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is there any way to permanently delete text messages.. so for instance if my phone was was sold on there was no way they could recover the data from it ?
Why, what you up to ??
I think a master reset would wipe it but I guess everything on the phone is still in memory but not accessable through normal means but if the CIA wanted to they'd give it to a data recovery company and get files back from ram like you can recover deleted flash files as long as they are not overwritten.
Though I dont realy know, just guessin.
If its real important then a big hammer always works
are you mental? texts are deleted permanently when you press delete. in fact, the entire thread of texts is. go on, try it. delete a text & try to get it back...
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yetep said:
are you mental? texts are deleted permanently when you press delete. in fact, the entire thread of texts is. go on, try it. delete a text & try to get it back...
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What? No. Do you even know how deletion works on any normal device today? It stays in memory until it's overwritten with something else. And even then it's possible to recreate the data.
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are you mental? texts are deleted permanently when you press delete. in fact, the entire thread of texts is. go on, try it. delete a text & try to get it back...
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it doesn't work like that.. the data will still be there.. it's just removed from the index so you can't get it through the normal user interface.... you'd need to do a full format of the intenal memory and then rebuild the phone system.. probably possible but I'm not interested enough to look for a solution!
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so you think a fatory reset or a rom flash would do this?
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are you mental? texts are deleted permanently when you press delete. in fact, the entire thread of texts is. go on, try it. delete a text & try to get it back...
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as stated if some 1 has the right software then can retrieve anything from your phone!
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Why, what you up to ??
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so you think a factory reset/rom flash would sort it out
yetep said:
are you mental? texts are deleted permanently when you press delete. in fact, the entire thread of texts is. go on, try it. delete a text & try to get it back...
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as stated if some 1 has the right software then can retrieve anything from your phone!
You have raised a valid point regarding sensitive data on mobile devices, Its just like your PC but in your pocket.
Ive never sold a pc but if I did I think I would destroy the drives just in case. The same could be said for these phones with their gig of flash storing all your passwords, emails, texts, online banking details, ebay account details, paypal .. etc... Ok Im being a little paranoid here but its getting that way.
A security data wiper/writer could be a good app to develop.
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You have raised a valid point regarding sensitive data on mobile devices, Its just like your PC but in your pocket.
Ive never sold a pc but if I did I think I would destroy the drives just in case. The same could be said for these phones with their gig of flash storing all your passwords, emails, texts, online banking details, ebay account details, paypal .. etc... Ok Im being a little paranoid here but its getting that way.
A security data wiper/writer could be a good app to develop.
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I don't think you're paranoid. You have a valid point there! The amount of information we have that is critically personal is enormous! I never sell my phones to people outside my family and I probably never will.
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You have raised a valid point regarding sensitive data on mobile devices, Its just like your PC but in your pocket.
Ive never sold a pc but if I did I think I would destroy the drives just in case. The same could be said for these phones with their gig of flash storing all your passwords, emails, texts, online banking details, ebay account details, paypal .. etc... Ok Im being a little paranoid here but its getting that way.
A security data wiper/writer could be a good app to develop.
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you can get a program called kill disk for a pc which will totaly wipe all data from drive so nothing can be recovered! am sure it would be possible to do it for a mobile but as on pc you will need to reinstall your OS which in x10 case would be andriod.
The most secure way is using professional third-party software like iPhone Data Eraser, which is a reliable and effective tool to smash everything on your iPhone, including contacts, messages, photos, videos, apps, account info, passwords, photos and other personal data.
Maybe you could find the answer in YouTube. youtube.com/watch?v=gXTiTZiz6WM
Someone already got WhatsApp (whatsapp<dot>com) working on their Archos Gen8?
I have downloaded the apk for Android and installed it on my Archos 70, but I get an error that the application does not recognise my Archos (or something similar).
It seems that it doesn't work on a WIFI only device, GSM module is required I think.
Maybe someone has found a workaround for this?
BTW, I have already contacted WhatsApp support via email, waiting for their reply...
WhatsApp needs GSM because your mobile number is your login credentials/identifier: no GSM -> no identifier -> no WhatsApp
edit: to get around the missing gsm problem, they would have to implement real credentials (phone number + password) so not everbody can just type your phone number in his whatsapp and send messages as it he were you.
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edit: to get around the missing gsm problem, they would have to implement real credentials (phone number + password) so not everbody can just type your phone number in his whatsapp and send messages as it he were you.
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Did you get that to work? Because I would really like to be able to whats app with my normal mobile number..
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Did you get that to work? Because I would really like to be able to whats app with my normal mobile number..
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He wrote they have to change this in the application
Im sorry but i think they wont doing it, just because one archos user want it.
(nearly) all other android devices can "handle" whatsapp because nearly all android devices are phones
(so gsm module is included)
Hmmm that sucks... Because I almost always have WiFi so it would save me like 10 euro per month. But there are way more Tablets like Xoom, how do they do it? Or does the Xoom also have an data plan? Maybe there are some hackers who can fix/crack it?
Yes the Xoom has an data plan
You can try mjoy.com, its pretty the same
Hackers would have to change the apk, and thats much work
sorry, but i think no one will do this
Lennb said:
Yes the Xoom has an data plan
You can try mjoy.com, its pretty the same
Hackers would have to change the apk, and thats much work
sorry, but i think no one will do this
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Thanks for your answer. I live in holland, and does Mjoy.com mean that I can text anyone anywhere with my Archos (WiFi) and my normal mobile number? That's crazy. thank you.
EDIT: But do I get the message's on my mobile phone or on my Archos? Because if I get them on my phone it is rather useless.
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Do I get the message's on my mobile phone or on my Archos?
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You get the messages not on your Archos, you get them on phone
Because mjoy should actually use on phone (on your archos you have to change user gent to iphone) but then you need a data plan
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Because if I get them on my phone it is rather useless.
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Hey, better than nothing
I found some guides to make it work on ipod touch or ipad, so there should be a way to make i work on non-phone android devices
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I found some guides to make it work on ipod touch or ipad
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do you want to share them with us?
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do you want to share them with us?
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Do you guys mean the app or mjoy?
I'm talking about the guides he referred to
whatsapp is working on my archos 101 simply i've take a backup for whatsapp from my phone using titanium backup and restored it to my archos and it's working fine ..
vantoman said:
whatsapp is working on my archos 101 simply i've take a backup for whatsapp from my phone using titanium backup and restored it to my archos and it's working fine ..
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But you also need a phone that runs whatsapp... I don't have a phone with whatsapp. You also get your whatsapp messages on your Archos?
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But you also need a phone that runs whatsapp... I don't have a phone with whatsapp. You also get your whatsapp messages on your Archos?
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yes i got whatsapp messages on both my HTC click and arhcos at the same time ; its fun though to chat using two devices
vantoman said:
yes i got whatsapp messages on both my HTC click and arhcos at the same time ; its fun though to chat using two devices
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But that would mean that you have only ONE whatsapp on two devices? Or are they different from each other?
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But that would mean that you have only ONE whatsapp on two devices? Or are they different from each other?
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it's the same whatsapp as it uses the same phone # , the same contacts , the same mesages and the same status
you have to take a backup from a working whatsapp because whatsapp needs a cell phone # to authenticate .
Well that sucks.
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Well that sucks.
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dude try to get your whatsapp running on any android phone then just take your backup it's too easy
does that mean you could change some parameters in the user data of whatsapp and login as a different phone#
Hi, i just got the S2 a couple days ago and it's an amazing phone coming from an Iphone3g.
I was wondering if it is possible to install 2 whatsapp program on the phone? the reason for this is that i have 2 cell phone numbers, one personal and one work. i switch sim cards on weekends. i have separate work and personal friends, i don't want them to interchange and know about my other numbers.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
from what i understand
when u switch the sim card whatsapp starts again like u just installed it
Yes i understand whatsapp still works when install new sim card in the phone, but the phone number does not change with the sim card. That's my problem and i hope an expert here can let me know if it's possible to have 2 whatsapp or advise me an alternative solution.
You could try moving the apk to /system/app and then installing one from the market (/data/app). I've never tried anything like this so I'm not sure if it'd work.
Why don't you mail the developer...
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So i guess its not possible to install 2 whatsapp, i'll email the developers to see if they have a solution.
Thank you everyone.
From experience....
I switched sims....and whatsapp thought i was still on my old number...until I was bothered to re-install it.
There have been a lot of whatsapp updates since then.. don;t know if it still works like that
I have 2 numbers and 2 phones and that works becuase each phone has its own gmail account therefore its own apps market.To have 2 WhatsApp on the same phone with different numbers probably might work if you put another gmail account in "My Accounts" and see if it can sign in and open its own apps store account but 2 WhatsApp on the same phone wont work if they share the same gmail/market account.
Ironmit,
Yes it's still the same, switching sim cards does not change whatsapp number.
Thank you everyone, i have emailed the developers and waiting for their reply. i will post results as soon as they get back to me in case anyone has the same problem as me.
Same problem need two whatsapps in one phone
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Ironmit,
Yes it's still the same, switching sim cards does not change whatsapp number.
Thank you everyone, i have emailed the developers and waiting for their reply. i will post results as soon as they get back to me in case anyone has the same problem as me.
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Let me know if it works as I need to do the same.
Dual boot
why don't u dual boot your phone using a kernel like dorminax or siyah
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680851
Dualboot will help
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TB's App Profiles Feature?
86b said:
Hi, i just got the S2 a couple days ago and it's an amazing phone coming from an Iphone3g.
I was wondering if it is possible to install 2 whatsapp program on the phone? the reason for this is that i have 2 cell phone numbers, one personal and one work. i switch sim cards on weekends. i have separate work and personal friends, i don't want them to interchange and know about my other numbers.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
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Titanium Backup has a feature called App Profiles which basically allows you to have "two (or more) instances" of an app installed on your device. So you would create a new profile for WhatsApp and sign in with your 2nd number. Then if you want to go back to the 1st number, just switch back to the first profile. I'm not sure if that would work as I haven't tried it but that's an idea.
EDIT: I tried this out and it worked. You can even have a widget on your homescreen to easily and quickly switch between profiles.
Yes, the Titanium Backup App Profiles feature is a very good workaround, thanks for the tips halogen_guy.
Just one thing is when the profile is changed, the other phone number cannot receive messages. It would be great if we can make both numbers able to receive messages at the same time (dreaming).
Not complaining, at least I can use Whatsapp with my secondary phone number once in a while. I'm very happy now
Multiple profiles in TB for Whatsapp
halogen_guy said:
Titanium Backup has a feature called App Profiles which basically allows you to have "two (or more) instances" of an app installed on your device. So you would create a new profile for WhatsApp and sign in with your 2nd number. Then if you want to go back to the 1st number, just switch back to the first profile. I'm not sure if that would work as I haven't tried it but that's an idea.
EDIT: I tried this out and it worked. You can even have a widget on your homescreen to easily and quickly switch between profiles.
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Can you please tell me in detail how I can use two profiles in whatsapp on the same phone.
I am a newbie to this forum and android rooting and all.
I have rooted my htc One S and installed TB v6.0
Can you please tell me the procedure.
Thanks
moses.finney said:
Can you please tell me in detail how I can use two profiles in whatsapp on the same phone.
I am a newbie to this forum and android rooting and all.
I have rooted my htc One S and installed TB v6.0
Can you please tell me the procedure.
Thanks
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You have already quoted the answer to your question in ur post mate. Read, search and learn.
"To err is human, to forgive is divine"
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Yeah thanks.. finally got it by making two data profiles using Titanium back up
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moses.finney said:
Yeah thanks.. finally got it by making two data profiles using Titanium back up
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can it work without rooted my devices?
boyrobbie said:
can it work without rooted my devices?
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No, i dont think it will work on non-rooted devices.
It needs Titanium backup to create multiple profiles and it NEEDS Root access
86b said:
Hi, i just got the S2 a couple days ago and it's an amazing phone coming from an Iphone3g.
I was wondering if it is possible to install 2 whatsapp program on the phone? the reason for this is that i have 2 cell phone numbers, one personal and one work. i switch sim cards on weekends. i have separate work and personal friends, i don't want them to interchange and know about my other numbers.
Your help is greatly appreciated.
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best Solution for this dual boot your Phone. So 1 whatsapp is on one rom other one is on second rom.
I have a dream! a dual whatsapp for both of my numbers! One bussiness one, private! It would also be wonderful for 7102 users..
I tried a lot with my limited programming knowledge and yet couldnt do it.. i had it back at my iphone era it has been accomplished with a root app called "application duplicator"
Well if it is possible on droid please tell me so
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whatsapp widget..https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sixamthree.whatswidget.google use filter to make per person
Well this gives two lists but not two different accounts..
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Titanium Backup has a feature called App Profiles which basically allows you to have "two (or more) instances" of an app installed on your device. So you would create a new profile for WhatsApp and sign in with your 2nd number. Then if you want to go back to the 1st number, just switch back to the first profile.
Buy another phone
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aukhan said:
Titanium Backup has a feature called App Profiles which basically allows you to have "two (or more) instances" of an app installed on your device. So you would create a new profile for WhatsApp and sign in with your 2nd number. Then if you want to go back to the 1st number, just switch back to the first profile.
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Is it something like SwitchMe? Like you havee two completely different profiles or just the profiles for app itself?
Ill give it a try, thanks
Back at my iphone days, ios used to have a script called "appdub" which allowed many instances of any app. That was pretty neat.
I had 2 whatsapps for example. I wass also dubbing games for my brothers use, so we both used to own game profiles for ourselves.
An app installs itself to data/app/..... any version of the same app does exactly name itself over existing one. I suppose if I can merely change installation name even by a letter, I shall have two set ups (well that also needs a change in data folder name, but if one of aforementioned is possible, the later shall also be)
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Is it something like SwitchMe? Like you havee two completely different profiles or just the profiles for app itself?
Ill give it a try, thanks
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you will have completely 2 different profiles
there is not 2 account under 1 sim..i guess u have to use sim multiplier..
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there is not 2 account under 1 sim..i guess u have to use sim multiplier..
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it's not about the sim, my whatsapp run in the device with different sim number.
simply use other phone to receive the confirmation code
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it's not about the sim, my whatsapp run in the device with different sim number.
simply use other phone to receive the confirmation code
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Can you tell me how you do that because for me it always look for sms in same phone and no way to enter code ourself
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Can you tell me how you do that because for me it always look for sms in same phone and no way to enter code ourself
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here is the chronology:
A01 = my register number for whatsapp since 2011 this number is on my old phone that's have a better battery backup (just incase)
when on wifi network i usually airplane mode my n7100, but it's also work with data network mode
just enter A01 to the whatsapp when u do the first setup with it.
then whatsapp will ask for verification code that u get from sms. wait for the sms (not more then 1 minute for me), when u receive the verification code, simply enter the code to the box. voila.. u can use whatsapp with different number on a phone that attached a different number too.
if ur register number is on a smartphone with a active whatsapp, then it will be log out automatically at the time u receive or send a message.
i have do this many times, because have flashing many times.
my whatsapp number journey: nokia 5800 <--> xperia sola <--> n7100 <---- while the register number still attached in my SE w880i
i also done it with line,wechat and chat on(no use anymore) all of them use the same number as in SE w880i
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Hi All
anyone tried to move their data via google setup from iphone to the Sony in order to profit specially from the whatsapp move.
is taking an eternity
can you propose any alternatives to move whatsapp properly and maybe more efficient? the rest of the stuff is in both cloud environments and thus not an issue.
Hi in another Thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/xperia-overheating-problem.4467263/post-87154017 a Senior Member taught me about ApkExport , make a search here , there are some Apple threads apparently
Search for Switch to Android .
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Search for Switch to Android .
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that doesnt seem to work. whatsapp on the sony does not show the import dialogue
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that doesnt seem to work. whatsapp on the sony does not show the import dialogue
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I saved my WhatsApp data on Google, transfered my SIM over, set up the fone and WhatsApp. WhatsApp automagically restored my chats. It took a while because it was about 9GiB. If you're using an sdcard, maybe try configuring a local directory on your fone for backups. Transfer your iphone stuff to that directory and see whether it picks it up.
thanks a lot for the Suggestion.
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I saved my WhatsApp data on Google, transfered my SIM over, set up the fone and WhatsApp. WhatsApp automagically restored my chats. It took a while because it was about 9GiB. If you're using an sdcard, maybe try configuring a local directory on your fone for backups. Transfer your iphone stuff to that directory and see whether it picks it up.
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that is seems to sound like the migration from android to android.
i made the import from ios to android via Wazzap migrator. A paid app and it still works better, then using it with the android set up guide sinse that seems to freeze on my 1miv