I tried to search but its hard to come up with anything specific to my question.
I have had the prime for about a week and a half. Just upgraded to JB but noticed this in both JB and ICS.
When I look at the built in task manager widget I see random apps loaded. For instance Titanium backup will show up when I never launched it. Then later Google search partner (or something like that) and the music app, google play etc.. etc...
This all happens if its been on and I did the "One touch clean" showing zero apps or after a fresh reboot. I assume this is the bloatware everyone is not happy about? Is there a way to get rid of these random launches? Is it auto updates or what?
hx4700 Killer said:
I tried to search but its hard to come up with anything specific to my question.
I have had the prime for about a week and a half. Just upgraded to JB but noticed this in both JB and ICS.
When I look at the built in task manager widget I see random apps loaded. For instance Titanium backup will show up when I never launched it. Then later Google search partner (or something like that) and the music app, google play etc.. etc...
This all happens if its been on and I did the "One touch clean" showing zero apps or after a fresh reboot. I assume this is the bloatware everyone is not happy about? Is there a way to get rid of these random launches? Is it auto updates or what?
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Apps can launch themselves if they have the permissions depending on a trigger (like system startup, widgets updating etc.) This is so they can autoupdate etc. (Like fetching the news at a certain time and updating your email)
I use an app called autostarts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lbHNkb2VyZmVyLmFuZHJvaWQuYXV0b3N0YXJ0cyJd to disable whatever I don't want launching on its own.
I'm not sure if there is an equivalent free version.
flumpster said:
Apps can launch themselves if they have the permissions depending on a trigger (like system startup, widgets updating etc.) This is so they can autoupdate etc. (Like fetching the news at a certain time and updating your email)
I use an app called autostarts https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.elsdoerfer.android.autostarts&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5lbHNkb2VyZmVyLmFuZHJvaWQuYXV0b3N0YXJ0cyJd to disable whatever I don't want launching on its own.
I'm not sure if there is an equivalent free version.
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Excellant! Thanks.
Related
Dear Friends!
Glad to be here today (after 2 days! )
My dear Streaker is here!!
As the norm is, I have been busy tinkering with the stock material for couple o days, and I will continue to do so for some more time!
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Query: There are too many apps running (background) all the time!! I kill them, they resurrect!, How to do away with that?
Solution applied: Used Advanced task killer (but, apps resurrect!)
Another Solution tried: In Settings>Account & Sync settings> Unchecked Background data and Auto sync options. (Now, they dont connect to the net, but, they still restart!!)
Another Solution: Force close (from Manage apps) .. (Still same issue!)
Now, How can I tell the apps to come up only when I call them!?
(And some other apps I want to schedule them to come up every hour or so.. like my Gmail/FB)
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And, So far has been amazing experience!!
The screen is football field sized!! (Monster! yikes Scooby!)
Digging up all old posts to read some problems faced by new users..
Current hobby: Market and apps.
Future hobby: Roms and Flash!
Thank you all for your help!
care,
Sony.
Welcome to the cool kids club! I'm in a somewhat similar situation, I got my streak just before the massive snowstorm hit. Some of those apps need to be running... if you close some of them you may not get updates/notifications, or you can shut down your phone/data connection, or lose the use of multitouch.
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from what i understand, froyo is really good with resource management and there is no need to constantly kill processes or apps, its best to just leave them unless your streak is slow like a snail
Telal said:
Welcome to the cool kids club! I'm in a somewhat similar situation, I got my streak just before the massive snowstorm hit. Some of those apps need to be running... if you close some of them you may not get updates/notifications, or you can shut down your phone/data connection, or lose the use of multitouch.
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Lose multi touch!
How?
@rptw
So, It wouldnt really matter if there are apps running in the BG, and they start by themselves too!?
care,
Sony.
well in terms of the laws of nature (in most cases) stuff doesnt happen spontaneously so i think its safe to assume that your app that "started by themselves" were probably opened somehow either by you directly or indirectly by something else. if, however, you have a large number of apps that have started that you dont recall opening, maybe something is wrong with your software and you shouldnt try to cover the problem with a task killer.
So, what next!?
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well in terms of the laws of nature (in most cases) stuff doesnt happen spontaneously so i think its safe to assume that your app that "started by themselves" were probably opened somehow either by you directly or indirectly by something else. if, however, you have a large number of apps that have started that you dont recall opening, maybe something is wrong with your software and you shouldnt try to cover the problem with a task killer.
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So, Now, can you or other guys here please suggest how to go to the "root" of this problem!?
Ok.
Look, these apps are open right now!
Voice Search
Email
Messaging
Maps
Astro
Assistant free
I use the Adv Task Killer free.
(It says 7 apps killed and 180 MB free)
I open Adv task killer after 5 seconds.
and these apps are running!
Email
astro
Voice Search
Assistant Free
and I am sure, If I wait for some more time, the other apps will join in too!
(Now it says, 3 Apps killed, 171 MB free!!)
care,
Sony.
have you tried using the stock app manager and killing the apps there? i just checked my phone and i have the same apps under the running tab using the stock manager, i think email and messaging are always running since you have push features on them, in terms of the others im not sure. whats so bad about email and messaging running anyways? im sure you use them often enough to not want to have to open and close them right?
Hey, you posted the same question over at Pocketables forum.
As stated earlier, 2.2 is really good at managing back ground tasks.
I can tell you if you use a task killer and you have a problem with an APP, which currently you do not, the programmer for the app probably will not help you till you remove the APP killer program.
What you might try to do is run though your menus and see what you have selected to run, such as locations and sync services and disable what you can. Also if you do not want some thing running, you may want to just uninstall it. I do understand that you want some programs but you only want them to run when you ask, not sure how to tell you to handle that.
But, are you seeing any difference when you have the background tasks disabled. Try to find the APK for the programs and rename them just to see if you have any issues.
When I open some Apps, 10 other Apps open along with it. Is rooting the phone the only way to have access to the means to stop this?
Thanks,
-Adam
Don't pay so much attention. In general, those applications don't use your cpu and battery. Android has its own task manager system.
Yeah dis is even happening to me,the reason is so simple like one app needs the other apps so they are even opening up.
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Yeah dis is even happening to me,the reason is so simple like one app needs the other apps so they are even opening up.
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what the appl you using which is opening others appl can u name the apps
if you kill apps, they will probably get restarted automatically and left in the background. If the apps are working correctly, this is not a problem, as a well coded app does not use CPU/battery when in the background.
Actually, I just quit using a task manager to kill tasks (I just let Android kill them as necessary) and I have no problems (phone is not slower, power drain is not higher).
Maybe the thing is that after you stop a task in a task manager it does not update immediately and you don't see the task being restarted, and when you go into the task manager after running some app just then you see the apps restarted.
Also, some apps are very generic (maps) and used by other apps, and some apps need to be running all the time (latitude, mail client, widgets, etc.) and killing them would make them not work properly (widgets no longer updating, not getting new emails, etc.).
My advice is to leave the apps running if you are not very sure of what you are doing, because the OS will eventually kill unnecessary apps, and until then they should not use any CPU or battery.
Only thing is to stay away from badly written apps, the ones that use too much CPU even when in the background or when phone is sleeping. You should probably wait for a night after installing a new app to see if you have higher drain. If so, just uninstall and search for an alternative.
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what the appl you using which is opening others appl can u name the apps
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Like any Google app by searching is opening. Google search and by using voice search its opening voice search app and so on.
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I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
jb0nd38372 said:
I downloaded an app called App quarantine from the market and put the following apps in the don't run bin , but before doing that I downloaded Go Launcher / Go Contacts / Go Sms Pro and did a ehh, conversion from the stock samsung apps to Go Stuff. Has anyone else done this or anything similar?
Apk's no longer running on boot
(See screen shots, i'm lazy today.)
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There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
Wow thank you for all the info. As far as staying stock, I like making my devices unique to me, I did keep all spen related apps, but killed pretty much everything else. I doubt my phone will ever see an official release of anything, Xda all the way
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There are a number of apps that do the same type of thing, Titanium Backup will 'freeze' apps as well as a whole host of additional features.
Then of course, another option is to just rename the apps from *.apk to *.bpk and rebooting.
My personal preference is a third option called Autostarts which is similar to MSconfig in Windows but for Android. The reason being is, it gives you the ability to keep an app from ever running unless you actually tap the app to run it but still allows you to keep the app installed in the event you want to use it. Google Maps comes to mind, I want it installed, I dont want it running in the background.
I dont recommend removing any of the bloatware if you plan on staying on stock but, some of it for US Note users was able to be uninstalled without root via either Settings->Applications->Manage Applications->All Applications, then tap an app and see if uninstall was lit up, if so, sweet. Or, alternatively you could go thru the Market->(Menu Key)->My Apps but not all apps show up in this list. As a side note, I actually manually did a search for many of the apps on the phone and manually updated them because they were not showing up in the market 'My Apps' list.
One other side note, most of the Samsung apps are actually pretty decent, I usually dont touch them. Its the ATT software and the apps ATT took bribe money from third parties that bothers me (Yellow Pages for example).
Oh, and a little known feature of Go Launcher is the ability to hide apps.
Tap the App drawer icon to get to the list of apps on your phone, tap the menu button, tap hide apps. For those of us that havent bothered to root, this at least gives you the ability to not have to look at apps you dont want to see in the app drawer.
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Just to add I guess a 'fourth' option, I like to use the app 'root toolbox' available on the market with both free and pro versions. Under the advanced menu you can remove any system apps you like but the nice thing is anything you remove is automatically backed up to the root toolbox folder on the internal sd. The backup is done automatically so you dont have to worry about removing something and forgetting to backup first and also gives you the option to restore any system apps you removed simply and easily. Ill be honest the restore feature has saved my bacon many times lol and is also a great way to experiment which apps are safe and unsafe to remove.
I am just wondering if any of you have heard of it or have used it?
I was reading about laggy devices (mine has today i noticed - i shut it down every night, so i know its not like a PC where needing a restart is the issue).
Right now i just used my weather app since i dont use it often (but is useful wehn needed)...
But then i got to remembering about how i read before about ram, and that how if you close one thing, something else will just begin to take up the rams place.
so now im not sure if i should experiment with it or just delete it entirely?
Greenify force closes the apps that can't be killed
For eg. Facebook
Hence it doesn't run in background and saves ram
The other apps just close them but they can restart
But with Greenify they dont restart
So, what does it mean when it shows google play services like 4 times? it doesn't show many individual system apps (like Bluetooth for instance) that i can choose to only run when i want them to.
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So, what does it mean when it shows google play services like 4 times? it doesn't show many individual system apps (like Bluetooth for instance) that i can choose to only run when i want them to.
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To Greenify system apps, you need to have the Donate key and the Xposed module.
So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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So when I have multiple apps open, like for example. Youtube, Notes and Firefox then every time I switch app, the apps left in the background refreshes and lose whatever progress I'm doing in them. It's like they have trouble running in the background. didn't have this problem back in LGV20 so this is odd. I made sure to exclude these apps in the battery optimization and it does not seem to help
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Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
ChazzMatt said:
Are you on stock firmware or custom ROM? What version of either?
Do you have some task killer app installed?
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I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
noddledizzy said:
I have tested this on both stock oreo(US998) and AOSP PIE rom(H918) and the problem persists on both.
No, I do not have any task killers of some sort.
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No cleaners, optimizers, etc?
I'm just asking because I had installed paid CC cleaner app upon a good review on technical website. But after running for a few days I noticed it was killing tasks in the background, like Waze when I would look at an incoming email. Waze was running just fine until it temporarily became a background task. Then it got killed, even though I was still using it!
Also my phone started running hot and had become sluggish in spite of the fact this app was supposed to be "optimizing" my phone. So I uninstalled it.
I'm just curious if there's some app you've have for a while that you forgotten about, that is doing something like that... That would also explain why you see it on stock as well as custom ROMs, because it would be an app you installed yourself.
Least likely is you have the nuclear setting in Developer Options to limit how many apps can run at one time. Most people don't even know about that.
Otherwise I have no other answers.
Thanks for the insight. But the thing is, 90% of apps I have in both my US998 and H918 are open-source from F-droid. None of them really messes up with my battery. The only proprietary apps I have are first party apps from Google like Youtube, Google maps and Play services and some stock LG apps. Yeah, I never touch the app background limit in the developer options. Anyway, I appreciate you trying to help me and you already helped me a lot before.