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I don't know what is going on but I started a thread that wasn't needed.
Funny cuz I just post something up similar like a min before u... I hope he does have one or will create one
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add me to googletalk
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Dont use talk much
you have twitter or other?
might just have to use talk if not lol
Talk is nice, you can make a chat room so we can all talk.
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Talk is nice, you can make a chat room so we can all talk.
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Yes, talk we must to clarify things. Because I think I made a wrong turn somewhere and find myself lost.
Yeah wtf happened? Probably nothing you can get into here. Seen this happen to too many good devs, sucks. A lot of us will follow you wherever you land, keep us posted.
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closing this one as there is already another thread on it....
Hi.
Thank you for posting today.
The incidents are being investigated, please be good little trolls and stop creating silly threads like this. This stuff is taken very seriously, I understand you are fan boys, but do us all a favor and drop it for now.
Kthxbye.
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Looks like this Guy looked at 3d as a bonus and didn't let it affect his review. Said battery sucks but other than that he said its a solid phone
http://www.infosyncworld.com/reviews/cell-phones/htc-evo-3d-review/12101.html
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This thread has a creppy similarity to the one below! Search People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128661
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This thread has a creppy similarity to the one below! Search People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128661
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Kill yo self
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This thread has a creppy similarity to the one below! Search People!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1128661
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another double post filled with hate.. would be nice if people did read before posting.. and then not hate on the people who point out that they need to not post another thread that litterally has the same link..
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another double post filled with hate.. would be nice if people did read before posting.. and then not hate on the people who point out that they need to not post another thread that litterally has the same link..
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another double post filled with hate.. would be nice if people did read before posting.. and then not hate on the people who point out that they need to not post another thread that litterally has the same link..
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Its not hate. Its just that if its a double post then say it. No need to put a bunch of "!!!!!!!!" After it like a double post completely ruined his day. Lol. Maybe it did. Who knows. Its not like this is the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. Yea it can get annoying but no need to get gray hairs over it lol
I didn't see the other one. use xda on my phone and didn't see it.
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Its not hate. Its just that if its a double post then say it. No need to put a bunch of "!!!!!!!!" After it like a double post completely ruined his day. Lol. Maybe it did. Who knows. Its not like this is the first time it has happened and it won't be the last. Yea it can get annoying but no need to get gray hairs over it lol
I didn't see the other one. use xda on my phone and didn't see it.
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i agree with you to a point on there.. im not one who likes a lot of punctuation myself.. he may have been just having a bad day, or was just accentuating his point.. so far this 3vo forum is a mess with people hating each other and posting the same thing over and over.. sorry for the hate assumption on my part..
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i agree with you to a point on there.. im not one who likes a lot of punctuation myself.. he may have been just having a bad day, or was just accentuating his point.. so far this 3vo forum is a mess with people hating each other and posting the same thing over and over.. sorry for the hate assumption on my part..
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Its cool. I agree. I wasn't trying to fill the board up with more garbage.
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Kill yo self
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haha took those words right out of my mouth glad some reviewers have some reviewers see the 3D aspect of the EVO as a bonus feature
oh another trainwreck-post filled with trolls; just another day on the 3vo3d forums lol
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oh another trainwreck-post filled with trolls; just another day on the 3vo3d forums lol
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lol don't worry it happens all the time when a new phone is coming out and we all want it, this forum will go back to normal once the phone is out and rooted.
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lol don't worry it happens all the time when a new phone is coming out and we all want it, this forum will go back to normal once the phone is out and rooted.
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Agreed. Its all in good fun. Entertainment until the phone stops.
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Kill yo self
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Seriously dude, I showed you someone already posted this and you tell me to kill myself. I love you internet tough guys. Your just soooooo scary
eman <- goes to hide under a table before the internet tough guy says something really really mean again to prove his manly hood to the internet world.........
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Seriously dude, I showed you someone already posted this and you tell me to kill myself. I love you internet tough guys. Your just soooooo scary
eman <- goes to hide under a table before the internet tough guy says something really really mean again to prove his manly hood to the internet world.........
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really dude? i was being sarcastic. wow.
like we said earlier, you the type to stress over canned goods not facing foward in your cabinet...lifes to short to be checking message boards for duplicate threads and then throwing a tantrum when you find a double post....has nothing to do with being a tough guy, not like i said i was gonna come whoop your ass and hunt you down. gotta love geeks, they make the world go 'round...
I just read another review of a review.
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Cmon people is it any benefit to keeping bumping and Making new threads about this. It's like a F-ing plague!! It's everywhere. Do something about this mods. Pretty please. Like make a sticky or something.I haven't really read any news about the actual 3D in days lol.
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No gmail for invite bro...
oh wait... lol
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Cmon people is it any benefit to keeping bumping and Making new threads about this. It's like a F-ing plague!! It's everywhere. Do something about this mods. Pretty please. Like make a sticky or something.I haven't really read any news about the actual 3D in days lol.
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Want an invite? LMAOOO
You people are too funny, no thanx on invite. On one of the threads (Gene_Bailey)I sent out about a 100. But what do I know huh. Just saying
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Is development dead for the photon???
Wanted to get everyone thoughts. I really like messing with my phones and really thought that this phone would be the titan of customization for sprint. I have been really disappointed!!!
I am thinking about switching to another phone if something doesn't happen quick...
People have familys and jobs. Stuffs coming just be patient.
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vmbgap said:
Is development dead for the photon???
Wanted to get everyone thoughts. I really like messing with my phones and really thought that this phone would be the titan of customization for sprint. I have been really disappointed!!!
I am thinking about switching to another phone if something doesn't happen quick...
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People need to stop making these dumb threads if you can read you can see there is alot of those threads already
Switch to another phone nobody cares
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edward.hidalgo said:
People need to stop making these dumb threads if you can read you can see there is alot of those threads already
Switch to another phone nobody cares
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Agreed... i'm tired of weeding through the junk threads.
Make us all the favor of getting a different phone. Also please do us all a favor and LEARN some forum ethic. You'll make yourself a better person and this place more enjoyable place.
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Don't worry about what we think. We don't care what you do. Get another phone so we don't care have to hear about how disappointed you are. Or you could learn to build your own rom or do like me and learn to theme.
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i personally think yall are going a bit overboard on this poor guy...
Eh......it's not dead. We're getting CM7, have an OC kernal, have a couple ROM's. But....if you want MORE
Try this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsxPfZ76Rrw&list=PL7AA9C38D09F2F2BD&index=1
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But on second thought. I kinda like the phone the way it is, the lack of ten thousand of the same ROM with a different color for the theme is nice. If you REALLY need that, hit up the Evo 3D or the ET4G. Both will suit you PERFECTLY. And also will keep us from having a million of the same ROM's. BUT...if you WANT the Photon. The above link should tell you everything you need to know about building a ROM. And then you can make it ANYWAY you want, and don't have to rely on anyone else. Problem solved for everyone.
Some of you guys take this so personally... lol
I was simply asking a question if you don't like the question stop reading. The funny part is the same people that cried over this thread will comment again with more *****es and complaints. Relax
I would like to learn how to make roms but really don't have time... instead i donate to those making the roms. Those guys do a great job!
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Hmmmm you at least get part of it.
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Some of you guys take this so personally... lol
I was simply asking a question if you don't like the question stop reading. The funny part is the same people that cried over this thread will comment again with more *****es and complaints. Relax
I would like to learn how to make roms but really don't have time... instead i donate to those making the roms. Those guys do a great job!
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Sounds like you need a different phone. This same question has been asked a bunch of times already and the answer has been that the Photon will probably never be as dev rich as phones like the SGS2 and E3D. Most peeps with the Photon are ok with that but for the others that need to flash something new every day/week need to get another device.
The problem with these type of posts is they create more negativity for the Photon which is why some take it personally. We don't like our beloved device (or developers) put in a negative light.
I agree...its not necessary for anyone to be mean because someone ask a question. It is simple enough to go to the next thread. If NO ONE responds, the OP will get the message.
If he just wanted to ask he should had asked SIRI!!:
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I agree...its not necessary for anyone to be mean because someone ask a question. It is simple enough to go to the next thread. If NO ONE responds, the OP will get the message.
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I expect development to pick up once we have a fully unlocked bootloader.
Its kind of pointless to develop a ROM when you can only flash p-ROMs right now.
Well if you use 4G you can only flash P-ROMs.
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I agree...its not necessary for anyone to be mean because someone ask a question. It is simple enough to go to the next thread. If NO ONE responds, the OP will get the message.
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In other news .. I saw our photon being in use on supernatural tonight... .., was awesome...
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That a T.V. show? either way. Awesome. :]
Wow this device is AMAZING!!! It's really fast and I'm getting about 13mbs here in Connecticut. Anyone worried about getting it really shouldn't be. But I noticed my homescreen gets blurry when I go from page to page and its pretty annoying to my eyes. Other than that I'm so excited to start flashing roms on this bad boy!!!
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Yeah i just got my about 30 minutes ago and i love it, so much better than my sensation aha
The only thing I was pretty irritated by when I first got the phone was really just the screen. It blurs when there's motion and if you look closely enough, you can see the pixels. Other than that, I love this phone
Congratulations guys and welcome to the forum.
I'm one of three forum moderators and I dare say the most active.
Please take your time to read through the forums thoroughly and remember to search before posting a new thread.
Those coming from the Sensation please note that this device is NOHTING like the Sensation. ROM, themes, hacks, apps, etc may NOT work with the Amaze 4G.
We have several scripts that will do pretty much all the work for you and hundreds of hours have been dedicated to producing those scripts.
Remember to hit the Thanks button on any post that you find helpful and support your favorite developers (few and the proud).
I am very active in these forums and most would say that I'm very strict. However I also have a dry humor, sarcastic side of me and it's sometimes difficult for new members to tell the difference. So if you think that I'm upset look for one of these little guys. If I'm being sarcastic I'll probably not add one.
Remember there are no such thing as a stupid question. But that's only if the question hasn't been answered. Then it's just a lazy question that hasn't taken it's time to read or search.
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Congratulations guys and welcome to the forum.
I'm one of three forum moderators and I dare say the most active.
Please take your time to read through the forums thoroughly and remember to search before posting a new thread.
Those coming from the Sensation please note that this device is NOHTING like the Sensation. ROM, themes, hacks, apps, etc may NOT work with the Amaze 4G.
We have several scripts that will do pretty much all the work for you and hundreds of hours have been dedicated to producing those scripts.
Remember to hit the Thanks button on any post that you find helpful and support your favorite developers (few and the proud).
I am very active in these forums and most would say that I'm very strict. However I also have a dry humor, sarcastic side of me and it's sometimes difficult for new members to tell the difference. So if you think that I'm upset look for one of these little guys. If I'm being sarcastic I'll probably not add one.
Remember there are no such thing as a stupid question. But that's only if the question hasn't been answered. Then it's just a lazy question that hasn't taken it's time to read or search.
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You are the most active not to mention the most strict lol.
But anyway welcome to the amaze forums!! Where only one dev has the phone and that dev is the most active!! No offense to x lol keep up the good work
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You are the most active not to mention the most strict lol.
But anyway welcome to the amaze forums!! Where only one dev has the phone and that dev is the most active!! No offense to x lol keep up the good work
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Told you all that people think I'm strict.
I'm glad to be apart of it
And eggydrum. I've seen some of your YouTube videos showing off roms, good job, I always look back but u barely update lol. Looking forward seeing more. Sunday is my only day off. Going to try to find time to root this thing
Nice to meet you binary, I've seen u help out sooooo many people. Your hard work doesn't go unnoticed my friend, your probably going to help me out a lot too. So I would like to say thanks ahead of time lol
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I'm glad to be apart of it
And eggydrum. I've seen some of your YouTube videos showing off roms, good job, I always look back but u barely update lol. Looking forward seeing more. Sunday is my only day off. Going to try to find time to root this thing
Nice to meet you binary, I've seen u help out sooooo many people. Your hard work doesn't go unnoticed my friend, your probably going to help me out a lot too. So I would like to say thanks ahead of time lol
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Lololol thanks a lot man!! Im at school and its been a busy semsester but I really want to keep my channel alive
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Lololol thanks a lot man!! Im at school and its been a busy semsester but I really want to keep my channel alive
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Your welcome man, their aren't a lot of people who do Rom reviews, you should definitely try picking up on that
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Your welcome man, their aren't a lot of people who do Rom reviews, you should definitely try picking up on that
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If we had more roms lol. My mom has a g2 but has a phobia of changing roms
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Told you all that people think I'm strict.
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you're not strict you just don't tolerate lazy people!!
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If we had more roms lol. My mom has a g2 but has a phobia of changing roms
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I just came from a g2, I just gave it to my mom lol, I loved xboarders roms for that phone. He's mainly the reason why I got the amaze!
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fuego77 said:
I just came from a g2, I just gave it to my mom lol, I loved xboarders roms for that phone. He's mainly the reason why I got the amaze!
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Hey I just flashed bulletproof v2.2 and I'm gonna post a review on it tomorrow
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Hey I just flashed bulletproof v2.2 and I'm gonna post a review on it tomorrow
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Make sure to post the Youtube video in your post. I'm lazy and don't like clicking links just to open another page.
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Make sure to post the Youtube video in your post. I'm lazy and don't like clicking links just to open another page.
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Lol can I do it in the app?
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Lol can I do it in the app?
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Umm.. I don't think so.
I hate that app anyway. It's fine for people to catch up on the forum while their are waiting for court or at the dmv or whatever... but so many people use that app to do the majority of their xda reading and end up missing like 90% of the content. Then they say "I did read and search but didn't see it" and end up posting in the wrong section. Seriously! Over half of the new posts that I end up deleting all say "Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G" or whatever.
I do it from time to time too but the majority of my posts are from a computer.
However I understand it because the convenience of it. I really do.
That's why I try to come up with ways for people to do things without the use of a computer. Such as the flash_image binary that can flash the kernel without using EKF. Android devices have been using that binary file for years now and I've been trying to push it ever since the Amaze came out. It wasn't until just recently that xboarder decided to put it in his roms.
Point is, if people want to be completely without a pc then why use a pc to flash kernels? Or if they do have access to a pc to flash kernels, why use the XDA app to post their questions? I don't get it.
Yeah really good point binary, going to try to root n flash a Rom soon, I'm about to turn on my pc for the first time in about two months lol
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Umm.. I don't think so.
I hate that app anyway. It's fine for people to catch up on the forum while their are waiting for court or at the dmv or whatever... but so many people use that app to do the majority of their xda reading and end up missing like 90% of the content. Then they say "I did read and search but didn't see it" and end up posting in the wrong section. Seriously! Over half of the new posts that I end up deleting all say "Sent from my HTC Amaze 4G" or whatever.
I do it from time to time too but the majority of my posts are from a computer.
However I understand it because the convenience of it. I really do.
That's why I try to come up with ways for people to do things without the use of a computer. Such as the flash_image binary that can flash the kernel without using EKF. Android devices have been using that binary file for years now and I've been trying to push it ever since the Amaze came out. It wasn't until just recently that xboarder decided to put it in his roms.
Point is, if people want to be completely without a pc then why use a pc to flash kernels? Or if they do have access to a pc to flash kernels, why use the XDA app to post their questions? I don't get it.
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I'm just too lazy to use the pc lol much like you being lazy enough to not want to click a link to go to another link
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I'm just too lazy to use the pc lol much like you being lazy enough to not want to click a link to go to another link
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I just like to stay on one page. I don't like Youtube anyway. Too much junk on there plus I don't like ads. I don't get ads here on XDA (perks of being a mod.)
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I just like to stay on one page. I don't like Youtube anyway. Too much junk on there plus I don't like ads. I don't get ads here on XDA (perks of being a mod.)
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I never have ads. AdBlocker for Firefox
I found this in the E4GT forums but this definitely works for our phones(voice search doesn't seem to be working though)
Enjoy!
http://goo.im/devs/chris41g/GoogleNowICS.zip
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Google Now....now??
Interesting, I'll check this out
Wrong section smart guy. Take it to themes and apps
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Good afternoon. This thread should have been posted in the Themes and Apps section. Not a big deal though. Mistakes happen. Mods would you please be so kind as to move this to the appropriate forums? Thanks for your hard work and dedication.
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Fixed it for ya. :highfive:
Thanks for your contributions to the EVO community OP. It really is appreciated by some of us.
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Wrong section smart guy. Take it to themes and apps
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At least hes contributing,,,Smart Guy!!!,,,Nice find bud Thanks:good:
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Wrong section smart guy. Take it to themes and apps
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It was in android development in E4GT forums thats why I posted here Mr. I think I know everything guy.
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this has been out for the longest while
and whats the use if voice search doesnt work
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Fixed it for ya. :highfive:
Thanks for your contributions to the EVO community OP. It really is appreciated by some of us.
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...he linked to a file that was ripped out of the SDK and uploaded by someone else. He didn't compile it from source or anything. While that's nice of him to link to it here (I guess), it really doesn't belong here.
"Development" forums are pretty self-explanatory; if you made it, it goes here. If you didn't make it, it doesn't go here. We might sometimes be dicks about it but that's usually only because of how confident OPs feel about the fact they're perfectly within their right to put things like this in this section.
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this has been out for the longest while
and whats the use if voice search doesnt work
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Shouldn't you be coding or developing something innovative and new? Stop raining on my parade!
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Shouldn't you be coding or developing something innovative and new? Stop raining on my parade!
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Now you're just being outright rude. It's not "your" parade. You didn't make this. You had no part of any bit of it. You for some reason are behaving as though you just brought us kernel source, but in reality, you simply reposted something that many, many people are already aware of and you had posted it in the wrong forum.
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Now you're just being outright rude. It's not "your" parade. You didn't make this. You had no part of any bit of it. You for some reason are behaving as though you just brought us kernel source, but in reality, you simply reposted something that many, many people are already aware of and you had posted it in the wrong forum.
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Play nice children.
It has been moved to its proper location and I for one do not have time to browse every single section on this site. Thanks for the link!
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Shouldn't you be coding or developing something innovative and new? Stop raining on my parade!
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DELETED!!!
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I feel like the dude was just kidding around, but it was subtle.
Tapatalked from my shiny new HTC Evo LTE
I didn't know about this. Thank you for the link. Don't let other people discourage you from posting usefull topics
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That'll teach you to share again.
Lol
Edit. I didn't know about it either.
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A little unrelated and I'm sorry for that but the evo4glte forums are a little rude and have a minor troll problem compared to everywhere else I've ever been. Lets just appreciate all the development we can get now. Sorry for the rant
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Close this thread,
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Jesus Christ I say smart guy and get blasted? Makes me feel like I should have said something a lot worse.
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A little unrelated and I'm sorry for that but the evo4glte forums are a little rude and have a minor troll problem compared to everywhere else I've ever been. Lets just appreciate all the development we can get now. Sorry for the rant
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I think there are quite a few teens and pre teens "senior members" in these forums, because you are correct.....rudeness is common...sad...coming from the Evo forums, it's certainly a change for the worse.
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I think there are quite a few teens and pre teens "senior members" in these forums, because you are correct.....rudeness is common...sad...coming from the Evo forums, it's certainly a change for the worse.
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Honestly don't think it has to do with age some people are just like that. I can see the confusion between posting here and Dev forum since the original thread was posted in dev forum. Someone corrected OP, now he knows. Lets just move on.
I have had the Google Now for two or three days now and even though it doesn't have Voice, I prefer it over the default search. Before if you wanted to search for something on the web you had to search and then tap on the result and it would open it on your web browser. This actually opens it up right away inline within the app without having to open a web browser. You can then select images, places or your own phone. I think people that are looking away from it simply because it doesn't have voice search should give it another look. Between the cards and the inline searching, it's obviously better.