My friend told me that if you 'S-OFF' your phone, don't think he said only on the HTC Amaze, but it will remove the 4G and will only give Edge connection. Is that true? And what are the Pros and Cons for having your phone S-OFF'd?
Your friend is misinformed. If someone was to S-Off Your phone without your knowledge you'd never know.
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Your friend is misinformed. If someone was to S-Off Your phone without your knowledge you'd never know.
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can you please provide me a link on as how to turn s off? and also do you lose the screen ring unlock feature when you do s-off?
Under development there's a sticky. And s=off has no visible effect. It is just for development purpose it alone won't cause anything to be different visually
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Here is a question. I bought a tmobile branded amaze. The guy who sold it me said it's unlocked and I am using it on other networks. Does this also mean its s-off? And has unlocked bootloader? How do I check? I just want to remove tmobile bloatware so need to root can anyone help me out here?
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danyal241 said:
Here is a question. I bought a tmobile branded amaze. The guy who sold it me said it's unlocked and I am using it on other networks. Does this also mean its s-off? And has unlocked bootloader? How do I check? I just want to remove tmobile bloatware so need to root can anyone help me out here?
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Take out your battery and then turn your phone back on holding down the power and volunme down buttons. This will load up the bootloader screen where it will either say "s-on or s-off" and will say "locked or unlocked". The locked/unlocked refers to the bootloader
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to s-off the phone just means to make "ALL" files on the phone rewritable so the phone can n be fully modified in any way shape or form.. and if you supercid your phone you will be able to flash stock roms from any carrier, as for how to s-off your phone i suggest using the toolkit by hasoon found here
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to s-off the phone just means to make "ALL" files on the phone rewritable so the phone can n be fully modified in any way shape or form.. and if you supercid your phone you will be able to flash stock roms from any carrier, as for how to s-off your phone i suggest using the toolkit by hasoon found here
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Thanks. For explaining but I googled it. Can you tell me of a htc stock rom for amaze. The one I have is tmobile and am looking for carriers free rom without bloatware as I dont want custom rom?
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danyal241 said:
Thanks. For explaining but I googled it. Can you tell me of a htc stock rom for amaze. The one I have is tmobile and am looking for carriers free rom without bloatware as I dont want custom rom?
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see if you can find yourself a detoxed RUU, either that or you can root your phone and use titanium backup to uninstall the bloatware you don't want
I did as you said. Now I have unlocked bootloader with twrp and rooted. I made a full backup through recovery. I have s-on. If I do messup can I simply use twrp to restore? Secondly if I want custom roms installed I need to s-off the phone or also supercid?
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danyal241 said:
I did as you said. Now I have unlocked bootloader with twrp and rooted. I made a full backup through recovery. I have s-on. If I do messup can I simply use twrp to restore? Secondly if I want custom roms installed I need to s-off the phone or also supercid?
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You don't need to be s-offed to flash a custom rom.But it is better if you can s-off.
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You don't need to be s-offed to flash a custom rom.But it is better if you can s-off.
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Why is it better? And do I need to be supercid?
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first off stop everything your doing, you NEED 4EXT recovery for all HTC phones, it was specially built for HTC phones since they only work on HTC phones.. and it has a Smart Flash feature that allows you to successfully flash rom's while S-ON, S-OFF lets you re-write system files with full access.. before htc released the Unlock Bootloader codes it was the only way to flash a rom properly.. and SuperCID lets you change the Carrier ID to Blank so this way you'll be able to restore any RUU from any carrier if your trying to flash back to stock... but it seems like you want to flash a rom so just Flash 4EXT and make sure smart flash is enabled and find a guide or watch a youtube video on how to do a full wipe and flash your ROM... or if you dont want to do a full wipe look for android revolution HD and download the superwipe script and flash that before you flash your ROM
Pros:
1. Able to flash kernels (aka boot.IMG) without using 4EXT Recovery ..but I use 4EXT because madmaxx is an evil genius!!
2. Able to supercid. That means you can change your Carrier Identification and will be able to flash different carriers RUU.
3. Able to SIM Unlock without the need to ask your carrier for the unlock code.
4. Change your Splash Screen. That is the first screen that pops up when you reboot. Then its the bootanimation that comes after.
Cons:
1. Just the attempt to S-Off is stressfull. If you're not patient or not confident or can't comprehend what it is you're reading or watching then do not attempt it. You can end up with an expensive paperweight if you don't know how to recover from something so basic.
2. Another Con. If you do something so stupid and mess with the system partitions then chances are it can end up as a brick also. Only heard of one instance that happened. And it was about a year ago.
Can't think of anything else. But I too would change the recovery. You might not be able to charge your phone if it goes dead because I'm not sure if TWRP supports charging while off. Good luck.
Can I just use hansoon tool yo change recovery? Or is there a speical way as I have twrp?
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I use the paid app. But you can use the Hasoons Tool. Mind you that its not the most up to date recovery and 4EXT has been updated atleast a dozen times since then.
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I use the paid app. But you can use the Hasoons Tool. Mind you that its not the most up to date recovery and 4EXT has been updated atleast a dozen times since then.
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So I just go and buy the paid app from play store and It will install the updates for me?
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Yes. It was worth it a few months back but. You might be better off going to his website and downloading the newest recovery. Up to you.
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t. Then its the bootanimation that comes after.
Cons:
1. Just the attempt to S-Off is stressfull. If you're not patient or not confident or can't comprehend what it is you're reading or watching then do not attempt it. You can end up with an expensive paperweight if you don't know how to recover from something so basic.
2. Another Con. If you do something so stupid and mess with the system partitions then chances are it can end up as a brick also. Only heard of one instance that happened. And it was about a year ago.
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yeah i remember i wanted to throw my phone at a wall because i was pissed the wire trick wasnt working lol
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Ok so now that we can unlock our bootloader through HTC what's next? Does this turn S off? I know I'm going to have to install a recovery still, but does this give me the capability to install superuser? Does anyone have any idea what options I will have once I unlock it through HTC? Any feedback would be appreciated. Thanks
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No it does not turn off Ship S-off...And u cant flash a custom recovery either when using HTc unlocker
yes. with S off you can install custom recovery like any PG image
It doesn't take S-off. I have read that TWRP doesnt work and CWM has and hasnt worked.
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It doesn't take S-off. I have read that TWRP doesnt work and CWM has and hasnt worked.
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I used the htc unlocker and test both recovery's they do not work...
I am hoping my replacement evo3d will not come with the newest update
So basically HTC dev unlocker is crap?
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It doesn't take S-off. I have read that TWRP doesnt work and CWM has and hasnt worked.
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So basically HTC dev unlocker is crap?
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Yes it is...
Glad I didn't wait...thx
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Glad I didn't wait...thx
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ditto. i have only had this phone a couple of weeks and a waited a while anticipating the "official" unlock, but i couldn't stand it. i went ahead a did it and i'm glad i did. besides, htc doesn't need to know i'm rooted anyway.
HTC never said it would be S-off only that the bootloader would be unlocked. You still need to find an exploit to gain s-off so a custom recovery can be installed. If you remember the original Evo had an unlocked bootloader but you still needed an exploit like unrevoked's rage against the cage to gain access to s-off and custom recovery. You still have alot of work ahead of you and now you've voided any warranty that isn't hardware related. Also, it says on the HTC's website that once you unlock any future OTA's may brick your phone. You are definitely better off using Revolutionary.io.
so could unrevoked come up with something now that the bootloaders are unlocked with HTC? to root the phone.
I just came from a g2 and must say I'm glad I did. Now time to start flashing roms. I was able to get phone unlocked and I got a custom recovery. No s_off.
I know s_off was needed for custom roms and to flash recoveryfor the g2.
Am I correct to think I need s_off to flash roms/kernels/mods?
Thanks in advance
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Spastic909 said:
I just came from a g2 and must say I'm glad I did. Now time to start flashing roms. I was able to get phone unlocked and I got a custom recovery. No s_off.
I know s_off was needed for custom roms and to flash recoveryfor the g2.
Am I correct to think I need s_off to flash roms/kernels/mods?
Thanks in advance
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S-off is not needed for anything really, other than flashing custom splash screens.
Install 4Ext recovery and it will flash kernels for you in recovery just as a recovery on a device with s-off would. IF you are unlocked and have a custom recovery you should be good to go, if the recovery is CWM I and nearly everyone here would advice you to switch to 4Ext just to make your life easier with wifi problems.
You can flash roms how your phone is right now through recovery with no problem though.
Sweet. Was used to needing soff for the g2. And I agree 4ext is awesome.
Just to make sure flashing is done the same as on my g2 through recovery right?
Thanks
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Oh wait....the bootloader is unlocked....is that the same as root? I wouldn't think so but phones are different.
Cheers
Yea no root access. Can you point me too an easy link or tutorial please?
Sorry
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Spastic909 said:
Oh wait....the bootloader is unlocked....is that the same as root? I wouldn't think so but phones are different.
Cheers
Yea no root access. Can you point me too an easy link or tutorial please?
Sorry
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Not the same. After you unlock the bootloader, you can root the phone (SuperUser App).
Follow these instructions starting from post 3 to get a custom recovery and root access.
That was so much easier than I expected. It was a lot harder with the G2. Thanks again
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my phone is rooted and i just put the stock rom on it (Shooter_S_Sprint_WWE_2.17.651.5_odex.zip) after having a different rom my question is when ICS update comes in 2 weeks (for sprint users in the usa) will the update work and be applied? or will i just get an error?
I believe you will also have to relock your bootloader and install the stock ruu which puts the stock recovery on.
I recommend that you wait until a dev comes out with a custom based off the ota. It will be more awesome.
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That Sucks is there any way I could go back to stock stock so I can update threw HTC when released
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NEVER EVER take an update when you are rooted. Every single guide to rooting tells you this.
There is no need to relock to take the update when it comes out. Just wait about an hour, and someone on here will have a flashable version of the stock rooted rom. Flash it like any other rom, simple as that, no need to worry about bricking.
Well I don't really care about it not being rooted any more
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Well I don't really care about it not being rooted any more
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Just find the stock RUU for your phone.
Depending on whether your CDMA or GSM and what carrier.
It shouldn't be hard. Just use the search.
Then follow the instructions to flash it, make sure you have the stock HTC recovery and relock the bootloader.
Your phone will be stock!
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Just find the stock RUU for your phone.
Depending on whether your CDMA or GSM and what carrier.
It shouldn't be hard. Just use the search.
Then follow the instructions to flash it, make sure you have the stock HTC recovery and relock the bootloader.
Your phone will be stock!
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It's already got a copy of the stock ROM so i couldn't make a recovery ill look into it thanks!
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7pd3 said:
It's already got a copy of the stock ROM so i couldn't make a recovery ill look into it thanks!
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Ah, no problem, you should be fine.
When flashing the stock RUU, if done properly, you should automatically get the stock recovery.
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ok,i don't you if other users ask this question or not but i did not find any thread which tell me this question.but if some one asked it already then i'm sorry for asking it again.
i need to know that which thing i should do first
S-OFF
OR
ROOT
i'm very confused b/w s-off and rooting so i will be glad to know the answer<THANKYOU
You have to unlock your bootloader for s off so in the same process you can root it it won't harm you lol
EDIT : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167596
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You have to unlock your bootloader for s off so in the same process you can root it it won't harm you lol
EDIT : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167596
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i have already unlock boot-loader.so now i should perform s-off and then root??
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i have already unlock boot-loader.so now i should perform s-off and then root??
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Yes.. You mite need root permission to start s off process I can't remember that much I did it a lil long ago just flash 4ext and and install supersu and go ahead with s off it won't hurt you all it'll take is extra 5min
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You don't need s-off to install roms from 4ext recovery tool. You only need s-off for updating radios and such. If you do want to try the wire trick make sure you have contact with metal by scraping away any white dot sticker that on some phones is under the holes.
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You don't need s-off to install roms from 4ext recovery tool. You only need s-off for updating radios and such. If you do want to try the wire trick make sure you have contact with metal by scraping away any white dot sticker that on some phones is under the holes.
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so S-OFF is not a big deal?leaving it and just performing root is all that is needed?
toorentz said:
so S-OFF is not a big deal?leaving it and just performing root is all that is needed?
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Depends If you have other brand of amaze such as tmobile wind tellus or something EXCEPT Asian Version, if you have Asian Version which is CID_044 you need s off cuz we don't have ics.
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Yup..
If you have Asian version of amaze and if you want to update your android version to Ics than you must perform s-off ,
Than flash RUU which is provided by aj and than hboot .
And after that you can flash supersu.zip to gain root access..
And if you don't want update ics and want only simple root with GB stock Rom
1) unlock bootloader
2) perform s-off (to be safe to perform further steps )
3) flash superSU.zip
Hit thanks if I helped you !!!
Hi guys, this might be a stupid question but, can I root my Amaze and keep the stock rom?
Thanks in advance from an old noob!
dogallmighty said:
Hi guys, this might be a stupid question but, can I root my Amaze and keep the stock rom?
Thanks in advance from an old noob!
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Yes of course.
But we do have improved stock roms like ARHD so you might want to try them out.
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Ohh you can ..
Just use hasoon's 2000 AIO amaze toolkit to perform rooting...
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Thanks for the help guys. Worked great!
So I've got it all rooted and it works great. I'm just wondering about installing a new rom on it. From what I remember I need s-off. Is there any other way to do that aside from the wire trick?
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No... No... No...
Just do it...
It is risk free...
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dogallmighty said:
So I've got it all rooted and it works great. I'm just wondering about installing a new rom on it. From what I remember I need s-off. Is there any other way to do that aside from the wire trick?
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If your phone is T-Mobile branded and so is the rom (most are T-Mobile based anyway, like speed rom and android Revolution), just enable smart flash in 4ext settings and it should flash without s off. They both have to be T-Mobile branded though.
But s off is worth it you can flash any amaze rom after s off and super cid. Insulated wire works best but tape covered paperclips work too.
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If your phone is T-Mobile branded and so is the rom (most are T-Mobile based anyway, like speed rom and android Revolution), just enable smart flash in 4ext settings and it should flash without s off. They both have to be T-Mobile branded though.
But s off is worth it you can flash any amaze rom after s off and super cid. Insulated wire works best but tape covered paperclips work too.
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Yup....
But I thnk he has Asian amaze...
Than you must perform s-off
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Yup....
But I thnk he has Asian amaze...
Than you must perform s-off
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If it's unbranded, then he would have to S-OFF. Which is the international or "asian" amaze. I think I have a TELUS amaze but it's unbranded (it came unlocked). So basically my amaze is the wedlock orphan amaze, until I check the original CID. "Aint nobody got time fo dat!"
To the OP, if you're Amaze says T-mobile on it just turn on smartflash and you should be good! You won't be able to flash every thing like CM, or Dark Glass Mod, AOSP based roms, and other non T-mobile roms for now until you S-OFF, and supercid.
Once you do that your amaze is freeeeeee! :angel:
So one more noob question, which recovery should I have used? 4ext or twrp? From what I read originally twrp was the way to go, but upon further reading it sounds like I should have used 4ext instead. Is there really that much difference between the two?
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So one more noob question, which recovery should I have used? 4ext or twrp? From what I read originally twrp was the way to go, but upon further reading it sounds like I should have used 4ext instead. Is there really that much difference between the two?
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Definitely choose 4ext. It has smartflash so you can flash ROMS without being S-OFF. This only applied to T-mobile amazes on T-mobile ROMS. But people who have the amaze are mostly non-T-mobile so it hasn't been of too much use, but it can be for you if you have a T-mobile branded Amaze. Do you have a T-mobile branded amaze? (Amaze with T-mobile stamped on the front). If you do, you can avoid the S-OFF process (it's highly recommended anyway) and flash T-mobile based Roms here. :good:
yup .
but i suggest you to perform s-off bcoz after performing s-off every thing going to be good,
, you
and if you haven't t-mobile or other , i mean if you have to asian than there is no way you must have to perform s-off.
and ya use 4ext recovey.
:good: Hit thanks if I helped you !!! :good: :good: :good:
My phone was a telus phone that I had to get unlocked. So I'm guessing that getting s-off is the only way to go. Should I use the All-in-one program to flash 4ext, or could I use Goo manager? Is there any issue flashing over twrp?
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Than flash
4ext and enable smart flash..
And flash it
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Ok, so can I just use the all-in-one program to flash over twrp?
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Ok, so can I just use the all-in-one program to flash over twrp?
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I think so. It should work.
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Ok, so I've got 4ext installed and it works great. Thanks for the help on that. Now on to trying to get s-off. I've read the instructions and the trouble shooting sections on how to do it. My only question is what is meant by " Verify - You are on Stock RUU (not FreshROM, Stock Rooted, HarmonyROM - none of these will work!)" Am I Stock RUU or Stock Rooted? Because I try to run the ubuntu program and get as far as "booting device into junbuntu? mode" and it just sits there and does nothing.
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Ok, so I've got 4ext installed and it works great. Thanks for the help on that. Now on to trying to get s-off. I've read the instructions and the trouble shooting sections on how to do it. My only question is what is meant by " Verify - You are on Stock RUU (not FreshROM, Stock Rooted, HarmonyROM - none of these will work!)" Am I Stock RUU or Stock Rooted? Because I try to run the ubuntu program and get as far as "booting device into junbuntu? mode" and it just sits there and does nothing.
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Did you flash any roms??
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Ok, so I've got 4ext installed and it works great. Thanks for the help on that. Now on to trying to get s-off. I've read the instructions and the trouble shooting sections on how to do it. My only question is what is meant by " Verify - You are on Stock RUU (not FreshROM, Stock Rooted, HarmonyROM - none of these will work!)" Am I Stock RUU or Stock Rooted? Because I try to run the ubuntu program and get as far as "booting device into junbuntu? mode" and it just sits there and does nothing.
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If you didn't flash anything, you are still on stock so I wouldn't worry about that.
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It says perform this while you are on stock ...means that...
You are safe to perform while your are on stock Rom ( which is given by your company )
I mean gb for you if you haven't flash any other Rom .....
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