[query]System Update can void root access? - Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A

I'm currently using a Sony LWW which is running on Extended Stock kernel and Rooted Sony Official ICS and I've got a System Update. On updating, will I lose my root access?

if its ota update, probably not.

what's an OTA update?
I'm on build .431 right now and it's an update to .587.
What're the probable the changes?

simon4u92 said:
what's an OTA update?
I'm on build .431 right now and it's an update to .587.
What're the probable the changes?
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It's over the air, don't accept it! Otherwise your device will brick!!!!!
You can only flash the .ftf and after that a prerooted kernel, but don't make updates over the air when your bootloader is unlocked

mihahn said:
It's over the air, don't accept it! Otherwise your device will brick!!!!!
You can only flash the .ftf and after that a prerooted kernel, but don't make updates over the air when your bootloader is unlocked
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Frankly speaking, that sounded a little sarcastic for some reason.
Anyways, what do I do now? How do I get that notification off my notification bar/drawer?

simon4u92 said:
Frankly speaking, that sounded a little sarcastic for some reason.
Anyways, what do I do now? How do I get that notification off my notification bar/drawer?
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Uninstall update center will solve your problem. You don't need it anyway. Or flash the .ftf which should be uploaded somewhere here on xda

i think it wont brick your phone as long as you have a locked bootloader. but you will lose your root access

adin234 said:
i think it wont brick your phone as long as you have a locked bootloader. but you will lose your root access
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It will brick his phone, because his bootloader is unlocked (he is using extended stock kernel!). So don't accept the update!

mihahn said:
It will brick his phone, because his bootloader is unlocked (he is using extended stock kernel!). So don't accept the update!
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:good:
so to TS, you may relock bootloader and root via the downgrade and update method if you really want the .587 update

adin234 said:
:good:
so to TS, you may relock bootloader and root via the downgrade and update method if you really want the .587 update
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If I were him, I'd wait for someone who upload the .587 ftf. Then he can just flash it and a prerooted kernel like rage kernel for 4.0.4 and he has the latest rooted sony ics firmware

I will just chuck the update and uninstall update center as advised.
Thanks a lot for the info guys

Update to .587 and then follow this tutorial to root your phone. I did it already!

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[Q] Question about rooted and cwm recovery

Hi All,
My Neo V is rooted and install CWM recovery, do i need get update from PC companion right?
Do i need to uninstall CWM before updating to ICS? thanks in advance.
marcflorence said:
Hi All,
My Neo V is rooted and install CWM recovery, do i need get update from PC companion right?
Do i need to uninstall CWM before updating to ICS? thanks in advance.
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No, there is no need to get update from PC companion, you can download and flash custom ROMS made by devs at XDA which are better,cleaner,faster and awesome
No, you will need CWM to install the ROM which will be in the form of .zip so you should not remove CWM
Vabby said:
No, there is no need to get update from PC companion, you can download and flash custom ROMS made by devs at XDA which are better,cleaner,faster and awesome
No, you will need CWM to install the ROM which will be in the form of .zip so you should not remove CWM
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Thanks dude, but i want to use official ics from Sony, also my bootloader is lock.
so rooted and CWM recovery do affect official updates and installation of ics? O_O
marcflorence said:
Thanks dude, but i want to use official ics from Sony, also my bootloader is lock.
so rooted and CWM recovery do affect official updates and installation of ics? O_O
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Uninstall cwm but keep the root and then do the OTA (over the air) then yoou will keep your root but if you update with pcc then you are losing your root, but if you update with CWM then you get an error cannot install the update, but mate this is already posted so why double?
learn to search buddy
remove CWM, leave root, it's been talked about that already, read few threads in general section.
EDIT: slow for a minute..
Thanks to all!
Sorry for spoonfeed
marcflorence said:
Thanks to all!
Sorry for spoonfeed
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Press the THANKS !!
not say it mate, if you press it thats enough,
and no problem but next time.. SEARCH
marcflorence said:
Thanks dude, but i want to use official ics from Sony, also my bootloader is lock.
so rooted and CWM recovery do affect official updates and installation of ics? O_O
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You won't recieve OTA updates if you unlock the bootloader using SE's tool
ie you cannot install if you unlock your bootloader, however your bootloader is locked so you can get official sony updates
Q.how do i know if the bootloader is unlocked?
quite easy, run either PCC or SEUS if it says that it can not recognize your phone bc you have a modified software then that means the bootloader has been unlocked.
Hey guys,
Im searching this forum and googling about removing/unstalling CWM recovery for Neo V but no luck even on thread where i learn how to install cwm.
Can i still get from help from you experts?
Vabby said:
Q.how do i know if the bootloader is unlocked?
quite easy, run either PCC or SEUS if it says that it can not recognize your phone bc you have a modified software then that means the bootloader has been unlocked.
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That means that bootloader has been unlocked official way(Sony dev. page)
Bootloaders un-officialy unlocked can be updated via PCC or SEUS.

OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 for rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader

I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Boom
better dont, you will end up with a bricked device. NEVER accept OTA updates if your bootloader is unlocked.
Don't update with PCC when you're unlocked.
Wow, that was fast! Thank you guys.
hi, did you find how to update?
BoomBadill said:
I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Boom
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i also have an open bootloader although not root, but i tried updating using the phone's OTA and PCC and neither worked. I promptly realized it might just be the open bootloader which is keeping me from updating, so how do we manually update? if you have any procedures will highly appreciate anyone..... thanks in advance
abajarde said:
i also have an open bootloader although not root, but i tried updating using the phone's OTA and PCC and neither worked. I promptly realized it might just be the open bootloader which is keeping me from updating, so how do we manually update? if you have any procedures will highly appreciate anyone..... thanks in advance
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You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
thanks for the quick reply
Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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Im going to engage in a rather noobish conversation but i want to be completely sure before i proceed to install. my phone and my pc companion both find the update which is 6.1.a.2.45, which i assume is the one i need to find on .ftf. after downloading it from wherever i find it i just open the flash tool program and select it to start the installation? and again thank you
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Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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i did a fast search and found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31011440#post31011440
they have some firmwares there, but they seem to be full updates, because they are 300+mb while the update on my phone its only 40mb.
so should i just download the generic and proceed to flash?
Anicane said:
You can find your regions FW. (firmware) and download it, after that download and install flashtool, and flash the .ftf file via flashtool and that is it.
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Where do i find a xperia s Brazil firmware? I downloaded every other regions, but i want the brazilian one. Can you help me? Thank you.
BoomBadill said:
I have a rooted Xperia S with unlocked bootloader, by following instructions on this thread.
Today I received a notification about OTA update to 6.1.A.2.45 (40MB in size) and I was wondering if I can apply this update without loosing root. I really did search for an answer on the forum before making this post and couldn't find anything specific for my phone, but what I did found only confused me more, which is to be expected since I am a noob. Apparently it worked for some users of Xperia Play with unlocked bootloader, but on the other hand some users of Xperia Arc S say that bootloader should be locked when making an OTA update.
I would really appreciate any help from more experienced members, I'm new in Android and don't want to start by bricking my phone.
Thank you for your time and effort.
Boom
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Hmmm,
Slightly different scenario here.
I have a rooted xperia S with a locked bootloader and obviously want to preserve root.
Previous experience tells me that a PC update from SEUS does a full wipe of the phone and looses root however OTA updates usually preserve root. I was hoping somebody could clarify if this is still the case?
Thanks
if your bootloaders unlocked you cant update ota or via seus. it will just give an error about your device being modified
Hmmm,
Slightly different scenario here.
I have a rooted xperia S with a locked bootloader and obviously want to preserve root.
Previous experience tells me that a PC update from SEUS does a full wipe of the phone and looses root however OTA updates usually preserve root. I was hoping somebody could clarify if this is still the case?
Thanks
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same question as you, i have a rogers xperia s with a stock uk rom, it's rooted but bootloader is still locked. Just want to make sure that i don't loose root, or the root method can still be applied after the update.
i found something which might help you
hackit said:
same question as you, i have a rogers xperia s with a stock uk rom, it's rooted but bootloader is still locked. Just want to make sure that i don't loose root, or the root method can still be applied after the update.
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there is a rom somewhere in another forum i guess which already is updated and rooted. so you might want to just download that one and flash it. it has its own kernel and recovery.
abajarde said:
there is a rom somewhere in another forum i guess which already is updated and rooted. so you might want to just download that one and flash it. it has its own kernel and recovery.
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I thought you could not use pre rooted rom with a locked bootloader.
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hackit said:
I thought you could not use pre rooted rom with a locked bootloader.
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1723610
I've not been on much recently at all so I could be wrong, but I'm sure it's been said that you can flash ROM such as the linked one when bootloader is locked and perhaps the pre-rooted one too. May need to search the thread.
Nothing out there that allows me to root my Xperia S on ICS without wiping my data though I think. One can wait... or dream. :[
Chocolate Columbo said:
Nothing out there that allows me to root my Xperia S on ICS without wiping my data though I think. One can wait... or dream. :[
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Yeah having too wipe at this point is a bummer. If I'm going to wipe my phone ill wait for the ability to unlock my locked bootloader.
Problem with that is I will most likely have a new phone by then.
Sent from my LT26i using xda premium

How to update rooted mini to 4.1.B.0.587?

Hello,
I have 4.1.B.0.431 on my xperia mini.
I found this on sony update......
"Make sure your device has the latest software so you can enjoy optimal performance and all of its features.
Latest available software: 4.1.B.0.587
Release date: 2012-08-16"
And here is my problem.
I have rooted device how do i update to 4.1.B.0.587 and keep my root?
It would be nice if someone packed the bundle of joy. (firmware, flash tool )
Im talking about all stock.
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader then you can just update via seus without any problem but I'm sure you'll lose your root . If you have unlocked your bootloader the official way then seus itself won't allow you to update your device. It'll throw an error saying you've modified your firmware so it's not possible to get the update. If it's a fota update and you just have rooted your device (bootloader is LOCKED) then go ahead and update you'll just lose your root privileges. IF YOU HAVE UNLOCKED YOUR BOOTLOADER OFFICIALLY AND IT'S A FOTA UPDATE THEN PLEASE DON'T UPDATE YOUR DEVICE VIA FOTA IT'LL POSSIBLY BRICK YOUR DEVICE! If you want to flash clean untouched firmware before update then see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568792
And see this for flashtool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351309
And see this for retaining your root status http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695514 this is for.431 firmware but I'm sure it'll work for .587 too. And before posting please do search the forum. The question you've asked has been answered a lot of time .
Sent from my smultron using xda app-developers app
gouthamthemostwanted said:
If you haven't unlocked your bootloader then you can just update via seus without any problem but I'm sure you'll lose your root . If you have unlocked your bootloader the official way then seus itself won't allow you to update your device. It'll throw an error saying you've modified your firmware so it's not possible to get the update. If it's a fota update and you just have rooted your device (bootloader is LOCKED) then go ahead and update you'll just lose your root privileges. IF YOU HAVE UNLOCKED YOUR BOOTLOADER OFFICIALLY AND IT'S A FOTA UPDATE THEN PLEASE DON'T UPDATE YOUR DEVICE VIA FOTA IT'LL POSSIBLY BRICK YOUR DEVICE! If you want to flash clean untouched firmware before update then see this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1568792
And see this for flashtool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1351309
And see this for retaining your root status http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695514 this is for.431 firmware but I'm sure it'll work for .587 too. And before posting please do search the forum. The question you've asked has been answered a lot of time .
Sent from my smultron using xda app-developers app
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Hmmmm i think i have bootloader locked.
I found some walkthrough how to root 2.3 then flash ICS over it and keep root priv.
Will find a post in my history how i did it and post back.
I used that link before search forum statment.
And you think i should try that one?
you can download .587.ftf at sony official blog ..fully stock with baseband update
caer_ayu said:
you can download .587.ftf at sony official blog ..fully stock with baseband update
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So if i flash that one over will i keep root???
Sent from my ST15i using xda app-developers app
EvgeniyDragunov said:
So if i flash that one over will i keep root???
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Do it like explained here and flash the .587 firmware instead of .431. Should work
mihahn said:
Do it like explained here and flash the .587 firmware instead of .431. Should work
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I did root 431 from this tutorial.
So you are telling me to download offical 587 from sony site and do this one more time but with 587 rom?
EvgeniyDragunov said:
I did root 431 from this tutorial.
So you are telling me to download offical 587 from sony site and do this one more time but with 587 rom?
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Yes I would do so if the bootloader is locked...
Ok will do.
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Can someone please link me FTF from sony site cant seem to find it.
I realy hate Sony site its complicated like facebook.
EvgeniyDragunov said:
Can someone please link me FTF from sony site cant seem to find it.
I realy hate Sony site its complicated like facebook.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think that Sony offer ftf files for download...
But anyway, try this: http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/35239
or: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897749
Sprinter
The easiest way is to install a kernel that auto-roots e.g. the rage kernel and then when using flashtool select to exclude the kernel. It'll update everything and root any firmware
How to start download mode in flashtool.
What key combination?
Its volume down.
Its working but i needed to reflash ginger again root and flash .587 as stated in guide.

[Q] Rooting with locked bootloader and software updates

Does towelroot root the xperia z2 with .314 firmware ? And it roots it with the bootloader locked right? And if yes can i update the stock firmware via ota or pc companion as soon as a new stock firmware is available? Thanks !
@nicojapanese Hi m8, yeah Towelroot will root .314 Firmware (I used it with my locked Bootloader). It may update over OTA but no guarantee. You can update via Pc companion by repairing your phone (you will loose root though) then re- rooting or you can flash a FTF via Flash tool. You can find loads of usefull info and links regarding Bootloaders, Flashtool, rooting and recoveries etc here. Hope this helps ya a bit m8:good:
OTA/Usb updates will fail verifacation if rooted
Unroot and uninstall all mods and it should work, if not flash a FTF using flashtool
Envious_Data said:
OTA/Usb updates will fail verifacation if rooted
Unroot and uninstall all mods and it should work, if not flash a FTF using flashtool
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Ok how do you unroot a sony xperia z2 with locked bootloader?
stress40 said:
@nicojapanese Hi m8, yeah Towelroot will root .314 Firmware (I used it with my locked Bootloader). It may update over OTA but no guarantee. You can update via Pc companion by repairing your phone (you will loose root though) then re- rooting or you can flash a FTF via Flash tool. You can find loads of usefull info and links regarding Bootloaders, Flashtool, rooting and recoveries etc here. Hope this helps ya a bit m8:good:
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Ok if i try updating it ota and i brick it. Can i just do a hard reset and would it be working again?
nicojapanese said:
Ok how do you unroot a sony xperia z2 with locked bootloader?
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Hit the unroot button in the supersu app
nicojapanese said:
Ok if i try updating it ota and i brick it. Can i just do a hard reset and would it be working again?
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It wont brick if you try OTA update m8. It will just fail verification. Nothing more, nothing less:good:
Envious_Data said:
Hit the unroot button in the supersu app
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ok thanks . after hitting unroot in supersu i can try updating ota for new stock firmwares?
nicojapanese said:
ok thanks . after hitting unroot in supersu i can try updating ota for new stock firmwares?
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You can try m8, no guarantees though. What firmware are you on? Do you have root already?
stress40 said:
You can try m8, no guarantees though. What firmware are you on? Do you have root already?
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im in 314 . no i dont have root. because i dont want to root my phone and when the android l fw comes ill be unable to update.
nicojapanese said:
im in 314 . no i dont have root. because i dont want to root my phone and when the android l fw comes ill be unable to update.
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Worse case if you root is you'll need to install L as an ftf via flashtool, so if you want root I'd go ahead.
ghostofcain said:
Worse case if you root is you'll need to install L as an ftf via flashtool, so if you want root I'd go ahead.
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im downloading the xperia flashtool. is that the correct one?
ghostofcain said:
Worse case if you root is you'll need to install L as an ftf via flashtool, so if you want root I'd go ahead.
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if i install an ftf from another region (generic unbranded nordic) but im from another (philippines) will it be ok?

Xperia Z2 Android 4.4.4 (23.0.1.A.0.167) ROOT AND RECOVERY

Is there any root available? Does the old method works? Also does it work on locked bootloaders?
tazoman said:
Is there any root available? Does the old method works? Also does it work on locked bootloaders?
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I recently rooted my locked z2 with this file. And for recovery i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
Dont forget to hit the thanks button
Surajn97 said:
I recently rooted my locked z2 with this file. And for recovery i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
Dont forget to hit the thanks button
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anyone try ????
Surajn97 said:
I recently rooted my locked z2 with this file. And for recovery i used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2785598
Dont forget to hit the thanks button
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R U talking about latest fw?
tazoman said:
Is there any root available? Does the old method works? Also does it work on locked bootloaders?
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Not at this moment no, but it appears that a pre-rooted zip isn't far off.
ghostofcain said:
Not at this moment no, but it appears that a pre-rooted zip isn't far off.
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not too far off
http://scr.hu/2tqx/5nj0a
Envious_Data said:
not too far off
http://scr.hu/2tqx/5nj0a
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Could you provide a link to the the zip (or thread if any) to check it out? I would love to have a bit of hands on experience with the newest fw.
P.S: Havent tried it, I cant live without root .
Thanks
DaGhostman said:
Could you provide a link to the the zip (or thread if any) to check it out? I would love to have a bit of hands on experience with the newest fw.
P.S: Havent tried it, I cant live without root .
Thanks
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for now ill post another screenshot as it isnt uploaded
http://scr.hu/2tqx/oo4fw
you will find a thread in the development section when its done uploading
there are some small problems which i wont be able to fix just becaue of lack of time, ill be leaving it upto Niaboc if he wants to fix it
Thanks for the fast reply! Can't wait to get on it.
This rooting method doesn't work on latest 4.4.4 for Z2
Sent from my D6503
Is it the latest 4.4.4 for Z2? And is it pre rooted? Which means can I flash this on my locked Z2?
Sent from my D6503
tazoman said:
This rooting method doesn't work on latest 4.4.4 for Z2
Sent from my D6503
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Please, let me know when it will be possible to ROOT 23.0.1.A.0.167 Stock fw with locked bootloader. I will be very grateful.
Pishtiko said:
Please, let me know when it will be possible to ROOT 23.0.1.A.0.167 Stock fw with locked bootloader. I will be very grateful.
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You will likely be waiting some time, because it's possible to downgrade and flash pre-rooted zip or to OTA certain FW's maintaining root, I don't see devs putting a lot of effort into finding an exploit. That said best hope is probably an exploit being found for Z3 which is transferable to Z2, but as I say you may be waiting some time.
So what you recommend to do if i want to have root on 167?
Tusnal said:
So what you recommend to do if i want to have root on 167?
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Try to create a rooted update package from the update ftf: [4.4.4] Create ROOTED update package from stock FTF [LOCKED BOOTLOADER]
So I need to flash dual recovery to do that
How can I make a full stock backup just in case I need to use it for warranty?
Tusnal said:
So I need to flash dual recovery to do that
How can I make a full stock backup just in case I need to use it for warranty?
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You don't need, you can flash back an original ftf anytime or repair with Sony PC Companion. We are talking locked bootloadr, so until you don't unlock it, you have warranty.
But if you already have root on prev. firmware, you should install DualRecovery and boot into TWRP and you can backup your system there.
norti said:
You don't need, you can flash back an original ftf anytime or repair with Sony PC Companion. We are talking locked bootloadr, so until you don't unlock it, you have warranty.
But if you already have root on prev. firmware, you should install DualRecovery and boot into TWRP and you can backup your system there.
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I just bought the phone and I really miss root hehe so if I don't unlock the bootloader I can change recovery and flash a stock root rom without losing warranty?
Tusnal said:
I just bought the phone and I really miss root hehe so if I don't unlock the bootloader I can change recovery and flash a stock root rom without losing warranty?
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Yes, if you have older firmware on the phone, you can try the root options available and you can use recovery without unlocking th bootloader. If you have the latest, than you can possibly flash an older firmware to your phone and root that. But you need to read a bit, to understand everything correctly.
I have successfully rooted my Z2 on 4.4.4 locked bootloader
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