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Anyone test their speeds using Internet Connection Sharing? I did a bandwidth test from the phone and got 8.9 Mbits download and 3.6 Mbits upload. Then I then did a test from my laptop and I got 3.5 Mbits upload but my download would not go above 0.6 Mbits. Anyone else noticed this problem?
This is not slow, hsdpa gives 7.2 Mbps speeds only so expected
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vikram.m.mohan said:
This is not slow, hsdpa gives 7.2 Mbps speeds only so expected
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This phone is capable of 14.4 Mbps, not just 7.2 Mbps. My Carrier is capable of 21 Mbps. This was not the issue. The issue was getting over 8 Mbit/s download speeds on the Titan, but when using Internet Connection Sharing the speed would not be greater them 0.6 Mbit/s. This was tested right after the initial test. The upload speed was very similar though.
As is my understanding, you will never achieve the same speeds when using ICS.
When your phone is communicating with the internet, it is dealing with one lot of data being sent and one lot of data being returned.
But when connecting your computer via your phone, your phone has to take that data from your computer, then pass it on. So it is dealing with one lot of data to/from your computer, and another lot of data (the same data!) to/from the internet - So you are doubling the amount of work the phone does. Your phone only has the one radio chip for this data, so it has to alternate between all the incoming and outgoing data.
You get the same slow-down on home wifi networks if you use a wifi repeater.
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As is my understanding, you will never achieve the same speeds when using ICS.
When your phone is communicating with the internet, it is dealing with one lot of data being sent and one lot of data being returned.
But when connecting your computer via your phone, your phone has to take that data from your computer, then pass it on. So it is dealing with one lot of data to/from your computer, and another lot of data (the same data!) to/from the internet - So you are doubling the amount of work the phone does. Your phone only has the one radio chip for this data, so it has to alternate between all the incoming and outgoing data.
You get the same slow-down on home wifi networks if you use a wifi repeater.
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I understand that it will be less, but to go from over 8 Mbits on the phone to 0.6 Mbits on my laptop is more then what one should expect as a penalty for connecting thru the phone.
Even with your example of using a wifi repeater the bandwidth is only halved, and that is because the link is using the same frequency band over both hops. In the case of the phone, Internet Connection Sharing is acting like a home router with the cell frequency side the equivalent of the wan port and the software is providing NAT to clients connected on the 2.4ghz wifi connection side so there is no penalty for using the same frequency band.
As I also stated the upload from the phone and the upload from my laptop are the same, around 3.5 Mbits. What I was asking is if other people have had this same discrepancy when using Internet Connection Sharing. Even if the results from just the phone were ignored, the fact that I only got 0.6 Mbits download vs 3.5 Mbits upload thru the phone tells me something is not working properly.
If anyone is seeing this discrepancy between upload and dowload speeds with Internet Connection Sharing let me know.
win7463 said:
I understand that it will be less, but to go from over 8 Mbits on the phone to 0.6 Mbits on my laptop is more then what one should expect as a penalty for connecting thru the phone.
Even with your example of using a wifi repeater the bandwidth is only halved, and that is because the link is using the same frequency band over both hops. In the case of the phone, Internet Connection Sharing is acting like a home router with the cell frequency side the equivalent of the wan port and the software is providing NAT to clients connected on the 2.4ghz wifi connection side so there is no penalty for using the same frequency band.
As I also stated the upload from the phone and the upload from my laptop are the same, around 3.5 Mbits. What I was asking is if other people have had this same discrepancy when using Internet Connection Sharing. Even if the results from just the phone were ignored, the fact that I only got 0.6 Mbits download vs 3.5 Mbits upload thru the phone tells me something is not working properly.
If anyone is seeing this discrepancy between upload and dowload speeds with Internet Connection Sharing let me know.
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Have tried same SIM different phone? Different SIM same phone?
It could well be your provider!
I just got around to downloading the speed test app to see how fast me x2 is and after the first test here is what I got:
Ping:19ms
Down:4989kbps
Up:703kbps
Now I dont know much but something tells me that up speed is a little low.
Im on cm7 with the Mash up script and wifi on.
Will the numbers be different if Im on 3G? Are these numbers even remotely good?
Many thanks to all!!
Apps aren't always accurate. I'm not sure what you meant will it be different if I'm on 3G? Wifi and 3G will always differ, wifi is much faster depending on your provider, where 3g can lag at times
On 3g I usually hit 3d and 1 up
Where wifi I'm like 25 down 8 up out there about.
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Your ping time and up/down speeds can vary even when connected to the same tower or wifi network depending the congestion at any given time on the bandwidth provider's network, among other factors.
Your seemingly low upload speed could be attributed to other devices on the wifi network using the upload bandwidth allotted by the isp at the time you performed the speed test. It may also be the case the connection supplying the wifi network is 6Mbps down/1Mbps up. Your upload and download speeds while on wifi can only be as good as the connection from the isp regardless of the settings on your device or how many other devices are on the network.
For what it's worth, I have a Verizon 3G Network Extender plugged into my wireless router, meaning that both my WiFi and the Network Extender can only supply a connection that at best is only as fast as my cable modem's connection to Comcast. Eliminating all conflicting variables (e.g. no other devices on the network when running tests), my Droid X2's 3G upload and download speeds are consistently slower than when I'm on wifi.
19ms is a pretty good ping time, btw.
Lots of useful info. Thanks guys!
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I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
MunkinDrunky said:
I have also been curious and suspicious of my 3g data speeds. When I was stock and rooted with 2.3.4 I would get on average 20-30 kilobytes/sec in my house with a poorer signnal of -87dbm this is using speed test and checking the down up speeds with the mobile network app that puts the speeds up on the notification bar. I used that to monitor downloads and web browsing speeds which agreed well with speed test. In a good coverage area -67dbm I achieved pretty consistently 130-230 kilobytes/sec. I am now running eclipse 2.0.4 with CMDA build.prop edit to increase 3g speeds. I ve only noticed a doubling of speed when in -87dbma area nut otherwise I cannot achieve anyhigher than 300 kilobytes/sec. I wonder could my radio be weak or bad? I thought 3g speeds would but up to ~500 or greater in really good coverage areas.
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I never considered radio quality when I looked at my speeds. Exactly how one would go about checking ones radio quality is far beyond me. Its definitely something worth exploring (in my opinion)
Right I would also need to test other 3g speeds on a different phone on the same networko in the same area to rule out network end probs. Plus I got my DROID x2 used so that might be it there. Also if the radio heats up from persistent use that might reduce efficiency and lower speeds.
Those are fairly decent speeds. For a mobile device, that's about what I would expect. Your ping, 19ms, means that it takes .019 second to reach from your device to the Verizon servers, then to the servers of the sites you are accessing, and then finally back to your phone. Anything less than 80ms is considered good, so you have an excellent ping.
And to clarify, your upload speed will never be as high as your download speed. It's a throttling mechanism used by all (and I do mean all) internet providers of any kind to prevent things like hogging their bandwidth with torrents and the like. It's essentially an industry standard.
I can get 20MBPS down and 15 MBPS uploads on this phone, but my MS is around 110.
Does anyone know of any tweaks or changes I can make to improve the MS/ping?
Thanks!
MS just stands for milliseconds. You can't really talk about improving the ms
Anyway, ping is just the measurement of the time it takes for a signal to get to the server and back. It's a physical distance. The only way to improve it, is to move closer to the server.
On a mobile device, the signal is required to travel via mobile masts, and satalites, hence the ping will be higher than your desktop's wired link. You can't really improve it.
Hope this helps!
Chris.
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MS just stands for milliseconds. You can't really talk about improving the ms
Anyway, ping is just the measurement of the time it takes for a signal to get to the server and back. It's a physical distance. The only way to improve it, is to move closer to the server.
On a mobile device, the signal is required to travel via mobile masts, and satalites, hence the ping will be higher than your desktop's wired link. You can't really improve it.
Hope this helps!
Chris.
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I know what ping and latency and MS are, but thanks for the help.
I don't think you are right. Can't different radio/modem drivers change things? What about tweaks? For example, on Windows running Leatrix Latency Fix lowers latency a TON! Is there anything like this for a android phone? (Galaxy S3 - Verizon)
Zacharybinx34 said:
I know what ping and latency and MS are, but thanks for the help.
I don't think you are right. Can't different radio/modem drivers change things? What about tweaks? For example, on Windows running Leatrix Latency Fix lowers latency a TON! Is there anything like this for a android phone? (Galaxy S3 - Verizon)
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No, because of the nature of HSDPA (Even H+) you can't really get low latency, maybe around 100 milliseconds at best. The real low latency wireless currently on market is probably LTE, which still would get you around 20 - 50ms versus. 5-10ms on a wired connection.
Connection speed itself has nothing to do with latency 5mbps connection on same technology would have exactly same latency as 10mbps one. Higher speed connection technologies just tend to be bit more advanced infrastructure and that way have less latency.
Bloved said:
MS just stands for milliseconds. You can't really talk about improving the ms
Anyway, ping is just the measurement of the time it takes for a signal to get to the server and back. It's a physical distance. The only way to improve it, is to move closer to the server.
On a mobile device, the signal is required to travel via mobile masts, and satalites, hence the ping will be higher than your desktop's wired link. You can't really improve it.
Hope this helps!
Chris.
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No, because of the nature of HSDPA (Even H+) you can't really get low latency, maybe around 100 milliseconds at best. The real low latency wireless currently on market is probably LTE, which still would get you around 20 - 50ms versus. 5-10ms on a wired connection.
Connection speed itself has nothing to do with latency 5mbps connection on same technology would have exactly same latency as 10mbps one. Higher speed connection technologies just tend to be bit more advanced infrastructure and that way have less latency.
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I have Verizon's LTE 4G service.
So shouldn't I be able to get around 20-50MS?
Any ideas?
Zacharybinx34 said:
I have Verizon's LTE 4G service.
So shouldn't I be able to get around 20-50MS?
Any ideas?
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You're in the wrong f'ing forum, this is the forum for the INTERNATIONAL VERSION.
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You're in the wrong f'ing forum, this is the forum for the INTERNATIONAL VERSION.
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My bad.
Sorry
Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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koreankabachy said:
Hey guys, I have fios with 50/25 mbps I can get around 40 with my laptop but my note is getting low teens. I switched from a wep security to wpa2 security whichever increased my wifi on my laptop but not on my phones (note 2 and ssg3).
Any ideas how to increase this? Am I missing a setting when connecting to wifi? At the moment, my 4g is faster than my wifi.
Upload speeds are fine... Actually higher than my download speeds. Seems like something is restricting my download speed.
Thanks in advance.
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I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
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I have FiOS as well and encounter the same "problem...". My chrombook gets above 40 Mbps and my Note 2 gets around 18-25 even standing next to my router...I just think its the way it is to be honest...I really don't know but just wanted to share that I'm seeing the same thing here...it really doesn't inhibit my experience at all 18-25 Mbps is perfectly fine for cell phone downloads etc.
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Same set up here...with similar results. I did some research on this as my ipad2 (which is now in a drawer thanks to the Note 2 BTW) wasn't getting anywhere near the speed I would have expected despite it supposedly being N compatible (my lenovo laptop gets 45 Mbps down all the time). Best answer I could find is that not all wireless radios are equal and can't handle the same speeds.
I have a 25 download connection on FIOS, and am sitting in my living room about ten feet from my router. I just ran a test on my laptop and phone via speedtest.net, and got 24/5 on the laptop and 25/6 on the Note 2. Initially I was going to respond to your post and say I am used to the same result you are seeing, but I just proved myself wrong.
When I'm in other parts of the house however, I do tend to see more of a performance degradation on the phone vs. the laptop...I don't have any exact data at the moment since I'm feeling too lazy to walk upstairs and repeat the test, but I do know the falloff happens more rapidly on the phone with distance from the router.
This is what I get on my Comcast 50/15 connection.
Desktop hardwired: 59Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Desktop wireless: 55Mbps down / 12Mbps up
Note 2: 40Mbps down / 16Mbps up
My desktop on wireless connects at 144Mbps, while my Note 2 only connects at 72Mbps. Both are within 4' of the router. Both using the same SpeedTest.net server.
I've noticed a huge difference in WiFi speeds between the different radios, the one that had given me the best spotted on WiFi is VRAMC3. The one that gives me the best speed on LTE is L4. The speed definitely differs from which radio you flash, that's why I wish Samsung would give our devs access to their radio tools and let us build our own. I guarantee if they did we wouldn't see this kind of crap.
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Hi,
I'm hoping that someone can help me with this issue, as far as my wifi goes, I'm on at&t fiber 1000 connection speed. I would think that I should have enough bandwidth available to be able to listen to a online radio station without any buffering occurring. When I'm using my red pocket 4 G LTE mobile connection that connects to at&t there's not any buffering at all, I do have a private dns server setup to block ad's, the one that I use is this address (dns.adguard.com). It might be something rather small that I'm overlooking but so far I can't seem to determine what it might be. I only have a 8 gb data allowance per month, so that's why I can't use my mobile data connection all of the time. Of course my phone is a LG V30 phone that's running android version 9.0, any suggestions will be appreciated !
David
Davy49 said:
Hi,
I'm hoping that someone can help me with this issue, as far as my wifi goes, I'm on at&t fiber 1000 connection speed. I would think that I should have enough bandwidth available to be able to listen to a online radio station without any buffering occurring.
When I'm using my red pocket 4 G LTE mobile connection that connects to at&t there's not any buffering at all, I do have a private dns server setup to block ad's, the one that I use is this address (dns.adguard.com). It might be something rather small that I'm overlooking but so far I can't seem to determine what it might be. I only have a 8 gb data allowance per month, so that's why I can't use my mobile data connection all of the time.
Of course my phone is a LG V30 phone that's running android version 9.0, any suggestions will be appreciated !
David
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Even though your AT&T is 1 Gbps speed, that's your line in/ethernet cable speed. Have you run speed tests to see what your Wi-Fi speed is? It will vary, depending on distance from your Wi-Fi router.
Yes, it should probably be fast enough, but I'm still curious what your average Wi-Fi speed is, when testing from your phone.
Your DNS ad server blocking is a nice detail to help trouble shoot. But you're probably blocking the same ads on Red Pocket. Therefore it's something that's not playing nice with AT&T network. Just for experimentation, while on Wi-Fi TEMPORARILY turn off your AdGuard or whatever app you are using. You can temporarily disable it. See if the buffering still happens then?
Hi,
Thanks so much for your reply, I'll try that and see if it makes any difference. The reason I'm using the private dns address is so I don't have to use software for blocking ad's. Today I've been checking out unlimited data plans for my phone. I'm currently using red pocket and I pay for 8 gb of data per month. Happy Thanksgiving ! Stay Safe
Davy49 said:
Hi,
Thanks so much for your reply, I'll try that and see if it makes any difference. The reason I'm using the private dns address is so I don't have to use software for blocking ad's. Today I've been checking out unlimited data plans for my phone. I'm currently using red pocket and I pay for 8 gb of data per month. Happy Thanksgiving ! Stay Safe
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Sure, I understand why you're using it. I use Ad Guard (paid, lifetime license) on two phones and Blokada (free) on 5 others, used by family/friends. Both allow choice of servers that will block ads.
We just need to see if something is conflicting on your home AT&T internet with Adguard servers. That may not be the case. But if so, there's workarounds we can try.
(For instance I know some websites have issues with Cloudflare DNS servers.)
Hi ChazzMatt,
Happy Thanksgiving, I hope you & yours have a wonderful day ! I've turned of the private adguard dns setting in my wifi settings on my phone, of course by doing so now I'm seeing more ad's once again. As I remember I did that a couple of day's ago, the first day when I was streaming some internet radio station's I didn't seem to have many buffering issues as I recall. Then yesterday while listening to some of the same stations with are provided by different sites I did have some buffering issues but not quite as bad as before. Also, I've went into the at&t gateway ( Pace 5268AC ) webpage & double checked the settings in there. Quite some time ago I did in fact change some of the settings that I was informed to do in another great forum where people who actually work for the companies can give users good advice ( http://www.dslreports.com ). For your reference, here are some of the settings I changed: (2.4 GHz Wifi Radio Confg. Heading), Channel Bandwidth from 20 MHz to 40 MHz, Transmit Power To Maximum 100, (5 GHz Wifi Radio Config. Heading), Current Wifi Channel To A Lower # Via Rescan 56, Transmit Power To Maximum 100. The main that I upgraded to the Fiber 1000 speed was to obtain additional bandwidth for the # of devices on the network. As I'm SURELY not an expert in broadband gateways, that's why I followed the suggestions that were provided to me. Also, where I stream the internet radio stations is located approx. 50 ft from the gateway. Maybe it has something to do with the wifi modem that's installed in my phone when it was manufactured. Thanks again for your help, Please Stay Safe !!
David
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Sure, I understand why you're using it. I use Ad Guard (paid, lifetime license) on two phones and Blokada (free) on 5 others, used by family/friends. Both allow choice of servers that will block ads.
We just need to see if something is conflicting on your home AT&T internet with Adguard servers. That may not be the case. But if so, there's workarounds we can try.
(For instance I know some websites have issues with Cloudflare DNS servers.)
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