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Hey guys. Just wondering if anyone feels sort of the same way as me.
I spent around $650 USD and waited 3 months (from when the official international UK version was released) to purchase the S2 from overseas. Now the phone is going to become released in the U.S.
A part of me feels sort of disappointed and excited, yet I should be very happy now that it is available here (finally!!!). I guess I just wanted a phone where it wasn't too popular in the states. A part of spending a large amount of money (with no binding contract to a carrier) gave me a sense of uniqueness in that I was "one of few" to actually have this phone. Also, the forums here are quite valuable with so many users that I feel like I am part of a special S2 community...but with the announcement of this phone in the U.S., it seems like everyone "else" (yes, all the "other" people... you name it, they've got it) would eventually have it. I guess you can't help but wonder how special your phone is, heh.
I suppose I like to have electronic devices that is rare. Thus, when someone sees you off the street holding a S2, their impression would be like "Woah. That is cool. What is that?" But I guess in a few months, people would be more like "Is that the S2? Here's mine, too. And all my friends have it!"
Anyone feel the same way, heh?
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Not much in a way, people still keep thinking it's an iPhone which makes me giggle lol. You still have the uniqueness factor since the phone looks physically different from the variants.
I'm pretty much like that too, I usually had the odd phone that nobody even knew the name. I always tell my friends about how iPhone is like a DVD player, everyone has one and knows how to operate it and I was thinking in the same line about the SGS2 since you can buy it off the cell company. This wasn't like that last year, you couldn't even find any android phones, we have a huge blackberry market and quickly diving. But the SGS2 is an android phone, that means you can have any UI, on iPhone you have iOS and works the way apple wants it to work and that's it, with the SGS2 it'll be different, you have TouchWiz as a default interface, and you can also have ADW, LauncherPro etc, you can even have MIUI on it, then it comes the millions of roms that we have and will have more coming as soon as SGS2 starts selling in the US. Now think about the people that are square headed that don't even know what ROOT is and don't even care about it, if they try to use your phone and you don't have TouchWiz it will be like a windows fan using linux, he/she will know is the same phone but won't be able to use it as easy as theirs. And you have widgets and all the customization on the different launchers.
I know what you're going tru lol
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
I spent 750 with first original stock and it was worth every penny. The only thing that got my attention is the Samsung Note.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
Last I read over 3 million GS2 had been sold in Europe alone so I can imagine at least a couple hundred thousand were sold in USA despite not being on general sale there that's not to say people didn't buy them online and not taking into account the many more sold throughout the rest of the world so hardly a unique phone for the privileged few this phone has been Samsung's biggest selling handset to date and with good reason!
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Of course the phone will become more popular as it gets released in more places. That's progress. Accept it.
Samsung have a winning phone on their hands; they'd be utterly stupid to not try selling it in every country in the world.
If you want something new, go and buy the Samsung Galaxy S 3 whenever it's released. (but accept that other people are going to buy it too)
SII already achieved a great level of admiration as after 3 months of release it's still the most wanted and popular phone people wanna hold. I believe it will have a record sales figure worldwide.
But OP- Poor thinking, shame on you.
intruda119 said:
The only thing that got my attention is the 7.7.
This device will easily last 2 years for the casual person and another 6-12 months with the tech geek.
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B3311 said:
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
I know how you feel. Its just a nice experience when you own a device that others have never even seen. I owned a Microsoft zune a few years back which wasn't released here in the uk. When I showed it to iPod user's they just said "wow is that a new iPod?" Although the galaxy s2 is wildly available in the UK there are still alot of people that don't know what they are, especially iPhone users. I've already been asked if it was an iphone5. I replied no its much better than one of those old iPhones. I'm then quickly followed by a confused look and a sharp reply of "iPhones are the best though aren't they?" So funny.
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Took the words out of my mouth.
But hey, it's suckers like OP that I find easy to make money from.
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With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
B3311 said:
So to sum up, you chose a phone because you wanted to stroke your own ego with your "sense of uniqueness" and impress your "friends", and are now disappointed because other people will spoil your unique user experience by having the temerity to get a similar device.
Poor little thing. Just wait until the next Shiny New Thing, buy it, bask in your own smugness and find another forum to tell people how special you are.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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(uJelly?)
With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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Totally agree
Alazarin said:
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With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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There is nothing wrong with a bit if pride and the desire to be unique.
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Being anti-conformist for the sake of being anti-conformist is a form of conformity in itself.
Alazarin said:
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With all do respect, I absolutely love this phone. I just felt as with an increased presence in the States, it could potentially turn to something along the lines of an iPhone, whereby almost every user wants/or already has it. It's one of the things I dislike about Apple products is because of the all-too familiarity around here. Pretty much everywhere I go, I would see someone carrying an iPhone. Makes you feel slightly less exclusive. However, if it's a good product, then obviously everyone is going to get it.
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I think there is only one option left for you and it ain't a good one.
To be unique, buy a phone that doesn't sell well, meaning an ugly underpowered , crashing and medicore phone. Thats how you will be unique.
Thats the price you pay for wanting a top selling and great phone. In the end everybody wants a phone that is on top of the line.
Learn to live with it that you are not alone when you buy these phones.
When i see around me people with GS II then i know i probably made a good decision.
If i bought a phone that nobody has then its rubbish or insane expensive.
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I thought that individualism was one of the central tenets of American culture.
I don't see how it's a bad thing if the SGSII (or any other Android phone for that matter) becomes more popular. A larger install base means the platform is more attractive for app developers, and it's the quality and quantity of these quality apps that make or break a platform. This is just my opinion, but I feel that in this area, Android still has to catch up with iOS. I can't help but feel that I had access to a greater variety of good apps when I was on my iPhone 3GS.
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True. Good point.
Hopefully, Samsung continues to make great quality products. IMHO, I'll take quality over quantity (or massive production of inferior products in order to just reach a certain quota) any day of the week.
You could look at it a different way...
Think about this, for a start not everyone will get or be in the position to get an S2. Instead of 'oh that's cool what is it' you might get people saying hey an S2 they are great aren't they? I have one and just put the latest xxx rom on it, have you tried it, take a look A full on conversation going about how good the phone is, while others around wonder why they don't have one of these phones.
I already have (here in Belfast Northern Ireland) been talking to a complete stranger and quickly set his phone up a bit better for him on the spot! He thanked me and said he is very new to android. I showed him my setup and he was impressed so I pointed him in the direction of xda.
So if you like it might not be such a unique club soon, but it will still be a chosen few only with a few more friendly members, don't you think?
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/14/hackers-crack-siri-to-work-on-any-device/
Just seen this, would be great to see this on the 3D, then what could a iphone owner say .... nothing!
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iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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mikeyxda said:
iPhone owners already can say nothing. Their cloud "innovation"... we've had that via Google for years. Siri... we've had that for a while too. Search the market for Jeannie (AKA Voice Actions). I put Voice Actions up against Siri the other day at lunch and Siri got literally every question borked. Voice Actions on Android did much better. We asked Siri "What are the nine planets". It said, "I found six planets... the closest is 2.2 miles from you." I hope not! We asked Voice Actions the same thing and it came up with a picture of the solar system plus a description of the planets. Other questions went similarly. The iPhone junkies at the table were REALLY impressed when I asked Voice Actions "Show me some boobies". Then I showed them the results and said, "Try THAT on your iPhone!"
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Lol brilliant
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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hate builds brand loyalty.
jgalan14 said:
I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
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You must not talk to too many Apple fanboys. All day long, they talk about how their phone is superior to any other. I laugh when my co-workers literally say their iPhones are better than my EVO 3D.
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God my company issues iPhones as a company phones (mostly to Execs and ITs) and they brag so much about their iPhone that I die a little inside each day. Something about that Apple brand that makes them believe they are top hip elitist. I don't hate Apple, I hate the people who worship it
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I don't understand why the hate between the two OSs , I don't think it should be competition between the user if no the company that mades, that way they can improved and the winner is the user , btw I think apple would sued whoever uses Siri in another OS
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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Hrmm, I think part of it on anyone other than Apple's OS definitely has to do with Apple becoming what they advertised against. The breakout Apple commercial was that woman coming and throwing a sledgehammer at Big Brother - one way of doing things, one computer, one order.
They became that - they advertise artistic and non-conformist and people line up and say "I'm so different" as they purchase something they can't make a change to without jail breaking the OS.
Last I checked, if you want to develop for iOS you have to pay to play. I may be off on that as it has been a while since I checked.
Apple shooting lawsuits left and right for "stolen innovations" such as "slide to wake up" have not been engendering kindness.
The marketing and legal departments have been fueling the dislike, and posers who get phones for a status symbol.
There's a long and well documented lead in to the hate, and in the end it works extremely well to line various company's coffers.
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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And yet, they sell more and more phones everyday. I loathe the company itself. I like their products. Don't get me wrong, the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch are GREAT devices, but they're not Android. And they're not even close, IMO. I have an iPad issued to me from work. The only thing I use it for is to read, watch movies (that I get outside of iTunes), and listen to music (Pandora/Shoutcast/Music I download outside of iTunes).
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I think there's also some sort inherent disconnect between camps.
Apple people think they have the greatest device because it looks pretty.
Android people think they have the greatest device because the hardware is faster and you can make it look pretty.
Apple people think that if you have to work to make your device look and perform awesome that it's you who is making it awesome, not the product. (IE you win Android fail)
Android people think that if you can't make it look and perform like you want then you're a moron or the phone is crap.
It's sort of like a broken down 57 Chevy. An Apple lover looks and sees rust and decay, and Android user sees potential - HTC didn't make Sense awesome, but I can.
It all gets worse when you have people on both sides who don't want to learn anything and believe their respective marketing departments.
Any interest in this or shall we keep debating Apples to Orang-uh hum! Droids?
my dislike for the company is in the fact they spout innovation yet they are always a year behind the rest. hell look windows 7 phone has 4g now where is it for the almighty iphone? They spout innovation on their new ios and android has already had it on of their phones for a year. and the masses to dumb to realize they are paying extra money for a phone that is at least a year behind the curve. And yet the iphone fan boys think their phone is the best then i ask what makes it better then i pull out my evo 3d and im like had that since.... and had that since..... their ignorance drives me up the wall
I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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I know still off topic but when is Google going to throw a lawsuit in apples face for the ios5 notification pulldown menu? Innovation my ass
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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they cant due to the fact android is open source i believe
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I'm more interested with the fact apple got issued that patent for the basic slide unlock. Didn't Google have this out first? Didn't think apple could patent stuff Google had already releases open source wise.
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Well I see in a different way, sure iPhone 4s looks outdated because it doesn't have lte or WiMAX, in my experience lte is really nice too bad it has more lost signal then 3G and WiMAX is ok but man does it suck, I used 4G on my OG evo for a few months and stop using it , it just sucks I prefer 3G also in battery life 4G sucks at that right now, they need to come out with a new battery tech or wtv, I have an iPhone 4S, evo 3d, nexus s (tmobile) and my old 3GS and after playing with them I prefer both, i do prefer an iPad instead of android tablet but that might because of the apps, is nice to read books on my iPad or watch YouTube, and some apps for work , if android tablets would have a nice spreadsheets app and maybe some better apps ill probably go for it, but maybe another 6 months before that, the new asus table (quad core) looks nice but will see
I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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I love android far more than I love Apple, but I have to admit that apple was the innovation that started the smartphone race. Even though I believe Android is much better that Apple now, I believe there wouldn't be Android if it wasn't for Apple. Flame me if you want...
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Apple made the smartphone stylish. Treo made the smartphone useful. I was checking corporate email while apple was still ensuring cases expose their logo on the back.
If anyone started using siri other than apple, they will shut you down quicker than you can brag to your friends about it.
The andiod os was oringinally going to be the google os back in like 2004 but when things didnt work out and google saw that the iphone take off they applied it to smart phones
I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
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I didn't see this posted yet and I searched - if it has been posted I apologize and I'll remove this. I know these are a bit tiresome but I have to admit sometimes they are kind of funny to read.
http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/galaxy-note-lame-tablet-lousy-smartphone-186387
Even though I don't have my Note yet, the real user reviews I've read so far, unless they've all been shills by Samsung employees, would seem to contradict the notion of the Note as a "pathetic failure". I guess I'll know later today...
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
I didn't get through the whole thing, but he complained that there was no split keyboard option "like the iPad" for landscape mode, and that the stock browser reports the device as a phone, so mobile websites load by default.
30 seconds in the Market should solve both concerns. So I figured there was no reason to read the rest of it.
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That's because they're clueless. They're reviewing it as a Tablet, which it is not. All of the respectable reviewers (Engadget, CNET, etc.) are treating it like a phone with some tablet features. It is not supposed to be competing with tablets.
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Minus BGR who had a rather disturbing review on it.
yeah that "reviewer" writes books on apple products and that article he wrote is so biased I don't think he even tried to make it sound fair.
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That is by far the worst review I've ever read. I've read reviews from Engaget & CNET and it's more reliable.
Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Im pretty much tired of these close minded, closed source, apple fanboys reviewing android products.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
Lately I have seen quite a few negative (or negative leaning) reviews (Walt Mossberg etc..) of the Note. This has surprised me.
The common theme in these reviews revolves around the fact that the GNote is large - too large to hold to the side of one's head and too large to control with one hand.
It strikes me that instead of viewing it as a new type of phone they are down on it because it isn't a small phone (like the iPhone) - and therefore deficient in some way.
They just seem to miss the point, completely.
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Any Apple fanboys reviewing an Android phone will always give it a low rating. Apple logo is imprinted on their brain to think it's the best phone there is and no one can beat. Have a friend that tried to talk me out of getting the Note and get iPhone instead. Never.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
They are just jealous they all have small hands.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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I agree. I've seen friends willing to die for the 4s when it came out, knowing that iPhone 5 is coming up few months after it. I think it's a waste. I bought an iPad and then the iPad2 came out, that was it for me. I feel cheated, buying Apple products.
People are so whiney, you either like it or not. I hate reviews like that. Actually I hate subjective reviews. Just tell us what the phone has and does.
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What steve jobs started was a cult following if you think about it. Most people who use apple products religiously are not even tech savvy from my experience.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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That is the point of apple, is it not. My wife wants simple no mess with functionality out of the box, even if the functionality is limited. I'm just thankful she agreed to stay with Gmail and drop box.
I like to set up and control my systems and have maximum functionality, thus I go with android.
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It definitely is the point hence why a 2yr old can use an ipad with no problem
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And most of them don't seem to care about the enslavement and dependence on iTunes. I have seen numerous times where someone plugged their iDevice into another person's PC to charge...then the contacts and other stuff gets over-written or vice versa. And they freak out about it....even though Apple made this info rather clear....Perfect example of them not even knowing the basics of being dependent on Apple.
Whereas for Android, you save everything to a google account and then instantly sync contacts or whatever through mobile data/ wi-fi....no cables or hassle required. And there's even some apps that let you wirelessly sync files between phone and PC...but that of course requires a wi-fi connection.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Let's face it, they're paying for the logo for the most part. I can understand their computers, their iMac brands are good, but as far as the phone is concern, there's nothing really much anyone can do with it.
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
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Or you could build a Hackintosh
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Yeah, both their desktops and laptops are great overall, although they still charge a huge premium for them. You can usually build or upgrade your own traditional Windows desktop for a cheaper price, and the specs end up being significantly better for most uses (like gaming purposes).
I feel both the iPhone and iPad are very limiting when compared to their counter parts. Every iPhone has basically been the same...sure, there are some actual upgrades to make the icon scrolling and other basic functions move faster.
And more often than not,, the alternatives are superior and sell for cheaper too. So why pay more for outdated stuff...
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Regardless how much you tell and explain this to an Apple iPhone user, they will NEVER believe you. I wish our Android phones has better resale value like their iPhone, though.
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A friend offered to make me a Hackintosh. I'm ehh about it.
OK, so I have never felt the need to make a pointless thread till now...
I was out at the bar tonight, surrounded by iPhone people....going on and on about how they had one problem or another with whatever random android they had and how suddenly their iPhone solved everything.... And they were saying "oh, our phone is so much faster than yours"
So i made them all download linpack and blew each of them away by double...
Perhaps it doesn't mean much, but it shut them up
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Haha!
I hate it tho how trying to get an i phone user to understand something simple like a widget. I explain at least we get home screens they dont understand coz all they get is an application drawer!
I actually talked a female colleague around to getting an android phone like mine (s2) she was set to get an iphone but she doesn't regret it one bit! Plus out of 15 ppl in our company 3 of us have android- one desire and 2 s2's! The rest are apple fan boys! Lol
Android all the way!!
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iPhone = ordinary brainless user
Android = power user which has to use his brains
Why so many iPhones?
Apple is the king of product placement.
Watch any movie, soap etc. Apples apples apples rotten apples everywhere.
Yay, a grid of icons on top of icons! The solution to all of life's mobile phone problems. Oh, and a robotic sounding woman you can have "conversations" with.
The reason why Apple is so successful is because the notion of "choice" is too much for the average person to handle. I understand the lack of common sense and willingness to do a little legwork when purchasing things that most of society has, but having ONE phone and ONE computer is preferable to anyone in the entertainment business than shuffling through the hundreds of Android phones. Especially since they're catering to the society I wrote about. They will know what an iPhone is. They will not know what __insert_stuipd_android_device_name_OEMs_who_don't_understand_how_the_world_works_come_up_with is.
jr866gooner said:
Haha!
I hate it tho how trying to get an i phone user to understand something simple like a widget. I explain at least we get home screens they dont understand coz all they get is an application drawer!
I actually talked a female colleague around to getting an android phone like mine (s2) she was set to get an iphone but she doesn't regret it one bit! Plus out of 15 ppl in our company 3 of us have android- one desire and 2 s2's! The rest are apple fan boys! Lol
Android all the way!!
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Better to have Iphones than the stupid symbian Nokia phones............
My town is surrounded by Nokia phones and some chinese/indian crap......
Though the problem is that here a basic phone without camera and some basic features costs at 2000-3000 rupees (40$-60$) while the evo 3d was around 49$(contract) in USA and is around 700$ (without contract) in india , I would have purchased so many phones at this cost if that contract thingy would have been available here...
mnomaanw said:
Better to have Iphones than the stupid symbian Nokia phones............
My town is surrounded by Nokia phones and some chinese/indian crap......
Though the problem is that here a basic phone without camera and some basic features costs at 2000-3000 rupees (40$-60$) while the evo 3d was around 49$(contract) in USA and is around 700$ (without contract) in india , I would have purchased so many phones at this cost if that contract thingy would have been available here...
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No you wouldn't because they are ,like you said, contracts . That means you can only get a device at that price once every two years once the contract ends.
The reason so many more people appear to have iphones is Apple advertises everywhere. People want a brand name they can trust and they all love their ipods for music, so why not get an iPhone. Then the old yoga moms who bought it rave about their new smartphone to all their clueless friends, who tell even more people, until apple phones are owned by every clueless person in the US. Then Apple decides it's time to implement project X, a top secret project that uses siri to take over its users like a parasite and TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! Well sort of anyway...
Yeah, idk, I just enjoyed it because they all had to admit my 3d blew their iPhone away... And you guys are right, it is brainless... Have you ever seen two iPhones that look different? Nope, they are all set up to be huge app drawers... Idk, I like having a bookmark and a calendar widget.... I like being able to make it my own and not just follow suit....
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sms2000 said:
iPhone = ordinary brainless user
Android = power user which has to use his brains
Why so many iPhones?
Apple is the king of product placement.
Watch any movie, soap etc. Apples apples apples rotten apples everywhere.
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How incredibly humble of you
Apple has carved an image for itself, and it does it's job very well, and people from all walks of life has iPhones, from trashy people, to incredible smart. Some people just don't care about customisation and are more interested in a complete solution with little fuss. This does not make them brainless.
the main reason i keep seeing these lil girls get iphone is because its a status symbol , ppl think if you have an iphone ur cool or going to get more *****, that phone is plain out boring when its up against a high end android.
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How incredibly humble of you
Apple has carved an image for itself, and it does it's job very well, and people from all walks of life has iPhones, from trashy people, to incredible smart. Some people just don't care about customisation and are more interested in a complete solution with little fuss. This does not make them brainless.
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How DARE you display objectivity, blasphemer! The iPhone is for the feeble minded and Android for the intellectual elite.
I think people chose iphone forbthe same reason i dont root my phone. Not everyone has hours a day to waste altering these phones or can afford for something to stop working. People say rooting your phone makes it better and faster. How much faster can it get seriously? I mean my epic touch is fully stock with 1000 songs and plenty of pics and videos and sometimes it seems like it selects what i want before i even swipe it. Every other thread on xda seems to ke oh i flashed this rom and my camera stopped working my wifi stopped working my voicemail stopped working im not getting my notifications stuck on htc screen or whatever else can go wrong. Im only 26 but i have a gf and a 1 year old son. Some people cant afford to have dumb **** like that go wrong. I need everything on my phone working all the time. Im not worried about the latest theme and if i was that worried about ics id go by a galaxy nexus.
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I think people chose iphone forbthe same reason i dont root my phone. Not everyone has hours a day to waste altering these phones or can afford for something to stop working. People say rooting your phone makes it better and faster. How much faster can it get seriously? I mean my epic touch is fully stock with 1000 songs and plenty of pics and videos and sometimes it seems like it selects what i want before i even swipe it. Every other thread on xda seems to ke oh i flashed this rom and my camera stopped working my wifi stopped working my voicemail stopped working im not getting my notifications stuck on htc screen or whatever else can go wrong. Im only 26 but i have a gf and a 1 year old son. Some people cant afford to have dumb **** like that go wrong. I need everything on my phone working all the time. Im not worried about the latest theme and if i was that worried about ics id go by a galaxy nexus.
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Cool story? Trust me depending in the Roms the phone actually shows significant performance over the stock . You don't actually spend hours a day switching. Or whatever. Just download follow simple steps and go.
Most times the rom is perfectly working for users. Just some people don't read the change logs on what works or not.
And I have-not seen that many oh my wifi or whatever is not working threads.
Unless you take advantage of rooting you probably arnt the one to talk about these customization steps, goes for the iPhone users alike.
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Alright so after reading this thread which has a slight undertone of hate both ways, here is what I've gathered....
iPhone: For people who want things done for them... They don't want to worry about every detail (big or small) of their phone, don't mind little customization, and follow a 'trend' (if you will). At the same time, everything is easier to use, because it is less complicated and everything is right there. The phone that is already 'set-up'.
Exclude the whole concept of Jailbreaking your iPhone. If you jailbreak it, you are basically making it an Android anyways -_-. Making it Open-source so you can add MODs from Cydia to it for a little more customization and control. Sounds like browsing XDA looking for new things for your phone, hm.
Android: Contrary to the iPhone... For people who want to take control of their phone. In every aspect. Having a phone that really reflects you and shows your personality. Something you can tinker with for endless hours ALWAYS finding something new. You don't mind the 'kinks' of rooting and ROMs, because you like the need to fiddle with your phone. All around, you're more alert to everything going on in that phone of yours. The parts waiting to be perfectly put together.
Don't get me wrong. Android is fully functional. What I meant by the part thing is; everything is ready to go, but it needs a little extra to get it how you want it.
Which one is better....? I personally like Android because of all the things there are to, and the very thin boundaries (if there are any) to what you can't do. However the iPhone offers a very refined experience that isn't anything to scuff at. I do not find the iPhone faster either. There are plenty of tests to show otherwise. It wouldn't be fair to compare a low-end Android so assume I'm talking about the SGS2, Galaxy Nexus, etc. And if there is any difference in visual speed (which isn't totally reliable) it is honestly a hundredth of a second or less. Processor wise Android destroys iOS. Visual smoothness iOS at times over throws Android. Overall they're both good platforms (and I have used both for over 6 months).
Now if more iPhone users could realize that Android is just as good as iOS. Then we could finally get them to shut-up about what their pre-personalized phones can do.
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I'd never buy an iPhone, or Apple product, for that matter. That said, had I been one of those people who just lost the linpack challenge, I would promptly have asked you to open your web browser, or home screen and take the lag challenge, to which you would have failed miserably.
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I'd never buy an iPhone, or Apple product, for that matter. That said, had I been one of those people who just lost the linpack challenge, I would promptly have asked you to open your web browser, or home screen and take the lag challenge, to which you would have failed miserably.
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Or if you were using the 3Vo, try and take a picture in the dimly lit room
It's whatever, I just wanted to shut them up...
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Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
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Well I've had the rezound since it came out and I always loved it. But it's a little outdated now and development has slowed quite a bit. So I'm thinking about getting a new phone.
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
The galaxy nexus is one of my top choices but I think they might be coming out with a new one soon and I would rather wait.
The s3 is my top choice as of now.
I don't see any reason to get the d inc lte.
I'm looking for battery life that is better than my rezound. I would like a decent screen but it's not that important. Most importantly I want the phone to be smooth and fast. And I would love something that is getting jb.
So what do you think? Keep the rezound or get another phone? Any suggestions other than what I listed?
Thanks!
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Honestly i would wait for the next nexus device and cross my fingers its made buy htc lol. I love sense and all but i really like the fact that a nexus is made exactly for that version of android at the time and is still in mind when they make a new os. Like the nexus s came with gingerbread, then ics, and will soon get jellybean i here. I mean 3 os updates and it runs even better than when it came out with gb, unlike many other phones (not the rezound) when they get a os update they start to usually slow down because its not made with that os in mine. But thats just me lol
Thanks! I think I'm gonna stick with my rezound for now. If the one x comes to Verizon I'll get that
Unfortunately they've already said Sammy's making the next Nexus.
Actually I guess that's not official... Just based on a leaked Samsung spec sheet.
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I've fought tooth and nail defending this phone for its outstanding hardware, but I'm starting to think it may be time to throw in the towel. The radios have amazing signal compared to Samsung. Problem? My strong as hell 4G signal stalls constantly. It never drops, just stalls all communications. I was so happy to see data stalls listed as fixed on this new ruu leak, but its completely untrue. No change. Not to mention the kernel drama. Still runs hot as hell. My respect for HTC has gone straight out the window this time. Not even aosp can redeem it for me now. So in short, I'm ready for a New phone as well and tell you go for it.
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davidetkin511 said:
I'm 99% sure I'm not gonna get the iPhone, even though I love my iPad and MacBook I think android is better than the iPhone.
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I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
WebmastuhB said:
I bought a new iPhone for my sister a few months ago. I was setting it up for her and had it side by side next to my Rezound for about 4 or 5 days. I was just shocked at what a piece of crap it was. The screen was so small, it was like holding a kids toy or something. Honestly, it was painful to look at with its tiny, tiny screen.
3G just sucks. Granted, it was on Sprint's network (which I hear is not as good as Verizon) but 3G just sucked. Slow, spotty... Downloading apps seemed to take forever compared to my blazing fast 4G.
No widgets? WTF? I had to click on 3 or 4 things just to get to a Bluetooth control panel - my Rezound has a link right to the Bluetooth control panel on the homescreen. I love the big clock/weather widget on my homescreen, and having 4 different apps I can immediately go into during an unlock is terrific.
I have a few friends who have iPhones. One day, one of those guys who does sales (and is kind of an ass) started projecting that "I'm awesome because I own and iPhone and I love it and I love me and Im soo dam kewl" attitude - and I just tore him to shreds with the above three points.
He countered with "Well, I use iTunes and all my stuff is there and it magically appears in my iCloud, bla bla bla". I admitted he did have a point, but I ripped into him about how much iTunes sucks/I have my own cloud/etc. But I make sure to rip on him and his tiny screen and slow bandwidth opium of the masses toy whenever he brings it up.
I honestly feel sorry for people who are blinded by how cool they think they are because they bought an iPhone. Seriously, it reminds me of these people who are brainwashed into a religious cult and think they are going to be teleported to a paradise planet by an alien named Xennue or something.
I use Gmail/Google Calendar/Google Contacts/Google Docs... I have no desire to give that up for an iPhone.
However, I do like my iPad. Now that it can run Chrome, its actually nice. I can easily access all the above with little hassle.
Other than this ICS/Google Maps 6.10 debacle, I've had no issues with my Rezound whatsoever. With its extended battery, its just a great piece of hardware. I can't see myself changing that for any reason for a long, long time...
Now... Tablets... that's another story...
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Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
davidetkin511 said:
Well if I get a new phone it will be the s3. So what do you think, rezound or s3? I really don't know what to do here. I've been with htc since the apache. The galaxy s3 looks pretty good though. What do you think?
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nice looking phone with a better processor. Already leaks of JB on the international version. Promising. Personally, I'm riding the rezound for a while longer.
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Well said Webmastuh . Hehehe.. iphones may be slick, but they are highly overrated. Lots of these new Android phones whoop ish*ts a$$. The Rezound is an excellent piece of hardware, when paired with the proper software and firmware. The S3 is an excellent handset. The interface and graphics acceleration are much faster than the Rez, but as you know, Samsung has always had poor radios. Idk if they have improved it on the new S3 though...
IrvChynaman said:
Wow so much animosity towards the iPhone. Its really not a bad device. Both iOS and Android are solid platforms, and both have their pros and cons.
EDIT: Scratch all that i mustve overlooked the fact you have an iPad, so you do like the platform. As for the cultish fanboyism of ios yeah its there, but its going to exist everywhere. We have fanboy android users with the same mentality.
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Ha! Yeah, sorry if the post came off full of iPhone/iOS vitriol. I agree - both iOS and Android are both solid OS's/Platforms and both have their pros and cons. For the record I work with both and I'll program for either. I dropped the "religious fervor" about this stuff a while ago - they are all just tools.
I actually have a couple of iPads, and like a lot of things about them. I use them a lot to do actual productive work (mostly note taking and emails on the go). I have a couple of Android tablets, and I'm interested in getting a Surface.
But I'm sticking with my attack on iPhones. G3 sucks compared to my Rezound's G4, the iPhone screen is much smaller than my Rezound, and iPhone doesn't have widgets (and that shouldn't be overlooked. They are convenient as heck.)
I found out the other day that if I ever want to upgrade my Rezound with a subsidized phone from Verizon, I MUST drop my unlimited data plan for one of those metered plans they have. I told the rep I would never do this, and that I'd fire Verizon and switch to Sprint or T-Mobile first.
But the question I had was why upgrade my phone? The answer was "for new functionality that comes out". My answer was "I'll just do new functionality on a tablet, and keep my phone as-is." I'm a pretty imaginative guy, but I can't see why I'd have a specific need to upgrade my phone anytime soon. If some new killer-must-have app comes out tomorrow that doesn't run on a Rezound - cool, I'll just get it on a tablet. I'll keep the Rezound for basic stuff and use other advanced/new stuff on a tablet. The Rezound will be relegated to a bandwidth pipe with some basic email checking functions. Oh, and actual phone calls...
Maybe if 5G comes out that the Rezound can't handle... (and it would have to be a 5 - 10 times better than 4G to make it worth it), then maybe I'd consider replacing my Rezound... Unless a tablet comes out that has it built in... Or maybe some specific must-have thing would work better with a small form factor, but then again it might also be available in 5-7inch tablet for $200...
Switching back to my old phone....
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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Read one of the more simple guides and stick with your Rezzy. It only seems complicated to me when I'm speed reading.
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HarleyChick said:
Maybe I'm crazy (don't answer that), but I'm seriously thinking about switching back to my Dinc2 from the Rezound. After using the Rezound for several months, I'm just not that crazy about it. Sure, its bigger and has 4G, but everything about it - flashing ROMs, S-On/S-Off, this radio, that radio - is so COMPLICATED. The Dinc2 is just so much easier.
And I know that development on the Dinc2 has slowed way down, but it has on the Rezound too. I guess I'm just not sure what I should do, but I don't want to switch, then switch back again because I miss 4G. Any advice would be appreciated.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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Ouch.. Good to know
Just called and checked and they told me that if I activate a TB on the line my unlimited. Maybe it's if you flop back? I'm pretty sure the line was 3g.
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I'd advise against reactivating a 3g phone on your line, especially if you have unlimited or a double data deal. Verizon is looking for any excuse to take those away, and switching between a 4g and 3g phone apparently qualifies. (Seriously, I've been on the phone with Verizon all morning trying to fix my uncle's plan).
if you have questions on flashing, just ask, there are helpful rezound people around.
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I was wondering about that. Thanks for the info. That may just be enough to make me want to stay on the Rez. :good:
I don't know why people think dev on the Rezound is slowing because it's actually at more of a standstill. But, the OTA updates have dropped and now we are waiting for source to drop. Once that happens I have a feeling dev will continue on again and hopefully continue on long after the Rezound's shelf life much like the orig Incredible.