look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Its the next gen snapdragon S4 plus krait processor..u can find out about those over at their site Qualcomm Snapdragon Processors. Just because S3 and HTC ONE X has quad core doesnt make it act fast coz despite of the cores, the normal apps doesn need to use the quads. May be ull get better gaming fps and smoothness with tegra 3 but when its come to web browsing, stability and working potential the snapdragon chipsets actually does a lot of good work. Waiting for the LG Optimus G. Heard they used S4 PRO Quad Krait
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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look at this : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_tx_t_and_v_benchmarks_are_here_promising_too-news-4722.php
in the results, the new line of sony xperias, r getting better results on benchmarks than galaxy s3. How can it be? How xperia t with almost the same specification than xperia s gets better results than galaxy s3 with his quadcore processor ?
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Because cores != performance.
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Because it's not about number of cores.
Typically the phones with more cores run them at slower clock speeds, canceling out the difference.
It's all about getting a BALANCED spec, which includes I/O rates, flash speed, memory channels, memory bandwidth, cpu cores, cpu power management latency and literally hundreds of other factors.
Both Sony and Samsung are tier 1 manufacturers, which is why they know how to spend money in the right areas when it comes to component costs.
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and about the difference on results between xperia t and xperia s?
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XS Use S3 processor, No Ext Memory, no LTE, 12mp camera
While XT S4 processor, Ext Mem, LTE support, and 14mp camera
If you talking about benchmark
Its pretty far i think thanks to the S4
But the downside is the illumination bar
I really love that bar. if xperia T have that bar i will upgrade without thinking anymore
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Quad Krait
Sounds pretty scary
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The new gen S4 PRO comes in two form, Dual and Quad..LG Optimus G went with the Quad 1.5GHz and a shattering 320GPU. Its gona be pretty fast in 3D rendered games for sure and as its Qualcomm then u can very easily bet that there battery consumption will be less than usual Quads
Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
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Qualcomm doesn't use reference ARM Design. they just get the license for A9/A15.
They have their own Design like Apple with their SoC.
The Sony Xperia S has the MSM8660 which is a Snapdragon S3 (45nm, Single Channel RAM, Andreno 220 GPU).
The Sony Xperia T has the MSM8260a which is a Snapdragon S4 (28nm, Dual Channel RAM, Andreno 225 GPU).
The difference is also in the architecture.
S3 = Scorpion: This is the own Design of Qualcomm which is compareable with ARM Cortex A9
S4 = Krait: This is also designed by Qualcomm and is compareable with ARM Cortex A15
The performance of Snapdragon SoC's is incredible. Its not just, that Android is not yet optimized for Quad-Core SoC's but also the Design.
There are already benches available showing the APQ8064 which is a Quad-Core with Andreno 320 GPU. There is no compareable SoC at the moment and if I'm not wrong the LG Optimus G will get this SoC (Q1/Q2 2013).
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For better GPU performance, i have seen Qualcomm betting more on MSM8960 than any other. I am waiting for S4 PRO MSM8960T chipset review (will surely be used over TABS only) lets see what it got. Didnt read nor know anything about APQ8064 model and i dont think dat we will get to know about that chipset unless LG releases their Optimus G. Xperia T has the AP series from S4 PLUS but S4 PRO is a total new ball game . Am guessing that the next gen S4 chips can easily be overclocked to 2GHz+ as my Xperia-S is already running on 1.78GHZ smoothly and its a Dual Core S3 . LG announced 2GB of ram for the Optimus G so, basically, 2GHz+ of overclocked QUAD PROCESSOR with 2GB ram is a must have for any enthusiast android developer/user. And if they manufacturer make it to a perfection than for sure its a must kept for the next 2/3 years as android for quads, wont be developed before that time but WITHIN that time. That 320GPU is already like a cherry on top so for now, am just keeping my fingers crossed to know how the battery will perform :fingers-crossed:. Then again, thats just my prediction and thoughts . As is said before, Qualcomm already won my faith over their chipsets . More like Dejavu ..More power work yet less power consumed
Theonlyzii said:
Quad core is not yet optimized in android
Android is not ready yet for quad core
Dual core is more than enough for android (well ICS)
Because i think jellybean quad core will do better (CMIIW)
Its not just Xperia T all device that use S4 "krait" Dual Core benchmark is always better than exynos
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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If in future quadcore will be good for android then s3 not gonna be outdated soon
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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S3 powered by Tegra 3? Where did you read that? It has either the Quad Core Exynos or Dual Core S4 Krait in some models variations.
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It's not only quadcore + Android not optimized to be the reason that Xperia T and other new Krait S4 CPU powered phones are better then Samsung's S3.
The S3 is powered by the tegra 3, and tegra 3 isn't the newest CPU anymore. It's just the fact that the S4 processor from Qualcomm is newer and better optimized then tegra 3.
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LOL S3 have Quad Core Exynos .. Tegra 3 is for HTC ONE X and Xperia T came with S4 Plus Dual Core Krait which actually has beaten S3 and HTC both to some serious extent. Hell, HTC ONE S beats one x to some serious level BOTTOM LINE : Qualcomm holds the authentic brain power for androids
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dear forum...........
im going to buy a new smartphone.....
at this moment i have two ideas.....
1. galaxy sII
2. lg optimus dual[lg 2X]
GALAXY SII with
Dual-core 1.2GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, Mali-400MP GPU, Exynos chipset
LG OPTIMUS DUAL
Dual-core 1GHz ARM Cortex-A9 proccessor, ULP GeForce GPU, Tegra 2 AP20H chipset
what is the best.........galaxy or lg?
which gpu is the best geforce or Mali-400MP?
i dnt believe user ideas....can anyone tell me real deal?
is it true that these 2 phones have gpu apart of cpu? or is it intergrated to cpu? like laptop shared gpu?
The O2X is one of the most wretched phones ever to exist. It has LCD screen bleed, reboots randomly, overheats, and has Wi-Fi and Bluetooth issues. It's the subject of a class action lawsuit in the U.S. and a petition for recall launched by owners in the EU. Read the O2X and G2X forums.
GSII is the best out there atm. You can't compare LG O2X with that, even Sensation won't come.
Go for GSII eyes closed.
Regards.
thanks
ok im going for GSII......
and my last question is is it true galaxy s2 have a gpu apart of cpu?
something like......
1.2GHZ dual core cortex A9 processor with
MALI MP400 GPU?
or its combined into cpu like intel GMA or HD graphics?
or seperate processor and gpu?
Of course it has a GPU. And thats damn powerful.
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yea mali mp 400 ryt? is it powerfull like nvidia gpu in optimus 2x?
^ More than that.
hey mate im from sri lanka. and ur a indian ryt? is that galaxy has a bad batery life with heavy usage of video playback? im going to get it tomorrow!
GS II is the best!
I need your suggestions. Can any one please make me understand the which is the best processor from Exynos 4212 Quad, NVDIA tegra 3, Snapdragon 4 dual and why?
Please tell me. That will be very helpful to me
From benchmarks, the Exynos CPU was quite a bit better than the other two, and the Mali GPU in the S3 also out-performed the others as far as I can remember. Search for some benchmarks comparing them to find out for yourself.
It should go this way:
Processing power: Exynos 4412 Quad > Qualcom S4 Krait > Nvidia Tegra 3 Quad
GPU power: Mali400 GPU > Adreno 225 >= ULP GeForce
But i read somewhere that S4 Krait CPU which is based on ARM Cortex A15 chips could offer more power without consuming as much energy than the two Quad core beasts.
My first thought when I heard about Nvidias 4+1 CPU was, how can it decide when to switch from single to quad core?? This sounds to me like a prototype for a constantly lagging device.
But I'm not as deep in this matter as to make a qualified statement.
It is just a feeling, since neither Intel ,AMD, Qualcomm or Samsung build their CPUs like this.
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Coming off a Tegra 2 device and patiently waiting this Verizon version of this phone all I can say is Tegra is terrible. At least on my phone it was, heating up on simple tasks like browsing homescreen.
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My first thought when I heard about Nvidias 4+1 CPU was, how can it decide when to switch from single to quad core?? This sounds to me like a prototype for a constantly lagging device.
But I'm not as deep in this matter as to make a qualified statement.
It is just a feeling, since neither Intel ,AMD, Qualcomm or Samsung build their CPUs like this.
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It actually works very well, the standby time on this phone is the best I've ever seen. It's needed though, because this chip is thirsty. Whether that's down to poor drivers or the design I don't know. Maybe a bit of both. Anyway I like Tegra 3, it IS very fast and you have those Tegra 3 games. Just look at Dark Meadow, the graphics are amazing and it runs smooth as hell.
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I can't imagine how this ever will work without occasional lags.
How does the task scheduler on a tegra 3 predict when to activate the 4 cores ?
Starting an app and wait whether it will need more power will lead to a lag, when it maxes out the single core.
It's not 4+1 but rather 1+4.
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harise100 said:
I can't imagine how this ever will work without occasional lags.
How does the task scheduler on a tegra 3 predict when to activate the 4 cores ?
Starting an app and wait whether it will need more power will lead to a lag, when it maxes out the single core.
It's not 4+1 but rather 1+4.
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I have no idea how it works, as the fifth core is handled directly by the soc and not the system. Maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can shed some light on this. I haven't encountered any noticeable lags compared to my SII though.
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Finally the search tool works, anyways thanks for clearing my doubts between the differences of the two quad cores.
Planning to return my N10 cause the stuttering on it is driving me insane and im really interested in the Tablet Z currently.
1920x1080 on an 1.5GHz Qualcomm APQ8064 with adreno 320GPU VS 2560x1600 nexus 10 with an exynos 5 and a mali t604 GPU clocked at 1.7 GHZ.
Well, the reputation of exynos brand is so much established now that even if we dont do the benchmark, we would know that exynos is better. And it is because samsung tweak the whole ARM design and alters it the way it worked for them. Juat like they do with android
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I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Benchmarks are unreliable is why see multiple posts on the subject .
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hrcoprco said:
I am really confused.
When I test my brand new Samsung S3 LTE with 2gb of RAM my scores are usually 12500.
When I compare it from the Antutu list of phones against Samsung S3 (normal version with 1gb RAM) the score is about 16000.
??? Why is that?
Sorry if I am posting to the wrong place.
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Thry could be using mods such as custom roms and kernels for example.
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this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
hahayesimsam said:
this is because samsung galaxy 3 LTE has a dual core and regular galaxy 3 has a quad core processor
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do you mean i9305?you're joking, right?
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=5001&idPhone2=4238
Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
hahayesimsam said:
Hardware and design
The S III comes in two distinct variations that differ primarily in the internal hardware. The international S III version has Samsung's Exynos 4 Quad system on a chip (SoC) containing a 1.4 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 central processing unit (CPU) and an ARM Mali-400 MP graphics processing unit (GPU). According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used on the S II, while using 20 percent less power. Samsung had also released several 4G LTE versions—4G facilitates higher-speed mobile connection compared to 3G—in selected countries to exploit the corresponding communications infrastructures that exist in those markets.[44] Most of these versions use Qualcomm's Snapdragon S4 SoC featuring a dual-core 1.5 GHz Krait CPU and an Adreno 225 GPU. The South Korean and Australia versions are a hybrid of the international and 4G-capable versions.
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oh lol you meant this haha my bad
yupe, many devices out there to make us spend much more hahaahahahah
Guys I need some advice before I buy something
Some devices are equipped with Mediatek MT8125 1.2 GHz Quad Core
while few use Intel Atom Z2560 1.6 GHz
Which chip can perform better ?
Performance wise, battery & tech features..
1.6 GHz Dual core or 1.2 Quad Core
Focus on Speed or Cores ?
Thanks
Mediatek processors sucks in performance, even their octa core is just about on the same if not lower level than Snapdragon processors. But they are power efficient if I'm not mistaken.
Intel however, will blow away everything. Their dual core processors are on the same level and maybe higher than all ARM based processors of there, old ones though.
CMIIW, and some Googleing would help before deciding.
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Many brands equip smartphones & tablets with Mediatek MT8125 chips..
So its speed that matters more then cores
Yeah, more cores doesn't mean more performance. And RAM too, I think 1 GB wouldn't cut it for 2014. Good luck dude.
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Meaditek processors are good bt only main reason is source nt available
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The intel one is better. More core doesn't always mean better, moreover when its mediatek which known to be slowest and crappiest among all modern mobile processor.
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