I purchased Titanium Pro. I know its an extremely efficient, powerful, and useful tool to have, especially for one that flashes often. But I am second guessing whether I am using it the right way. My current method seems a little bit tedious and inefficient.
Example, I do a full batch backup of my user apps & system data, easy enough. Then on a fresh ROM I would install TBU. But it doesn't seem I have a backup of my apps and data. I would then have to extract from nandroid backup. Then I would browse the created list and select the apps / data I want to restore. After restoration my user defined settings are gone, on default.
I have tried the complete batch backup. And via the same extract from nandroid backup, and rather than selecting each item, I just restored everything at once. Afterwards, I would experience strange things and a lot of FC. I suspected that may be because it was loading up apps/data that is not this newer ROM (ie apps that was baked in, ROM specific system apps), I don't know that this is the real reason because don't know enough to confirm it.
Am I using it correctly or is there a better way to it?
I use the free version, but I assume most things are the same. If you backed up all your apps and data, then I think maybe the memory storage was flipped around when you installed the new rom. Look in both your internal (emmc) and external sd cards for a folder called TitaniumBackup. This should hold all of your apk backups, along with the data associated with them. If you launch Titanium and nothing is found, then try copying that TitaniumBackup folder from the sd card it's currently located on over to the other sd card. All of your apps and data should then be found in the app under the Backup/Restore tab.
Edit: I assume you already know this but in the Backup/Restore tab, scroll down the list until you get to the crossed out apps. Those are the ones that you have backed up but not currently installed.
Make sure you save your backup to sdcard. And if you flash a new Rom. You don't normally want to restore system files.
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Sometimes even restoring apps + data can cause certain apps to FC or misbehave. But as they have said make sure your backups are in the SD card
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TB sucks! i recommend Ultimate Backup Pro. it's about 100 times better and easier to use. TB is overrated. while UBP is underrated ):
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First off let me say if this is adressed in another thread or video, im sorry!
But my question is this: How does titanium backup work?
For example, if I run a full system recovery with TB and then flash the sbf file and then load gingerblur, can I then recover all of the settings and apps from titanium backup? If so, how might one go about doing that?
Another example would be, if I return my atrix for a new atrix for whatever reason, could I recover everything after that?
Thanks in advance for all your help guys!
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When you start tibu press menu then batch, then select "backup all user apps" (I think its first). Let it run. Then you can run SBC and Ginger blur then install tibu from the market, open it press menu, batch, then go about 1/2 down to "restore missing apps with data" and start it and when its done you have all apps with settings back.
A also highly recommend buying tibu premium as it makes most of this automated.
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Ok thanks for the reply! So titanium backup creates a recovery file on the phone that wont be erased and ill always be able to access it?
Also does it work if I get a new phone?
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Yes, that would be my question as that is where I am.
I have the directory on my sdcard-ext; I've copied it to the empty directory of the same name on the sdcard yet I can't seem to get at any of my old backups.
What did I miss in the process? Is there a way to make it LOOK at this saved data?
Well I don't know about not being erased; the program backs up the application and all of its data into a folder. You can do single applications or all of them.
If you are say, resetting the phone or doing a factory reset, this is essential if you want all of your applications back the way you had them.
I'm using two phones and when I got my second, I just installed TB on it and backed up the apps that I wanted transfered wwith data (mostly games and things that don't have cloud data) and copied them to the new phone to be restored.
I just bought the pro version that gives access to dropbox and other things but I haven't used any of the features yet.
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I believe TiBu's default location is in /sdcard/titaniumbackup (From root location). Now once you back up your apps all that information is stored in that "Titaniumbackup" folder. Now what you can do is copy that folder and where, even your computer and it's saved. You can even load that folder on a different phone and run TiBu on the phone and install the apps on that phone. Usually when you flash roms or even the SBF file it wont erase the internal SD card, at least I've never had an issue with my internal SD being erased in the last 2 years. Just take your titaniumbackup folder and put it on to you internal SD card and TiBu should recognize it no problem.
As far as how it saves it, I think it saves the .apk and it also saves another with the app settings.
Hope this helps clear some stuff up.
Ok cool, thank you very much for the help!
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Hi there,
About a month ago I bought an HTC Thunderbolt and somebody helped me root the phone. Since then I have had some family emergency/issues that have caused me to put programming the phone on hold. Now that they have cleared up I am trying to now learn a little bit more about upgrading Rom/Kernel/Radio.
I am running the following:
Android 2.2.1
Baseband version 1.16.00.0223r
Kernel 2.6.32.21_bamf4.4.2....
Build 1.13.605.7Das Bamf 1.5 Remix
Software 1.13.605.7
Can somebody tell me how to backup my phone entirely?
I would like to back it up with the intent:
* Install different kernel/radio/rom and keep the same android apps without reinstalling
each one individually.
or
* Restore the phone to its current state (if I should drop the phone and get a
replacement).
I do have titanium backup pro installed but it has never been used. Is this all I need?
I seem to recall that there is a backup feature on this phone that was discouraged....
Thanks in advance...
Anthony
The key for me is to
Use Nandroid (the backup feature in recovery) for a full image backup. Use Titanium to backup individual applications.
Before restoring nandroid backups, be sure to wipe cache and Dalvik (under advanced in recovery).
Nandroid takes nearly the entire phone back to the point of backup (houses everything you have on your phone's internal memory). Titanium allows backups to be restored on different roms. Some apps and many system apps don't play nicely with Titanium, but most from the market do play nicely with it.
Installing new kernels doesn't require wiping your data. Installing new/updated roms does. Installing themes usually does not, but there are exceptions.
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Thank you for the explanation.
When you refer to Nandroid & recovery feature, you are referring to Clockworkmod?
Per your input I updated to Rom Manager PRO and then simply selected "Backup Current ROM". I assume that this covers everything on the phone including radio/kernel/apps....
If there is anything else I need to do, please let me know.
Thanks again...
Yes, CWM is how you want to backup your phone entirely. I would recommend going into recovery and making a backup on your own instead of hitting the "backup my current rom" button in rom manager. The backup you make will be saved in a folder on your SD card named clockworkmod/backup. I always think its a good idea to move your backups to your computer and keep your two or three most recent backups on your sdcard.
As for backing up your apps, you can do a batch backup in titanium and when you load a new rom you will be able restore the app and any data associated with it. As a general rule I would only backup apps that require a lot of setup. Otherwise when you load a new ROM the apps you had previously installed will automatically restore (depending on the ROM). Just a tip, dont backup system apps. Doing so and switching versions, for example froyo to gingerbread, could cause many issues down the road even if they aren't immediately seen.
Lastly, when installing a new ROM you always want to wipe data/factory reset at least twice and wipe cache and dalvik cache twice each as well. If you have any issues dont hesitate to ask there are many people who are willing to help.
Go to ROM Manager, scroll down and select Backup Current ROM.
I use two apps for backing up and restoring installed apps; Titanium Pro and MyBackup Pro. For some reason MBP successfully restores the apps + data that fail using TP. For example, apps installed from the Amazon android market.
I create full backups with both TP and MBP, but when I need to restore ( after a complete data wipe and new Rom flash) I do the following:
1) skip setting up my Google account during the initial setup process that starts after user data has been wiped.
2) Uncheck the box that allows backups to Google's servers
3) After setup is finished, go into settings, privacy and deselect the automated backup options
( If I don't do the previous two steps, then Google starts pushing apps that may have been backed up and/ or apps that I have purchased. I don't want this to happen since I am going to do my own restore with data.)
4) I use TP to restore MBP only
5) I then use MBP to restore the rest of my user apps and data.
Some may disagree with my two backup app process, but it has been more successful for me than using either TP or MBP by themselves.
If something doesn't go right with MBP, I still have the full TP backup to pull from.
I do not bother backing up systems apps just because it seems to cause me too many issues when i attempt the restore. This means i have to redo any system settings, but that isn't a big deal to me.
Some of my favorite apps have backup features of their own. Folder Organizer and Circle Launcher are two of my all time favorites. Both restore nicely when i move to a new Rom.
Occasionally, i copy the TP, MBP, and Clockwork folders from my sdcard to a folder on my laptop just in case.
The above may sound like alot, but it goes pretty quick for me and I flash quite a bit ( at least once or twice a week when the device is new and the Rom cookers are really active).
Another thought, I have used MBP to successfully restore my android home screen settings for sense ( part of MBP's data bu ). My preferred launcher is LauncherPro, which has its own backup and restore function.
Finally, i always do a nandroid backup before wiping and flashing to a new Rom. I also always do the backup right from clockwork mod recovery. I love the Rom Manager app and paid for the premium version quite a while ago, but i prefer to backup, wipe and flash from the recovery screen. Even if i download something that needs to be flashed using Rom Manager, I still reboot into recovery to perform the needed steps.
Hope this helps and if someone has another app backup/ restore routine they use successfully i would love to know the steps. I am open to learning something new.
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My phone is LU3700, which is one of three korean versions of O1, and I don't think it differs a lot from P500 in this situation.
The recovery is ClockworkMod recovery v3.0.2.4
I backed up three times, and deleted former two backups because I was lack of space in SDcard.
All the downloaded apps and updated system apps such as market or helper won't be executed.
When I try to execute a problematic app, it says "Application is not installed on your phone"
In the settings->applications->manage applications, the list of apps is still there, and for each app Data/Cache are also there but Application isn't(0.00B)
I guess it could be just a simple problem like permission or configuration?
Even if all the applications are really gone, I can re-install them so it's not so big deal. I just want to save the time to install them.
Is there anything I could do in this situation?
P.S. Maybe there was too small space in the SD card when the third backup was made...I think I saw a message saying the backup was completed but I'm not so sure.
Oh, it IS a big deal since I can't use even market or helper(i frequently use it)...if not it's not possible to restore, could anyone teach me how to backup those data?
this happened to me too. i think that the part of the app that is located on the sd card got deleted (if i remember correctly, these "parts" should be located on /sdcard/.android_secure, which, for some reason, does not show its contents on the phone but only on the computer, at least for me). you can always backup your apps using titanium backup and i recommend keeping only one backup at a time so you dont get confused between each one and also for the sake of space. or, instead of using titanium backup for your apps, you can make a nand+android secure backup in recovery, which also does a backup of your app data (i think)
you can confirm all of this by plugging in your phone to the computer (usb mass storage) and check the /sdcard/.android_secure folder
edit: and as for trying to restore, if theres nothing in your android_secure folder, then you have to start from scratch (unless one of your nand backups was a nand+android_secure backup)
I'm afraid that's not the case. it is not only App2SD apps that aren't working right now. they used to work without SD before.
Flash the rom again. Start everything again.
I have installed a few custom ROMs, but i'm a noob when it comes to phones, and every time i switch ROMs i start fresh with apps: redownloading them (about 100 from amazon and google), reconfiguring my home pages, and all games start back at level 1. it takes a long time to do all this, but i assumed that switching ROMs is like switching PCs (you need new drivers, you need to reinstall programs, etc, so you can't just copy A to B).
is there some better way to automate this so that any of the following are true?
-my apps reinstall themselves in a step or two?
-my homepages are reconstructed automatically? i'm guessing this is the least likely, since homepages/launchers/etc probably differ per ROM.
-my game/app data is saved and restored easily? my kids don't want to lose their ice age village
i have titanium backup free, which i have used for complete backups in the event of a phone crash or something, but i don't know about app transfers across ROMs.
thanks for any help. this would save me a ton of time in the future!!
(i'm going from rooted stock to CM10 on my nook tablet, if that matters).
back up your apps onto your sd card with this app
Some launchers (such as apex? not sure) allow you to save your configurations onto sd card and restore them later.
and not sure about game data, but maybe find the folder for the game on the sd card, make a back up and rename it back to previous folder name when you install new rom?
hope i helped
Use utilities like Go Backup or Titanium Backup .
They will help you restore app+data so you are always with current data.
Go Backup helps you restore call log as well
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assist4tech said:
Use utilities like Go Backup or Titanium Backup .
They will help you restore app+data so you are always with current data.
Go Backup helps you restore call log as well
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Definitely in favor of the Titanium Backup, 'cos it can also backup/restore wifi passwords, accounts, sms, bluetooth pairings...
I'm pretty new to this android stuff. I have rooted my phone and gotten titanium backup, but I also put CWM on it. I booted into CWM and had it backup my system. So what is the difference between titanium backup and CWM? I have heard people say that you should not back up system files with titanium, just apps and user data. Does CWM cover the system backup stuff? If titanium is able to backup user data and system files, why not just use that for everything? And how come titanium can run from the OS while CWM needs to be booted into?
Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
Cwm needs to be booted into and you use it to wipe data, cache, etc. Also make a nandroid makeup of your whole system which includes system files, apps, recovery images etc. Cwm isn't really good for restore specific apps. Its good for restoring the system as a whole. That's where titanium comes in. Can back up all apps, individual apps. Freeze and uninstall. Just a lot easier to work with
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Welcome to the world of rooting
So there is a fundamental difference between using CWM/TWRP to do a backup VS doing a backup from Titanium.
Doing a backup from CWM/TWRP backs up the system as a whole - think of it as a way to restore back whatever version you have - for instance I have a backup of my deoxed stock verizon image, i can boot to that anytime - i even have one with stock that I can revert to as well.
So this backup created by CWM/TWRP are an EXACT 1:1 image of what you have on your system.
Now the backup from Titanium is more for when you flash and need to put on your apps again you could use google play to restore everything OR use Titanium. Titanium is good for backing up the apps and their data - i don't use the system function.
So usage scenarios are:
1. I need to back to another image i had > use CWM/TWRP backup
2. I just flashed to a great new ROM <insert_name> and want to have the same apps i had when i had my previous rom, install titanium open it up and restore the apps you had backed up.
I hope this helps.
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This.
You can also use titanium to do stuff like freeze applications or move them to your sd card.
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Agreed - you will want both, but really you will use Titanium on your day to day when flashing, the other is for some more safe failures - although really you will probably have few but Titanium is good for scheduled back ups etc..
Very usefull if you do nightlies as well.
OP here, thanks for the info guys. Coincidentally, after making this thread I went into Titanium to backup my user data since I hadn't done it before, and I am getting an error:
"Batch backup interrupted, insufficient free storage space"
I have 25GB on my ext card but within Titanium it shows "This folder is not writable." Something's up with the permissions. I thought I could plug the phone in via USB, then try to set the permissions on the folders. So I plug it in, but the ext card shows completely empty on the PC.
I have manually added files to the ext card through my PC in the past, so something fishy is going on. I am able to backup to the internal memory, so it looks like I need to figure out how to fix the permissions on the ext card. Within my root browser the permissions show write access for owner.
Edit: Titanium really doesn't want to save backups to the external card... But I can create them on internal memory and move them over I guess.