had 4g here and I wanted the speed. I also like HTC phones. I also thought the Bolt would be better.Truth is though, after flashing all the ROMS, I still miss my incredible.
The bolt is a good phone. However, I use my phone for business and reliability is key for me. This phone has been nowhere as reliable as my inc. Random reboots before root and the battery issues since rooting. If it weren't for the Development Community for the Bolt, I would have traded back in for something else. I realize there are plenty of things I could do different to get more battery, but I like 4g, sense 3 elements and GB. I'm stuck with it until Feb. 1, so I will make do until then.
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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Ok so it is unlocked or you can unlock it. Is htc sending out an ota update to unlock the bootloader? I think they are doing it for the sensation sometime mid august. But if you can follow a tutorial and do it yourself. Thats not so bad i guess. Sounds like its a great phone according to all you guys. Was looking at the droid 3 just because it has dual core. But the over all screen and build quality of thunderbolt is so much better im sure. Plus its android
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?????
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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The bootloader does NOT ship unlocked. If you want to root your bolt, the goto the Devs section and follow jcase's tutorial. It's the first sticky.
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That wasn't what the ??? was about. I believe it was about saying "Plus its android"
since both are android phones, heh.
I've been very happy with the Thunderbolt. The first few days on Android with the phone stock I was extremely disappointed with the battery life. So I went to Verizon and ordered the extended battery. I got home from the Verizon store and started playing with my settings. The next day I thought something was wrong with my battery meter because it was lasting so long but nope, battery life really had improved that much.
One of the biggest things I see among people new to the Thunderbolt is the same problem that I had. I was running 4G enabled and there is no 4G in my area yet. It was eating battery searching for a signal that didn't exist. I typed a few numbers into the dialer and it toggled 4G off, that alone doubled battery life.
The developer support is amazing, there is so much going on right now and the full capabilities of this phone have not even been let off the leash. I was new to Android and I unlocked my bootloader and rooted my phone before the sim card arrived that Verizon had to mail. It was completely painless.
Someone more familiar with Verizon will have to let you know about what competition is coming in the next six months and if you should wait for it. With what's available right now, I'd definitely choose the Thunderbolt again.
The Tbolt has its quirks, just like any other phone. The battery life isn't the best, but I think the whole issue has been overhyped. You can expect 8-10 hours with the stock rom & battery with 4G always on and typical usage. You can double that time with a custom rom & kernel. You get even more time with the extended battery. I have really enjoyed my Tbolt and I wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe the SGS2 (only if it gets LTE)
Yeah the guy at the verizon store said my family member should get an iphone4 cause the battery life sucks on tbolt. But whatever so what you buy an extended battery. No biggy. Guy at verizon an apple fan. Lol. Trying to make my family members one of the sheep. F_ck apple!!!!!!
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After being a long time BlackBerry owner, for the better part of a decade. I switched to the Motorola Pro, to have Android and a physical keyboard, and then a month later while adding a line for my wife, I saw the thunderbolt. Having already used my upgrade, I purchased it at full retail price.
Even with paying a little shy of $600 for this phone, I don't regret it one bit. The only complaint I had was the battery life. After rooting, flashing decent ROMS/kernels, and choosing the right settings, battery life has improved signifigantly. And 4G LTE is the best hands down in my opinion. Plus its nice to be able to talk on the phone and surf the web at the same time, which iPhone can't do on Verizon's 3G.
I'd just get the tbolt if I were you. If you don't like it, you have 30 days to exchange it for a different phone.
**Sent from my Ziggy powered Thunderbolt, INFECTED by Synergy, the only Virus that doesn't need a cure!**
Thanks for all the help
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This thread strikes me as being similar to walking into the Corvette museum and asking the guys bumming around in there if the like their cars. I've got 3 gripes. First, I have yet to run a ROM on this thing that didn't have some annoying quirk I just had to live with, the LTE coverage and technology still seems to have some kinks that need ironing out, and for whatever reason my digitizer has come loose on the bottom left side and it clicks when I tap the screen sometimes. I'm thinking super glue if it keeps annoying me. The Samsung Charge is the only other one I'd consider, buy no where near the custom development for it.
So im currently useing the phonton... an i love it, but the truth is im bored with it. I appreaciate all the work the devs do out there an by nomeans am i tryin to rush them. Im 2 days away from my 30 day return window an im gettin antsy an kinda thinkin of swappin for a nexus.... whata you guys think. Should i suck it up an wait for the photon to become a beast or swap for the nexus an flash away.... honest opinions would be great an appreaciated. Thanks
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I wouldn't recommend exchanging it the nexus has a single core no sd card less and slower ram no international capabilities not as hi res screen just to list a couple of reasonto stay
I own a Nexus S too. And I'd say that it's a better device overall even with its single core. What keeps me away from it is exactly your reason of moving away from your Photon - boredom. Have had it for over 6 months. It's old generation hardware already. Wouldn't you rather wait for the Nexus Prime?
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If you trade in at least swap for a newer device that is closer in specs. Have you considered the EVO 3D or Epic Touch 4G? You could easily swap for another 30 days and then again if you wanted the Photon back or another phone. This would give you a month or so to play around.
It boil down to what you want
if your a flash o holic and want to really go to town...why not get a used unlocked GSM development phone put in a prepay sim as a 2nt phone
I would go with the evo 3d if anything. The nexus has been plagued with radio issues. Or just get your upgrade back and wait it out. I used to be a flash a holic as well but I have slowed down a bunch over the years and find myself sticking to roms that are snappy and well build like cm7 or synergy.
Do what you like, I personally would have probably stayed with the evo 3d if the reception and call quality wasn't so poor. No point in a super phone if I roam all the time and drop calls.
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Thanks for the opinions. Im stayin with the photon. Biggest reason ill be stayin is no sd card on the nexus. Thanks guys
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IMO, I would stay away from Samsung. My last Samsung phone was total crap.
I tend to prefer HTC and LG phones. In my past and more recently, HTC and LG have had great support for their phones when I contacted the corporate office.
I am loving my photon and I loved my Motorola flip phone back in the old days (the one with one line display that was red and the phone was very bulky).
I am also not the type of person to root my phone. I place more importance on a working reliable phone then my ability to root and flash new roms. From my understanding, Samsung allows rooting and custom roms more so then Motorola does. I also do not root because I do not want to void my warranty ... I'm too busy with work and school to try and resuscitate my bricked phone. I also do not have $600 laying around to replace my photon if it's dead. I'm happy with changing my wallpaper when I'm in the mood. Also, the photon is the best android phone I've had (had the HTC Eris, craptacular Samsung moment, HTC evo shift, and now the Motorola photon).
Having said all that, I find the photon meets my needs but you will have to figure out what is more important to you.
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I am a flashaholic as well but my main reasons for flashing were to find optimal battery life, and an overall snappy phone. Once I installed decks rom on my EVO I never flashes another rom. The photon has everything I was trying to achieve in the EVO....so I've really had no urge to flash but I know once we get some good roms going, we will be flashaholics again...lol
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same here. i found myself flashin daily to try everything on my evo. reason i did it is bc i wanted a fast and amazing phone. with the flashing, i got tired of always building up the phone again and such. i told myself that the next phone ill get, ill just root it and stick with stock other then maybe the kernel.
been using the mopho and havent had the urge to flash yet. sure undervolting would be nice, but i used setcpu the other day and had the screen off setting at 216/312 and when it was too low to keep pandora from not skippin when screen off. so i dont think id need any more under volting.
i use just juice defender and i get about 16 hours of medium/heavy use till she beeps at me (phone calls, lots of texting, and web browser)
i think this phone has excellent audio and sound. and i havent had the mute phone calls other then day 1. on performance mode and latest updates work well for me. I normally reboot my phone after 3 to 4 days just bc electronics tend to like it. did the same with my evo.
honestly, i dont see any other phone out there that could offer more. a world wide phone like this one. use a phone for what its built for, to stay connected to the world.
if you have the urge to flash, id buy one seperate just for the heck of it to flash and pimp out. im super happy with the mopho so far. love having the best signal around the office compared to everyone else.
Ditto to lroy's statement above.
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.... whata you guys think. Should i suck it up an wait for the photon to become a beast or swap for the nexus an flash away.... honest opinions would be great an appreaciated..
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Wait for the Photon to become a beast? Really? How? It is what it is and will be. As for the Nexus, why would you take a step backwards? Just because you can? There is the Samsung Epic 4G Touch coming out in two weeks. You could take the Photon back, use an old phone for 2 weeks and get the Sammy. Then after a couple of weeks you can take that back and get the iPhone5.
If you are looking for enough people to say "yea do it" go ahead.
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Wait for the Photon to become a beast? Really? How? It is what it is and will be. As for the Nexus, why would you take a step backwards? Just because you can? There is the Samsung Epic 4G Touch coming out in two weeks. You could take the Photon back, use an old phone for 2 weeks and get the Sammy. Then after a couple of weeks you can take that back and get the iPhone5.
If you are looking for enough people to say "yea do it" go ahead.
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Had the epic 4g an no lie smashed it. Hate samsung. An the photon will become a beast, between dedicated devs an the fact google bought motorola. I love the phone its sexyyyy, an comin from an evo runnin cm7 oc, undervolted themed an sooo on i think im just havein flash withdrawls. I will be keepin the photon an as we speak im gettin a second line with a nexus just to hold me over lolol
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im coming from teh nexus, its one of teh better devices out there... HOWEVER with the new nexus due out shortly and the et4g this month there is no reason to get it. if your not happy with the photon now your not going to be.
I've always had an HTC phone for the last four years until I wanted to try out the Epic Touch 4G. First two days, awesome battery life, literally woudl last 1.5 days with use whereas my Evo 4G would struggle with .75days. I decided to root my Epic Touch 4G two days ago and IMMEDIATELY got the infamous loss of service issue. So I'm pretty much ****ed over with two major issues that makes the phone useless. I'm trying some kernels tonight and will see how they work out but I'm ready to come back to HTC, just wanted to know if there are any issues that woudl render the phone useless.
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I've always had an HTC phone for the last four years until I wanted to try out the Epic Touch 4G. First two days, awesome battery life, literally woudl last 1.5 days with use whereas my Evo 4G would struggle with .75days. I decided to root my Epic Touch 4G two days ago and IMMEDIATELY got the infamous loss of service issue. So I'm pretty much ****ed over with two major issues that makes the phone useless. I'm trying some kernels tonight and will see how they work out but I'm ready to come back to HTC, just wanted to know if there are any issues that woudl render the phone useless.
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I've had the 3d Since day one when I switched form the evo 4g. I immediately noticed the battery life out of the box was much better. It would get me through the day and then some. I didn't root it right away but I decided to root a little while ago. I have been running the stock kernel with Virus's Eternity rom and have had no major issues. If you do intend to get the 3d Don't update it if you want to root because the process for the newer bootloader is a little more work than the standard 1.4 bootloader. All in all though I love the phone and have not had any major issues with it.
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I've always had an HTC phone for the last four years until I wanted to try out the Epic Touch 4G. First two days, awesome battery life, literally woudl last 1.5 days with use whereas my Evo 4G would struggle with .75days. I decided to root my Epic Touch 4G two days ago and IMMEDIATELY got the infamous loss of service issue. So I'm pretty much ****ed over with two major issues that makes the phone useless. I'm trying some kernels tonight and will see how they work out but I'm ready to come back to HTC, just wanted to know if there are any issues that woudl render the phone useless.
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Not Really...
I mean there's So Much Development on it that when there's a Issue with something, there's Almost always a Fix not to far behind... I Love it!
No problems with my evo3d.
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I had the epic 4g aswell and so far im loving this phone, the only major issue is the theres no easy way to root this phone. Is much faster than the epic and alot of development unlike the epic 4g it was very hard to find a stable gb rom thats why i was always running froyo on the epic but here man you have many options to choose that is if you have a rooted phone. The only thing i miss about the epic is the camera cant beat the super almoled technology
Just felt like mentioning that you now have another new owner of the Droid Incredible 4G LTE. I finally got it yesterday and am enjoying it greatly. Coming from the original Droid Incredible, this is a huge step up. The slightly larger size takes a little getting used to while typing, though.
I waited for a long time for this phone to come out, and I'm excited to finally have one. Not having posted in a long time on XDA, I decided to get a fresh start with a new account. I've been monitoring the situation with S-OFF on this phone, and can't wait to hear from andy and the S-OFF team that they've achieved it so we who bought the phone more than 2 weeks after it came out can get rooted!
I prefer Sense over stock Android, and with all the barely- or half-completed Sense 2 and 3 ROMs for the Inc, I primarily stuck to using the stock HTC rooted, de-odexed ROMs by wildstang83. Sense 4 is a huge improvement over Sense 1. Also, you have to love Ice Cream Sandwich and its ability to disable all the apps you won't ever use that still take up space (which is a great reason to get rooted, to delete them permanently). The last ROM I sampled from the Inc forum was a very sluggish, not even half-working beta of Jellybean, and while there was no HWA, it was still an interesting experience with Google Now, and I can't wait for the Inc 4G to get Jellybean, though, if it's anything like the timetable on the OG Inc, it will be at least 6 months before the first incremental update (as it was for Eclair to Froyo, and 10 months for a broken version of Gingerbread).
Anyway, all I wanted to say was I'm excited to be here with this community that has worked quite well together this far, and I hope the cooperation continues.
Welcome aboard partner.
Do please post in the 'battery life experiences' thread after you've used your phone for a week or so.
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Great to see ya IceDragon. Have patience with the S-Off situation it'll come eventually. Frankly, I'd run a Stock Inc 4g over just about anything else that is rooted right now. They just perform that well.
If ya need help with anything, just ask.
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Just felt like mentioning that you now have another new owner of the Droid Incredible 4G LTE. I finally got it yesterday and am enjoying it greatly. Coming from the original Droid Incredible, this is a huge step up. The slightly larger size takes a little getting used to while typing, though.
I waited for a long time for this phone to come out, and I'm excited to finally have one. Not having posted in a long time on XDA, I decided to get a fresh start with a new account. I've been monitoring the situation with S-OFF on this phone, and can't wait to hear from andy and the S-OFF team that they've achieved it so we who bought the phone more than 2 weeks after it came out can get rooted!
I prefer Sense over stock Android, and with all the barely- or half-completed Sense 2 and 3 ROMs for the Inc, I primarily stuck to using the stock HTC rooted, de-odexed ROMs by wildstang83. Sense 4 is a huge improvement over Sense 1. Also, you have to love Ice Cream Sandwich and its ability to disable all the apps you won't ever use that still take up space (which is a great reason to get rooted, to delete them permanently). The last ROM I sampled from the Inc forum was a very sluggish, not even half-working beta of Jellybean, and while there was no HWA, it was still an interesting experience with Google Now, and I can't wait for the Inc 4G to get Jellybean, though, if it's anything like the timetable on the OG Inc, it will be at least 6 months before the first incremental update (as it was for Eclair to Froyo, and 10 months for a broken version of Gingerbread).
Anyway, all I wanted to say was I'm excited to be here with this community that has worked quite well together this far, and I hope the cooperation continues.
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welcome to the gang
Welcome!
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Thanks for the warm welcome.