Love the devs here for our beloved fassy but I really need 4gLTE and being unlimited I have to buy phones at full price. I really need to give up my fassy also for the fact that I miss calls that just go to voice mail. So now the question REZOUND or RAZR? I do like both and feel the rezound may be built a lil better and have a better screen. I also dig the s-off. Any thoughts? I cant afford a s3 now and I dont want to wait...VZW will not give me a replacement even though its been replaced twice!
Hate to say it, but why not just go to Sprint? You'd have unlimited data, 4G LTE, and be able to get the Galaxy 3 with a discount...
Anyway, a quick google search brought up this article that will probably help you make your decision: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-RAZR-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2897
edit: Personally, I'd get the Razr. The display is better (super amoled), it's a lot thinner/lighter, better build quality, and bigger battery.
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Hate to say it, but why not just go to Sprint? You'd have unlimited data, 4G LTE, and be able to get the Galaxy 3 with a discount...
Anyway, a quick google search brought up this article that will probably help you make your decision: http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Motorola-DROID-RAZR-vs-HTC-Rezound_id2897
edit: Personally, I'd get the Razr. The display is better (super amoled), it's a lot thinner/lighter, better build quality, and bigger battery.
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I know I do love my samoled on the fassy and I like not being blasted in the face by the lcd backlight at night! When I looked at the razrs they had a weird green tinge to them that I a lot of people have complained about. Sprint and LTE i thought didnt go togeth4er in the same sentence lol...I dont believe LTE is coming anytime soon where im at in the metro detroit area. I told the CSR on the phone that $210 is cheap for the ECF for VZW and go over to metro pcs with the s3 and LTE!
As a person who made the move from Fascinate to Razr Maxx; please do not get the Razr/Maxx. Why not just go with a used VZW SGS3? My brother has the Rezound and he figures it loses about 1% battery per minute the screen is on at 30% battery regardless of what activity he is doing and the locked bootloader on the Razr along with one weird recovery makes it a jarring transition from Fascinate to Razr.
Definitely go with the rezound. Work on aosp is coming along nicely and is pretty close to being stable. The rezound has better specs by far, the screen resolution is amazing on it.
yeah for the price(rezound) $175 its a good bargain I basically want a cheap 4glte phone until the price drops on the gs3. I think that will pretty soon when all the new motos drop and the new iphone5 and nokia...Orig i wanted a nexus but the reception issues are a deal breaker for me.
How much is the Razr? If you haven't watched the video comparison of the 2 phones at the end of that review I linked, I strongly suggest you do because the HTC looks really bad... at least to me. The better resolution doesn't matter much when the screen is all muddled and dark
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How much is the Razr? If you haven't watched the video comparison of the 2 phones at the end of that review I linked, I strongly suggest you do because the HTC looks really bad... at least to me. The better resolution doesn't matter much when the screen is all muddled and dark
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It looked like there was a weird glare on the rezound's screen, or the brightness was turned down too low.
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yeah for the price(rezound) $175 its a good bargain I basically want a cheap 4glte phone until the price drops on the gs3. I think that will pretty soon when all the new motos drop and the new iphone5 and nokia...Orig i wanted a nexus but the reception issues are a deal breaker for me.
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The rezound is only $100 on amazon, so you could get it for even cheaper. Have you held the gs3? The bigger size (width, not thickness) could be a factor, but not for most people.
It's definitely not bad. I got a chance to go hands-on with the G3 at work as I convinced a buddy of mine to get it. It is big, don't get me wrong, but not so big as you feel like you're holding a tablet or something. The fact that it's so thin is mostly why it doesn't feel ridiculous, because if it was bulky like the iphone it would be a different feel entirely. It's really too bad that Verizon doesn't have a version of the One X because that's pretty much the only other phone that can hold a candle to how nice the G3 is. Also, why not consider getting a used Galaxy S2? That phone is still really really nice...
teh s3 is legit!
No I cant upgrade my phone because of unlimited data on VZW so I'm stuck with buying a phone off craigslist or ebay. I might just get a rezound with a broken screen or something they are really cheap to fix. I'm basically just wanting a 4glte phone to hold me over until the s3 drops in price. Ive held the s3 its perfect in my hand.
Damn man, how much data do you use? I'm constantly on my phone browsing and watching youtube, and yet when I see what I used it's always under 2GB (their lowest tier data plan now). I'm on unlimited data now myself, but considering how it all pans out I won't really care when they take it away from me... but I guess it would be different if I needed my phone for a tether or something
seriously between 30-40GB per month! I dont have home internet...Thats all 3g too! I cant wait to start burning up some 4glte LOL!
Alright I guess I can see how you wouldn't want to drop that unlimited if you use that much But just be careful when you're on 4G, they say that Verizon throttles it's top 5%
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Alright I guess I can see how you wouldn't want to drop that unlimited if you use that much But just be careful when you're on 4G, they say that Verizon throttles it's top 5%
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LOL Ive been throttled one month. It actually isnt bad they only target torrenting traffic which is cured with some hiding and encryption settings in uttorent! VZW only throttles that not radio or video apps or web browsing! I also think its only for 3g as their LTE is just for data so its not an issue.
There are folks still upgrading and keeping unlimited data...you might have to haggle with vzw, but I bet you can get it done!!
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Given same costs, which would you prefer?
I originally wanted to go to the Sensation, and I waited for it. But, lukewarm initial reviews, $5 more a month for a limited 2GB data cap (vs unlimited and LTE on VZW), and a more active development community with the Thunderbolt convinced me to change my order to VZW.
However, considering the terrible battery life of the Thunderbolt, the fact that I don't get LTE in my office or at home (1x and 3G are my normal connections), and the Tbolt being slightly inferior in the hardware department, I am thinking that i should switch back to the Sensation idea. I get 20% discount with Verizon, versus 12% on Tmobile.
I want to trust that upcoming Gingerbread ROMs for Thunderbolt will result in a better product on a faster network. I'm just somewhat underwhelmed with the Tbolt after a week.
Thoughts?
personally, i would look at it like this
1. what carrier has stronger signal strength where you are
2. LTE vs Hardware. your either going to get amazing download and upload speeds when LTE finally rolls out in your area and imo its amazing + its unlimited if you are grandfathered in; or you can get slightly improved specs which honestly, wont really matter in day to day usage. The only differences you'll really see are when you play high end games or something like that.
3. Which phone has a more developed community. As far as i know, the thunderbolt has a huge community just like the original incredible. Even now, after so many years the incredible is still getting roms. I saw a sense 3.0 rom on an incredible!
sooo up to you lol. your going to be using the phone not me :]
You know I was at the same exact crossroads. I just came off of my 2 year contract with T-Mobile and I was pondering buying the Sensation or switching to Verizon (which has much better coverage in my area). I like the Sensation just a tad better due to its dual core processor and how much shimmer it is. This goes without saying, the Sensation is one sexy phone. It all came down to the carrier for me. In my house I would average 1-2 bars. So I went with VZW and the Thunderbolt. Honestly I love the Thunderbolt. It's great. For you, I would say go with the carrier that has better service in your area which I believe is safe to say Verizon.
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if you don't get Ltd where you are most I would go with the sensation
Yeah, it is completely a coin toss. Look at the development community here vs. Sensation, the Tbolt is much more active.
Considering the hell that an AT&T buyout would bring to Atmosphere, I'd be far happier stuck on VZW for two years.
If I can just work around this battery misery, I think the Tbolt will be fine.
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Yeah, it is completely a coin toss. Look at the development community here vs. Sensation, the Tbolt is much more active.
Considering the hell that an AT&T buyout would bring to Atmosphere, I'd be far happier stuck on VZW for two years.
If I can just work around this battery misery, I think the Tbolt will be fine.
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Im getting about 8-10 hrs. on mine right now
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Sensation looks pretty sweet. If Verizon had it in their line up it would be a top choice.
Agreed with everybody else. Depends on the carrier. If no LTE get the sensation.
T-Mobile will throttle down your data after you hit the 2GB ceiling, get Verizon before the 7th of July and you're locked in with unltd data with no cap or throttle, be it 3G or LTE. Even if you don't have LTE yet, you will eventually. The majority of features on a smartphone use network data, so all the memory and processing power technology has to offer means absolutely **** when your data stinks.
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If you don't get LTE in your area, download LTE On/Off or a similar program and switch to CDMA Auto. This will greatly improve your battery life.
I would take a not-so-hot device on Verizon's 4G any day over a "hot device" on a non Verizon carrier any day!!
Plus, the TB is definitely hot
Let me offer my feelings, because I have just completed the exact same journey you are embarking on, meaning I had a Sensation on Tmo, and just witched to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Here are my impressions:
HTC Sensation 4G:
I used to be on my company's corporate plan with blackberrys but recently accepted a new job, which allowed me to get whatever phone/carrier I wanted. I had used Tmobile years ago and did the whole HTC HD2 custom ROM thing and had a really good time with it. The sensation always claimed to be on 4g mode and I got relatively good speeds. I could always stream music/videos without any delay, and Speedtest would report about 3mbps on average, with a peak of 8 on a couple of occasions. Coverage was excellent & no dropped calls.
The phone itself is a work of art. It's very light, had outstanding battery life under heavy usage, and Sense 3.0 is beautiful. The tweaked functionality of the camera app among other things was nice. My favorite feature of course being free built in hotspot/tethering. However something was missing.
I really missed the screensize of the HD2. While both are 4.3" diagonal, the S4G has a higher aspect ratio, so the phone is actually skinnier. I didnt like this. I really liked how readable text was on my HD2, and the proximity of icons/buttons when texting were. All in all, the HD2 was simply the perfect size for me.
Then I went to a VZW store and made then unbox a thunderbolt for me so I could try it out without those security wires attached to it. I immediately fell in love and knew within seconds that this was the phone for me. I ran out the buyers remorse period on tmobile just to make sure, and finally made the switch on Monday! I cant tell you how pleased I am. The phone just feels right in my hands.
Every time I used the S4G I was constantly judging it for its screensize. This was a huge bummer, because I could never enjoy the phone. Every time I picked it up all I could think about was how much more smushed and how much scrolling I needed to do to get the same screen real estate visible on the Thunderbolt.
Thoughts on the Thunderbolt:
People arent lying, the battery life is borderline abysmal, but this is actually fine with me since I work behind a desk. I am actually charging it via USB as we speak. I'll probably also plug it into my car charger so it's boosted by the time I get home. I seem to get about 4-6 hours of heavy usage out of it (I was recording myself giving seminars this morning, then surfing all through lunch using the kickstand). I dont mind the battery life since I can easily keep it juiced, but I would NEVER recommend this phone for anyone on the go.
The only thing I actually dont like is how bulky the phone is. Even my HD2 was slimmer/lighter. Maybe its the LTE modem, or maybe it's the kickstand, but the phone feels fat in my hand. In fact, I've basically traded one nuisance for another, nagging on the S4G due to size, and nagging on the TB due to weight. Time will tell if I begin to regret my decision, but I think the other benefits will make up for it.
On TMO, within my first week on the S4G I had already used 1gb. Granted I was playing around with it a bit more than usual, but still. I think we're all gonna hit 2GB a lot sooner than we realize, and the carriers on banking on this (hence the reason they made them). Having 100% unlimited grandfathered 4G with the TB was probably my second biggest selling point. I dont like using a phone and constantly checking the MyAccount app, or 3g watchdog to determine how close I am to running over. It kinda sours the whole experience. With the TB I can just kick back relax and know I'll never be bothered with it.
And speaking of bulk/kickstand issues, I just want to say how AWESOME this kickstand is. I am constantly using it (even though it's only been 3 days lol). I love being able to stand it up and flick through web pages with 1 finger while I eat a sandwich or pasta or something at work. I'm really shocked they arent doing this will all their phones now.
Oh yeah, one other thing, performance. Believe it or not, but the TB actually feels snappier to me running Froyo than the S4G. Dual core or not, the S4G's framerate when switching homescreens always had a little choppiness to it. This really blows and feels like you're using a bogged down phone. The TB always has wonderfully smooth transitions. Obviously this is due to lack of 3d fx, but I'd rather have a smooth simply interface than a clunky advanced one. The only feature of Sense 3.0 I actually used was the lockscreen widget. It's pretty hand to be able to open emails/sms messages from here, but it really only saves you from 1 extra step when you use a standard lockscreen. All the other upgrades apps were pretty useless. Yeah the new weather widget is awesome and I would just stare and stare at it for minutes at a time. That was on my first day. On the 2nd day I never even noticed it. I even used the weather as my wallpaper, and still I didnt notice it.
P.S. I was really nervous about this whole ATT thing too. ATT has given some blanket statement that existing 4g users on Tmo's network will be "given an opportunity to upgrade" or something along those lines. Basically you WILL have to get a new phone eventually. LTE is NOT what Tmo is using, and ATT wants that spectrum baaaaad. Believe me, once it's theirs they are going to use it, and completely redeploy it for real 4G as they can. If you're LUCKY, they MIGHT do it in a series of phaseouts, letting users of phones like the S4G exhaust their contracts before each little piece of spectrum is gobbled up and transformed into LTE space. And thats assuming they're going to play nice, and since when has ATT ever played nice? ATT is always the first carrier to impose some asinine rules or restrictions on their services. They are the last company I would trust to be fair and not just force me to renew my contract in 13 months or be dumped to 2g speeds forever.
Hope that helps!
Verizon + Unlimited 4G LTE on the Thunderbolt can't be beat.
Thank you very much for taking the time to write that up, RunNGun!
You've hit upon many of my concerns and observations. I was actually thinking that the Sensation's aspect ratio difference and smaller size would be a positive for me. the Thunderbolt with a silicone bumper case feels as massive as the old Apple Newton I had in 1994.
But, I'm a relatively substantial guy at six feet and 215lbs, so it's not overwhelmingly large. I think that the 4" AMOLED of the Samsung Galaxy S line is the sweet spot for me. but, when I had one on AT&T, I returned it within three weeks. And I am glad that I did.
I'm getting about the same battery that you are. I also have USB at work and chargers all over the house, cars and motorcycles so I'm quite covered for applying power. I might get 8 hours on the stock battery, with wifi off and green power on.
I'm holding off the root and flash until I am out of return period and whatever upgrade that may come has been seen. I did port over my TMobile number that I've had since 1998, so I am pretty much sold on the Tbolt. i did a Speedtest in the car at a stoplight the other day and got 30mbit! And, I've already burned through 5+ Gigs of data just letting the bloatware do its thing and playing some Pandora.
I had a very good experience with Tmobile on my old Nokia 5800. But that sucked so badly for data services, that i only had text and voice on it. However, i could always make a call, where my GF on iPhone 4 has about a 50/50 chance of getting service or an inbound call.
I've also had good experiences with VZW in the past, but CDMA is such dead tech, it is hard to buy into it in 2011. I'd prefer a true world phone for my travels.
Cheers again for a great synopsis.
So you got the TB then? I have to agree with you about CDMA, but with a carrier as big and powerful as VZW I guess it doesnt really matter, they've certainly proven that it is a reliable platform and they can do great things with it. I wish I could use my phone overseas too, but at least I'll always have my wife's HD2 which is GSM for those occasions.
BTW I forgot to mention that my battery life is stifled from use of bluetooth a lot. I basically leave bluetooth on 24/7, GPS too, even though I'm not really using GPS that much. I dont actually shut off the radio. WiFi is always off. The first day I actually got 12 hours out of it before charging, because I was just too busy to play with it. Hard to say what my ultimate average will really be.
Currently with Sprint and have an EVO 3D. Really thinking about switching now that Verizon's offering 4GB for $30. Is the Droid RAZR as cool as it seems? Any comparisons to the Evo/Evo 3D? Thanks.
I just made the switch from the Evo 3D (had an Evo 4G before that) for the same reasons. Things I've noted:
Negative first:
- For me at least, the RAZR does have shorter battery life than the 3D. It appears to have some idle issues. Using the "smart" actions helps this, but I'm still not 100% satisfied relative to the Evo3D.
- I somewhat miss Sense on the 3D although I think the RAZR is smoother with less lag
Positives:
- Hardware is very nice. I really like the lighter weight and reduced thickness
- For my area at least, Verizon's network is a huge improvement. 3G is much faster and of course I have very fast 4G now
- Radios are better. Wifi has better range and I think the cell radio is better also. I was using the Verizon PRL hack on my Evo3D previously and it didn't perform as well as the RAZR on Verizon
Overall I'm very happy with the change, although a big part of that is just getting off of Sprint's worthless network. The only real complaint is the battery life issue and not everyone seems to be experiencing it, so YMMV. It's not horrible either. With light/moderate use I can get 10-15 hours. Basically a full day.
I'm also thinking of switching from my 3D to the Razr. With Amazon's $0.01 on new contract deal and the double data promotion, I'm very tempted. My only hesitation is whether or not to wait for the Nexus. Is the Razr worth getting or should I wait for the Nexus?
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I just made the switch from the Evo 3D (had an Evo 4G before that) for the same reasons. Things I've noted:
Negative first:
- For me at least, the RAZR does have shorter battery life than the 3D. It appears to have some idle issues. Using the "smart" actions helps this, but I'm still not 100% satisfied relative to the Evo3D.
- I somewhat miss Sense on the 3D although I think the RAZR is smoother with less lag
Positives:
- Hardware is very nice. I really like the lighter weight and reduced thickness
- For my area at least, Verizon's network is a huge improvement. 3G is much faster and of course I have very fast 4G now
- Radios are better. Wifi has better range and I think the cell radio is better also. I was using the Verizon PRL hack on my Evo3D previously and it didn't perform as well as the RAZR on Verizon
Overall I'm very happy with the change, although a big part of that is just getting off of Sprint's worthless network. The only real complaint is the battery life issue and not everyone seems to be experiencing it, so YMMV. It's not horrible either. With light/moderate use I can get 10-15 hours. Basically a full day.
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I switched from the Evo 4G on Sprint to the Razr on Verizon and I agree with everything above. The Evo was great - the Razr is better. But the big difference is how much better the Verizon network is compared to the crappy and unreliable Sprint network. It's just gotten terrible in the last year.
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I'm also thinking of switching from my 3D to the Razr. With Amazon's $0.01 on new contract deal and the double data promotion, I'm very tempted. My only hesitation is whether or not to wait for the Nexus. Is the Razr worth getting or should I wait for the Nexus?
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Well you know you're going to get about a dozen opinions on that question.
My reasoning, which is not 100% based on fact, is IMO Motorola has some of the best radios and fringe reception was very important to me. I've also had some so-so experiences with Samsung which turned me off from the Nexus. But getting ICS and less bloatware, more pure Android would be nice. Just depends on what is most important to you. I have a friend that has the Epic 4G Touch on Sprint and is very happy with it (except for Sprints god forsaken network of course).
And I'm really jealous I missed the $.01 deal...
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Well you know you're going to get about a dozen opinions on that question.
My reasoning, which is not 100% based on fact, is IMO Motorola has some of the best radios and fringe reception was very important to me. I've also had some so-so experiences with Samsung which turned me off from the Nexus. But getting ICS and less bloatware, more pure Android would be nice. Just depends on what is most important to you. I have a friend that has the Epic 4G Touch on Sprint and is very happy with it (except for Sprints god forsaken network of course).
And I'm really jealous I missed the $.01 deal...
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Just be careful to base your decision on more than software availability. ICS will come to every top tier phone, just be patient. Hardware should drive your choice; if you like the h/w, then get the phone, cuz h/w is the bottom line. No os or ota revision can completely eclipse the actual physical capability of the device.
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i also swapped from the Evo3D to the RAZR.. it's an awesome improvement. i used to think sense was great but the RAZR's UI is sooo smooth and the screen looks amazing compared to the 3vo.. not to mention the network, it's not even comparible.. i don't know how i lasted so long on sprint lol.. the look and feel of the phone is badass too..
definitely a good switch IMO
Well I still have sprint (just cant get over the unlimited data) and Have the epic 4g touch but I had an Evo 4g, and then a Evo 3d so I think I can chime in on this. Im one of what seems like only a few who loved the Evo 3d which to me the only problem I had with it was the thickness and weight. The Razr is light and thin and smooth but dont think that your going to notice a performance boost from the hardware alone, cause you wont.
Now network performance is another thing up until recently sprint had great reception for me but lately, its horrible and I know towards the end of next year and the next they will have completely changed the network and will have one of if not the best network out. But lets face it we pay our bill every month and lets just say in this instance time is most definetly money.
So to recap
Pros
Thin-Smooth-dual core- Will def see ICS sooner than later-NETWORK
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No ICS currently-almost no development support as of now-camera
Get the phone you'll love it. And if your like me and getting it for .01 its a no brainer. Your practically getting the same phone as the Galaxy Nexus -ICS.
I did the $0.01 Amazon deal and ordered the RAZR today... I'm switching from Sprint and the Evo 4G. I just got so fed up with Sprint's crappy network. I go visit my mom (where I originally bought the Evo), and I have zero reception. I go to visit my dad who lives near a major city, and I have zero reception and have to charge my phone 3-4 times a day because of it unless I put it into airplane mode. Ridiculous. I was a little late placing my order today, so the phone is on back order until December 8. I'll update with my initial reactions in a couple weeks.
EDIT: Oh, and charging it 3-4 times a day because of crappy reception is with an extended battery, too!
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Well you know you're going to get about a dozen opinions on that question.
My reasoning, which is not 100% based on fact, is IMO Motorola has some of the best radios and fringe reception was very important to me. I've also had some so-so experiences with Samsung which turned me off from the Nexus. But getting ICS and less bloatware, more pure Android would be nice. Just depends on what is most important to you. I have a friend that has the Epic 4G Touch on Sprint and is very happy with it (except for Sprints god forsaken network of course).
And I'm really jealous I missed the $.01 deal...
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You didn't miss it, it's on til the 28th! I got mine for a penny, got it delivered the next day for free, and I couldn't be happier! I switched from Sprint (OG EVO-> EVO 3D-> Photon) because their CS SUCKS. After 6 EVOs (4 for me, and 2 for my fiancée after I upgraded) and nothing offered but crappy refurbished phones and insults, with no way to escalate issues, it was time to go.
I really loved my Photon, but after their CS made my fiancée cry, it was time to go.
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE my RAZR! It's like my Photon, but WAY FASTER! I'm only 3 days in, and the first day, I had some worries about battery life after it dropped from 100% to 70% after an hour or 2, but I was patient, and knew that it takes a few days for everything to settle in, and OS, UI & kernels to play well together. Yesterday, I got exactly 11 hours out of it with HEAVY usage.
I'm not a big fan of Blur, but after setting everything up the way I like (LP pro, widgets, and junk), it's amazing! Looking forward to ICS early next year, too!
My opinion may be biased, since instead of hunting down the CS rep that made my lady cry, I dumped them, but either way, I'm happy!
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My contract with Verizon ended yesterday so now I'm month to month on my unlimited data plan for my wife and I. I'm really having a hard time deciding what my next phone will be. We're both still rocking the OG Droid, and while Verizon has its holy trinity of new phones out now, each one of them has things about it that turn me off, so I've been having a hard time picking which one to go with.
Meanwhile, Amazon has its penny pincher sale going on and I'm really tempted to just get a Galaxy S2. It's not a perfect phone either, but it has more of the total package for me than any other phone right now and to get 2 of them basically for free is hard to pass up. I keep playing with it at Best Buy and going back to the ridiculously gorgeous screen and insane performance. I'd also be able to save a little money monthly as I could get a plan with fewer minutes on AT&T due to the unlimited mobile to any mobile package they have.
With that said it'd tough to justify leaving Verizon. Their service has been incredibly reliable for me over the last two years, and unlimited data is tough to give up. Looking at my usage over the last few months it looks like I don't ever use much more than a gig of data on either line, but part of that is b/c my Droid sucks for any kind of multimedia and VZW's 3G is pretty slow. I think I could manage with the 2 gigs on each line, but I hate to give up unlimited on general principle. I'm also worried that AT&T's coverage won't be as reliable as VZW's, although I do like that their 3G speeds are much better so it wouldn't be the all or nothing type performance that VZW's cdma/LTE combo gives.
Has anyone else made this kind of switch, and does anyone think it's a good move or should I just stick with VZW?
For what it's worth I live in the Denver area so if there's anyone on here in that area I'd love to hear your thoughts on AT&T's coverage.
Why don't you wait a few more days and check out the Galaxy Nexus?
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Why don't you wait a few more days and check out the Galaxy Nexus?
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Well I believe Amazon's 1 cent sale only runs through Monday, so if I was going to pull the trigger on a switch I'd like to do it while I can get the GS2 basically for free.
As for the Nexus, I'm sure the user experience is going to be amazing on it and the screen is probably killer as well, but lack of an SD slot and kind of an average camera for such a high end phone has kind of turned me off to it. Eventually I'll get ICS on whatever phone I get, but I won't be able to improve the hardware of whatever phone I get.
The phone that I like best of the big 3 on Verizon is the Rezound actually. The screen is very nice and it has all the features I want. I expect it to be a beast when it gets rooted. With that said, the GS2 is just such a smooth phone.
I was thinking the opposite ..would it be stupid to leave at&t on unlimited w/ gs2 still within 30 days return and head to Verizon. :/
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The iPhone 2 trick still gives any at&t user unlimited data for $30 a month.
I completely understand what you mean about the selection at Verizon though. Their phones are just not competative.
I have a few friends that were really looking forward to getting the sgsii when if came to Verizon. They were all mad when it came out that Verizon turned down the offer of getting the sgsii. Sure the nexus will be going there first, but it's not mind blowing. Really thought google would've went above and beyond with 'their' phone.
I've really been loving this phone. I waited 1 1/2 years to get this phone. Not this particular phone, but one that had all the high points. Fast dual core, 1gb ram, great screen, nfc, solid dev support. While I'm sad it didn't come with an FM radio, I really couldn't ask for anything more out of this phone.
In my opinion, if you don't go for this phone, wait for the quad cores. They'll be coming somewhat soon. I can't see any reason to go with another phone (with the exception of the Samsung note, but I know I'd use that screen size for my work).
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The iPhone 2 trick still gives any at&t user unlimited data for $30 a month.
I completely understand what you mean about the selection at Verizon though. Their phones are just not competative.
I have a few friends that were really looking forward to getting the sgsii when if came to Verizon. They were all mad when it came out that Verizon turned down the offer of getting the sgsii. Sure the nexus will be going there first, but it's not mind blowing. Really thought google would've went above and beyond with 'their' phone.
I've really been loving this phone. I waited 1 1/2 years to get this phone. Not this particular phone, but one that had all the high points. Fast dual core, 1gb ram, great screen, nfc, solid dev support. While I'm sad it didn't come with an FM radio, I really couldn't ask for anything more out of this phone.
In my opinion, if you don't go for this phone, wait for the quad cores. They'll be coming somewhat soon. I can't see any reason to go with another phone (with the exception of the Samsung note, but I know I'd use that screen size for my work).
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^ What he said.
What is the "iPhone trick" you speak of?
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Still works. Just did it the other day. Search eBay for unlimited att.
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Well there was a thread on it but either it's been deleted or I just can't find it.
By putting your sim card into an Iphone 2 it force upgrades your plan to unlimited. Part of how that phone was designed. There's a few more steps than that but the rest can be found by searching google, and if the other thread was deleted I don't want to be the cause of this thread getting removed.
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Well there was a thread on it but either it's been deleted or I just can't find it.
By putting your sim card into an Iphone 2 it force upgrades your plan to unlimited. Part of how that phone was designed. There's a few more steps than that but the rest can be found by searching google, and if the other thread was deleted I don't want to be the cause of this thread getting removed.
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Was also going to mention the iPhone trick. The SGS 2 is a really nice phone. I had the I9100. Two of my friends have the ATT version and they are identical except the domestic version doesn't have the physical home button. There is even a hack to get I9100 rome on the ATT version now.
If you can get that phone for a penny it is definitely a good deal. Head over to the xda marketplace and see if there is an OG iPhone available. Several of the regulars have them.
The best thing about ATT is that you can swap phones at anytime...if you're a phone whore like me that's a big deal
Good luck bro!
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I would for sure reccomend this phone. I came from a dumbphone to this, so anything was better, but everything you talked about liking is exactly why this phone rocks. I picked mine up at radio shack for $50 but that was because I only had an upgrade. I still feel like I got a steal. Pull the trigger!
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The phone itself is AMAZING, but I don't know if I could recommend it enough to leave unlimited data. My personal 2 cents.
I would see how att's coverage is in your area. Every place is different. Here it's about the same as Verizon but i know plenty of places where it is not. Verizon's 3g is God awful, but their lte is so bad ass. Unlimited data is not an issue as others have mentioned. Good luck
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This phone is the best. I went to this phone from a Verizon galaxy s. I still have my Verizon account though. And am going back as soon as galaxy nexus comes out. And I think galaxy s2 may just be better. But......att is not as good as Verizon. Their data speed tests about twice as fast Verizon but ping is twice as slow. So in actuality they are pretty close in speed. That is until Lte. And 3g here drops off once you leave main cities. On Verizon 3g is everywhere. I really miss Verizon and can't wait til galaxy nexus comes out. I just ordered a rezound for my girlfriend so I'm gonna use that til gnex and let her use the sgs2. And I really love this phone. It perfect. But not worth att. Also since switching I have noticed call quality go down and more dropped calls. Not that anyone really uses the phone anymore. My mom got a thunderbolt and Lte is nice. Quick tests I got 100 ping and 9 down and 6 up. So yeah. Stay with Verizon. They really are better. Even if att has the best phone. And I'm really disappointed with the gnex. Camera seems to be a flop and I think anything bigger than the sgs2 is too big. There are many times I have to stretch my fingers to the top. Not bad but this is the limit. This is all from a heavy user.
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This phone is the best. I went to this phone from a Verizon galaxy s. I still have my Verizon account though. And am going back as soon as galaxy nexus comes out. And I think galaxy s2 may just be better. But......att is not as good as Verizon. Their data speed tests about twice as fast Verizon but ping is twice as slow. So in actuality they are pretty close in speed. That is until Lte. And 3g here drops off once you leave main cities. On Verizon 3g is everywhere. I really miss Verizon and can't wait til galaxy nexus comes out. I just ordered a rezound for my girlfriend so I'm gonna use that til gnex and let her use the sgs2. And I really love this phone. It perfect. But not worth att. Also since switching I have noticed call quality go down and more dropped calls. Not that anyone really uses the phone anymore. My mom got a thunderbolt and Lte is nice. Quick tests I got 100 ping and 9 down and 6 up. So yeah. Stay with Verizon. They really are better. Even if att has the best phone. And I'm really disappointed with the gnex. Camera seems to be a flop and I think anything bigger than the sgs2 is too big. There are many times I have to stretch my fingers to the top. Not bad but this is the limit. This is all from a heavy user.
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Thanks for the honest response. I'm still on the fence about what to do.
Unlimited data plans are hard to come by these days.
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Thanks for the honest response. I'm still on the fence about what to do.
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I did this very thing. No regrets. I never used a lot anyways, so goodbye Verizon. I now have 2 S2s
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Depends on your area I guess. Does Verizon have more of a reliable coverage area for you, or does AT&T?
Also, how much data do you and your wife consume? If not a whole lot, 2GB may be fine for you until you do the iphone trick. If you do use a lot of data, then having unlimited already with Verizon might be a dealbreaker for you.
Remember, new phones are always coming out. Just because Verizon dosent have any phones that you REALLY like right now dosent mean that they wont have any next month or after the first of the year.
Iphone 2g tricks is the way to go with att. Did it myself and hooked up my friends do. Still works ;-)
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My 2cents is stay with the unlimited, regardless of the phone most likely you will be tempted to eat through data
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Getting this phone in a couple of days. How much do you guys love this phone?!?! I'm switching from t-mobile to Verizon, so hopefully this phone will spank my old rooted mytouch 4g (which I know will)
ive had mine for about 3 months now and i was a motorola guy but i gotta admit the rezound is nice. even before i unlocked the bootloader it seemed to be smooth for transitions and loading apps/games. but ever since i unlocked it and currently running RezRom 3.1 i must say im very glad with my purchase. battery life is actually decent for a LTE phone but i only run a music widget and not much else on the homescreens. enjoy your new phone.
Thanks for the fast reply, but yea I can't go outside of HTC. I have played with moto and Samsung phones and they just seem too buggy for me
This is BY FAR, the best phone I have ever had And I have been a VZ customer for years.
This phone has a very strong antenna. While driving on a highway I pickup almost all the wifi signals. 4G is very strong. My uploads in 4G are actually double my wifi - simply amazing.
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This is BY FAR, the best phone I have ever had And I have been a VZ customer for years.
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This.
The only thing I would change about it would be make it a non-removable battery and make it huge like the RAZR MAXX. The extended battery ruins the feel of the phone IMO.
I actually LIKE the feel of the extended battery better.
It fits my hand better and makes it easier to hold.
This is the first Phone I've had where the extended batt still looks like the stock battery.
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I actually LIKE the feel of the extended battery better.
It fits my hand better and makes it easier to hold.
This is the first Phone I've had where the extended batt still looks like the stock battery.
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I agree 100%. I bought the extended battery and love it. It feels better, and at least doubles the battery life. This is by far my favorite phone.
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I actually LIKE the feel of the extended battery better.
It fits my hand better and makes it easier to hold.
This is the first Phone I've had where the extended batt still looks like the stock battery.
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I agree 100%. I bought the extended battery and love it. It feels better, and at least doubles the battery life. This is by far my favorite phone.
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Perfect example if to each their own, that's cool though that you guys like it better, I wish I could use them, I would love to extra batt life.
I don't regret trading my gnex for rezound, some ppl think I was crazy.
ditto what everyone else has said. i have the extended battery as well and like how it feels in my hand as well. i actually tried to return this to get the razr maxx, but glad they wouldn't let me.
Best phone I have had.... So far...
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Best.Phone.Ever! I have owned Motorolas, Samsungs and HTC's. I am never leaving HTC again.
This is definitely the best phone I've ever owned. I had a Samsung Captivate on ATT and thought it was great aside from the terrible GPS. I truly loved that phone and hated to part with it but needed to sell it so I could afford to switch from ATT to Verizon. I was going to get a Galaxy Nexus (partially because I liked by Captivate so much and partially because of ICS) but decided to go with the Rezound after playing with a friend's (and the fact that it was $100 cheaper didn't hurt either). Honestly, I had no regrets at the time and I definitely don't at this point, after reading about all the issues with the gnex. I absolutely love this phone. Everything works the way it should, the screen is gorgeous, battery life is great, and it just feels solid and well built. I, too, have the extended battery and I think it really makes the phone feel great. It's larger and easier to grip, and I actually prefer the added weight. I find a heavier phone is easier to hold onto and I'm also one who tends to associate heft with quality.
Aside from the phone, I think making the move to Verizon was the smartest thing I could have done. Where I live, I literally had to travel five miles south to pick up 3G on ATT...or 45 miles north. There is about a 50 mile stretch of Interstate 65 where ATT is 2G only. With Verizon, I have only found a couple of very small and very rural areas where I'm unable to get 3G (and I rarely visit those areas). I get 3G everywhere I go and, as an added bonus, switch over to 4G at the same 5 mile mark south of my house. Since I work 30 miles south of where I live, that works out perfectly...and I know Verizon will have that 4G area expanded to my house within a pretty reasonable timeframe. In the three years I was with ATT, they expanded the 3G coverage in my area by a whopping three miles. That's right...I used to have to travel 8 miles south to get 3G.
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Aside from the phone, I think making the move to Verizon was the smartest thing I could have done. Where I live, I literally had to travel five miles south to pick up 3G on ATT...or 45 miles north. There is about a 50 mile stretch of Interstate 65 where ATT is 2G only. With Verizon, I have only found a couple of very small and very rural areas where I'm unable to get 3G (and I rarely visit those areas). I get 3G everywhere I go and, as an added bonus, switch over to 4G at the same 5 mile mark south of my house. Since I work 30 miles south of where I live, that works out perfectly...and I know Verizon will have that 4G area expanded to my house within a pretty reasonable timeframe. In the three years I was with ATT, they expanded the 3G coverage in my area by a whopping three miles. That's right...I used to have to travel 8 miles south to get 3G.
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Excellent choice man! I always choose Verizon if I could. I get strong signal everywhere. I get LTE in most places I go. Everyone I knew who were on AT&T absolutely hated it, and complained how slow and unreliable it was. But when they switched to Verizon, they were blown away by how much of a difference it made.
Just got this phone and already loving it stocked... Will probably root soon
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Just got this phone and already loving it stocked... Will probably root soon
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I did the HTC Dev unlock and had it rooted on day two. I rocked the stock ROM for about a month or so and then flashed the latest ICS leak. I used that for a few days and now I'm on Scott's Clean ROM 4.1. It just keeps getting better. Lol
good phone, crappy battery life. i am getting a bit bored with no aosp or miui but overall id recommend it.
I recently came from T-Mobile as well, loving Verizon's service over T-Mobile. Didn't like their selection of phones though. As soon as I started playing with this phone in the store it was like it was meant to be. I prefer Samsung screens, touch sensitivity and ease of rooting. Out of all the phones I played with this was the only one that was remotely close enough to what I wanted. Battery life is terrible, but the service makes up for it if you have a charger all the time. Since you are an HTC person, this phone is vastly superior to other phones HTC phones I've used. I rooted a T-Bolt for my wife's father and I was just like get this away from me I'm tired of looking at it. Hopefully Verizon gets a SGS3 at some point so I can go back to Samsung. This resolution is awesome, needs some love on color and backlighting though imo. Some of my other rants about quick settings and what not don't really effect you though since you're used to HTC and not having quick settings at the top of the pull down with a quick button push instead of all crammed together with a horizontal scroll.
Ive had my Razr since Dec and ive loved it. Im not a super user, as root is enough for me and I dont use custom ROMs. But still, everything with Moto has been frustraiting with bootloaders, ICS, ect.
I am also grandfathered in for unlim VZ data, as I typicalled use 25ish GB per month. Ive been worried about loosing it with a future upgrade.
Well it turns out that I have an upgrade at the end of this month... and the SIII is coming out (pre ordres start tomorrow). And Vz said you will keep unlim data if you preorder (supposed anyways):
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...erizon-and-you-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan/
http://www.droid-life.com/tag/galaxy-s3/
The SIII looks slick and I like some of the new features. Only thing I can think of right now is that it does not have HDMI, and I do use that a few times a month..
So if I chose to upgrade, Im sure I could sell my Razr for a couple hundred and basically pay for my upgrade. Or if I didnt like the SIII, i should have the 14 days to return it. Or if I didnt like it, I could sell it to another VZ customer who doesnt have an upgrade yet. I could make a little money and save them from paying full retail on it.
Really not sure what I wanna do right now.
comparision of some phones
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...credible-4g-lte-vs-galaxy-nexus-vs-razr-maxx/
I would be very careful about upgrading to the Galaxy S III. It uses a variation of the same radio set in the Galaxy Nexus, and the reception is *horrible* on that phone (compared to the Razr or Rezound). In many places, I had no data signal at all (-120dBm), but in those same places my RAZR Maxx and Rezound both have 2+ bars of 4G and -89dBm...which I realize is not the 4G signal strength, but the results are in the speeds.
Using the Nexus in places that I had 0 bars I'd have no signal (couldn't connect at all). Turn on the RAZR Maxx or Rezound and I connect with 2-3 bars of 4G and speedtests average around 4-7Mbps. Not awesome, but at least I have signal (and it's still faster than most 3G). That kind of compromise is a *big* one. I work close to the lake and have absolutely no data signal at work on the Nexus...yet I have a great signal all day long with my RAZR.
I'd say give it a shot and see how it performs, but make sure to pay attention to how strong of a signal you have.
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Only thing I can think of right now is that it does not have HDMI, and I do use that a few times a month..
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Then it's up to you to decide, man. The SIII also has a higher resolution screen, but I feel the Motorola screen is much more "natural looking"... Not to mention the SIII has a terrible design compared to the Razr.
Really though, look at what forum where you're asking this in.
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I would be very careful about upgrading to the Galaxy S III. It uses a variation of the same radio set in the Galaxy Nexus, and the reception is *horrible* on that phone (compared to the Razr or Rezound). In many places, I had no data signal at all (-120dBm), but in those same places my RAZR Maxx and Rezound both have 2+ bars of 4G and -89dBm...which I realize is not the 4G signal strength, but the results are in the speeds.
Using the Nexus in places that I had 0 bars I'd have no signal (couldn't connect at all). Turn on the RAZR Maxx or Rezound and I connect with 2-3 bars of 4G and speedtests average around 4-7Mbps. Not awesome, but at least I have signal (and it's still faster than most 3G). That kind of compromise is a *big* one. I work close to the lake and have absolutely no data signal at work on the Nexus...yet I have a great signal all day long with my RAZR.
I'd say give it a shot and see how it performs, but make sure to pay attention to how strong of a signal you have.
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My friend at work has the Nexus and his signal here is fine. As for what kind of signal i would get at home, well that could be a different story.
But they also just got the .04 update and it was supposed to fix some radio issues. He said he could notice a difference on it as well. Hopfully they didnt make the same mistake on the SIII
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My friend at work has the Nexus and his signal here is fine. As for what kind of signal i would get at home, well that could be a different story.
But they also just got the .04 update and it was supposed to fix some radio issues. He said he could notice a difference on it as well. Hopfully they didnt make the same mistake on the SIII
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You know I don't work in the same place as your friend, right? lol Where *I* work, I get no signal at all in the Nexus...yet all of the other Verizon LTE phones get perfectly fine signal. It's a known problem with the Nexus radio (Samsung makes poor CDMA radios).
And that was on 4.0.4. I've had it for about 2 months already. The one going out now is the same one I've had. It did improve reception, but not at work.
If you don't use custom ROMs, why do you mind the bootloader?
My ex gets LTE on her RAZR Maxx while on my GNEX I Would get 3G. The Nexus does have a ****ty radio compared to the RAZR. Also the handoff between 3G and LTE is not that great even with the 4.0.4 radios.
SIII voice quality (outgoing) is HORRIBLE!! Call into someone's voicemail with both phones and record yourself reading a paragraph. Then listen to yourself. It's astonishing to me that people put up with such horrible outgoing quality.
+1 on the useless radio.
The SIII isn't branded as a "Nexus", so it's not a Google-pick. You'd just be buying another shackled phone... And if you're going to buy a shackled phone, buy one with a good radio.
This advice comes with a 100% money-back guarantee. If for any reason you are not satisfied with this advice, I will refund every penny you paid for it.
Not sure if this means anything to you, but I just upgraded to a RAZR MAXX knowing full well the S3 is due in a week or so. For me cost was part of the issue as I was looking to do an upgrade while still keeping my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I am just 12 months into my contract and not eligible for a new subsidized phone, but apparently they are clearing stock of the MAXX as the HD is approaching and I got the MAXX for $199.
My only complaint is the yellowishness of the whites. I'm taking this one to the store tomorrow to see if I can get one with white whites. I'm using a color calibrator to increase the blues to get me a real white, but that seems to be a work around and not a fix.
Other than that I cannot get over the thinness of the phone even though this is the thicker of the two RAZRs. Very comfortable to use. I'm not a Blur fan, but I love Moto hardware. Great voice quality.
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You know I don't work in the same place as your friend, right? lol Where *I* work, I get no signal at all in the Nexus...yet all of the other Verizon LTE phones get perfectly fine signal. It's a known problem with the Nexus radio (Samsung makes poor CDMA radios).
And that was on 4.0.4. I've had it for about 2 months already. The one going out now is the same one I've had. It did improve reception, but not at work.
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Yes I understand what you're saying, but you misunderstood what i was trying to get across.
Beings that my friend at work has the Nexus and gets good service... I too would get good service there... but idk about at home. Its just one of the major places i would be on my phone the most. If the S3 will have the same radio, well then it should work fine at work for me.
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Not sure if this means anything to you, but I just upgraded to a RAZR MAXX knowing full well the S3 is due in a week or so. For me cost was part of the issue as I was looking to do an upgrade while still keeping my grandfathered unlimited data plan. I am just 12 months into my contract and not eligible for a new subsidized phone, but apparently they are clearing stock of the MAXX as the HD is approaching and I got the MAXX for $199.
My only complaint is the yellowishness of the whites. I'm taking this one to the store tomorrow to see if I can get one with white whites. I'm using a color calibrator to increase the blues to get me a real white, but that seems to be a work around and not a fix.
Other than that I cannot get over the thinness of the phone even though this is the thicker of the two RAZRs. Very comfortable to use. I'm not a Blur fan, but I love Moto hardware. Great voice quality.
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What phone did you upgrade from?
Since ive already got the regular Razr, I fell like it would be a waste of money to spend my upgrade on a Maxx. You can buy the conversion kits for like $127 shipped (last time i checked anyways) with everything you need.