Hi,
Just got a S3 the other day, so now I've rooted it and flashed Omega v26 custom ROM.
Everything works fine, but one thing has been bugging me; the dialer, contact app and message app doesnt stay in memory. When they're not in memory they take like 0,5-1,5 seconds to load, which is unacceptable to me! :crying:
Is there a way to make them stay in memory, regardless..?
Thanks in advance!
I believe it's the jb leaks that have thus problem? So nothing to do really.
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sulan83 said:
I believe it's the jb leaks that have thus problem? So nothing to do really.
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So this is not an issue in ICS?
Yes, it IS an issue with ICS. A lot of people might not notice it, because, obviously, if you've just recently used the dialer or contacts app, they are still in memory and load quickly, but even in ICS, it's an issue I'd sacrifice a bit of memory if there was a way to keep them active. There's got to be a way to do it.
I have CM10 on my wife's SII and the dialer loads much faster by comparison, and there's still a lot of work to make JB fully ready for the SII, since kernel sources have not been released yet for it.
It's a shame that such a device is plagued in such an obvious way. It's the Achilles Heel of the SIII, IMO.
It's a PHONE and the dialer and contacts should be something that every user will be reaching for constantly in normal use. Can't see the reason why this cannot be solved.
donalgodon said:
Yes, it IS an issue with ICS. A lot of people might not notice it, because, obviously, if you've just recently used the dialer or contacts app, they are still in memory and load quickly, but even in ICS, it's an issue I'd sacrifice a bit of memory if there was a way to keep them active. There's got to be a way to do it.
I have CM10 on my wife's SII and the dialer loads much faster by comparison, and there's still a lot of work to make JB fully ready for the SII, since kernel sources have not been released yet for it.
It's a shame that such a device is plagued in such an obvious way. It's the Achilles Heel of the SIII, IMO.
It's a PHONE and the dialer and contacts should be something that every user will be reaching for constantly in normal use. Can't see the reason why this cannot be solved.
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A friend of mine thought of a way to work around this. I havent tried it, but in theory it sounds doable.
If you disable the built-in app killer and install another which has capability to ignore certain apps in a list when freeing up memory.
How about that? Is that worth trying? If so, whats the best app killer out there?
I have the same issue ... but with normal apps such as a twitter app or mini-games (not 3D dynamic games). I keep reloading them if I don't use them by leaving them inactive in background for more than 3 minutes give or take.
Where is multitasking for Gode's sake ?
I think its more an issue with the touchwiz contacts and dialer being very bloated. The cm10 contacts and dialer isn't always in memory, but it loads up so fast that it doesn't HAVE to be in memory. Last I checked, the touchwiz contacts can take up to 80-90mb of ram (I only have 130 contacts) which is way too much to be honest, and phone doesn't have much user free ram as it is. The only alternative is to use EX Dialer, it always stays in ram and is very fast, if you get a missed calls though they won't be cleared until you use the stock dialer, very annoying
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I think its more an issue with the touchwiz contacts and dialer being very bloated. The cm10 contacts and dialer isn't always in memory, but it loads up so fast that it doesn't HAVE to be in memory. Last I checked, the touchwiz contacts can take up to 80-90mb of ram (I only have 130 contacts) which is way too much to be honest, and phone doesn't have much user free ram as it is. The only alternative is to use EX Dialer, it always stays in ram and is very fast, if you get a missed calls though they won't be cleared until you use the stock dialer, very annoying
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Well, that sounds like a lot.
But my friend who has a Galaxy S2 doesnt have this problem (he's running 2.3) and the dialer, contacts and message app is not that different on the S3 so it should not take up much more RAM, right?
naffgorr said:
Well, that sounds like a lot.
But my friend who has a Galaxy S2 doesnt have this problem (he's running 2.3) and the dialer, contacts and message app is not that different on the S3 so it should not take up much more RAM, right?
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That's what you'd think, but it does. Even on the S2 though the contacts and dialer were slow to load, don't know what tests Samsung are doing when they optimize the software on their phones but I think the Contacts/Dialer/Messaging should always be in ram as default. 1-2 seconds might not seem like a lot to people, but when phones with inferior hardware are opening the same thing in under a second I can imagine someone pulling this face in astonishment
Edit: Just checked how much ram messaging and contacts uses in CM10. 30mb together lol, compared to the average 50mb I had with Stock TW Contacts
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Edit: Just checked how much ram messaging and contacts uses in CM10. 30mb together lol, compared to the average 50mb I had with Stock TW Contacts
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So there's a 20mb difference between stock TW dialer/sms/contact and CM10? If it's not more then that I don't see what the problem is. Would gladly sacrifice a few megabytes more RAM to get rid of that annoying lag..
Do you think this issue will be corrected in future releases?
I honestly do not think it will be corrected ever. Since that problem was present in galaxy s also...
One can certainly hope.
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Hello,
Due to the fact that I had the same problem with dialer/sms/contact on my i9300 (4.1.1) I decided to write my solution of this.
So, I did as follows:
1. root
2. edit /system/build.prop and add lines:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
sys.keep_app_1=com.android.contacts
sys.keep_app_2=com.android.mms
3. reboot
Now, these applications works perfect!
Regards,
Kondik
kondikk said:
Hello,
Due to the fact that I had the same problem with dialer/sms/contact on my i9300 (4.1.1) I decided to write my solution of this.
So, I did as follows:
1. root
2. edit /system/build.prop and add lines:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
sys.keep_app_1=com.android.contacts
sys.keep_app_2=com.android.mms
3. reboot
Now, these applications works perfect!
Regards,
Kondik
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hi kondik, what does this do? keep the 2 apps in memory all the time?
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hi kondik, what does this do? keep the 2 apps in memory all the time?
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Well, it should be... but unfortunately sys.keep_app doesn't work in JB as it turned out later so I'm looking for another solution to keep dialer, contacts and sms in memory permanently.
However the ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 line improves performance of my i9300 and now is much better.
When dialer/contacts/sms are in buffer memory then there is no lag and phone works amazing!
any news ???
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As you can see from the title, the phone app "Dialer" launches very slow every time i leave the app for more than 5 minutes. Actually its not just the dialer app but also i noticed that with some apps like messaging, it takes around 3 seconds to launch. It started to annoy me specially because, first i make calls a lot and second because i know that i am using 1.5GHz dual core processor "one of the reasons that made me buy this phone". i have tried the galaxy phones many times specially the s2 and the note and i never see that specially that their processor is technically slower. Does anybody notice that? and is there a way to solve this problem?i don't care about other apps, i just want the dialer to launches quickly like it does with the Galaxy phones and any 1.5GHz dual core processor.
Now i am using ICS rooted with locked bootloader. Still no difference than Gingerbread. still launches the app very slow. Any suggestions, Ideas?? please!
I agree. In GB there was no such issue, but the lag is very noticeable in ICS.
Very Annonying indeed.
I AGREE
there has to be a way to tweak this... some dev has to find it
Factory reset.
And don't use any ram optimizers or apps killer.
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waiflih said:
there has to be a way to tweak this... some dev has to find it
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i hope so but there is noting yet as far as i know!
gm007 said:
Factory reset.
And don't use any ram optimizers or apps killer.
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i did factory reset like a thousand times. the problem is not new with ICS , GB too was little slow with the "phone" application except that now ICS, its more noticeable. and BTW i dont use any ram optimizers or apps killer at all,actually never had! and for rooting the only apps i use are SetCPU, Root Explorer and titanium backup!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745668
i checked the stock ICS dialer that was posted in there but i didnt like it.
i then downloaded the EXdialer from the market with the black ICS theme and its FAST.
This lag in Phone drove me crazy so much that I rooted (locked bl) my phone in attempt to improve the performance.
After freezing dozens of apps for more RAM, strangely now my Phone app launches a lot faster... not sure if it is a memory issue or that in the process of reflashing I got a smoother ROM.... somehow.
I also installed the ICS Dialer as mentioned above which is very fast. I am still using the SE Phone app, but keep the ICS Dialer just in case the lag come back.
Is it possible to make Android NEVER automatically kills running apps, to have true multitasking like on Maemo and webOS?
I am really sick of it killing apps that I use.
I tried V6 supercharger, but that didn't help... I looked everywhere for an answer, but I never found one.
Surely there is a way to make Android multitask like a proper PC, where it's the user who manages apps?
(And please don't tell me that I should leave it to Android, that it knows better, and etc.)
Now, before you start defending Android:
Ever had your browser refresh the page by itself after switching to it?
Ever lost something you were writing when you switched to another app?
Ever had a video pause because you switched from the player?
That shows that Android does NOT have true multitasking.
Now, I see why Google did that - battery life. However there is a new class of devices, where battery life is not such a problem. Tablets.
And yet they still suffer from same issues.
Now, here's an example: the browser. Very often I'd come back to my browser, only to find that it is reloading the page I was on, wasting traffic, and losing whatever text I typed.
That's stupid, right?
I can even track back to what device did this first - the iPhone.
iPhone 1 had 8 times less RAM than your average high end device, yet they still have a similar problem.
So yeah. Not true multitasking. Even in the app switcher, notice that it never says "running apps", only "recent apps" - because it isn't a true multitasking app switcher, just a history of all recent apps you launched.
Go on, scroll to the very top, launch the oldest app on the list. I'm 99% sure that it has restarted. This would've never happened if Android had TRUE multitasking.
Now, there has to be a way to get that. Desktop Linux does it, so Android probably can too.
If you ever notice that the app restarts, it's the app that is badly implemented. All apps must be able to handle a restart by Android transparently to the user by saving its state. If not, tell the app developer to fix it.
Chrome, Dolphin, Boat, Maxthon, AOSP, ICS Browser+, Opera, Firefox.
That's a list of browsers that have this problem.
Do you really think that they all implemented multitasking wrong?
Again, it's a problem with Android - I don't want apps to save their state so that Android can kill them - I want them to never leave RAM at all.
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Now, here's an example: the browser. Very often I'd come back to my browser, only to find that it is reloading the page I was on, wasting traffic, and losing whatever text I typed.
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Maybe dont answer all ur questions:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...lication-is-that-frowned-upon/2034238#2034238
Apps who properly implement onSaveInstanceState() can come back, in case of web browsers is more complex to use it properly, texts or images are simple to imagine how to OS save on "disk" to retrieve later, what about sockets or open files (can be deleted while in background).
Android keep on background until the resources are needed for another task (and maybe a time limit, but dunno for sure), if happen very often w/ u means ur OS r using more resources than what need to keep on background.
Android has true multitasking, but... eh here's a link. Read yourself.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html?m=1
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But is it possible to make it so that apps do not get killed at all, just like in Maemo or a normal PC?
What you showed me is exactly why Android does not have true multitasking: it uses stuff like services to actually have less things running - and I don't want that. I want all apps to truly stay in the background - so a YouTube video would continue playing, just like when I minimize the browser on my PC, and etc.
I understand why that isn't the default behavior on phones, but it could be really useful on a tablet.
I don't want to be at mercy of app developers - since even Google messes up: every time I switch out of Google Talk, I lose what I was typing.
I'd much rather have a limited amount of apps that I can launch at a time, and be able to manage what I want to keep open myself.
What you are asking for is basically to completely change core Android behavior.
Sorry, but its just not possible
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It is possible, because it's been done. There was a guy who did it over on the V6 supercharger thread, but I don't think the how he did it was ever released. Instead it was developed into a "kill apps only when ram is REALLY needed" method, which could run up to 20 apps at a time on some phones apparently
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I get what you are talking about but I'd say is what device your using. My eVo 4g lte's was written screwed up by HTC. Maybe yours is like that too. My rom maker and other devs have done many fixes for it. It has got better but my eVo and eVo 3d still multitask better, and it is true multitasking. It doesn't work like I'm talking about on all devices, but for u to say it's all of Android.......... It's not.
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The mulittasking in Android has some limits which are quite annoying. On my Droid 3 apps that I haven't used will start in the background and waste RAM so there isn't enough RAM to multitask and the device is laggy. I tried rooting and freezing bloatware, but other apps have just filled the void by automatically running in the background. I really wish the user had more control over multitasking. Unless I open an app I don't want it to start in the background, even if there is enough free RAM. But Motorola makes some pretty bad software so this could be the issue.
On my Touchpad with CM9 multitasking is quite a bit better. Not sure if its having 1GB of RAM, improvements in ICS, or just CM but you can actually run several programs at once without them closing, so my browser pages stay loaded.
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Android has true multitasking, but... eh here's a link. Read yourself.
http://android-developers.blogspot.com/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html?m=1
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gagdude said:
What you are asking for is basically to completely change core Android behavior.
Sorry, but its just not possible
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Then how come this was possible on iOS?
My iPad 1 was a multitasking beast with just 2 tweaks - Swap and Backgrounder.
Everything was smooth. And yet I can't get the same on devices with 4 times more RAM?
gagdude said:
What you are asking for is basically to completely change core Android behavior.
Sorry, but its just not possible
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Did it weeks ago. Maximum Overdrive to bypass Maximum hidden app limit.
Just grab the Ultimate Jar PowerTools script or the windows exe version.
http://goo.gl/1JPl8
Also read Post 2 of the thread for a link to the windows.exe
Currently hacking Sense 4+ which seems to be working well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900626
Tried V6 - but apps I bulletproofed still get killed.
So yeah. Looks like the only thing I can do is wait until webOS gets ported to my tablet...
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Tried V6 - but apps I bulletproofed still get killed.
So yeah. Looks like the only thing I can do is wait until webOS gets ported to my tablet...
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Did you patch services.jar with the multitasking mods?
Yes, with "Jelly ISCream Automatic Patcher".
V6 script showed me that I'm 100% supercharged.
well...I didn't experienced these kind of problem before. android indeed has good multitasking stuff. the number of app running on background depend on the ram size. you can't expect to run such heavy app with huge ram consumption on such device with low ram. anyway, you can try to play with minfree stuff. try to minimilize the value
The Note 10.1 can have side by side applications, is this what you kinda mean?
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Yes, with "Jelly ISCream Automatic Patcher".
V6 script showed me that I'm 100% supercharged.
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Well the latest one is actually called Ultimate Jar Power Tools so if you ran that, and enable Maximum Multitasking Mods, then you should be getting better multitasking/app reloads.
The windows exe would do the same thing of course and is up to date.... well until I update it later cause I'm adding the Sense 4 mod.
Any idea about how many apps you can run before vs after?
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I have just bought an S3 and I am actually quite disappointed in it's performance.
I have an S2 (Running stock ICS) and my S3 (Running stock JB) is quite noticeably slower, with terrible lag.
I am just wondering if this is normal, surely this should out perform an S2?
The 2 main area where it is considerably slower is opening up my contacts and MMS app.
From clicking the contacts icon it takes about 2 seconds to actually load the contacts, and the MMS app takes about the same time to load.
Also when opening my app drawer it is buggy and laggy when scrolling through.
I notice that I also have little to no free RAM, yes I know how android works and how it utilises RAM but it doesn't seem right to me.
Anyone else having this problem?
I'm also running JB which should be smoother than ICS!
The firmware version I'm using is XXDLJ4
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
you are either doing something wrong or holding a faulty handset, apart from the delay in opening contacts app after heavy usage, s3 will absolutely smoke s2.
bala_gamer said:
you are either doing something wrong or holding a faulty handset, apart from the delay in opening contacts app after heavy usage, s3 will absolutely smoke s2.
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Thanks for such a prompt reply!!
It totally smokes my S2 in benchmark tests but in real usage it doesn't.
Is there any way of checking if it's faulty?
Like maybe an app that checks all 4 cores are running properly and GPU is functioning properly?
Obagleyfreer said:
Thanks for such a prompt reply!!
It totally smokes my S2 in benchmark tests but in real usage it doesn't.
Is there any way of checking if it's faulty?
Like maybe an app that checks all 4 cores are running properly and GPU is functioning properly?
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try disabling media service, its one among the reasons for possible lag, disable power saving mode if enabled
turn off Facebook sync and ripple effect
this helped me to get free ram
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mine is the same it just feels slow and laggy there's a one x in the house as well and it blows away the s3.
my s3 running ics was unusable jb helped but did not fix the phone completely I am very disappointed with it, but also stuck with it.
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2531prasad said:
turn off Facebook sync and ripple effect
this helped me to get free ram
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I don't have Facebook on my phone and I turned off the ripple effect as soon as I turned it on lol
Im shocked. How is this possible?? I bought my phone 10days ago, till now I have not seen any lag anywhere except for the contacts and phone. It will be fixed though. Moreover it fly's with the JB update, I love scrolling through the screens its damn smooth.
I doubt if you got the correct handset . Surely something is wrong. Was it like this from the first day???
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Im shocked. How is this possible?? I bought my phone 10days ago, till now I have not seen any lag anywhere except for the contacts and phone. It will be fixed though. Moreover it fly's with the JB update, I love scrolling through the screens its damn smooth.
I doubt if you got the correct handset . Surely something is wrong. Was it like this from the first day???
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The screen scrolling is fine, it's nice and smooth. It's the opening up of contacts, phone and MMS that is really slow.
I've got the latest UK JB update so it should be a lot snappier, in my opinion.
And it's definitely a S3, no doubt there. Yup it was slow right from the get go.
It's the crazy high RAM use that is annoying the hell out of me
Oh, Then go to developer options and select background process limit to 4.That should help, but if you are freaking out about the RAM, then don't cause that's how android uses the ram.
I am currently Using Liquid smooth ROM (AOSP) . I have no contacts or phone lag. Use it if you like AOSP
Use an ASOP or miui Rom! JB onS3 is good but Sammy needs to improve.
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yes your s3 should blow your s2 away and NO you shouldn't have to tweak or remove apps, live wallpaper etc.
First try a factory reset...best and simplest advice for performance issues.
Then, and only then should you need to try to find out what apps or settings are causing problems (to be honest no settings should retard performance that badly).
Then...and its a longer shot is a faulty rom installation which a reset won't fix. In that case you'll need to reflash DLJ4 from a reliable source, here on XDA, samfirmware, checkfus etc.
If still problems then your issues are hardware related and you need to visit your provider who'll have access to a maintenance centre, or even samsung themselves...assuming you're still running stock. If not you need to use a guide to restore your phone status to unmodified and a flash a stock rom first.
Good luck
Obagleyfreer said:
I have just bought an S3 and I am actually quite disappointed in it's performance.
I have an S2 (Running stock ICS) and my S3 (Running stock JB) is quite noticeably slower, with terrible lag.
I am just wondering if this is normal, surely this should out perform an S2?
The 2 main area where it is considerably slower is opening up my contacts and MMS app.
From clicking the contacts icon it takes about 2 seconds to actually load the contacts, and the MMS app takes about the same time to load.
Also when opening my app drawer it is buggy and laggy when scrolling through.
I notice that I also have little to no free RAM, yes I know how android works and how it utilises RAM but it doesn't seem right to me.
Anyone else having this problem?
I'm also running JB which should be smoother than ICS!
The firmware version I'm using is XXDLJ4
Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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you are not alone.......http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1958171 ....and this is really annoying
Mine is REALLY fast. More responsive than ics for sure.
Full wipe, stock and..
That's it
Also loading a list with 50 or 100 contacts and some having photos can not be immediate unless its already in the cache..
Definetly do a factory reset, usually fixes most of your problems.
If its being all sluggish i would suggest running "Paranoid Android [ROM]" on it, which is amazing. Or if your looking for something lightweight go, "SuperNexus".
Either way, also go to " settings > dev options " and then change all the Animation Scale (From 1x) to 0.5x it will make the animations faster.
Your phone is not faulty.
The stock contacts and sms app made by samsung are too heavy and indeed open very slow. You should try exDialer or jelly bean sms app which can be found on Play store.
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arsenix said:
Your phone is not faulty.
The stock contacts and sms app made by samsung are too heavy and indeed open very slow. You should try exDialer or jelly bean sms app which can be found on Play store.
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What he said. Samsung have done something with the contacts, phone and mms app which take 2-3 seconds to load. Stupid. I think this is only on JB though, hopefully they fix it soon.
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I only notice slowness with power saving mode enabled. Make sure its not and it should. I would use roms as close to stock as possible, IMO. Flashing and using aosp amd miui like others have stated will probably cause more niggly bits of annoyance then rectify current issues youd only replace them with new ones. Unless of course you have a rom addiction and flash every second day like me
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No problems here, but have changed a lot.
Disabled S Voice, froze all Samsung applications. Same with services like remote controls, tracking etc. Deleted bin/kiesexe since I never use KIES and the extra ram is handy to have (ROM cooks, here is an idea, ask users if they want KIES on install, if not delete it)!.
Install a good kernel and try running a SQL optimization script to speed up databases. Lastly don't touch supercharger etc to get more free ram (that is wasted ram). It'll slow down Contracts and the Dialer since it removes them from ram. They are loaded at startup for a reason.
Also lastly, turn off unneeded Startups
You should be able to find a list of unneeded services and tasks, somewhere on the forum
You'll understand why, when you look at the list of unneeded bloatware, services etc running, why it is slow. shame on Samsung.
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try wiping the cache partition in recovery mode. worked for me
The way my GP 4.0 works is odd...It's as if after every reboot, the player has a certain amount of fuel (and no I'm not referring to the battery). After usage, that fuel gets burned down and the player starts running sluggishly and eventually either freezes up and forces me to do a forced shut down or it reboots itself. I usually can't keep the thing on without a reboot for longer than 3 days. It's not a major issue, but it makes playing games rough because sometimes in the middle of a game, the player just freezes up and reboots. The battery typically never goes beyond 100 degrees F, unless I'm in a hot car or something.
Anyone else got this problem? Any suggestions? I've heard of something called Lagfix that does something like trimming or something of the sort...Yeah, noob here. Would that fix me up? Running gingerbread 2.3.5 stock rom and kernel.
How many apps do you have installed and how many are running in the background?
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iurnait said:
How many apps do you have installed and how many are running in the background?
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I have a lot installed. Not many are running in the background...I mean I froze the maps app so that it can't run. I have lookout, a CPU status widget, yahoo mail, textplus, adwlauncher, rootdim, and my battery indicator. That is, according to the running services in the settings. Any ideas?
What's using the most ram?
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What's using the most ram?
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Well according to the running services tab in the settings, it's lookout and adwlauncher. I had the problem before adelauncher though....Is my device just faulty? :/
try a factory reset and dont install anything after.
if it doesnt seem to hang, reinstall your apps slowly, one by one to see which one is causing the problem
Your player is using to much ram so it's going to restart. Use the task manager to kill any app you aren't using.
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Your player is using to much ram so it's going to restart. Use the task manager to kill any app you aren't using.
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2 problems with that. 1. in the task manager, no tasks are seen running. I almost always have around 70 mb of ram free no matter what. 2. if I use a task killer (such as advanced task killer), I can kill apps that are running (such as the ebay app...Not sure why that even runs in background), but they come back on within seconds....do I just need to uninstall apps?
I will suggest you try using advance task manager to monitor your applications, rather then the system's task manager.
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I will suggest you try using advance task manager to monitor your applications, rather then the system's task manager.
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But when I kill a task in advanced task killer to kill unwanted running apps, they come back on after like 5 seconds. However, these are apps that I'd like to have installed, such as ebay, weather, and youtube. Do you suggest just uninstalling as many as possible?
I would do a complete reset and then slowly install your apps. This way u can see what is causing the problem.
And don't install unecassary apps
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WHib96 said:
2 problems with that. 1. in the task manager, no tasks are seen running. I almost always have around 70 mb of ram free no matter what. 2. if I use a task killer (such as advanced task killer), I can kill apps that are running (such as the ebay app...Not sure why that even runs in background), but they come back on within seconds....do I just need to uninstall apps?
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Are you using a custom rom? You shouldn't have 70mb all the time. You should have at least 162mb when it just starts booting up, and then 100mb- 120mb when using it. ADW Launcher is kinda heavy on memory. Try Holo Launcher or one that doesn't use a ton of ram. I remember on mine it was Go Launcher using too much ram, and it was causing it to stutter. Also I suggest uninstall (or just doing a complete restore) some of the apps. Our players suck with managing ram imo lol.
obscuresword said:
Are you using a custom rom? You shouldn't have 70mb all the time. You should have at least 162mb when it just starts booting up, and then 100mb- 120mb when using it. ADW Launcher is kinda heavy on memory. Try Holo Launcher or one that doesn't use a ton of ram. I remember on mine it was Go Launcher using too much ram, and it was causing it to stutter. Also I suggest uninstall (or just doing a complete restore) some of the apps. Our players suck with managing ram imo lol.
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Stock rom and stock kernel. Would custom ones be better?
I do get the around 160 mb of ram when booting up. Actually, I do have around 90 mb of ram available after the boot up. Well, the thing is, is that adwlauncher has almost made it all better. It just runs so much smoother than touchwiz and i like it a lot. However, I can try another I suppose. Well that sucks. Should I start using a task killer and having it auto kill or something? I mean I don't really wanna uninstall youtube, or ebay, but I guess I could uninstall some other stuff.
Okay, so last night I uninstalled some apps that according to advanced task killer were running in the background. I've also uninstalled Lookout just to free up some more ram. now I get about 90-100 mb of ram when idle, and things are working all right for now. I'll report how it performs after a day or two...It's just a shame that the galaxy player has so little ram that I'm forced to uninstall some apps that won't even give me the option to stop them from running the background.
WHib96 said:
Okay, so last night I uninstalled some apps that according to advanced task killer were running in the background. I've also uninstalled Lookout just to free up some more ram. now I get about 90-100 mb of ram when idle, and things are working all right for now. I'll report how it performs after a day or two...It's just a shame that the galaxy player has so little ram that I'm forced to uninstall some apps that won't even give me the option to stop them from running the background.
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Custom Kernels, and roms help the player a lot imo. I would at least flash a custom kernel, because it boots the total ram from 342 to 352mb. Yeah I think that since you have a lot of apps installed it is bogging down the player. Uninstall the apps you don't need, or rarely use. I know I wished samsung would have properly upgraded our players. Instead we got the 3.6, and 4.2 which do some things better, but other things worse. They made the 5.8 but to me it's not worth the money.
obscuresword said:
Custom Kernels, and roms help the player a lot imo. I would at least flash a custom kernel, because it boots the total ram from 342 to 352mb. Yeah I think that since you have a lot of apps installed it is bogging down the player. Uninstall the apps you don't need, or rarely use. I know I wished samsung would have properly upgraded our players. Instead we got the 3.6, and 4.2 which do some things better, but other things worse. They made the 5.8 but to me it's not worth the money.
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Okay so unfortunately, I just got another crash/reboot. I was playing Draw something with my sister when suddenly it began to hang for about 4 seconds and then just reboot. This is the normal crash I used to get, and always get after about 3 days of having the thing on and using it. I had plenty of open ram when this happened. before I opened draw something, I had about 100 mb of ram.
Uninstalling apps has cut down on the amount of lag and hangs I get, but I still get this stupid reboot deal after a while...Is there any way to make this stop? I mean I could just do a factory reset, but I almost don't even think it's worth having to redo everything just to fix rebooting once every 2 or 3 days.
WHib96 said:
Okay so unfortunately, I just got another crash/reboot. I was playing Draw something with my sister when suddenly it began to hang for about 4 seconds and then just reboot. This is the normal crash I used to get, and always get after about 3 days of having the thing on and using it. I had plenty of open ram when this happened. before I opened draw something, I had about 100 mb of ram.
Uninstalling apps has cut down on the amount of lag and hangs I get, but I still get this stupid reboot deal after a while...Is there any way to make this stop? I mean I could just do a factory reset, but I almost don't even think it's worth having to redo everything just to fix rebooting once every 2 or 3 days.
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If your galaxy player is rooted I would try installing a custom kernel and see what happens. Because 1) It gives you the ability to overclock to 1.2 ghz (If you buy tegrak or set cpu you can overclock to 1.3 or even 1.5ghz). This helps with lag and memory issues from my experience, and 2) You can make a backup of your files on your device using ClockWorkMod, so you don't have to redo everything if factory resetting doesn't work.
But most likely I think you are going to have to just do a factory reset. Usually that fixes the memory problem since it resets everything on the player. But be warned flashing kernels and roms does void your warranty and can mess up your player if not done right. However, there's tons of tutorials on how to do it. If you like it stock, , iJimaniac has made a custom rom called R.E.D.D it uses the stock kernel with a modified version of the stock rom.
Also do you mind taking a screenshot or picture of your taskmanger and apps?
obscuresword said:
If your galaxy player is rooted I would try installing a custom kernel and see what happens. Because 1) It gives you the ability to overclock to 1.2 ghz (If you buy tegrak or set cpu you can overclock to 1.3 or even 1.5ghz). This helps with lag and memory issues from my experience, and 2) You can make a backup of your files on your device using ClockWorkMod, so you don't have to redo everything if factory resetting doesn't work.
But most likely I think you are going to have to just do a factory reset. Usually that fixes the memory problem since it resets everything on the player. But be warned flashing kernels and roms does void your warranty and can mess up your player if not done right. However, there's tons of tutorials on how to do it. If you like it stock, , iJimaniac has made a custom rom called R.E.D.D it uses the stock kernel with a modified version of the stock rom.
Also do you mind taking a screenshot or picture of your taskmanger and apps?
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It is indeed rooted. However, can't I already overclock to 1.2 ghz? I mean I have tegrak and it lets me overclock to that already. I don't even mind the CPU speed now, it's just the random reboots I get that bother me. And if it needs to be said, I really cannot remember if my player has always done this...
So unless flashing a kernel or rom is actually gonna make my player run smoother (I've heard that stock stuff runs smoothest because it's made for that specific device), I don't really see a need to do it. I'm perfectly fine with the way it is stock...Just not fine with the occasional bits of lag I get (temple run is basically not playable on my player, because even the slightest hang will screw you up) and the stupid reboots.
Sure. You want a screenshot of advanced task killer open (showing all the apps that are currently running)? As for apps, how do you want me to get a picture of all those? It'd take several pictures because I'd have to scroll through the apps list and take multiple pictures.
WHib96 said:
It is indeed rooted. However, can't I already overclock to 1.2 ghz? I mean I have tegrak and it lets me overclock to that already. I don't even mind the CPU speed now, it's just the random reboots I get that bother me. And if it needs to be said, I really cannot remember if my player has always done this...
So unless flashing a kernel or rom is actually gonna make my player run smoother (I've heard that stock stuff runs smoothest because it's made for that specific device), I don't really see a need to do it. I'm perfectly fine with the way it is stock...Just not fine with the occasional bits of lag I get (temple run is basically not playable on my player, because even the slightest hang will screw you up) and the stupid reboots.
Sure. You want a screenshot of advanced task killer open (showing all the apps that are currently running)? As for apps, how do you want me to get a picture of all those? It'd take several pictures because I'd have to scroll through the apps list and take multiple pictures.
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Yes about the pictures, but like I said the kernel does give you more ram so it should help. But According to iJimaniac that his rom has less bugs than stock lol.
Go and read his rom thread to get an idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2123715
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obscuresword said:
Yes about the pictures, but like I said the kernel does give you more ram so it should help. But According to iJimaniac that his rom has less bugs than stock lol.
Go and read his rom thread to get an idea http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2123715
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Some pictures...Sorry about the superuser permission box. But hey, it's a free app so whatever. If you need to know what's underneath it in any of the pictures, let me know and I'll find out and tell you.
I'm running B 0.8.4 Rom by BlaY0 on my HTC Legend for so long.
It is a very good Rom with no problem at all.
I want to change it to Android 4 ! but there are plenty of them here, each of them has some issues,
Could you please introduce the best STABLE Rom which its Android version is 4 or upper for HTC Legend?
Thank you in advance
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
What you probably should look at is, what base do those "other roms" use, I think you will find more often than not they are based on zeubea's roms anyway, with some tweaks here and there. The op really should tell you in the thread so just have a read...
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What applications can I remove without having any problems? the gps does not work. do you know help me?
thanks
leekohlbradley said:
I'm using Zeubea's CM10 rom (4.1.2). It's pretty stable and works great, I almost never have problems. Not sure if it's the best or most stable JB rom for Legend though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33684845
That said it is a big rom so you may need to prune some useless system apps. There are lots that are just junk, I deleted 20-30 apps haha. Lots of room now and runs much smoother with less overhead.
I also recommend NOT flashing the gapps Zeubea provides. Just get them from Play. Some of the latest Jelly Bean apps are almost useless for me, like Maps. I installed an old version—I think the one from Blay0's rom in fact. Works much better. I find the stock browser way too heavy, too. Camera app is way too heavy, deleted. But all these can be replaced with stuff from Play.
Remember too that JB apps are bigger in general so RAM will be limited. Just opening Settings eats 30MB.
JB roms may also trash your wifi and gps. I had problems with both but it's working ok now. Legend wifi was never legendary though haha.
Anyway, just try it!
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GPS problems:
You need to edit /system/etc/gps.conf
Use a root explorer like Root Browser to go to that file, and open with RB text editor. Or better yet, copy it to your computer and edit it there.
Change the file so it contains the information found here http://www.modaco.com/topic/331446-mod-all-roms-gps-fix/
Remove the # from the NTP_SERVER closest to where you live. If you want to add more servers you can look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1200089
Removing apps:
If you have Link2SD (and you should!!!) you can try freezing stuff for a few days and then if nothing goes wrong, delete it.
As for what to delete, certainly the stock mail program, the CM file browser (USELESS), music app... I sorted by size and deleted anything that didn't sound useful / critical. I also deleted the AOSP keyboard. It's good but doesn't have Chinese which is a must for me. I just installed another keyboard from Play. If you delete those few things your system space will free up a bit and be more than enough to give it some breathing room. I'm not sure you need more than 20-30 MB free (or any free at all, I'm kinda talking out my ass a bit haha). But it seems to stand to reason that system apps need room to store data, cache, etc., and if they don't things will get choked up real quick.
What does matter is freezing useless apps and utilities that load automatically and sit in RAM. Legend RAM is very limited and while it's true that unused RAM is wasted RAM and that task killers are worse than useless, having stuff load automatically and keep themselves in RAM is just taking up space for useful apps that will use that RAM, without question.
That said anyone with a better understanding is more than welcome to jump in!
Don't talk to me about gps my threads on the topic are enough. Basically gps either works or it doesn't, if it doesn't your out of luck my friend!
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