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Ive noticed serious battery drain since I first bought this fascinate from telus. On 2.1it lasted around 11 hours. Since upgrading to 2.2 leak, id say 8 hoirs max with only approx 1 hour of uusage and the rest on standby. I turned of sync, auto brightnrss and turned brightndss as.low as possible. I make sure no apps r running in the background. Yet it still dies superfast. Is this a issue with my battery thr phone itself or firmware or kernal. Its been a week of trying to find the problem so any help would b greatly appreciated. At tgis time im running 2.2 leak with all the files it came with and no root. Thx in advNce
And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
I update OTA last week on Verizon to Froyo 2.2. My battery was overheating and draining like crazy from my CPU usage being at a constant 99%..
I found the source of the problem. An app I use for facebook called "FLOW". The CPU usage was cut to 20% when I killed it with "Advanced Task Killer".
I resolved the issue by: Opening Flow.. going to Preferences.. Notification Settings.. Refresh Type.. Checked Periodic Polling (I was using Gmail Experimental previously)
Hope this helps...
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And hour and 12 minutes with about 30 min of internwt surfing and im down to 80 percent WTF
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sounds about average for a fascinate....
I'm on telus as well and also have terrible battery life, I've found no fix other than completely turning off Data using the toggle when holding the power button. Flashing a new rom might fix this but I've been to scared to since I bricked a phone trying it the first time. Hopefully when/if ever we get a 2.3 update it fixes this
Does anyone know where one can get an extended battery for this? I picked one up but it's for the friggin Verizon US version, and the battery cover isn't compatible, even though the battery fits(camera doesn't align, speaker's not even close).
Seriously, the American counterpart's accessories have been my biggest frustration with this phone, next to battery life...
Thought I'd give this a bump. The battery life on this Telus Fascinate 4G is truly disappointing and jumping through hoops trying to find and kill apps and services with and without utilities is wasting far too much of my time.
Anybody get a good handle on this?
Bump for same problem.
Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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Samsung Fascinate SCH-i500 Verizon
Running unmodified and unrooted. The phone itself works perfect. No problems other than the phone seriously eats battery. Yes the battery is still good and nothing wrong with it. Plugged in it charges super slowly. And the screen itself takes more than it provides. So i did the following.
A. Changed battery to a known working one.
B. Check with car charger and a home charger. As well as official samsung charger.
C. Gave a ROM a try. Running Dirty Unicorn. Lowered cpu to 800 max and 100 min.
D. Turned display to 50% Brightness.
My only try now is to try a different kernel or something. Im also thinking that the display itself is the culprit somehow eating to much voltage.
Or the gpu. The phones operating temps are good.
I have another post here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2430393 relating to where i have a USB problem and need help figuring it out. There has not been any replies. So i am taking upon myself to learn more. Ive worked with 3 Droid Milestones. Hopefully these two i500s will not be to hard. I need help on this new i500 to see if its not the motherboard. The charging port is on the motherboard and if this replacement eats batteries , then the point would be mute to use it for a working USB. A conundrum.
Do i try a different kernel or somthing else. Whats my next step.. Please help.
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what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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hhp_211 said:
what else do you have running?
what is the battery life overall usage? and screen usage hours?
screen is always gonna be the highest consumer of your battery
50% still pretty high unless you are out in sunlight, I keep mine between 0 and 30 % unless in sunlight
you can try running the greenify app from playstore.
what king of life are you expecting to get? anywhere between 6hrs to 24 hours total phone battery life is about average depending on how heavy user or how much in standby mode.
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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Its been on the charger since i posted. its only at 56%
3h 25m left
Screen 55%
Cell Standby 9%
SystemUI 7%
com.maxmpz.audioplayer 7%
Android System 7%
Its defiantly got something wrong as even though it says 56% if I unplug it, it will die in about 10 min. Even with a fully charged battery it does the same. Yes i also waited until 100% and wiped batt stats and at 3% left wiped stats. Screen is in standby
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I would recommend going here
[APP][2.1+][16 Apr. - V1.13.4] BetterBatteryStats
you can get better logs and information, plus if something is not easily visible to what is causing problems you can post up a log file for them to look at.
enjoy
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I had installed the program and it didn't really show anything abnormal. Although after installing the Bat Meter, when i shutdown it killed the phone till i ODIN. So tried on the other phone as well. Same thing. Install it and compared notes. Reboot phone and had to ODIN. So maybe bad app? Well whatever. I didn't see anything unusual. Although I did notice something strange about the phone that's bad with charging. I already eliminated the battery as the problem as well as charger. But the phone that is eating battery faster than it can charge, it gets warmer at idle than the other phone. It charged just super super tiny faster than the battery eats using just idle display on lock-screen. As well this phone also with a fully charged battery will read 100% But after about 21 minutes of poweramp at 33% volume on headphones will read about 52%. Then sitting rest at idle no display from 52% down to about 14% popup around another 5 min. Then completely dead in about 3 minutes. And the phone is pretty warm. Today it was ambient temp of around 87* outside and sitting in shade and it was hot enough that it wasn't comfortable on my cheek for more than 20 seconds. Half the time the temps are normal. Now remember I'm not running overclock and actually under clocked to 800. Ive tried 3 different roms with diff kernels and same. Could it possibly be a bad heat-sink? And the extra heat is killing battery?
[Q] Battery Drain
I recently was given a Fascinate and am having similar problems. I was told the phone had a bad battery, so I ordered a replacement. Once I got the new battery in, I flashed the phone with the Carbon ROM [the phone was unlocked, but running the OTA 2.3.5 I believe]. Everything seemed to be working fine the first week or two, but now there appears to be a serious battery drain or leak after I power the phone down. I can charge the phone to 100%, power it on and use it for a period of time, then power it down with 90% or more battery life, but when I turn the phone back on, the battery will either be really low, or completely dead, where the phone won't respond at all until I plug the charger back in.
I reflashed the phone with an AOKP ROM to see if that'd make a difference, but it didn't. I tried using the first battery and the drain/leak still persists. The commonality between the two roms is the Devil kernel, so I'm going to flash a different ROM with a different kernel to see if that makes a difference. I also installed the app mentioned above to log the battery stats/usage to see if anything stands out there.
Has anyone experienced something similiar - the Fascinate consuming battery life while powered off?
Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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Thanks for the reply. I'll try that. I've left the phone on today, just put it to sleep during periods of inactivity, and the battery is currently at 75% with occasional mild use after 8+ hours "on".
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After almost two weeks of use, I can confirm that if I power the phone down and do nothing else, the battery will continue to drain to 0%. If I power the phone down then remove and replace the battery, it's fine. It's an extra step, but it works. Thanks again.
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Yeah the power off leak does seem to exist.
Can't remember the cause though.
I've not tried to really confirm,, but try popping the battery out then back in after you have powered off,,, then check after it has sat overnight to see if drain still exist..
Mine i just always leave on a charger overnight.
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I have a stock SGS2 with a lot of widgets running. I use BetterBatteryStats and have removed the high power usage apps.
Past few days, the phone uses a lot of battery at night. Yesterday it had 32% battery and when i woke up it was dead.
Are the rest of you also seeing this much battery consumption every night ?
Funnily enough I've had exactly the same issue since about a week ago. Even when I take it off charge it's almost immediately down to around 80%. It's lasting around 4-5 hours, even when I'm not using the phone much, plus it gets really hot.
A couple of times Social Hub has appeared high up on the list of battery draining apps, although I don't use it. It doesn't always show up though. I switched to the CF-Root kernel and started using GO Launcher EX recently and wondered if that (or one of it's addon widgets) could be the cause.
It's really bugging me now!
I gave up with the stock S2. Rooted it and flashed MIUI to it along with the Siyah Kernel. Now it uses only 6% for the whole night. Battery usage is so much better now.
People having issues with battery should try the siyah kernel and change governors (unless some app was draining your battery)
yeah, actually some new users will experience battery problem. however, some says that when time goes by, the problem eventually sorted out itself.
i am guessing the phone need "warm up time"
I had the same problem with stock rom. you have to remove the preinstalled useless samsung apps. then battery consumption is better.
i am now on cm7. everything is working and around 8% per night with a lot of background processes (tasker, lbe, scheduled titanium backup).
Don't always turn on wifi or data unless necessary.Turn off background sync.This should help a lot even u r using stock rom.Kill tasks with built-in task manager.Make sure useless apps are not running in background.
With these tips,my s2 with rooted stock rom and stock kernel only consumed 3% of battery all night .
i keep wifi or gprs on for instant messaging needs. The Siyah kernel and the lulz governor give amazing battery life because process runs at lower clocks instead of jumping to 1200 unnecessarily.
The stock kernels aren't too bad in my experience.
I think you will find your battery drain will be caused by rogue apps before the kernel.
Edit: why have this phone if your going to turn off gsm and data etc. May aswel turn the phone right off and have zero drain overnight.
A drain of 1-3% per hour with everything turned on is normal for me.
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My dad's galaxy s2 seems to drain pretty fast. When hardly using the phone (screen time of less than 20 minutes) the phone dies after being idle for a maximum of 13 hours.
When using GSam Battery Monitor to see what is draining the battery, everything seems normal expect for 'Kernel'. 'Kernel' uses 40% up to 85% of battery out of everything running on the phone. When the phone has been on for 10+ hours 'Kernel' is using more than 2 hour cpu time.
When looking at BetterBatteryStats nothing strange shows.
When looking at Cpu Spy the phone deep sleeps a lot (60-80%) and 200 Mhz being the most used frequency after deep sleep (15-35%).
Pretty much everything seems to be fine, no apps draining the phone as far as I can see. No sync stuff draining the phone.
The only thing I noticed is that 'android system' is using the accelerometer and gyroscope for quite some time (it seems the accelerometer is always in use, the gyroscope can be in use for 30min-2 hours depending on how long the phone has been on).
For me it's not clear why 'Kernel' is using that much bettery. Looking at my HTC One X for example it almost never uses more than 9% battery (out of 100% which includes everything, radio, apps, wifi, etc). On my HTC One X 'Kernel' also almost never uses more than 25min cpu time even when the phone has been on for 13+ hours. It sounds to me that the kernel shouldn't drain the battery that much, especially when the phone is deep sleeping a lot.
I'm running CM9 RC2 (been using the CM9 nightlies before RC2, same issues). Tried other roms like NeatLite and NeatFull. Tried stock kernels from those roms, and tried other kernels as well. Same issue.
Any help is very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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My dad's galaxy s2 seems to drain pretty fast. When hardly using the phone (screen time of less than 20 minutes) the phone dies after being idle for a maximum of 13 hours.
When using GSam Battery Monitor to see what is draining the battery, everything seems normal expect for 'Kernel'. 'Kernel' uses 40% up to 85% of battery out of everything running on the phone. When the phone has been on for 10+ hours 'Kernel' is using more than 2 hour cpu time.
When looking at BetterBatteryStats nothing strange shows.
When looking at Cpu Spy the phone deep sleeps a lot (60-80%) and 200 Mhz being the most used frequency after deep sleep (15-35%).
Pretty much everything seems to be fine, no apps draining the phone as far as I can see. No sync stuff draining the phone.
The only thing I noticed is that 'android system' is using the accelerometer and gyroscope for quite some time (it seems the accelerometer is always in use, the gyroscope can be in use for 30min-2 hours depending on how long the phone has been on).
For me it's not clear why 'Kernel' is using that much bettery. Looking at my HTC One X for example it almost never uses more than 9% battery (out of 100% which includes everything, radio, apps, wifi, etc). On my HTC One X 'Kernel' also almost never uses more than 25min cpu time even when the phone has been on for 13+ hours. It sounds to me that the kernel shouldn't drain the battery that much, especially when the phone is deep sleeping a lot.
I'm running CM9 RC2 (been using the CM9 nightlies before RC2, same issues). Tried other roms like NeatLite and NeatFull. Tried stock kernels from those roms, and tried other kernels as well. Same issue.
Any help is very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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ok it isn't normal that the phone die after 13hours while sleeping, however the only app that will tell you every thing about the battery drain issue will be better battery status , try it and provide us with log, you will see about each app, and know if there is any app missbehaving, but if every works as expected , i think it will be abattery issue, change it and try,
btw: with cm9 you can't use stock kernels, use aosp/aokp kerenls, stock kernels only with samsung based roms
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ok it isn't normal that the phone die after 13hours while sleeping, however the only app that will tell you every thing about the battery drain issue will be better battery status , try it and provide us with log, you will see about each app, and know if there is any app missbehaving, but if every works as expected , i think it will be abattery issue, change it and try,
btw: with cm9 you can't use stock kernels, use aosp/aokp kerenls, stock kernels only with samsung based roms
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I meant stock kernel as in the stock cm9 kernel.
I do think GSam Battery Monitor is a decent app for a global overview of what has been using the battery. When it says the kernel has been using the battery (by using a lot of cpu time), I do believe that's true. Especially since other phones in my household that aren't draining show the kernel is hardly using cpu time.
Here's a log file from BBS. Nothing strange to me, but maybe I'm looking at it wrong. See the attachment for the BBS log.
Bump, same issue. Accelerometer is also on for multiple hours. Battery drains too fast, noghing is amiss in BBS or Gsam.
i have exactly the same problem with my fathers s2.
can someone help?
michael
the same problem is with my SII & its started after I switched to AOKP JB MILESTIONE 1 ROM with Dorimanx Kernel..... Kernel CPU usgae is very high when screen is off for 5-6hrs.
Now, i have switched to Siyah kernel.... lets see if that improves the situation.
I was really suffering from massive battery drain....see here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012
ive now found out that i am having a very wierd problem...My rom is showing some 30% battery while 4ext shows 50%......Sometimes it is exactly the opposite....Once i discharged my phone to 2% (rom reading) and when i saw in recovery it says 17%....
I have completed many many cycles of battery from charging to full....and discharge to 0.....Also i used the battery callibration app SEVERAL times!!!!........But nothing seems to work...
Can somebody help...Please
I am really suffering from massive battery drain http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933012 :crying:
Did you try to delete battery stats? Or use an app to improve battery life?
I have the same issue too when booting into recovery. I don't worry about it. I suggest the same as Ramjet in your other thread.
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I had this issue with my old battery and old charger,
Now I dont use my phone while charging , I charge other batteries with the wall charger while using other ones and everything is fine now.... battery % seems to be same in both android and recovery.
I have that same issue too. Lol maybe the recovery can't read the battery correctly. It'll show up higher in recovery and then when I reboot, it will read the same way like in recovery. Tried numerous batteries with the same result. Although I havnt tried battery calibrating. Ill give that a shot.
Is there any solution ??
Try klect's solution and go into recovery, wipe battery stats. Then let your battery drain and die. Then charge your battery back to 100% with no interuptions like pulling your phone off the charger too soon. When you wipe your batt stats you are getting ready to recaliberate your battery. After you let it charge to 100 percent. Let it drain to 0 a couple times to recondition your battery.
You do know that the evo 3D gives around 3 hrs of screen time dont you? even on stock rom on normal usage. If you have the wifi on all the times you'll get around 2:30 maybe 3 on a full charge.
Your battery certainly is draining faster than usual but have you tried keeping it idle and seeing what kind of drain you get? From that screenshot in the other thread it seems like your phone is getting some heavy wifi browsing or something (and do check if facebook or email apps are the culprit. Having push email on drains a lot)
And the recovery/rom reading wrong stats happens all the time. just recalibrate your battery like these good folks here have already suggested
Yes i keep wifi on all the time...
But once i kept my locked for abot 3 hours after full charge...when i unlocked it showed 99%...i was happy and i didn't do anything just surfing my screens it dropped very very fast to some 70 % !!!!
Also please hit our thank you buttons please. Even if you didn't get the exact answers you wanted. It's appreciated for helping one another.
you really should check your apps battery usage using one of the apps ramjet73 told you about
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There are a bunch of tips here.
Usually that kind of drain is caused by an app. Try running a stock ROM for a day or two and see if the issues go away. Or use one of the battery monitoring apps (BetterBatteryStats, SystemPanel Standard, Battery Monitor Widget) to determine which app is causing your drain.
It may take some work on your part to isolate the problem since there is no global solution to battery problems.
ramjet73
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top culprits are mostly facebook,email exchange,google maps and pretty much anything that syncs alot
Also try using you phone on min brightness auto brightness is also a battery killer
I cant beleive no one asked you this but which kernel are you using? And is it overclocked?
I am on mwakious 13.1 default...no changes to it
Hey,
I have lately flashed CM10.1 nightly on my GT-I9300 and am experiencing high battery drain (twice-three times what I had before), and get over 1%/h over the night when all is turned off.
I have read a lot about fast battery drain reasons, but couldn't find an answer to mine.
I've downloaded better battery stats to check for any abnormal activity, but it seems normal to me (dump attached).
Note, I've installed the cm10.1 straight from my internal memory and I do not have an external SD card.
Also, from the dump file it seems that the phone was mostly in deep sleep mode and I see no reason then why it wouldn't just drain at 1-2% per 8h.
Thank you very much in advance!
vadiklk said:
Hey,
I have lately flashed CM10.1 nightly on my GT-I9300 and am experiencing high battery drain (twice-three times what I had before), and get over 1%/h over the night when all is turned off.
I have read a lot about fast battery drain reasons, but couldn't find an answer to mine.
I've downloaded better battery stats to check for any abnormal activity, but it seems normal to me (dump attached).
Note, I've installed the cm10.1 straight from my internal memory and I do not have an external SD card.
Also, from the dump file it seems that the phone was mostly in deep sleep mode and I see no reason then why it wouldn't just drain at 1-2% per 8h.
Thank you very much in advance!
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I was able to improve battery life by turning off haptic feedback. Now I'm getting about 8-9 hours of moderate to slightly heavy use, which is much better than the four hours I was getting before.
Lower your brightness settings, screen is to blame the most.
Turn off gps, data, haptic.
Install Greenify, (requires root) to lower the battery usage of the phone by greenifying the apps that youre using.. However it works for me
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you can install juice defender pro.
riotaruna said:
you can install juice defender pro.
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It literally takes control over the cell, I didnt like it on my htc tattoo
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