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Have been drawn towards MiniCMSandwich for my Xperia Mini Pro as would love features of ICS on my phone
However, was thinking of all ROMS and thought maybe there was a better ROM for me? Of course, one of the most popular in CM7 but would it work for me? I want ideally the menu etc of ICS as well of the reported speed of it but which ROM will give me that?
Secondly wanted to ask about Flashing. On the Wotanserver website I have seen I can flash to 4.0.2........ but what problems would that have? Or would it be better than the MiniCM ROM?
Or should I just wait until SE release the official update in 2 months?
Thanks
Your phone already has 4.0.2.A.0.xx update. Just check in Settings-About Phone. WotanServer offers stock firmware and kernel for all 2011 Xperia phones(and lots others). You can use it to restore your phone to fully stock system if you need it, like when ICS comes out, then you need to have fully stock.
Hybrom is currently stock-based and stable with lots of customization.
Most other custom ROMs(MiniCM, CM7, CM9 etc) have quite lots of bugs, but you need to read the ROM's topic to find these out.
I have Live with Walkman myself, so I am not aware for another phones.
You can try out different ROMs, install one, try for some time, if you don't like it, install another one etc.
Custom ROMs will require custom kernel also(some of these include self, some don't) and unlocked bootloader(if you do that, stay away from OTA updates, else you will brick your phone). Don't forget these
If you decide to stay on stock ROM, get it rooted(you can read my tutorial, if you need help with it) and get rid of some unneeded system apps. Also, then you can yourself customize it as much as you want.
Someguyfromhell said:
Your phone already has 4.0.2.A.0.xx update. Just check in Settings-About Phone. WotanServer offers stock firmware and kernel for all 2011 Xperia phones(and lots others). You can use it to restore your phone to fully stock system if you need it, like when ICS comes out, then you need to have fully stock.
Hybrom is currently stock-based and stable with lots of customization.
Most other custom ROMs(MiniCM, CM7, CM9 etc) have quite lots of bugs, but you need to read the ROM's topic to find these out.
I have Live with Walkman myself, so I am not aware for another phones.
You can try out different ROMs, install one, try for some time, if you don't like it, install another one etc.
Custom ROMs will require custom kernel also(some of these include self, some don't) and unlocked bootloader(if you do that, stay away from OTA updates, else you will brick your phone). Don't forget these
If you decide to stay on stock ROM, get it rooted(you can read my tutorial, if you need help with it) and get rid of some unneeded system apps. Also, then you can yourself customize it as much as you want.
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Thank you for that. When you say my phone has the 4.0.2 update available does that mean I can get all the features of ICS? So the menu/home screen etc?
In your opinion, would you say that you should go for a Custom MiniCMSandwich, or then wait until June and get the official 4.0 update from SE?
Or am I misunerstanding and is ICS with all features already available for my XMP?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
Thank you for that. When you say my phone has the 4.0.2 update available does that mean I can get all the features of ICS? So the menu/home screen etc?
In your opinion, would you say that you should go for a Custom MiniCMSandwich, or then wait until June and get the official 4.0 update from SE?
Or am I misunerstanding and is ICS with all features already available for my XMP?
Thanks
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No, it is Android 2.3 Gingerbread, but 4.0.2.A.0.xx is a version number for Gingerbread update. ICS is not released yet.
I haven't tested MiniCMSandwich myself, haven't had time nor interest. Also, I have a Live with Walkman, which means some parts are not working on this ROM at the moment(from what I have read).
I use a MIUI ROM(link in my signature, click the ROM name), but this version is only for Live with Walkman. At least it works fine for me, only some small bugs that are not a problem for me.
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No, it is Android 2.3 Gingerbread, but 4.0.2.A.0.xx is a version number for Gingerbread update. ICS is not released yet.
I haven't tested MiniCMSandwich myself, haven't had time nor interest. Also, I have a Live with Walkman, which means some parts are not working on this ROM at the moment(from what I have read).
I use a MIUI ROM(link in my signature, click the ROM name), but this version is only for Live with Walkman. At least it works fine for me, only some small bugs that are not a problem for me.
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Hmmmmm... Not sure now whether to stick with 2.3 for now then go for the proper ICS update later in June or get ICS now with a few little bugs.
The MIUI ROM for XMP has quite a few problems such as data not working so don't think that is an option for me
Any other ICS ROMS or is that it?
Thanks
subbyhasan said:
Hmmmmm... Not sure now whether to stick with 2.3 for now then go for the proper ICS update later in June or get ICS now with a few little bugs.
The MIUI ROM for XMP has quite a few problems such as data not working so don't think that is an option for me
Any other ICS ROMS or is that it?
Thanks
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MIUI is ICS based, even though it's visual part and some other stuff are completely different.
for gingerbread i would definitely recommend Hybrom v16, completely stable, lighting fast, really good package.
for ICS: MiniCMsandwich by Kamarush, works really well, not as stable as Hybrom, but for ICS very acceptable.
any custom rom is better than stock, the least would be a rooted stock to get rid of all the bloatware, that really helps with speed AND battery.
batman368 said:
for gingerbread i would definitely recommend Hybrom v16, completely stable, lighting fast, really good package.
for ICS: MiniCMsandwich by Kamarush, works really well, not as stable as Hybrom, but for ICS very acceptable.
any custom rom is better than stock, the least would be a rooted stock to get rid of all the bloatware, that really helps with speed AND battery.
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I obviously know how to root, but after rooting how do I get rid of the bloatware? Is there a thread made or a website I can you use that explains it?
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I obviously know how to root, but after rooting how do I get rid of the bloatware? Is there a thread made or a website I can you use that explains it?
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Maybe this would help.
List of safe-to-remove apps
I had stock till 4 days back. I Unlocked bootloader and first rom i tried was MiniCMSandwhich and then others one by one and finally came back to MiniCM.
Have some gyro sensor problems(cannot play games) but have not experienced other bugs. It is highly stable ICS rom for XM.
I recommend you to try it.
Don't flash this as you already have one from ur ICS ROM! I just did not see any Stock Kernel that is the reason why i made a thread!
Haven't seen a stock ICS 4.0.3 kernel in development section so i m just dropping stock kernel in case some one needs it.
It meant we'll have mod kernel soon? Better battery faster ... everything.
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ummm... what?! Is this i717 specific, or just the AOSP 4.0.3 kernel? How did we get this for the i717 without source? Where is it from? So many questions!!!11 lol
If this is for real, someone please throw a bucket of ice water (and/or trout) on Da_G...
I have tried to use this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=20806471&postcount=1 to inject init.d support into the stock kernel but cannot tell if it worked. It worked on the stock ICS kernel for the Asus Transformer according to this post. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23005237&postcount=104
Anyone else more familiar with init.d care to try it? It did give me an init.d folder, and the command prompt on PC seemed like it was successful but I can't tell from the file it placed in init.d after first boot if it was successful or not. I tried putting a supercharger script in the init.d folder but it doesn't seem to be working.
edit: Also at the risk of sounding dumb I don't know what set permission as 755 is. I tried to set the permissions of the folder to match the other folders in the directory.
I don't understand why are guys so happy about this ?
This kernel (boot.img) is already in ICS ROMs,
you can just unzip one of those ROMs or the leak and there you have it !
They need kernel SOURCE to do overclock etc.
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Jckpsa said:
I don't understand why are guys so happy about this ?
This kernel (boot.img) is already in ICS ROMs,
you can just unzip one of those ROMs or the leak and there you have it !
They need kernel SOURCE to do overclock etc.
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I was assuming this was source... which, as my previous post indicates, wouldn't make sense.
Otherwise, you're right, this isn't anything special. Nice to have separately? Sure, I guess...
so what is a kernal is this a ics leak, im a nubie and pretty stupid.
thanks
Guys, this is STOCK ICS 4.0.3 Kernel. In other words, the kernel that was provided with the leak. It's unmodified.
zer0nine said:
Guys, this is STOCK ICS 4.0.3 Kernel. In other words, the kernel that was provided with the leak. It's unmodified.
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yes we know this.......which is not that useful for the dev....as they need the source code for the kernel.....without the source code....we can't OC/undervolt and do all the lovely things that we need...
I've been wanting a stock ICS version as there have been a few bugs that I can't get away from with the two mods I've tried... Maybe it's ICS, maybe it's me, but now I can see how the original runs. Thanks!
Surrylic said:
I've been wanting a stock ICS version as there have been a few bugs that I can't get away from with the two mods I've tried... Maybe it's ICS, maybe it's me, but now I can see how the original runs. Thanks!
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You do know this is just the kernel right? If you flash only this after a full wipe, you're not going to have a booting Android phone.
You sure? I would think it would be more like flashing it to what is already in it, unless, this is not for the i717.
thair7391 said:
You do know this is just the kernel right? If you flash only this after a full wipe, you're not going to have a booting Android phone.
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C0BRA01 said:
You sure? I would think it would be more like flashing it to what is already in it, unless, this is not for the i717.
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I think he means if you flash it after a "full" wipe, meaning clearing the system. If you just do a data and cache wipe it should be fine, if of course you are running an ICS ROM.
live4nyy said:
I think he means if you flash it after a "full" wipe, meaning clearing the system. If you just do a data and cache wipe it should be fine, if of course you are running an ICS ROM...
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...which already has the same kernel, so there would be no point.
If this isn't source, then I don't understand what this is for. Every i717 ICS leak currently available has this kernel already included. Having it on your SD card just in case isn't really going to do anyone any good, since everyone running any of the currently available ICS ROMs is already running this very kernel. If this is acceptable, then I won't be surprised to see others parting out the leak and posting pieces of it in the dev section, when it really belongs in General since it isn't source. Please don't flame me, just trying to make a point.
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If this isn't source, then I don't understand what this is for. Every i717 ICS leak currently available has this kernel already included. Having it on your SD card just in case isn't really going to do anyone any good, since everyone running any of the currently available ICS ROMs is already running this very kernel. If this is acceptable, then I won't be surprised to see others parting out the leak and posting pieces of it in the dev section, when it really belongs in General since it isn't source. Please don't flame me, just trying to make a point.
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It's pretty useful for noobs who flashed DaG's kernel mistaking it for an ICS kernel.
OP is pretty misleading. There is no reason to flash this at the moment.
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Actually, I dont understand what the big deal is...
There are stock roms in the development thread aren't there?
Stock Odin recovery image:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1506330
Stock boot & recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1504999
Strange that no one *****ed about these being in Android Development... I dont see what the difference is.
All this is is the stock kernel from the ICS leak taken out and made available for flashing in case you want to flash the stock kernel FROM THE ICS LEAK (so, if you are still on stock GB, this wont be helpful, this is ONLY useful if you are running the stock, unmodified ICS leak and have changed the kernel and want to revert back to the stock ICS kernel from the leaked ICS rom).
The OP is pretty self explanatory, in fact, the title of the thread is pretty self explanatory. I mean, ICS 4.0.3 STOCK KERNEL sounds pretty clear to me.
My only beef is not with the thread or its location but the lack of organization on XDA. There should literally be a category for ROMS, another for mods & themes & apps, and another for stock images. Q&A should be removed and combined with General. Given the limitation of the current choices, this doesnt fit under General, Q&A, Themes and Apps, or Accessories. The next best fit is Android Development. This is of course all my opinion.
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Stock kernels belong in General.
littlewierdo said:
All this is is the stock kernel from the ICS leak taken out and made available for flashing in case you want to flash the stock kernel FROM THE ICS LEAK (so, if you are still on stock GB, this wont be helpful, this is ONLY useful if you are running the stock, unmodified ICS leak and have changed the kernel and want to revert back to the stock ICS kernel from the leaked ICS rom)
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I really didn't want to jump back into this, and it seriously doesn't bother me at all that this was posted... that said, there are NO modified ICS kernels on our Notes right now (we're all on the same kernel at the moment), so this won't become useful until someone modifies one (as appdroid apparently intends to do to add init.d) -- and even then, it will need to be replaced once the official ICS build/source gets released.
Either way, like I said, this thread doesn't bother me at all... appdroid's dev efforts on the Note are much appreciated!
I have rootet ray 2.3.4
4 navigator programs,and 45 other aplication and games and 8gb class2 microSD.
190-200mb free rom.The mobile is amazing fast
Why i need a kernel(many have problems) or not stock rom?
Why indeed
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The question makes little to no sense, but I will try to answer your question, A kernel is needed for every Operating System, it is what connects the hardware to the software, and is specific to each device, Custom Kernels are kernel's developed by custom developers and as a result they may have some issues.
A stock rom is what comes with the phone when you buy it, a customized version of android in it's own right, which is official in sony's eyes, which comes with it's own official kernel, which may also come with some issues.
His question was "what reason do I have to switch to a custom rom (and kernel)?"
One answer is because you're running an outdated OS.
Another is to fix issues the stock version may have.
And another is for extra features not included in the stock rom.
Icel.me said:
His question was "what reason do I have to switch to a custom rom (and kernel)?"
One answer is because you're running an outdated OS.
Another is to fix issues the stock version may have.
And another is for extra features not included in the stock rom.
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I dont think so. I think he asks why should we change kernel although with the stock kernel, phone still fast.
Well, with stock kernel you have a limit. You can not overclock, undervolt, and some other actions which can make your fast android phone becomes smarter and faster.
Correct me if I am wrong.
P.S. if you are using GB, it is better to try to install Aire's kernel. And you can answer your own question.
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because
we can
overclocking, jellybean, nicer visuals (come on, gb is fugly compared to ics or jb), speed (jb is much faster/smoother than ics, no matter what ics-rom you use)
isolove said:
I have rootet ray 2.3.4
4 navigator programs,and 45 other aplication and games and 8gb class2 microSD.
190-200mb free rom.The mobile is amazing fast
Why i need a kernel(many have problems) or not stock rom?
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Please post in thread Q&A or General. Thanks you
By Rizal Lovins [email protected]"Love Indonesia"
Hello xda...i am trying to port a rom to my x10 mini(locked bootloader) from x8... the x8 rom is for unlocked bootloader but when i flash it there is a problem with the display(it displays only some bold straight lines and other strange things) so i am trying to use minicm9 as base rom but it requires unlocked bootloader....
(i think i have to search the lib folder but i am not so sure?) can you help me?
thanks
devilakos said:
Hello xda...i am trying to port a rom to my x10 mini(locked bootloader) from x8... the x8 rom is for unlocked bootloader but when i flash it there is a problem with the display(it displays only some bold straight lines and other strange things) so i am trying to use minicm9 as base rom but it requires unlocked bootloader....
(i think i have to search the lib folder but i am not so sure?) can you help me?
thanks
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Any ROM that requires an unlocked bootloader requires a custom kernel to work. Using MiniCM9 will need the nAa-ICS kernel or it will not work.
The only option you have is to use a ROM for stock kernel as base, in which case you're restricted to using no higher than Gingerbread. But I'm guessing the ROM you're trying to port is an ICS ROM and in that case, it won't do you any good.
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Any ROM that requires an unlocked bootloader requires a custom kernel to work. Using MiniCM9 will need the nAa-ICS kernel or it will not work.
The only option you have is to use a ROM for stock kernel as base, in which case you're restricted to using no higher than Gingerbread. But I'm guessing the ROM you're trying to port is an ICS ROM and in that case, it won't do you any good.
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ive suspected that...but, isnt any way to mod the rom to run on stock kernel? or can i use any lib or any file from the mini cm9 to make the display usable on the rom i am trying to port? (the rom that i want to port is from x8, so almost everything is similar,exept the display and the camera)
thanks
devilakos said:
ive suspected that...but, isnt any way to mod the rom to run on stock kernel? or can i use any lib or any file from the mini cm9 to make the display usable on the rom i am trying to port? (the rom that i want to port is from x8, so almost everything is similar,exept the display and the camera)
thanks
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I think your base-rom would have to be compiled from source against the stock-kernel in order to make it work, which requires a huge amount of work.
I don't think you can make it work by just modding or changing libs, that usually only leads to bootloops.
And apart from that, i doubt the stock-kernel is performant enough to give a reasonable user-experience for ICS or JB Roms.
Has anyone made a stock.13 cwm flashable zip
For mini pro and alike devices , I want .13 to base my own Rom , also on this Chinese site they saying they got tipo jb on 2011 devices.I dont beleive it , and does anyone know what , maybe we could sort the irushi.13 to work with mdpi device s then maybe ask a keernel god like doomlord or naa to build .13 spec stock kernel for us , we need a better base rhan 587 , I find 431 better for singal on xmp
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darkmash said:
Has anyone made a stock.13 cwm flashable zip
For mini pro and alike devices , I want .13 to base my own Rom , also on this Chinese site they saying they got tipo jb on 2011 devices.I dont beleive it , and does anyone know what , maybe we could sort the irushi.13 to work with mdpi device s then maybe ask a keernel god like doomlord or naa to build .13 spec stock kernel for us , we need a better base rhan 587 , I find 431 better for singal on xmp
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Get the stock .13 ftf file and follow this tutorial to get the stock system.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=42649164
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From what I have heard, 4.1.B.1.13 is a branded firmware, only for certain regions and/or operators. Most likely it does not include any improvements/changes, except region/operator-wise changes, compared to 4.1.B.0.587.
Someguyfromhell said:
From what I have heard, 4.1.B.1.13 is a branded firmware, only for certain regions and/or operators. Most likely it does not include any improvements/changes, except region/operator-wise changes, compared to 4.1.B.0.587.
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Thx, for this info helped me alot. i only seen as it was signed by a industrial company for whole 2011 lineup, but saw this fw only on ray. In internet.. It was quite confusing as i thaught sony does a.last update to ozr devices. But hope dies at last
Now im clear