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so just read up on swap and had a couple more questions. i understand that it changes the way your phone handles the ram different apps use but still not understanding the specifics. if someone could clear that up it would be wonderful also will this affect battery life at all? and last question will this work on the kernel that comes with das bamf remix 1.6.3? ( i think my phone info says dirty by adrynalyne #1 ) or do i need to use the one suggested in the instructions --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1106420 here?
It turns a set amount of your sd card memory into ram essentially, and the less frequently accessed files are written to the sdcard swap partition instead of the ram, essentially freeing up the ram for the more frequently read and written data. I didnt notice any effect on battery life, and i guess the only way it would...was if it drew more power to write to sd...i believe you need to use a kernel with swap enabled like the one by imoseyon
Thanks a ton! that perfectly answered my question as for the kernel i figured as much. does anyone know if the kernel i mentioned supports swap?
Swap is created on internal space, the emmc not the SD card.
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Pretty sure I read from Adrynalyne that his kernels all had swap enabled even though he doesn't believe it works.
Mike
For windows users, swap is like your page file (just better managed). I see very little ever use swap on android though.
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Swap is created on internal space, the emmc not the SD card.
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First off love your signature and after reading some more it is definitely on emmc. which is fine cuz the thunderbolt has like what 16gb of it?
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First off love your signature and after reading some more it is definitely on emmc. which is fine cuz the thunderbolt has like what 16gb of it?
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There are also whispers going about that doing this "could" stress the emmc too much and cause your phone to an hero itself. The emmc is also possibly the leading culprit in the GB reboot of doom. Too lazy to point to source but seen this about the forums.
Truthfully I don't understand why people are putting their phones through this. EMMC is limited to how many times you can write to it. Just like a SSD drive. The first thing people do with SSD's is to either disable the swap file (page file) or move it to another drive. Putting a swap file on your EMMC is just killing the life of your EMMC even sooner. People say that you'll never kill your EMMC chip within the lifetime of your phone. But the fact is, no one knows how many writes your EMMC chip will take before degradation occurs. It's all up to the user though. Just wish people would do some research and fully understand the technology within their phones.
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Truthfully I don't understand why people are putting their phones through this. EMMC is limited to how many times you can write to it. Just like a SSD drive. The first thing people do with SSD's is to either disable the swap file (page file) or move it to another drive. Putting a swap file on your EMMC is just killing the life of your EMMC even sooner. People say that you'll never kill your EMMC chip within the lifetime of your phone. But the fact is, no one knows how many writes your EMMC chip will take before degradation occurs. It's all up to the user though. Just wish people would do some research and fully understand the technology within their phones.
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+1....Adreylane himself declared that he would not create swap on the EEMC. If he does not recommend it, I am not doing it.
I would like to, however, figure how people have so much RAM remaining on their phones safely. I only get about 120/600 free 98% of the times without having to constantly close out tasks. People in the dev forum are reporting they have had 300-400 free on Froyo. We all know GB takes more but I am on Froyo still and only have seen my aforementioned numbers.
id heard of some problems on emmc but didnt realize it was such a big deal. thanks for clearing that up before i tried it out. and im having the same issue im only getting between 100-200 free mb of ram without a task killer. is there something were doing wrong?
Hi everyone! I have a serious issue with my sdcard. Ever since the 23rd I have been unable to do anything permanent to my sd-card. I was on my vacation so all my vacation photos were deleted. It is writable, I can delete, write and change as I want but when it's rescanned all changes (delete, write etc...) were never made and it sets itself back to the 23rd. Now I have access to my computer so I formatted the sdcard hoping it would fix it. After I put it in my phone all files popped back up. So my case is:
I cannot make any permanent writes/changes to it.
Formatting doesn't seem to help
Once again, it is writable (Temporarily), i took a photo and pushed it into the /system partition, it was there but not on the sdcard after reboot.
Root explorer have options for mounting it R/w and R/O (It doesn't normally do that)
I am not a noob and hate asking for help but this is a serious issue for me and I am thankful for any help i can get.
Thanks.
Retry partitioning, this time through minitool partition wizard...
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Retry partitioning, this time through minitool partition wizard...
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Will try, thanks!
Hmm, I deleted the partition and made a new one. The computer no longer detects the sdcard in the adapter. But with mass storage via usb on the phone it's detected, all the files are there, like nothing was changed......
Its getting weird :sly:
Have you partitioned using phone?
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I would say he dint unmount sd card and it lost changes/writes.
I unmount each time in settings > storage both internal and external sd and havent had an issue since i last used my old desire.
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Its getting weird :sly:
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No, but i did partition it with phone half a year ago, then i got a new phone and deleted the partition. but that was months ago. It seems like the fat32 partition is somehow broken, too bad i can't access it via the computer anymore. I guess i'll buy a new sdcard soon, perhaps one of those samsung class 10
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Hmm, I deleted the partition and made a new one. The computer no longer detects the sdcard in the adapter. But with mass storage via usb on the phone it's detected, all the files are there, like nothing was changed......
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Now when i tried the adapter with another sd-card it couldn't detect it either, i probably broke the adapter.... I guess i'll have to buy new sd-card then....
Made a video demonstration me deleting all files on sdcard, then when re-scanned, they appear again....
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Made a video demonstration me deleting all files on sdcard, then when re-scanned, they appear again....
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It is cause it dont mount unmount proberly, changes are not made, it is an android issue and or driver(can be both i dont know) i normaly use an sd card adapter and make my changes that way, works better for me.
The way you do it with android's own mount, is flawed sorry to say, it is not like this for everybody.
My own LG Optimus 2x and my Samsung Galaxy Ace have no problem with any of the 5 sdcards i got, but my desire has a hard time doing it, it can be a HTC issue but can also be related to the AOSP source and or drivers, but tbh i have no idea.
Best of luck and sorry for the late responce.
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It is cause it dont mount unmount proberly, changes are not made, it is an android issue and or driver(can be both i dont know) i normaly use an sd card adapter and make my changes that way, works better for me.
The way you do it with android's own mount, is flawed sorry to say, it is not like this for everybody.
My own LG Optimus 2x and my Samsung Galaxy Ace have no problem with any of the 5 sdcards i got, but my desire has a hard time doing it, it can be a HTC issue but can also be related to the AOSP source and or drivers, but tbh i have no idea.
Best of luck and sorry for the late responce.
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It must be something with the sdcard, I did the same via an adapter, same thing happens that way too.
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It must be something with the sdcard, I did the same via an adapter, same thing happens that way too.
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How old is it?
Could be because it is old and used alot.
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How old is it?
Could be because it is old and used alot.
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It was half a year old. 16 gb class 4
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It was half a year old. 16 gb class 4
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Some sdcard's deteriorate faster then others, i had a few in my time that died or stopped recieving data earlig on i just usualy throw them away, can be me being picky but i think some cards just arent ment to last forever, can be a factory error or wear and tear.
Maybe even "stressed hardware" sorry for my bad english but i have no idea what i can call buggy hardware other then stressed, as that is what happens when the worker or machine is stressed for making it.
Sometimes the machine makes a mistake or the worker leading into a lower life time for the hardware, most of the time the machine or the worker dont nothice it and it is shipped.
Many possibilities, my advice as a perfectionist when it comes to data is to get a new one, get one with a good review from XDA forum :good:
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Some sdcard's deteriorate faster then others, i had a few in my time that died or stopped recieving data earlig on i just usualy throw them away, can be me being picky but i think some cards just arent ment to last forever, can be a factory error or wear and tear.
Maybe even "stressed hardware" sorry for my bad english but i have no idea what i can call buggy hardware other then stressed, as that is what happens when the worker or machine is stressed for making it.
Sometimes the machine makes a mistake or the worker leading into a lower life time for the hardware, most of the time the machine or the worker dont nothice it and it is shipped.
Many possibilities, my advice as a perfectionist when it comes to data is to get a new one, get one with a good review from XDA forum :good:
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I already have a New one, the exact same type and brand. If this one breaks too i will have to complain to the company making them. But I think I am the one responsible for the damage, I did something with root explorer (I don't remember what) and a while after the sdcard was killed.
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Alright guys, I noticed today that my Titanium Backups aren't on my mount/extsd storage, and I tried to change the backup location under preferences, but it wouldn't allow me. While checking my sd card I noticed the only file stored on it is my pictures? I tried downloading apps to sd in an attempt to move titanium backup, and that's when I realized I have a serious issue I believe. I was given a message when apps to sd opened that said, "this device does not have a real primary external storage, or the primary external storage is emulated"? Whatever the hell that means by emulated I don't know? The sd card was working in the last phone I used it in.
Biggest problem is that I'm rooted, so I can't return it under warranty! At least I can't to my knowledge. I'm in serious need of some help here, I purchased the phone at the T mobile retail store, so I don't know if I can sneak it past them somehow, or if I should maybe just (it hurts to say it) brick it on purpose, and pull the old" it just shut off and wouldn't turn back on" routine?
Please guys, any and all advice will be much appreciated!
Before doing anything drastic, have you thought about maybe reformatting the SD card first? If that doesn't work then try another SD card (they do go bad you know). It sounds like something that should be easy to fix. Whatever you do please don't brick it on purpose. It's not anyone's fault that your device is now acting up after rooting it. At least do them a solid and ODIN back to stock, then try to return it if that's the case.
Hi,
You should read this thread. It should shed some light on your external SD card problem and provide a couple of methods to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672507
Glasairmell
Paging Dr B said:
Before doing anything drastic, have you thought about maybe reformatting the SD card first? If that doesn't work then try another SD card (they do go bad you know). It sounds like something that should be easy to fix. Whatever you do please don't brick it on purpose. It's not anyone's fault that your device is now acting up after rooting it. At least do them a solid and ODIN back to stock, then try to return it if that's the case.
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Yes I did format it to no avail, and I'm headed home soon where I'll try a different sd card. I don't want to brick the device, and I've had to unroot and return a phone before because of a hardware issue with the screen that wasn't my fault. The problem with doing that in this situation is that I don't believe there's a way to unroot it and go back to the stock recovery or reset the binary flash counter. As far as you saying it's not anyone's fault, it sure is my friend and it's not mine! I had a Galaxy s4g that wouldn't read an sd card two days after I got it & I had to return it. So, as far as being no one's fault, not true... It would be Samsungs fault, and rooting it had nothing to do with it. If I broke a device because of my own foolishness or stupidity, I would ABSOLUTELY NEVER try to exchange it! The entire basis of my spirituality is based on karma and I would suck it up & pay for my mistake but maintain my peace of mind. This however, I am not at fault for, and I shouldn't be responsible for faulty hardware just because I obtained root access.
This is a good read on the external SD card permission problems on the Samsung S3
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
and this is one way to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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This is a good read on the external SD card permission problems on the Samsung S3
http://www.chainfire.eu/articles/113/Is_Google_blocking_apps_writing_to_SD_cards_/
and this is one way to get around it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
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Okay I've read the links and this is very odd??? I need to hear from someone with the gs3 that they've also discover that they're phone recognizes & reads the sd card, but will not allow apps to write to it. PLEASE, someone check this and help me out here!
I REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF ALL Gs3's DO THIS, OR IF I NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO RETURN TO STOCK & EXCHANGE IT?
Sorry for the frustration, but I just spent a heck of a lot of money here, and this is a very aggravating problem....
My TB backs up to the ext SD. I had the same problem you did. Too bad I can't actually remember what I did. :crying:
When you go into TB and try to select storage location...nothing comes up but the internal?
I think I manually moved the TB folder from the internal to the external...then went back into TB to select the location...then selected the Detect button...and it came up with a list of folders that I could choose.
It went something like that. Hope that sheds some light...(sorry I cant remember exactly)
FYI...the ext SD folder is under mnt/extSD...or something like that.
I forget to mention something else guys. I am able to copy & paste my Titanium Backups as well as any other files to the sd card. So, the phone recognizes it, and it will write to external sd if I manually copy things there, but it will not allow any third party apps to write to external sd? I also cannot move apps to the sd card? This is a HUGE pain in the ass! I bought the 16gb model because that's all the retailer I my area had, so the sd card is a necessity for me. If I'm downloading torrents or other large files this could be a problem. I'm really wondering if this isn't just my phone?
It'd be great if someone here with the skills could port this mod for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
It basically makes the phone think that the external is the internal...and all files downloaded from the browsers or whatever app that doesn't allow sd access...to go directly to external.
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My TB backs up to the ext SD. I had the same problem you did. Too bad I can't actually remember what I did. :crying:
When you go into TB and try to select storage location...nothing comes up but the internal?
I think I manually moved the TB folder from the internal to the external...then went back into TB to select the location...then selected the Detect button...and it came up with a list of folders that I could choose.
It went something like that. Hope that sheds some light...(sorry I cant remember exactly)
FYI...the ext SD folder is under mnt/extSD...or something like that.
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Sorry nothing! THANK YOU! I was like 3/4 of the way to that idea, I had already copied the file, but I was just thinking maybe if I deleted the internal file, maybe now it will follow the one I copied to the mount/extsdstorage? I can't thank you enough for just confirming that this isn't a problem specific to my model. I think that this problem should be explained to everyone & stickied. This is a seriously confusing situation. Ppl who don't root or come to XDA won't have any idea why they're music, videos, or anything from third party apps aren't going to their sd cards? Some ppl may not even realize it? I don't know if it's been mentioned in another thread here yet, but I couldn't find anything in our forums about it, and I've been trying to figure out what was going on all day. I still don't understand what the hell it meant about emulated storage?
SiNJiN76 said:
It'd be great if someone here with the skills could port this mod for us.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433436
It basically makes the phone think that the external is the internal...and all files downloaded from the browsers or whatever app that doesn't allow sd access...to go directly to external.
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Is this already a widely recognized problem and I'm just late to the freaking party or what? Because I do follow threads, search the forums, and read, and I've never heard of this before... I hope they have this error fixed in roms.
I REALLY NEED TO FIGURE OUT IF ALL Gs3's DO THIS,
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All stock Samsung Galaxies S3 do this. Google in their infinite wisdom is locking down apps so they can not write to an external card that can infect other devices.
Problem is we all want more control with our external cards and there are a lot of unhappy campers with this new "feature". Gamers are especially concerned because they can not install their games to the external card to free up more space.
This is a real strong reason to buy the 32gb model and not the 16gb. One could take the stance that they are forcing us to pay a higher premium for our storage when we purchase the phone.
As I said you can do the work around with directory bind until:
1. A dev comes up with a a patch
2. You install a custom Rom like Cm9 that has patched out this security policy.
Never mind... Now that I'm using better keywords to describe the problem, and searching outside of just the US variants forum, I'm finding threads... I feel like an idiot now! Some folks are talking as if this is better? I don't see it though. I did a nandroid after root, and it only left me with around 8gb or so with my apps installed. I know its faster memory than an sd card, but it's kind of a pain. I hope I never need to download anything bigger than 8gb... Doubtful ill need my phone for anything that big though.
Sorry for freaking out and making a big deal out of this issue, but I thought my device was defective, and I wasn't using good search terms. I should have been able to figure this out without cluttering things with a two Page thread.
Glasairmell said:
All stock Samsung Galaxies S3 do this. Google in their infinite wisdom is locking down apps so they can not write to an external card that can infect other devices.
Problem is we all want more control with our external cards and there are a lot of unhappy campers with this new "feature". Gamers are especially concerned because they can not install their games to the external card to free up more space.
This is a real strong reason to buy the 32gb model and not the 16gb. One could take the stance that they are forcing us to pay a higher premium for our storage when we purchase the phone.
As I said you can do the work around with directory bind until:
1. A dev comes up with a a patch
2. You install a custom Rom like Cm9 that has patched out this security policy.
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Yes, I really wish I could take it back and pay the difference for the 32gb, but with being rooted its really not feasible. I was browsing XDA on my phone also, and I didn't even catch the link in your first post, I was only reading the links I your second post, lol. I really feel like a dummy here since my question was almost immediately answered. Also, the browser can act a little wonky sometimes on XDA. As soon as I made it home to my desktop, I was looking over the thread & knocking my forehead against the screen!
Yeah...but if someone could modify that script for our phones...(I personally use it on my Transformer...and til this day...has been perfect.) :angel:
Sorry for freaking out and making a big deal out of this issue,
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Actually you are bringing up a valid concern and one of the first to do it in this section of the US version of the S3, my hat off to you!
It would be good idea to have a stickied thread in general that addresses this. That way ppl will be well aware of how to work around it. And yes, a patch for this would be great, because some may prefer things this way, and alot will prefer the previous standards. I for one don't like this one bit!
Put a stock rom on it and go into the store. Tell them you're having issues, they can order one on their end and send it out to you.
I would know. I worked there.
My wife just gave me one of these from Woot as an early anniversary gift this morning. Haven't even fired it up yet, but at least I had the day @ work to start looking up this and that about it...
Can anyone tell me what the plusses of rooting it would be? I have a couple other rooted devices, a Viewsonic gTablet (where it was pretty much a necessity) and a Samsung Exhibit (which had so much bloat on it to get rid of).
I've seen a few people's thoughts on why they rooted their Sony, but they're pretty scattered and some were very specific...
From what I've read here, there's not much bloat on the S tablets, and there's no custom ROMs (at the moment), so I was wondering what root would get the user (aside from the increased control over the device)? I know I could run Titanium Backup and other root-needing apps, but are there any specific apps that really improve this device, but need root? Any other functionality that I'm not thinking of that you only gain with root?
I have no problem rooting it, but I don't want to do it just for the sake of doing it, either, unless it's going to improve things.
Any opinions?
Root is a necessity if you want full read/write rights for your external SD under ICS. This is probably the biggest advantage.
I personally couldn't root (bought used) and it buggs me a bit. If I could I would immediately do it just for the cause above.
All in all: DO IT
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So I read about that - can you explain that issue a little better? If you have the ICS update on it, you can't write OR read the external SD card? So it's basically useless?
You can read, but not write.
I'll give you detailed information tomorrow, as it is a bit longer ^_^
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Bought one from Woot, received yesterday afternoon, and took about half a day to get a rooted ICS. I have a rooted SE Xperia Pro, and I like it so much that rooting gives me control over system apps. -- This may only apply to me as I'm about a minimalist for apps. I'm just annoyed with the built-in apps such as meaningless games and other plug-ins. Rooting seems the only way to get rid of them and give me more ram and internal storage space.
The other thing I went for rooting was MarketEnabler. Though it was not that necessary for tablet s.
No, I agree - I hate having stuff I don't want to and will never use installed on my devices.
I opted to root mine after all. Seemed smarter to do it now and not really need it than not do it and not be able to later...
IxBUSTERxI said:
You can read, but not write.
I'll give you detailed information tomorrow, as it is a bit longer ^_^
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Wait... what??
I'd still be curious to see the full explanation of this... I bought one for my bf who isn't the most technically-inclined person so I'm tempted to skip rooting and just tell him to take the OTA for ICS... up until now I was really starting to take the position that he wouldn't miss anything.
Are you really saying that nothing can write to the SD card? Like if I save a pic in a chat app, it will save it to internal memory? If a take a video with the camera, it won't go to the SD card? Not to be dramatic, but I think my brain just exploded a little...
As an aside, I'm kind of surprised that in the six hours he was using it on and off last night, the device never prompted him to take an OTA. I assumed that if the OTA wasn't forced, at the very least it would be very persistent in reminding him it was available... at least we can delay the rooting (or not) decision a bit.
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Wait... what??
I'd still be curious to see the full explanation of this... I bought one for my bf who isn't the most technically-inclined person so I'm tempted to skip rooting and just tell him to take the OTA for ICS... up until now I was really starting to take the position that he wouldn't miss anything.
Are you really saying that nothing can write to the SD card? Like if I save a pic in a chat app, it will save it to internal memory? If a take a video with the camera, it won't go to the SD card? Not to be dramatic, but I think my brain just exploded a little...
As an aside, I'm kind of surprised that in the six hours he was using it on and off last night, the device never prompted him to take an OTA. I assumed that if the OTA wasn't forced, at the very least it would be very persistent in reminding him it was available... at least we can delay the rooting (or not) decision a bit.
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Odd that it didn't remind him - mine reminded me constantly (every time I restarted it) and had a little doodad in the notification bar at all times. I finally turned off the update check in the AiO tool just to get it to go away...
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Are you really saying that nothing can write to the SD card? Like if I save a pic in a chat app, it will save it to internal memory? If a take a video with the camera, it won't go to the SD card? Not to be dramatic, but I think my brain just exploded a little...
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To make a long story short, the fine developers of Android 4.0 decided to remove user write permissions for external SD cards. System apps can still write to the cards, but most user apps cannot. Their reason: "Well, we gave you MTP, so you don't need write permissions for external SD cards anymore." An ill made decision and a lame excuse, if you ask me, because the change now causes problems with many user apps. And this problem is not unique to Sony's tablets, it is a problem with nearly every device running Android 4.0.
If your tablet is rooted, Condi's All-in-One tool provides a quick fix for the problem.
Regarding the stock Camera app, when you take a photo or make a video, the resulting file is always saved in /sdcard/DCIM/Camera. The Camera app does not have any setting to change where its files are saved. The default action you would take (i.e., using system apps, not user apps) to move the files is to use the File Transfer app either directly or through the Gallery app (which is opened when you touch one of the thumbnails at the bottom of the camera app's screen).
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
Flash the Google edition ROM. Or you can get a micro SD card. Maybe use Google drive?
If you're in your return window, return it and get the 32GB version.
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Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Buying an external SD card is definitely the answer.
I bought a 64GB SD from Sandisk, I was having problems just like everyone else. The card would unexpectedly unmount every few minutes, so I couldn't listen to music without being interrupted. However, Sandisk is fully aware of the problems its cards are having with Samsung phones. I contacted them, they sent me a new card with an "updated firmware". I have had the card for nearly a month now, and haven't had any issues with it. They have solved the problem.
So if you buy a card that has come right out of the factory, you, too, should have zero issues. If you buy one that is a little old, you can contact them and they'll send you a new one that WILL work.
You have very few options without a SD card. 9 GB of storage is far too little, and cloud storage is just messy. You shouldn't have to rely on mobile networks to have access to your data.
Hit thanks if I helped you, and good luck if you decide to buy an SD card.
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
Jakob13 said:
Hey all, I tried looking this up already but I couldn't find what I wanted. I've nearly used up all of my phone's 9 or so gigabytes, and now I'd like to know the best way to get more room. I've deleted a decent amount of bloatware, but my misc. files still hovers at about 6.4. I've also thought of getting an sd card, but I looked it up and it seems like many people have problems with those on this phone. I'm not really sure what the best way to go about this is, so I'd appreciate any help.
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Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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Jakob13 said:
I wish I would've waited until they released the 32 gb version, but I'm well past the return date. I've deleted most bloatware I don't want, but I still would like to keep some of it, so I can't flash the google edition rom. I'd rather just delete it myself, but I'm using root explorer and I heard that causes problems. I'll probably just get an sd card and update my phone. I don't know how seeing as I've rooted it, but I can worry about that later!
I still don't get how there can be so much bloatware. I know there's the OS, but that can't be more than 4. Most of the bloat apps aren't even that big. Anyways, thanks for the help.
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No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
najaboy said:
Your misc files should not change if you delete bloat. If it did decrease in size, that would be a major cause for concern, as those don't represent the bloat you deleted. Debloating really isn't going to gain you any usable space because the apps that you are deleting reside on the system partition. Bloated or not, that partition is going to remain the exact same size regardless. Deleting apps from it does not make that space available to user apps or storage- it remains available only to /system.
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I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
Spike96 said:
No, you won't have to update your phone. Your phone wasn't causing the problem. When I said they "updated the firmware" I was talking about the SD card. If you get a Sandisk card straight out of the factory now, it should work with your S4 regardless of your root status or your custom rom.
So to be perfectly clear, Samsung didn't update its firmware, Sandisk did.
If your SD card doesn't work, simply contact Sandisk and they'll send you one that works. Simple as that. You WILL NOT have to change ANYTHING with your phone.
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I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
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I was under the impression that doing that does free up space. An sd card really is my salvation here.
I know little about how moving apps to sd cards works, but I was saying that because I rooted before the new update so I'll need to update to move apps unless apps2sd works.
najaboy, I have a question because you seem to be knowledgeable about this. How is it that just system memory takes up 6.38 GB? Is it because of Samsung exclusive features like touchwiz and all those airgimmicks?
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AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
And about your question to najaboy, the 6.38 GB is everything that makes your phone's software. Yes, air gestures, smart stay, all of that. I do find it a little misleading Samsung advertises a 16GB phone, but I like keeping my data on a card anyway.
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Spike96 said:
AH! Ok I see what your saying. I don't think it is necessary to lose root to move apps to your SD, though. I've seen a lot of positive comments about Foldermount. Foldermount should free up space in your internal storage no problem. Check it out.
I'm also pretty confident that soon the rom devs will incorporate the update that Verizon put out into their own roms.
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Root is a prerequisite.
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